Morrissey Attacks Kate Middleton, Prince William for Nurse Death
Morrissey has slammed the British royal family following the death of nurse Jacintha Saldanha. The singer labelled Prince William and Kate "arrogant" in the aftermath of the King Edward Hospital nurse's suspected suicide.
Nurse Jacintha Saldanha was found dead last week after transferring a call in which Australian DJs Mel Greig and Michael Christian pretended to be Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles to gain medical details about the hospitalized Duchess of Cambridge.
The former Smiths frontman called for the royal couple to show remorse for the incident, and that the blame should not be solely placed on the DJs.
He told New Zealand's 3News: "Even with the recent story about the nurse killing herself in King Edward Hospital, there's no blame placed on Kate Middleton, who was in the hospital as far as I could see for absolutely no reason. She feels no shame about the death of this woman, she's saying nothing about the death of this poor woman. The arrogance of the British royals is staggering, absolutely staggering. And why it's allowed to be I really don't know."
He added that the duchess's reported morning sickness was not worth a hospital visit, saying: "Does she have a health condition...? What is the health condition? I mean morning sickness already? So much hoo haw and then suddenly as bright as a button as soon as this poor woman dies she's out of hospital? It doesn't ring true. And I'm sure the Palace and Clarence House put maximum pressure on this poor receptionist and nurse, and of course that's kept away from the press. I'm sure the British press hounded this poor woman to her death, that's kept away. And by this time next week she'll be forgotten. And that's how the British royals work."
Australian radio station 2Day FM have announced that they will donate ad revenue to the family of Jacintha Saldanha.
Morrissey has criticized the British royal family for many years, recently describing Prince Harry as "an idiot". He caused controversy earlier this year by comparing the London 2012 Olympics to Nazi Germany.
How are William & Kate responsible for the actions of a couple of selfish Australian D.J.'s on the other side of the world who decided to call up and do this prank?
Morrissey only wishes he could have morning sickness so he could whinge and get attention. Perhaps he could be hospitalized for jealousy.
That guy would blame the Royals and post a ten page rant for a bag of rice falling to the ground in China.
What personal fuckery did the Queen and her family do to him? Sent him dozens of salami pizzas to him he had to pay for?
Shut up and eat a steak pie!
You are blaming a sick woman for something that happened in the lobby?
Morrissey would stick a turkey up his ass and dance through Oxford Street if it got 5 people to pay attention to him. Twat.
For someone so into the Union Jack and other symbols of the Empire, the old gal really dislikes its symbolic heads, doesn't she?
He's absolutely right.
Look, this is not the first time the Royals were pranked or hounded by crazy paps who photographed them miles away. You'd think that after the international incident of Kate being photographed topless that the Royals would step up their security and be diligent but they do not care.
Security, MI6, whoever or whatever should have had security specialists filtering any calls going to Kate's room while she was at the hospital. This should be the norm not the exception but no the Royals have an ordinary nurse manning the phone.
The Royals are a bunch of morons.
I agree with Morrissey - I expressed disgust in another thread that there is no investigation on the hospital who may have guilt tripped the employee and exaggerated the outcome of her mistake, indirectly causing the suicide.
So Morrissey is now a medical expert? He alone is qualified to decide who should and should not be in the hospital?
There are tons of legit reasons to attack the Royal Family. This is not one of them.
R8 doesn't have a clear understanding of what happened regarding the prank call.
Morrisey has no fucking business commenting on a person's illness and hospitalization. He has no fucking business claiming he knows what's in the Duchess's mind.
In short, he's a fucking nut that needs to just shut the fuck up about shit that has nothing to do with him.
[quote] Security, MI6, whoever or whatever should have had security specialists filtering any calls going to Kate's room while she was at the hospital. This should be the norm not the exception but no the Royals have an ordinary nurse manning the phone.
So MORE money should be spent on the Royal Family?
Hey R9 please share with us your knowledge on the inner workings and administration of the King Edward VII hospital. You seem to know it all, dontcha?
R13, in order to prevent situations like this? YES!
