She used to leave with Keith Carradine but he dumped her for being too needy.
I thought she was gay.
oops make that "live" with Keith....it was a while ago. She may have just been sleeping with him to advance her career and is now a lesbian....I don't know. Remember Anne Heche?
Robin was with Elizabeth Sarnoff during "Deadwood" and "Lost". Some say she got her roles on those shows because of her relationship with Sarnoff.
interesting thread! saw the play last night (other desert cities) and thought she totally pinged and now I have a crush on her and want to know more. she reminds me of Dana Delaney...
Gay gay gay. Fluent in German. Totally self-deceiving and very needy. Was pursued relentlessly and unhappily for a while by Cherry Jones. Entirely full of shit though not untalented.
make that Maura Tierney (who she reminds me of)
She's been a lesbian for ages, R1/R3; she just hasn't come out in the press.
Maura Tierney? Grumpy little Maura Tierney?
"Was pursued relentlessly and unhappily for a while by Cherry Jones."
@r7 : when did this happen? Details please? Thanks!
Yes, more details about the Cherry Jones pursuit, please!
Actually it was the other way around. Deeply fucked up, and truly crazy but talented. She was obsessed with Cherry Jones for years to the point of harassment which Cherry handled with incredible grace. Started her career by having sex with two very unattractive lesbian casting directors. Lived with Elizabeth Sarnoff of Lost fame and that is how she got her role on Lost. In other words, a user. They met when she was on Deadwood. Very very crazy. Burns through relationships. Leaves a trail of ruin. Was very closeted-to the point where she went to the Emmy's with Keith Caradine as a beard rather than bring her girlfriend. Currently in a lesbian movie and brought her brother to the opening. Also bearded with George Clooney in US Magazine years ago. This one has no ethics, is ruthless and yes, she speaks German as her father was a rich doctor.
The details about her obsession with Cherry are thus: robin had sex with a lesbian casting director who put her in as an understudy in a play Cherry was doing Pride's Crossing by Tina Howe. Robin then joined the cast. Based on her sexual attraction to people who have power, can advance her career and who she wants to be, she became so obsessed with Cherry that robin would burst into tears in rehearsal and run out, Or steal Cherry;s bike. This went on for years and years.
[quote]who says she 'grew up psychoanalyst'
r15, Daniel Swee was the casting director for PRIDES CROSSING. Who is the lesbian casting director Robin fucked?
she sound kookoo for cocoa puffs, but she was SO good in Deadwood...
Poor Cherry Jones seems to attract a lot of these fame-hungry women.
She's not really that talented. She was good in Lost but she's no Glenn Close/Meryl Streep/Jessica Lange.At least she didn't go the Sarah Paulson route and screw anything that can get her a job!Robin also has a complex about being better than other actors. Go figure it's not like she got her roles on sheer talent alone either.
Cherry Jones is cute BUT she's not that cute! Is that what lesbians go gaga for? She seems like a nice woman and she has nice eyes but how did she become such a sugar mama?
I'll bet Cherry Jones is good in bed.
But who was his assistant? Cherry is a wonderful actor, a star and a very open and real person. Robin wanted to be her, and called that "love,"
I have been a huge Robin Weigert fan for awhile and was really surprised to read some of the comments on here. I had now idea about the "Cherry Jones" thing. Does anyone have anymore info on that? I was under the impression she was still dating Elizabeth Sarnoff.
[quote]The details about her obsession with Cherry are thus: robin had sex with a lesbian casting director who put her in as an understudy in a play Cherry was doing Pride's Crossing by Tina Howe. Robin then joined the cast. Based on her sexual attraction to people who have power, can advance her career and who she wants to be, she became so obsessed with Cherry that robin would burst into tears in rehearsal and run out, Or steal Cherry;s bike. This went on for years and years.
Lesbian drama, lesbian hollywood clique? Thanks for the tea.
Wasn't she married to Sean Penn?
No R27, you're thinking of Robin Wright.
I have a question about Maggie Siff that I can't seem to find anywhere. She has said in several different interviews that she is getting married, however she always says the word fiance, never 'he'. Even when she talked about her wedding, same thing. She won't give any names and I can find nothing about it online. Also, she recently had a movie debut at Sundance she was in about a suburban lesbian housewife( played by Robin Weigert) who becomes a prostitute for women. Maggie plays one of the clients of Abby(Robin Weigert). In an interview Maggie said she wanted this role because it was 'close to her heart'. I guess what I want to know is, does anyone else think Maggie Siff might be a lesbian?
