PPP: Clinton is her party’s choice for Presidential nominee at 61%
to Biden’s 12%
December 6, 2012
Raleigh, N.C. – PPP's latest poll finds Chris Christie, Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton to be the most popular politicians nation-wide. Christie and Rice received a net positive 22 percentage points each at 48/26 and 51/29, while Clinton got 57/36 favorability, +21 percentage points. Joe Biden, Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee, Paul Ryan and Elizabeth Warren received a plurality favorable to unfavorable- Biden 46/44, Bush 38/38, Huckabee 38/39, Ryan 41/42 and Warren 25/27. 3/4 of voters have no opinion either way on Governors Martin O’Malley (78%), Deval Patrick (72%), Brian Schweitzer (80%), and Sen. Mark Warner (75%). Voters generally disliked Rick Santorum, Andrew Cuomo, and Rand Paul, with 30/40, 23/33 and 32/38 respectively.
Among Democrats, Hillary Clinton is the clear favorite with 86/10 favorability; and second favorite is Joe Biden at 80/14. Clinton is her party’s choice for Presidential nominee at 61% to Biden’s 12%. On the issue of same-sex marriage, Democrats support the measure 64/31.
Paul Ryan, Mike Huckabee and Condoleezza Rice were favored most among Republicans at 74/15, 73/15 and 73/18 respectively. Even though Marco Rubio’s favorability ranks fourth (62/11), he is the GOP favorite for 2016 at 18%. Christie was runner up with14% and tied for third were Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan with 12% preference each. Santorum was the least favorite with 4% wanting to see him as their 2016 nominee. Republicans would also like to see RNC Chair Reince Priebus be replaced 37/20.
When asked about their ideology, Democrats were twice as likely to be “moderate” as Republicans 32/16. 20% of Democrats said they were “very liberal” to 39% of GOP respondents who were “very conservative”.
“Hillary Clinton is the clear choice of Democratic voters while opinions on the Republican side are pretty muddled,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “Clearly Marco Rubio’s debut on the national stage at the GOP convention was a big hit though.”
Everyone needs to stop living in the past.
She had her chance and failed.
Let's pick someone fresh who isn't damaged goods.
I agree people need to put the Obama/Clinton divisions of 2008 aside, R2, but it appears that's what many Democrats are doing for 2016.
Hillary appears to be the clear favorite for the next run so far.
What I find interesting is that Cuomo is not polling well at this point. (Not surprised about Santorum on the other side, though).
Hillary looks exhausted. She shouldn't run for president. She's clearly worn out by the State Department
Poll Troll needs to go away for awhile. Are you that starved for attention, hunny?
Please don't let them put Chris Christie up. Please
[quote]Poll Troll needs to go away for awhile. Are you that starved for attention, hunny?
Not really, no, I'm just a poster here like any other. Which means I POST things.
But I've already said I intend to do far less posting in the immediate future than I did during the election. I posted today because the early polls for 2016 are out and I thought fellow political junkies would be interested.
Fucking look FORWARD, people.
I know she won't run, but the thought of Rice as the Republican nominee is too delicious to pass up.
"Fucking look FORWARD, people."
2016 is FORWARD, dear.
Can you count? I guess your dick isn't the only thing that doesn't work.
Please, bitch @ r10.
Obama didn't win because he LOST the election 20 years ago to Reagan.
The Clintons are over as a brand.
Let GO, Mary.
Nope. If Hillary runs, she will get it. It's that simple.
Now clean your soiled caftan.
R11, are you being serious?
Bill Clinton has a 66% approval rating, and Hillary Clinton's is even higher right now according to some polls. They are amongst the most popular brand in the country.
If Hillary "gets it" she will lose the general election.
Now go fuck yourself.
R14, what do you base that on?
She's too white, she's too tired, she has too much baggage, she'll be too old, and she'll still have cankles.
R16, what about that little thing called her record-high approval rating?
And R16 is still four hundred pounds, and still needs two sticks of butter to get him wedged out of the basement door.
Sec of state is a whole different gig from Prez. People "approve" of Michelle O, too. Neither one will ever be prez.
Hillary would be a big mistake. She (and her hubby) has too many baggages. Who wants to go through all of that again?
Jesus, you pathetic Hillary queens remind me of the jackasses with the Confederate Flags in the back of their F-150s.
You LOST, Sue Bob. Get over it.
R19, R20, R21, 2008 is over, as is 2012. This is about 2016. And at this point in time the polls are showing that the large majority of Democrats want Hillary to run.
Why turn it into something else?
You better hope Hillary runs because she's the only Democrat who can beat Rubio, Christie, or Bush.
