We should all know what the end of the world is going to sound like by now. It will have a deep voice, followed by a LOUD horn blowing and large objects crashing into a crowded street full of people.
Aside from that horrible tailer cliché Cumberbatch, Pine, and Quinto look good- they all look good.
Looks good. Also still has to be acknowledged that seeing a young openly gay actor being a major part of a blockbuster franchise is a cool thing.
How can people STILL be debating who Cumberbatch actually is in this movie?
It's been filmed, obviously someone knows and it's been leaked.
IMDB says Kahn, but that seems implausible. Gary Mitchell is s much better fit - why all the mystery?
I'M MASTURBATING FURIOUSLY AS I TYPE WITH MY NOSE!!!
The Japanese trailer shows a scene the mimics Spock's death in Wrath of Kahn-with the two hands on the glass. Kirk hand is up against it a way similar to the vulcan salute but it's not exactly. This has to be a total misdirection.
I think it's Gary Mitchell's death scene - and Cumberbatch's hand. Maybe this is something that happens before he comes back all superhuman and pissed off.
Given the brillant fact that they've rebooted the series and switched things around- anything can happen now.
I can't wait for this movie.
r1 A teaser has just a few seconds of footage. That seems like a full blown trailer to me.
The Enterprise looks awfully small. Isn't it supposed to be much bigger?
I'm pretty sure Cumberbatch is playing Gary Mitchell, and if so, Alice Eve is the character Sally Kellerman played in TOS episode featuring Mitchell (they have the same hairstyle).
I loved the part where Zachary Quinto screamed "You Bitch!" at Chris Pine and slapped him across the face.
I suspect Quinto will be the odd man out of the promo game this time around -- Pine and Cumberbatch will probably present a united publicity front.
Thanks OP!! I loved the first reboot but think Benedict Cumberbach will be better than Eric Bana. (The music and action in the trailer reminded me a tad of the Prometheus one.)
I'll be totally pissed if it's Cumbersnatch touching hands with Spock. If it's not Kirk...it should be Bones. DAMMIT!
Lol, R12. Why not a three/foursome Star Trek orgy! Throw Sulu in there too while we're at it.
The guy who plays Bones (forget his name) looks and sounds so much like DeForest Kelley it's a little eerie.
Star Trek is supposed to be cerebral, a feast and puzzle for the mind about ethics and science. What I just watched in that trailer is the furthest thing from it. It's like making a Twilight Zone movie and it turning out to be Saw X.
Interesting that it appears like the majority of it takes place on Earth. They haven't had that since ST4, which was of course partially comedic.
I know the Internets are rife with talk that Cumberbatch is Khan, but I think you bitches are forgetting that in the original Khan is pissed at Kirk because he left him stranded in an episode from the original ST, and left him there to rot for 20 years. How on earth would they do this with the reboot cast, given the lack of a time interval? Also, there's one shot of him jumping 20 feet in the air that would seem to imply this particular villain has some sort of Superman-style superpowers, on Earth at least (not sure if this is due to gravity being lighter than his home planet or the sun's power a la Superman).
Finally, that brief shot of a Starfleet ship rising out of some sort of sand or ground does not appear to be the Enterprise. Just sayin'.
[quote]Star Trek is supposed to be cerebral, a feast and puzzle for the mind about ethics and science.
r17 never watched the original Trek, and thinks she's cute.
"Given what happens to Vulcan itself in the rebooted franchise, I wonder if to JJ Abrams, it just didn't seem right to cast Jewish people--and Jewish culture--in the role of "friendly but vaguely sinister aliens."
Whereas that is a technically accurate description of the British."
Interesting observation. Depicting the Jewish as anything sinister has socio-political repurcussions, whereas the Brits have always been available to be portrayed as sinister if someone wants a sophisticated interpretation of villainy. It's more aesthetically acceptable to use a Brit in that fashion. And no one is offended.
R19, interesting that that analysis fails to point out the alleged villain's name is Khan, which is of course a commonplace name in Arab countries.
Cumberbatch is not Kahn.
My questions is... who is Peter Weller playing?
[quote]Aside from that horrible tailer cliché Cumberbatch, Pine, and Quinto look good- they all look good.
Thank God! All I care about when I see movies is, 'Do the male stars look good?"
I've never understood the love-fest for the Star Trek re-boot.