As much as I would love that to be true, Maggie Siff is not a lesbian. She did give an interview a couple of months ago, where she talks about her husband and her marriage in Maine.
I didn't know that about Robin and Cherry. That is actually pretty sad.
Whoever has the crush on RW-- RUN the other way.
Agreed w/previous post: she's self-delusional & deceptive. I know 2 good people who (unknowingly) got blown apart the Path of Destruction that is the twisted and certifiably narcy Ms Weigert.
Answering a couple questions: One of the casting dirs she slept into jobs with was Cindy Tolan, back in NYC. RW cheated on her, maybe with a professor. Then the Cherry Jones obsession, but RW tells it that she was the one being pursued by CJ (lie). Then she stalked an academic/writer, (Schulman?) but again claims SHE was stalked.
RW moves to LA with playwright turned tv writer, Sara, who'd totally supported RW's career during lean years, but on Deadwood now, RW does that weird thing with Carradine (was it an affair or just a beard?), then pursues & has an affair with Liz Sarnoff, screwing around on set, (but in RW's mind it didn't count as an affair 'cause she later told a blindsided Sara about it-- while she dumped her for Liz.)
After 2 years, things go south with Liz after RW doesn't get handed a contract lead on "Lost", & RW burns bridges w/the producers on "Life" via diva fits about bad writing & how her character should be better. Liz & RW split. RW immediately starts using&abusing a rich banker in NY who spoils her, but then RW cheats on her with a brief return-seduction of Liz. Liz wises up, cuts off contact with increasingly unstable RW.
RW quickly hooks up with another gf she has move in with her, but then claims to feel stifled. Gets rid of this gf by flying to DC for a funeral & fucking a family friend there. RW gets angry that the gf gets mad about this, & kicks her out of their apartment.
--Can't make this stuff up.
What's super scary is that RW flips every story around 180%, makes herself the victim and then BELIEVES IT. I've witnessed this at a dinner party where she didn't know I knew a couple of her ex-gfs & it's disturbing.
RW returns to NY to do "Angels" revival, fucks around, eventually starts affair with a married woman (shock! A writer/director who might help her career!). RW demands this girl (Kristen?) leave her husband for her.
RW gets the lead in lesbo hooker film w/Maggie Siff (yep, totally straight) - &, unknown to Kristen, RW has affair with the movie's married LESBIAN director. RW has a few more flings while still shining it on for Kristen.
Blinded by love or very shitty luck, Kristen leaves the husband as RW wanted, to start their life together, & the ink isn't even dry on the divorce when RW pulls a Jekyl/Hyde & dumps her.
RW's moved on to one, possibly two marks since then.
Apparently mental illness runs in the family (among the doctors). It would be really sad, except she takes down so many other people with her & isn't getting treated.
Nice gossip, R32. Thanks.
That seems odd, given she's not particularly beautiful.
I know a guy who is friends with Robin. Great guy but he really seems to like her, gay male so of course the dynamic is different, they went to NYU Grad together.
Robin is undeniably talented but how does she get along with other actors?
Cindy Tolan? really?? I had never heard that one.
she seems off.
I worked with her once. She hooked up with one of the women in the film. She was very nice on set but when I saw her on the street a month later she completely ignored me so, you know, fuck her.
which film, which woman?
She sounds like a real catch, I love gals who aren't afraid to live life to the fullest! Could someone make an introduction for me? But let's not tell Michelle, OK?
yeah she seems crazy as shit, but NO one has said shes without talent, that says a lot. who cares who she fucks anyway, shes a dyke. one of the very few who actually is kind of cool. that little part she did in snyedoche, new york was great. sublime as calamity jane
I'd just like her to stop taking off her clothes in so many roles.
I dunno about the acting chops-- really inconsistent. Sometimes very compelling moments of genius, but sometimes ridiculous fakey-fakey and I can't believe a line she says.
Maybe it depends on the directing?
...Or if she's sleeping with that particular writer? Or a co-star? Or the director? Or each of them over the course of the whole project?
As for the NYU guys, she burns thru a lot of friends, but less so the ones she hasn't slept with. Gay guys in her circle don't have to deal with her turning all crazy psycho bitch on them.