When a prank like this happens (and this is not the first prank on the Royals) the "ordinary" people working around the Royals shouldn't be the ones to take the blame. There should be specialized staff manning the posts temporarily to prevent situations like this from occurring. It was just a matter of time for someone's life to be at stake for the Royals' complete nonchalance and indifference.
I believe the dead nurse's spirit will posses the royal child
Poor sad old Moz. This is just the latest in a long list of desperate grabs for attention and headlines.
He has nothing further, artistically or musically to contribute so he bitches about royals.
Morrissey gins up controversy effortlessly. Anyone with an actual opinion is treated as some kind of pariah in this world. It's quite something.
His point, I think, is that what induced that poor woman to commit suicide was the pressure put on her after she put the call through. And part of that pressure came from the Royals. The DJs were just blundering dummies.
So, to him, the Royals might have some blood on their hands. Not the DJs.
Perfectly defensible argument, to my mind.
Why is Morrissey so angry all the time?
r19 Bull Shit! The only criminals here, in actuality and morally, are those DJ's! They came up with this idiotic prank, pretending to be people they are not, in order to get personal information about people hospitalized. They are the ones who have the blood of that nurse on their hands.
I'm no royalist but the fact that you don't think a royal has any right to privacy even when they have a medical condition, makes you an idiot.
William and Kate share responsibility as well. They are not as culpable as the DJs who are totally at fault, but I'd say about 1/3 responsible for her death.
The second the mistake happened Kate and William should've been on the phone telling that poor nurse it wasn't her fault and they didn't care
How could anyone have forseen that this nurse would kill herself? It seems dramatically out of proportion. It's an extremely unlikely reaction to a prank call.
Oh please, he's so full of shit.
If the woman was still alive, he'd be screaming about her being a "Paki."
He's such a douchebag.
Morrissey is a sick man. The culmination usually occurs around his age especially when issues aren't addressed in the third and fourth decades. The reason why he is incapable of being objective here is because he identifies with the mentally ill nurse. Fragile, suicidal personalities only give themselves away by taking the side of the sick individual. Morrissey doesn't know he's sick.
Poor, simple-minded R21.
Don't you think that a WORLD of shit fell on the head of that poor nurse after she put the call through? You don't think that Buckingham palace was a part of that enormous backlash that poor woman faced?
The DJs thought they'd be laughed at and hung up on. A competent security apparatus (which theoretically surrounds the future king and his wife) would be able to handle a PRANK CALL. Why isn't the prince's security being publicly shamed? Why aren't the Palace's PR people being questioned about what kind of pressure they put on that nurse?
Because the Royals are not accountable to the British public. It's insane.
kate Middleton was very sick, so she sought out medical care. pregnancy is very rough for some women.
Morrissey is a woman-hating douchebag who is way past his sell-by date. In fact, in terms of celebrity assholes, he's one of the biggest around.
no one is to blame for the woman's suicide, except her. suicide is a choice. it's the big, "fuck you".
[quote]no one is to blame for the woman's suicide, except her. suicide is a choice. it's the big, "fuck you"
And who's the woman-hating douchebag here?
Time for someone else to throw a sausage at him...
i don't hate anyone. suicide is a choice. it's the person's choice. i understand the despair of the suicidal person, but it's ultimately their decision, isn't it?
Calling hyperemesis gravidarum "just morning sickness" is like calling double pneumonia "just a cold." Thousands and thousands of women have died over the years from h.e., including the novelist Charlotte Bronte. It is absolutely essential if you have it to get medical treatment in a hospital.
Morrissey is an ass. He didn't have the facts and he just spouted off in his ignorance.
no-one is responsible for the nurse's suicide except for the nurse herself. bottom line, end of story, no further discussion.
[quote] i don't hate anyone. suicide is a choice. it's the person's choice. i understand the despair of the suicidal person, but it's ultimately their decision, isn't it?
So when bullies cause gay kids to kill themselves they should face no repercussions?
[quote] Thousands and thousands of women have died over the years from h.e., including the novelist Charlotte Bronte.