A complete lack of imagination on the part of the screen writers in that they had to haul in Leonard Nimoy to play Spock... the ridiculous destruction of Vulcan... the meeting of both Spock's... seriously? This has made ST fans cum all over themselves? It was just. plain. stupid.
All of that pisses me off even more because the movie started out so well. Great re-casting of the main characters, good stuff at Starfleet, introducing Christopher Pike, etc... then blech.
It doesn't hurt R23, which is why the entertainment industry has been hiring attractive actors and actresses since the dawn of the industry. People enjoy watching attractive people, it ain't rocket science.
And honestly the only things you can really say about this trailer are there are lots of action scenes and how the cast looks.
The only thing that really bothered me about the re-boot was the destruction of Vulcan. But I'm so happy that Rick Berman and Brannon Braga are not involved in it, I'll overlook just about anything.
[quote]It doesn't hurt [R23], which is why the entertainment industry has been hiring attractive actors and actresses since the dawn of the industry. People enjoy watching attractive people, it ain't rocket science.
They do, I agree. But if that's all there is, then what you basically get in The Young and the Restless or The Bold and the Beautiful. Why some people want to see pretty people who can't act (like most soap opera stars) over non-pretty people who can act (Kathy Bates, Philip Seymour Hoffman) outside of porn is just beyond me.
And I certainly don't go to see Star Trek movies to look at pretty people.
What makes you think that's the Enterprise, r8? There is more than one spaceship in the future, ya know.
"I suspect Quinto will be the odd man out of the promo game this time around -- Pine and Cumberbatch will probably present a united publicity front."
You may be right. Quinto is barely in the teaser, and I'm sure Paramount would rather not put too much attention on the 'mo given the primarily young male (and insecure) audience for the film.
Plus Cumberbatch is the latest hot thing from Britain.
For those interested, more spoilers and Easter eggs from io9:
Exactly what R15 said. This is the Star Wars-ization of Star Trek.
[quote]I'm sure Paramount would rather not put too much attention on the 'mo given the primarily young male (and insecure) audience for the film.
Right. Paramount specifically kept Quinto out of the trailer because they're terrified -- TERRIFIED -- that young straight men might go "oh FUCK! Spock's a FAG! We can't see this shit!" and bolt out. That makes perfect sense!
The Google ad that first popped up was "meet old gay men".
Eyebrows people! Quiet on the set.
Actually, r15, I keep hearing Michael Bay's name as a reference, which is actually much worse.
Nothing annoys the geek set like similarities to Michael Bay movies.
I agree with R15. I hope I'm wrong because I had a bad feeling about the first one but I ended up liking it. But this looks like just any other action movie out there.
r21, he's not Khan. Insiders are speculating he is Gary Mitchell.
R2, I'm sooo insulted.
Oh. Young "openly" gay actor.
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I like Cumberbatch a lot. They're all decent actors. And the plot line is supposedly where Kirk "grows up" in a sense. He has to suffer loss and know the consequences of his own decision etc.
I think this will be good.
R32...you have no idea how homophobia works in the commercial realm, do you fraulein?
It looks like every action film/SF cliche crammed into a minute and a half and Bonnydick Honeybunch (whose face barely registered in the few seconds it's onscreen) sounds like he's doing his Jeremy Irons impression. You could take out the shots of Kirk and splice in the Doctor and Amy Pond and it wouldn't make any difference.
Honestly, this doesn't say "Gary Mitchell" to me at all. It does seem like a completely different take on Kahn. It could, of course, be neither of them. This could all be misdirection. The 'Gary Mitchell' thing seemed to come out of the blue, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were studio misdirection. Mitchell had the powers of a god...why would he be carrying a weapon? that makes no sense. I still think it's Kahn.
R19...though you are missing one interesting point. There are times where Brits have been traditionally used as villains in American movies, in a way that suggests they are fey and a bit 'queer'. There's sometimes a subtext to that use of villain. A lot of Americans think that anyone with a British accent is a bit poofy .
Oh my GAWD, this looks great!!!
r43 This is star trek . No theories are going to "come out of the blue". People literally study this series and post shit all over the internet.
[quote]Mitchell had the powers of a god...why would he be carrying a weapon? that makes no sense. I still think it's Kahn.
1) Mitchell didn't start out a villain. He was Kirk's friend in the academy who was transformed by ... some nerdy space accident. Stuff seen so far fits that storyline perfectly.