Maybe the NYU guys are directors or screenwriters or producers she HAS to stay friendly with, JUST IN CASE they can hire her...
Thank you for the details r32!
[Quote] That seems odd, given she's not particularly beautiful.
I agree with you r34. I wonder what her seduction secret is?
good in bed?
No, not good in bed in the...traditional sense. Unless you're into that sort of...thing.
The seduction is purely psychological. I mean, she's a bit of a predator, and really good at hooking into women who're already vulnerable to her sorts of false masks and manipulations-- especially the generous, high-empathy, provider types, and also the quiet self-haters, and the ones who think they can "rescue" Robin.
The sex is apparently, um, sort of...weird messy and gets into some, well, let's say, exploration of the darker psyche, physicalized.
To each their own. Some girls need to replay some twisted stuff to get off, and some girls pee in bed, and who are we to judge?
wait wait wait r45!
so she's into sm?
Sara Hess was Faith Prince's assistant when she met Robin when Faith and Robin were in Noises Off in NY (one example where Robin was not very good.) They got together, moved into her studio and then when Robin got Deadwood, they moved to LA. Robin got Sara a job on Deadwood, as Sara was a failed writer at the time. Now Sara writes for House. So - when Rob dumped her for Liz Sarnoff- Sara did, in a sense, get a settlement.
What I want to know is what is Kristen's last name?
Also don't forget the poor stage manager at NYTW. Another corpse.
Yeah, but Rob didn't "get" Sara Hess the freelance job on Deadwood-- you don't end up having a writing career like she does without serious chops. Rob's relationship with Sarnoff got Sara's sample work read, true, but Robin certainly didn't do the work FOR Sara or insist on a job for her. And Sara had been Robin's biggest supporter and advocate for a while...
Still probably not worth being led on, cheated on, lied to and dumped.
I didn't know she was with Sara Hess too! Damn, this woman sounds horrible.
OMG this thread is hilarious and awful!
Robin Weigert is crazy, yes yes yes. A textbook destructive narcissist!
Somebody told me Robin preys on emotional masochists, but one of the women I know who had to really work to recover from Robin's insanity is super super sweet, totally genuine, and not a masochist. This girl doesn't gossip (unlike me, obviously!) and rarely says a bad word about anyone, but quietly referred to Robin as "one sick skull-fucker". --She'll shit on you and then turn around and blame you for making her do it. "Then come the crocodile tears."
Oh get THIS: Robin had framed a torn out blurb from Us magazine rumoring she and Clooney were dating after "The Good German", (even though he doesn't even talk to her). It's FRAMED on the WALL. Doesn't have a pic of her own mother in the apartment, though.
She really does sound sick, and I feel sorry for all these woman used, chased by this psycho.
People in the business have been complicit in keeping Robin sick. They used her for her talent but didn't care when her pain and problems became obvious. At one point Andre Gregory tried to help her and sent her to a therapist- but the woman was fixated on Robin's homosexuality and was too limited to see the real problems. Men like David Milch, Tony Kushner, Mike Nichols and Richard Nelson - all had opportunities to help her get into real treatment but did nothing. Over the years various women have tried to coalesce her cohort to some kind of intervention, but each "girlfriend" thought she was the exception and systematically lashed out at the ones coming into understanding about how bad it really was. Cindy was the worst enabler of all, and that's - in a way- the saddest case, because Robin always maintained ties with Cindy because she wanted jobs. And Cindy continued to cast her, even as recently as Rebecca Miller's last film. The women who wanted to blow it all open and get Robin into real treatment were treated like pariahs because Robin was having professional success- and that was all the show biz folks cared about. Efforts that could have helped her were stymied by the business and things that kept her sick dominated. This conversation is the best thing that could happen for her. The less hidden all this is, the more motive she has to be in real treatment. Also, there is no reason for her to have a photo of her mother in her house, her mother- whose father (Robin's beloved grandfather) was also a predator- allowed Robin to be in truly heinous positions as a child.
family member, r56?
Thanks R56. Agreed that she's in the worst profession in the worst industry to help her -- acting enables her disabilities and unhealthy behavior to a grotesque extreme.
That said, she's got a long, long time therapist who is either grossly ineffectual, or just as likely, to whom she presents her best masks. If the only info the shrink gets is through Robin's completely upside-down perspective, what else does she have to work with?