[quote]Why turn it into something else?
Because she will LOSE.
R24, you need to back up your comments with something other than your personal opinion.
At this point in time, Hillary is actually in a stronger position to win a Presidential election than she was in 2008. She had much more polarized numbers from Republicans then. Now she has more crossover and Independent support.
No, she wouldn't lose. A Washington Post poll released this week shows her winning women by a landslide--GAME OVER. She even wins white, married women, who voted for Romney and McCain.
WOW! I guess it is a good thing that we cannot breed naturally as this thread indicates we would eat our own young.
Who the fuck would want doofus Biden? I'm not sure the man can count to ten.
I've learned to love Joe Biden, but not in a Presidential way.
R5. Jesus Christ, don't insult The Poll Troll.
What the hell is your problem?! The Poll Troll is one of the best on DL.
Way too early to tell. I mean, Hillary was far and away the frontrunner for the nomination as we approached 2008.
A lot can happen. Depends on what we're reacting to at the time.
If the Clintons are over as a brand, then why did Obama need Bill so badly?
Hell, Bill was the star at the convention.
Jesus, you queens are nasty. I wouldn't go as far as R23, but if Hillary decides to run, she'd be a shoe-in for the Dem nomination. I'm sure other Dem nominees like Cuomo, O'Malley, Patrick, etc would have a decent shot at the presidency against the likes of Bush, Christie, etc, but Hillary is in an entirely different league and everybody knows it.
If she wins, she would give us two full consecutive terms of White House Democratic control -- a first since the early 50s.
Assuming she would win re-election in 2020, that is.
Anyone who thinks Hillary would lose the election is too stupid it live. And baggage? That meme was distorted years ago. Obama has more baggage and he was able to pull off reelection. America loves and trusts the Clinton's even more than the Obamas. Bill saved Barack's ass.
It's like 2006 all over again. Oh, Uncle Eldergay, won't you please tell me how this story ends?!
[quote] Way too early to tell. I mean, Hillary was far and away the frontrunner for the nomination as we approached 2008.
Which is why she should get anyone thinking of jumping in line (like in '08) in a room and say "Listen, fuckers, if you try I will destroy you and you will be SHUT OUT of Democratic politics. We will primary you out of office!"
All the people who believe Hillary when she says she's tired are just playing into her plans. She says she's tired because she knows she looks beat and knows she'll get some minor work done within the next year or two. When she reemerges she'll look better and people will think it's because she's well rested. Then she'll say during her time away she realized she still thinks she has something to offer America and will anounce her run.
r37 cracked me up. What a scene that would be!
Thanks for the poll, 2016 Poll Troll.
HRC in 2016.
R37. I wish Hillary had been able to do that in 2008.
Polls this early out are meaningless. Of course Clinton would be the favorite right now. She's the only Democrat (other than Biden) with name recognition.
[quote] Which is why she should get anyone thinking of jumping in line (like in '08) in a room and say "Listen, fuckers, if you try I will destroy you and you will be SHUT OUT of Democratic politics. We will primary you out of office!"
If anything, Obama's success in 2008 would be MORE likely to make up-and-comers decide to run sooner rather than later. If Obama's second term is successful and 2016 looks like it could be another good year for Democrats, it would be foolish for any Democrat with serious presidential aspirations to say, "Nah, I think I'll wait until 2020." You have to strike while the iron is hot.
[quote]If Hillary "gets it" she will lose the general election
What are you basing that assertion on?
Not only is Hillary quite popular, but I fully expect the Republican Party to double down on the right-wing craziness and nominate some Bible-waving borderline fascist (Santorum 2016?) who will drive every semi-reasonable American to the polls to save us from the brownshirts. Why shouldn't Hillary win under those (likely) conditions?
During the election, in their hatred for Obama, the GOP were actually nostalgic for the Clinton years and repeatedly used Clinton's record against Obama's to show how incompetent he is on the economy.
I have no doubt that they will attack any Democrat mercilessly, but the Clintons love a good fight.
2008 was a very different climate. After 8 miserable years of GWB, everyone needed fresh blood. Someone new. Someone not yet tainted by politics. Someone with soaring rhetoric to unite the country. Obama was that person.
4 years later, the country realizes that experience -- more than soaring rhetoric -- is what the country needs most.
Hillary is that person.
I hope Hillary would have the good sense to hire Jim Messina, who ran Obama's campaign, along with Stephanie Cutter and Ben LaBolt to run her campaign. David Axelrod is head of a university now so he won't be available. Her team from 2008 was terrible and the main reason she lost. Unfortunately, the Clintons are extremely loyal and tend to work with the same people over and over again.