2) The blonde female they cast is styled VERY MUCH like the female friend of Mitchell's who also changed in Mitchell's episode. She was the only one who could help take Mitchell down because she acquired some similar powers.
Having him be Kahn would be ridiculous because 1) Kahn is suppsoed to be a person of Indian ancestry. 2) The writers have already shot the Kahn idea down because of point No. 1 3) Kahn has been done. It's tired and ripe for clichés.Gary Mitchell, however, would be new to (an tv) audiences and most any of the audience outside of hardcore trek fandoms.
R46..the Mitchell rumor is recent. I hadn't realized there were Harvard University courses on 'studying' rumors about upcoming Star trek rumors...fascinating!
The fans could be wrong. I can see the clues you're pointing to, but it doesn't mean it's Mitchell. The blonde could be Nurse Chapel for all you know. :) Or that yeoman who was always trying to get into Kirk's pants. Yeoman Rand. She might be styled a bit like Sally Kellerman's character, but it that doesn't mean it's her.
" He was Kirk's friend in the academy who was transformed by ... some nerdy space accident. Stuff seen so far fits that storyline perfectly."
No, it doesn't.
Ok, r47. r48.
Behind the scenes leaked footage show Cumberbatch's character beating Spock and being impervious to the Vulcan nerve pinch. What other character with a starfleet shirt and have that kind of power?
Jesus people, this isn't that difficult to put together.
Put me down for another vote guessing that it looks like the plot is going to be a reworking of "Where No Man Has Gone Bfore," with bandersnatch as Gary Mitchell and the blonde woman pictured as Sally Kellerman's character, Dr. Elizabeth Dehner.
I want them to have the creepy aluminum foil eyes, however.
From the official synopsis:
[quote]With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction. ...
When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from [italic]within their own organization[/italic] has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for, leaving our world in a state of crisis.
Mitchell is the only villain "from within their own organisation" that fits the bill.
I've got a new trailer coming out, it's called, "My trailer is dropping" and it's dropping.
Queen of Jordan
"The guy who plays Bones (forget his name) looks and sounds so much like DeForest Kelley it's a little eerie."
Karl Urban doesn't really look anything like DeForest Kelley, but he does such a good imitation of his voice and body language that it's like watching Kelley reborn.
Anyway, my chief response to the trailer is to get fangirly tingles whenever I see Cumberbacht. He was made to play superpowered villains!
Make it so.
49, Kahn was impervious to the nerve pinch. He had been part of an experiment to create a super race of beings. His strength was much greater than that of a normal man, as was his endurance.
From Hell's heart, I stab at thee! For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!
Quinto implied that this is his last Star Trek film.
Then Quinto has been dropped like a homo hot potato, because he wouldn't turn down the sweet paycheck and exposure that Trek brings.
Yeah, I wonder about that too. it makes no sense that Quinto would leave the franchise he professes to love. They kept him on for this one, so as not to appear homophobic, but are ditching him afterwards. It's offensive.
Spock won't die this time. It'll be Kirk who "dies". Somehow, before they are separated by the glass, Spock absorbs Kirk's spirit("Katra") and somehow Kirk gets re-engergized in the next film. Perhaps Genesis is developed early(The blonde could be Carol Marcus). Spock will suffer like Bones did in Trek III, until he gets Kirk out of his head.
As for Bones, I guess he'll continue to be on the fucking backburner. He's there anyways, as they seem to think Uhura should take his place in the "Big Three".
"That Green blooded sonofabitch"
Best line ever in Star Trek. What a shame the awesome Bones/Spock rivalrly will likely be dropped so we can devote time to the hard on that execs have for Zoe Saldana.
I totally agree re: "The Big Three" - it pains me; oh, it pains me.
Quinto won't quit or be fired. He is renegotiating. He got almost better reviews than Pine and is essential for the franchise to continue. His higher demands will be met and he will agree to appear in three more movies.
No way they're getting rid of Quinto.
If you're a Cumberbatch fancier I highly recommend the miniseries "To the Ends of the Earth," the first two episodes of which give you a pretty good look at the Cumberbuns.
Gary Mitchell fits the description...but, so does Garth of Izar, the criminally insane former captain from the Tantalus penal colony.
That said, I'd go with Gary since the opening scene in dress uniform seems to suggest a funeral of some sort - and Gary would have been deemed lost.