And Robin does not think she's sick, know she's sick, or go for help. The people around her can only do so much-- co-workers, friends and lovers can only safely tolerate extreme emotional chaos for so long before they must protect themselves (and often fight hard to recover) by keeping well enough away, either because they've had to cut their losses and leave, or, in the case of lovers, because Robin has suddenly thrown them out when they can't fill her un-fillable needs, and she's already got her eye on the next one (whom she will again demonize for falling short).
I could see an intervention being possible for a drug or alcohol addict, but for mental illness like this, it's impossible if you can't show a real physical danger to themselves or others. Like anything else, you cannot help those who don't think they have a problem.
I doubt she'll ever see this conversation, but if she did, she'd just think those posting are the ones with the illnesses. She sees everyone around herself at fault, never truly capable of understanding how her actions hurt others (and hurts herself).
Wait-- the beloved grandfather was a predator, too? Seriously?
I just heard the mother wasn't any good at mothering and the psychologist father was brain damaged and not all there himself mentally.
But the grandfather?
Of course, it's really hard to know what stories are true IF they originated from Robin herself, because she really does rewrite history and see demons where there are none-- especially in people she envies, or who love her. The paranoia and the blaming and the projection are rife with her, and it's hard to tell if any of it is conscious or if the illness runs so deep she doesn't know she's lying.
The father was profoundly mentally ill. It would be good for Robin to see this thread.
Plenty of good people, scores of good women, have tried to offer Robin support and/or help. I agree with the other poster who says she'd have to want to change-- but she doesn't. She doesn't want to do the work, and she's hugely biased against meds, and against mental illness in general (probably because of her father; fear of his illness being somehow genetic). The fact is, she does not care whom she hurts. She has no concept of other people's pain, not in a genuinely empathic way-- so much of her interactions are a sort of play acting (and often not very good). She does not get "consequences".
I feel for her, for her pain and her being emotionally crippled by her disease/disorders, but I've seen her bald-faced lies and arrogance and dumping and self-righteous condemnation do severe damage to kind people who care enough to get close to Robin.
It's not worth it-- SHE'S not worth it.
Can't blame people in the biz for not fighting like hell to save the crazy bitch busy throwing the nice people out of the lifeboat when the ship is sinking.
If that makes any sense...
Did she sleep with someone on Sons of Anarchy? That show seems like a Deadwood reunion sometimes, which is fun. They keep bringing back her lawyer character, tho.
Forgot about the NYTW stage manager. There was a second professor, too-- some academic at NYU she was sucked in way back in the day and still strung along thru the years until pretty recently, I think. Not Schulman, someone else.
And at least one hookup on that stinker of a horror movie she did, while she was still with Liz. Her gyno must be making boatloads of dough.
Felt bad for her and the horror flick (professionally)-- she can be a decent supporting/character actor, but not a lead. Her agent should've protected her, kept her from doing that. Oy.
she ONLY got on SOA because one of the senior producers/writers is a friend she managed to not screw over, & robin needed a handout. Got one, & the friend keeps pitching storylines for the lawyer character whenever robin needs dough. i hear she behaves herself pretty much on that show, but only the dyke writer friend likes her. she met the writer on deadwood. dont kno if they ever did the nasty, but my guess is probably not, 'cause robin burns those bridges quick-- no mercy.
Hey you guys, it IS really sad.
Robin is talented. Sometimes I can't even believe she's the same actress from one role to the next.
Don't be so mean...
Does the fact that she's talented mean its okay that she's left a trail of broken hearts along the way??
r54 I think we know the same "girl." And yes, RW is a mess and I'm so glad our mutual friend got out.
Broken hearts is an understatement-- that's not the problem. The woman is a predator. She's ill, and toxic.
We're not talking about girls she leaves in tears (granted, only minutes after declaring her love) boo-hoo, we're talking about girls who have to hire therapists and go to support groups to help them recover from the exhausting, imploding life-altering insanity she's put them through.
That's not us being mean, that's trying to warn other women not to get taken by her charms, and end up totally messed up.
NYU Prof is Anne Pellegrini who went for 3 or 4 rounds. Who is Kristen, the formerly married writer/producer?
she seems too smart to fall for that kind of a charlatan....
Ok, if we're not being mean here, can we stop naming all the victims, at least? Seems unfair to them to end up linked to Robin online-- getting run over by her wasn't their fault.
r68 Surviving a relationship with a narcissistic personality is very difficult and there are lots of them in show business. RW is an extremee example.
