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- ...and apparently their son is Peter Parker?
So very, very confused...
- Ahahah, welcome to slash, OP. Believe me, there's a lot of weirder stuff going on among Avengers fangirls; Captain America / Iron Man is pretty much the "vanilla" jumping off point.
My understanding of (part) of the appeal is the dynamic of their characters, especially in the movies and the Avengers - cocky, billionaire playboy inventor (with emotional intimacy issues) continually butts heads and vies for leadership with all-American hunky golden boy (who's hopelessly outdated and naive).
That's pretty tame compared to Loki / Thor slash (they're brothers, after all), the other most popular Avengers slash fandom. Plus stuff like Hawkeye / Hulk (size difference, anyone?), threesomes involving Black Widow, etc. It's a wild world out there...
- Goodness, what a wealth of bad fanart!
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- Slash fiction is so wonderfully odd. Making it even odder is that it's mostly written by straight women.
After seeing those pics at the link, I was a bit confused. I always pegged Iron Man more a top.
- Thor/Loki slash art
http://loki-hiddleston.deviantart.com/gallery/%3Fset%3D30397702%26offset%3D72%23/d5ivydi
- More Thor/Loki slash... with kitten...
http://loki-hiddleston.deviantart.com/gallery/%3Fset%3D30397702%26offset%3D96%23/d5f7w35
- I love naked men, drawn by people who have never seen a naked man.
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- Why Iron Man? He is disgusting. It should be Captain America and Thor.
- They look soooooo hansum togeter!!!!!! sWooon!!
- I would have thought they would select any of the male characters and, um, Renner.
- What's really jarring to me is not only how incredibly well-drawn some of the artwork is, but how romantic it is. I thought the one below was very sweet. People simply enjoy seeing these characters engaged in normal, emotional intimacy. And then the ludicrousness of the pairing hits you and you're like, WTF?
The craziest ones are the animated GIF "comic strips" where people raid scenes from Chris Evans' and RDJ's old movies and create little domestic scenes for them (next link)
http://steveandtony.tumblr.com/post/29287928745/alycen-riddle-tony-steve-do-not-disturb
- Something like this would be sweet if it wasn't so fucking insane.
http://steveandtony.tumblr.com/post/29022865544/capcheeks-tony-decides-to-watch-some-old-film
- Why do women obsess so much about seeing male pop culture figures be intimate and cute and emotional? I could see wanting them to fuck, but wanting them to be tender is so weird to me.
Is there Dr. Hannibal Lecter/Dr. Frederick Chilton slash? I think that's the next step.
- Captain America -slash-Iron Man Slash
- What's peculiar is how they've negotiated the dominant/submissive roles. Iron Man is depicted as very stereotypically male, very work oriented, very aggressive and dominating personality-wise, but is almost always shown as the bottom. Captain America is depicted as very nurturing, chivalrous and "boy next door", very domestic oriented, and yet he is depicted as the physically and sexually dominant one.
I'm sorry, this is just so fucking insane.
http://steveandtony.tumblr.com/post/23288206203/sdkay-umbrella-vanilla-sky
- To be fair, a lot of the slash "tension" between the characters comes directly from the comics and is canon - e.g. Iron Man continually butts heads with and sasses Captain America.
Like, in the below comic (new Avengers, I think), Iron Man wakes up a shirtless Captain America in bed and calls him "old man", with the classic intro line "It started with two men." There's at least some basis in the source material for the push and pull between the characters, which can step over into homoerotic sexual tension.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meks06GHKj1rsus6so1_500.jpg
- And what, R15, you've never met a guy who on the outside was a real CEO in the boardroom type, master of the universe, acts like a predator, and then in bed his heels go up and he's a total bottom? That dynamic isn't THAT "insane".
And you know what, I think sometimes that's the appeal of slash or gay romantic fiction to female readers - that you can have these relationships and explore dynamics that defy traditional gender roles or assignments re: sex and personality, without running into preconceived notions about what relationships "should" look like with a man and a woman.
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- Of course that dynamic isn't insane in real life, R17. The insane part is that they're assigning these roles to heterosexual comic book characters.
- So... what if the characters weren't heterosexual, R18? What possibilities would that open up?
Look, one of these guys is a super-soldier government experiment from the 1940's who was frozen in time, and the other is a billionaire inventor playboy who flies around in a metal suit. Both fight the forces of evil, aliens, and other super-powered beings.
I'm not a slash fangirl, but on the scale of "insanity", imagining these characters as possibly not straight and coming up with stories and art about it ranks pretty low next to the crap that actually comes up in the comics, like "oh we ended up in an alternate universe with a rewritten timeline caused by a super-powered being's reality-altering powers." Which is why I think it's silly sometimes to discuss how "weird" or "off the wall" slash is, because the actual source material is always ten times weirder.
- Your argument is cogent and has been accepted by the committee.
I still don't understand how Spider-Man ended up being their son though.
- In fact, in X-Men, didn't they publish some alternate universe comic book series where Colossus was gay and attracted to Northstar or something? If it were on the Internet it'd be called some silly slash fangirl's fantasy, but because male comic book writers were paid to do it it's called groundbreaking?
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- The Colossus is gay storyline was in the Ultimate universe, which is a line still going today. It was almost interesting but once again not that well written.
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- "Why do women obsess so much about seeing male pop culture figures be intimate and cute and emotional?"
Could it have anything to do with the difficulty in getting straight men to be intimate and cute and emotional? Seriously, much slash fiction writing is about exploring the emotions characters are too "manly" to express in the media.
The rest of it's about fucking. Hot fucking, hopefully.
- I want Iron Man to get cosy with the Hulk
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- So I saw "The Avengers" last night for the first time and now I'm even more confused because there really wasn't much development given to the Rogers/Stark chemistry. Frankly Rogers was more bromantic with Bucky in the "Captain America" movie.
Awful movies BTW.
- There is actually no real Hulk slash artwork, which doesn't surprise me since the character and its implications of unrestrained male violence has never appealed to women.
This is the first image you get when you GIS "Hulk slash", which I thought was cute.
http://whisperelmwood.deviantart.com/art/HULK-SLASH-304053748
- I think it's cute/hot, but I wish Cap was the bottom more often.
- This is sort of an interesting read about why people ship them together, and it makes a pretty compelling and nearly canonical case.
Still don't know where Spiderman being their baby came from though.
http://ship-manifesto.livejournal.com/204146.html
- I think the shipping comes from RDJ constant eyefucking of Chris Evans in every joint seen the had in the Avengers. I had bad for him same with Jude in Sherlock Holmes movies. Hope it got a piece of Jude.
- R29, did you find out how babby is formed yet?
- R29 here sorry for all the typos ...on my tablet before my morning coffee so I didn't catch my errors. Meant RDJ had the lusties for hot as hell CE and that translated on film. He had that same lust for JL in the Sherlock movies. I think spidery boy was chosen as the son because he's a teenage superhero.
- If Spidey is the son of billionaire Tony Stark, why the hell did he grow up poor?
- Apparently Spiderman is boyfriends with Deadpool while being Iron Man and Captain America's son.
- Hawt!
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- I prefer the animation where Ned Flanders is feeding his ten inches to Homer Simpson.
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