Karl Urban already said he's Gary Mitchell in an interview he gave when he was doing publicity for Dredd.
The blonde woman who looks like Billie Piper is rumored to be either Dr. Dehner or Carol Marcus. I actually think Marcus might be more likely, as she and Gary were originally supposed to be in the first movie. I'm still holding out slim hope for Nurse Chapel.
It did strike me as odd, because they've been publishing a comic book series for the past year or so that retells classic episodes in the reboot universe. They're actually pretty satisfying. But one of the ones they've already done was "Where No Man Has Gone Before," and it just struck me as odd that Paramount would sign off on that knowing the movie was in the pipe.
Personally, I was hoping they'd go for "Balance of Terror" for this movie, but I know I was in the minority there.
The Voice of the Night
Don't forget that guy from Conscience of King that massacred all those people. An Finnegan, Kirk's nemesis in Shore Leave.
Okay, Who the Fuck is "John Harrison"?
John Harrison is a red herring. And while we're on the subject: Quinto was on Conan when Cumberbatch and Pine were in Japan promoting the movie. He is getting star billing and participating fully in the PR campaign--you are totally wrong if you think that a terrific talent like Quinto would be thrown under the bus because he is gay by anyone associated with a franchise like Star Trek in 2012. This movie is going to be GREAT! And another thing, Alice Eve has a natural-looking face while Billy Piper's has clearly been molded out of plastic; there is no more resemblance there than there is between a celeb and her bobble-head doll.
It's a re-imagining of Kahn. In fact--it's Madeline Kahn!
Oh sweet mystery of life at last I've found you
So do we think it's "Garth of Izar" ?
The prologue hints to him having some kind of healing ability. I think I'll be disappointed if he's not playing Gary Mitchell. "Garth" is such an unfortunate name for any character outside of Wayne's World.
Gary Mitchell would be a ridiculous adversary. He was only defeated in the series because he gave his lover the powers of a god and she helped bring him down.
It needs to be Kahn.
[quote]Quinto was (elsewhere) when Cumberbatch and Pine were... promoting the movie.
LOL, get used to that phrase.
He'll never learn the secrets of Chris's musky hole!
I don't think Gary Mitchell "gave" her the power,I haven't seen the episode in years but I think she got her powers the same way he did,her's were just weaker than his.
[quote]Quinto was on Conan when Cumberbatch and Pine were in Japan promoting the movie.
Quinto also has a tv show to promote whereas Pine and BC are not actively starring in one at the moment (Sherlock is on hiatus for now).
So, what do you think Quinto was doing on Conan but promoting his own show and the movie? That's not exactly being made invisible.
From all accounts so far it sounds like Harrison is an amalgamation of
Mitchell and that Izar dude.
According to Cumberbatche's latest interview,
1) He has extrahuman physical [italic]and mental powers [/italic] (he can "sow an idea in people's minds").
2) He's a terrorist who could be viewed as a "leader."
3) He has some kind of secret which the plot reveals.
That first part about being able to sow ideas in people's minds means he wouldn't have to be a shape shifter to hide his identity.
There's nothing off about them leaving Quinto out of the Japan trip. They left behind Zoe, Urban and the rest of the cast too. It's not a premiere, it's a teaser months ahead of the premiere. At this point the major interest is on the villain, and as it turns out (and Paramount would have already been well aware) Cumberbatch has a substantial following in Japan. Based on accounts, Cumberbatch was mobbed everywhere by fans while almost nobody gave a fuck about Pine. Couldn't even be bothered to ask Pine for an autogragh when they were sure they'd have no chance to get through the crowd surrounding Cumberbatch.
They brought Cumberbatch to fire enthusiasm but it was appropriate to bring along a token member of the Enterprise crew. Kirk is the obvious choice as the lead of the ensemble and Pine wasn't otherwise engaged.
[quote] He has extrahuman physical and mental powers (he can "sow an idea in people's minds").
My impression from the interviews has been that the mental powers are probably just regular human abilities (like intelligence and manipulation) but hightened to a really impressive level. I don't think they meant something like psychic powers.
After seeing the preview before The Hobbit, my husband has cast his lot in with Khan. I'm still sticking with Gary Mitchell until given compelling proof otherwise.
The Voice of the Night
Here's the first 9 minutes. The video quality isn't the greatest, but it's still watchable.