One thing that most of her victims have in common is that they are not very attractive. Mostly behind the scenes people. There's an element there for them of being able to show off that someone god looking wants them. And they are responsible for that.
robin is not exactly gorgeous herself....
I was an intern on a play she was in years ago and she was very nice.
She was brilliant in Noises Off with Patti LuPone.
Her love life would make an EXCELLENT reality tv series....
Not true. The one I know is beautiful-- much prettier than Robin, by far.
And Erin B is attractive.
And Robin ends up sleeping with a lot of on-camera talent, too.
It's not just a bunch of ugly crew dykes who sleep with Robin to show her off-- in fact, she goes after women who make HER feel good about herself either because she wants to BE them, or to have what they have (money, power, hot careers, respect). They're usually a means to an end. And the end usually includes demeaning them to feel better about herself.
Blame the abuser, not the abused.
She sucked up to Patti (and also had the hots for her).
I'm interested in how this never hurts her casting. How can she do so much damage to so so so many people and have casting directors want to work with her? There are millions of actresses out there.
You're assuming it hasn't hurt her career, but it has. A lot of work comes via her few friends and casting people she still strings along. And she still seems to get the job done acting-wise, so there's little reason not to cast her-- it's not like acting jobs are based on personal merit-- ever.
But sure, some people won't work with her, won't cast her.
I did once hear the artistic director of the The Vineyard Theater say that she would "turn the audience against the character."
That stands to reason-- her own character (or lack thereof, or fatal character flaws) turns other people against her.
is it true she slept with practically all the women in that lesbian housewife-turned-hooker movie, that was at sundance? (all the gay ones, anyway?) anybody know?
What's the name of thr movie??
Reading and thinking about this thread has made me very sad and bitter. I tried so hard to help Robin. I reached out to her friends, ex-girlfriends and they were awful to me. They said and did hurtful things and refused to help her in any way. Here we are years later and it is all confirmed. The mental illness, the pain, the inability to get help on her own. I feel so angry and broken-hearted - folks, when someone comes to you about a friend in trouble- listen to them. You are not helping someone by pretending everything is fine and punishing the messenger. The revelation of this thread is literally making me ill.
You just have to let some people go. Also - if someone is fucked up enough to be involved with someone like that, part of the deal is the codependents have to defend the sociopath, because the s-path has sold the story of how abused and misundetstood they ar - and how that person is the one who truly get them, etc. The poor simps don't know they've been had until they've been dumped.
I've known several sociopaths that are all eerily similar - all NY theater people - but RW seems the most extreme.
R86, give yourself some support, for what you went thru
there's a place online called "abuse sanctuary", another called "out of the fog" that deals with those who've been victims of robin's type of personality disorder. another recovery site is called "love fraud"
those robin manages to keep around her must invest in her con, or face that they, too, have been conned. she's very convincing, & plays a great victim-- the best of her acting skills. sadly, robin would never appreciate your efforts to help her. she might be beyond help, even w/medication + residency treatment program & regular appts w/shrink with NPD/s-path specialty.
be good to yourself, and keep safely away from her
Yeah I was in a few spin classes with her in WeHo and discovered Robin is inconsiderate of others, snobby, and (sorry to the ones who thought she was hot, but) really really unattractive. Grossed me out.
That she's a sicko too isn't very surprising. She always expected special treatment somehow -- the rules that apply to all of us just don't apply to her.
Name of that lesbian movie asked about before is Concussion. --Which maybe she has. Or could really use.
I have always respected Robin Weigert as an actress, but I have to agree with most of the comments posted here. She is thoroughly masochistic and cares little for others. I have heard a lot of different nightmare relationship stories about her. I had heard that when Robin was in her late thirties or something she dated a girl in her early twenties and subsequently really hurt this girl emotionally. I have no idea if it's true of false, I hoped someone on here could tell me.
Don't have an answer for you, but emotional damage can happen at any age. Someone in their early 20's has fewer tools to deal with it, but even a woman in her 50's can be at risk when encountering a RW type. Anybody can get sucked in-- not just dumb chumps. And the more personal stuff you share with a RW, the "closer" and more "connected" you seem to get, the more danger you put yourself in, because they will not for a minute hesitate to use it against you-- in fact, it's guaranteed that they will; it's part of their psychopathy.