Dear, Charlotte Bronte died in the 1800's. If consumption didn't get her, something would have.
Why did the woman kill herself? She wasn't even the nurse who gave out info, she just transferred the call. Plus the hospital has said they received no complaints from the Royals and that she wasn't being reprimanded in anyway.
bullies dont't "cause" gay kids to kill themselves.
What R26 said. The Queen, Charles, and William himself have means enough for 24-hour security who filter all activity and calls.
That system if it was there at all failed, as did that of the wealthy expensive and famous private hospital.
The crass callers of course deserve the majority of the blame; but they were mere chancers up against professionals who should have known and behaved better.
I know that one should be able to separate the artist from the art, but I can't always do it. I used to love Morrissey, but I can't listen to him any more without thinking what an ass he's become. I was tempted to see him next month when he plays my town, but this sealed it; I won't.
I would love to hear a backlash from women's health groups. The condition she had/has is not "just morning sickness" as R31 said which makes this comment of his all the richer:
[quote]The arrogance of the British royals is staggering, absolutely staggering.
[quote]I agree with Morrissey - I expressed disgust in another thread that there is no investigation on the hospital who may have guilt tripped the employee and exaggerated the outcome of her mistake, indirectly causing the suicide.
Faux outrage. Scotland Yard is conducting an inquiry into the nurse's suicide.
[quote]Dear, Charlotte Bronte died in the 1800's. If consumption didn't get her, something would have.
We're not even talking about consumption. Try to catch up.
Also, the main reason people don't die of things they died of in the 1800s is exactly because they now get better medical care by going to modern hospitals.
[quote]Look, this is not the first time the Royals were pranked
HUH???? The Royals were not pranked. The hospital staff was. And my grandmother could tell that was not the queen on the phone so how that nurse was fooled is absolutely baffling. I'm sure her family made her life hell for embarrassing them which is why she did the honorable thing (in their culture) and offed herself. The family is to blame in this IMO.
[quote] It was just a matter of time for someone's life to be at stake for the Royals
Get a grip.
And what r23 said.
bullying is different than a prank call that wasn't even directed at the nurse herself. duh.
the prank wasn't a personal attack on the nurse. it was embarrassing for her, but obviously, this woman was deeply depressed beforehand.
[quote]And I'm sure the Palace and Clarence House put maximum pressure on this poor receptionist and nurse, and of course that's kept away from the press. I'm sure the British press hounded this poor woman to her death, that's kept away. And by this time next week she'll be forgotten. And that's how the British royals work.
I've no doubt he's right on this part.
I have so much more respect for him than ever--he's got brass balls!
I don't agree with what he said about Kate's pregnancy struggle however he had the courage to mention anorexia.
I mean, it COULD be a complication of her anorexia, it's what we're all thinking, but all afraid to say it.
Kate seems like a wonderful person but do we really know anything about her--she has never made a public statement. So really, all of the adulation is unwarranted and cultish.
I don't live in Britain so I respect his opinion of the royals as I have nothing ot compare it too.
I also think that the DJ's are being unfairly maligned and should not be punished for a silly prank call that should have never gone through. I'm sure that the undue pressure on that poor nurse did send her over the edge.
It just feels like this whole pregnancy is cursed in some way.
Don't fully agree with him but I think r19 post explains Morrisseys position better then he did.
[quote]His point, I think, is that what induced that poor woman to commit suicide was the pressure put on her after she put the call through. And part of that pressure came from the Royals.
So what you're saying, basically, is that Kate Middleton--or maybe you think the queen herself!--called up this nurse, and "put pressure" on her? How? "You've made a mockery of your job! Why not kill yourself? You've shamed the crown and your country... why don't you just kill yourself... it would be so easy... so easy... I won't rush you..."
Sort of like Mrs. Danvers in REBECCA.
He's just trying to draw fire from the Dj's through his absurd and obviously crazed rant (spoken with his characteristic brilliance, wit, and decency), because he wants the male of the DJ duo to show appreciation by fucking Morri's fat, sloppy ass.
Morri doesn't open her trap without hopes of dollars in his pocket or a cock in the vicinity. She's FOCUSED.
In other news, Morrissey attacks Dame Flora Robson for the Japanese Pearl Harbor attack, Helen Keller for the failure of New Coke, and the late Angela Harper, formerly of the 87th floor of the World Trade Center I, for the Al Qaeda airline hijacking and crashes.
He sees things NO ONE ELSE CAN and HE WILL NOT BE SILENT.
It was just a silly prank that should not have led to anyone committing suicide. If that's the case Candid Camera would have caused a whole bunch of suicides. How about that Betty White pranking show. I haven't heard of anyone dropping dead from that one. How about the show punked.
Because it rarely if ever happens that someone commits suicide over a silly stunt like this, perhaps we shouldn't act like those Australian DJS were the devil themselves.
I think it's very likely that the hospital was so very embarrassed by the entire incident that there were probably people who laid into this receptionist for not doing her job. Especially in a country that bows and scrapes to royalty, I have no difficulty picturing some mid level supervisor yelling at this woman.
They and the pressure that the Palace undoubtedly placed on the hospital probably contributed, but ultimately the woman made a choice on her own to commit suicide so she's the one responsible.
[quote] The Queen, Charles, and William himself have means enough for 24-hour security who filter all activity and calls.
The DJs called the hospital. Was royal security supposed to man the swithboard? The phone call was transferred to a unit nurse (not the suicide nurse), who actually gave out medical information when she KNEW she shouldn't have. Any time a royal is in the hospital staff are told not to talk to anyone about them or their medical care. The nurse who killed herself only answered the phone and transferred the call. If there was any pressure put on the hospital/employees by the royal family, don't you think the idiot nurse who actually gave out the information would have been in trouble instead of the woman who just transferred the call? Medical staff are warned not to discuss or give out any information on any patient. When a VIP is in the hospital, every one is warned explicitly
The DJs called at 5 AM with a background of dogs barking playing and two people claiming to be the Queen and Prince Charles talking to the nurse. That nurse that replied to the DJs call is brain dead moron. Did she/he really think the Queen and Charles were together at 5 AM on different phone extensions calling the hospital to ask about Kate while the corgis were yapping in the background?
The nurse who killed herself had to have had a lot of other problems. She worked in London and lived by herself and her family lived in another city, far away. That's strange. She was a nurse and could have gotten a job where her family live. She had two children and killed herself over this? She could have gotten another job.
r48, it's not implausible. Stranger things have happened. Like Diana not getting to the hospital for hours after the fatal car crash.
Not a fan of Morrissey, but he's right, they should've said something, maybe she wouldn't have killed herself.
MO is a fat irrelevant racist queen. I think he's become so fat the fat has gone straight to his brain.He's Irish when he wants to be then English when it suits him. The fucking hypocrite doesn't even like the UK he lived in LA now Italy. Where he doesn't have to see so many different races according to his closet Freeper mind.
[quote]How could anyone have forseen that this nurse would kill herself? It seems dramatically out of proportion. It's an extremely unlikely reaction to a prank call.[/quote]
The problem is that people are expected to walk on eggshells around celebrities, and any minor mistake is treated as cataclysmic. The hospital should punish any mistakes, but not to the point where it ruins careers.
I never liked Kate and William anyway. William said he knew she was "the one" when he saw her prancing on stage in a lingerie show. How deep!
[quote] "Even with the recent story about the nurse killing herself in King Edward Hospital, there's no blame placed on Kate Middleton, who was in the hospital as far as I could see for absolutely no reason."
It's been a long time since a quote in a newspaper article actually made me laugh out loud.
How does this character manage to breathe unassisted?
I know when a grand poobah in the U.S. requires emergency hospitalization in a regular hospital, the Secret Service takes over the switchboards and otherwise pretty much locks down the place. They don't leave communication decisions up to a nurse who happens to wander by and fills in for the switchboard operator while she takes a pee.