What FACTS did Dubya know before 9/11, that PROVE he could have prevented the tragedy? Truthers/tinhats this does NOT apply

1) Daily briefings post 8/6/11 have not been released. Why are they still classified? Must we wait for another 50 years to learn the truth of how damaging they must be for Dubya's administration? 2) On learning of the 1st airplane crash, Dubya responded by immediately looking at his watch and then freezing in total shock. Why was it so crucial for him to verify the time? 3) Who are the top researchers/investigative reporters following the details of this case? I'm very knowledgeable on top secret info that would answer the above questions.

• [quote]3) Who are the top researchers/investigative reporters following the details of this case? I'm very knowledgeable on top secret info that would answer the above questions. Take your meds, OP.

• Dick Cheney falsely claimed that only the president had the authority to shoot down a plane full of passengers. If that were the case Bush was negligent in failing to issue shoot-down orders before the plane allegedly struck the Pentagon a full 30 minutes AFTER Bush was informed that the USA was under attack.

• R1, Never in my life have I been on any meds. I would demand a lie detector test before discussing anything, to prove my honesty. I will NOT allow you or anyone else to derail this thread, like the tinhats and birthers and haters on the last thread. Perhaps since YOU are so quick to judge, you can answer my questions as stated. What was in the daily briefings post 8/6/11 that required them to be classified?

  OP

• R1, Bush knew in advance that "the White House was threatened." The plane instead crashed in the middle of an empty field in PN. Why else was he physically taken far away from what would have logically been the safest place for him to dictate a further course of action?

• [quote]Never in my life have I been on any meds. Untreated mental illness is not something to brag about, OP, no matter how much it helps to explain things for us.

• Hey I don't deny that Bush knew in advance. OP sounds like a nutcase claiming to have top secret info. Do you talk to space aliens too?

  r1

• R5, Are you the same nutjob who also hurled false accusations when I said that MR would lose, and lose badly in NV? YOU sound like the INSANE one that totally ignored logic pointing to Obama's guaranteed win. Only those totally without moral character cruelly attack those with whom they disagree. I expect that the threats will get worse as I gain the avenue to prove my point. Bush did not plan 911; he just chose to ignore the very specific and detailed info that he was given post 8/6/11.

• OP, what is it exactly you are asking in question 3? I've already suggested Seymour Hersh. There have been French investigative journalists. Until journalists publish reports, how is one to answer definitively your stupid query?

• R1, R6, Of course I don't talk to space aliens. In fact I don't believe there is life other than on Earth, unless you are considering some form of basic plant-based organism. I happen to live in a city where the 911 perpetrators visited. They hung out within a mile of where I resided and worked. The entire area was thus crawling with FBI investigators after the attack. So how do you logically know that I am not aware of "inside info?" I have had many close friends from the Mid East as well. Most that live near to me were questioned post 911. R1, R6, Instead of trying to derail my thread, why don't you try and address the questions I've already posed? Here's another one for you. Since the daily briefings were stopped 8/6/11, exactly when were they continued post-911?

• [quote]Never in my life have I been on any meds. Maybe now's the time, hon. Just a thought. Especially if you've had this SAME SINGLE CONSPIRACY THEORY lolling around in your head now for ELEVEN YEARS. [quote]Only those totally without moral character cruelly attack those with whom they disagree. But calling someone who disagrees with you an "insane nutjob" is totally fine? Pot, meet kettle.

• You say you have top secret info that would answer your own questions. So what is it you're looking for? Why not release the information you have to major media people? Or your congresspeople? What is holding you back?

• how about Kurt Eichenwald at the NYT?

  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html%3F_r%3D3%26

• R10, R11, I told you I don't believe in conspiracy; just extreme incompetence and negligence on the part of the Bush adm in ignoring specific info. I was scheduled to go on a talk show right after 911; the subject was too hot and the show "was killed." There is a press block on much of the info anyway, and I'm not positive how to go around it. You would have to know more about me personally to know why I now think that this is a good time to reveal what I know. Suffice to say that I no longer need an outside income. This was not the case earlier. I did approach someone very powerful in the world of entertainment, who had media connections, fairly recently. He was aware of some of the info that I know, without me having to discuss all of it. I have now totally given up on his promises of assistance. Once burned, twice shy. I do not know "major media people." As I said I would not reveal anything without first being given a lie detector test. If I were "tinhat," then why would I make that a requirement? I know that there are those on DL who have contacts that I don't. That's why I posed the request here for honest investigative reporters. Contact Congresspeople? Are you kidding me? I tried to get them to investigate blatant fraud in the Census Bureau that I and my friends personally witnessed; they wouldn't even do anything about that. A poster who cruelly attacks another as "on" or "needing meds," without knowing anything about them, or what they can have experienced, is indeed IMHO an insane nutjob without a heart. I've seen it many times on DL. Considering many posters have been attacked for who they are in the past, I am horrified that they now attack others. You may recognize my many posts defending strangers that are likewise falsely accused for no valid reason. Yes I have learned to retaliate against those who will falsely attack me on DL and elsewhere.

• What is the significance of 8/6/11, almost ten years after 9/11? Are you saying that the Obama administration has information of a huge cover up and is not revealing it for security reasons?

  AnonEMoose

• lithium

• [quote]As I said I would not reveal anything without first being given a lie detector test. If I were "tinhat," then why would I make that a requirement? I don't think anyone's questioning whether YOU believe your claims are true; the question is whether they ARE true, or even COULD be true, or have even a SCINTILLA of truth -- which, based on the manic nature of your posts and abject refusal to admit to any specific detail, they do not. Just because you can pass a lie-detector test doesn't mean something is true, hon. It merely proves you THINK it's true.

• R8, R12, I've already tried googling both men. They must have a private email address, that would work better than contacting a huge publication, and being ignored by a layer of secretaries. I'd rather not comment publicly at this time, as the info I have is quite involved and lengthy. R14, I'd be shocked if the Obama Adm isn't aware of the huge coverup.

• R16, Exactly what "detail have I refused to admit to" IYHO? I will say that my story is very involved, and too lengthy for a few posts on DL. How would you like me to prove that I was in discussions to appear on a talk show, at that time?

• [quote]Exactly what "detail have I refused to admit to" IYHO? Where do you live? What talk show were you scheduled to go on until your supposed topic became "too hot" to discuss? Do you think your life will be in danger if you answer these questions on a gay gossip board? Do you think most people, in general, are out to get you?

• [quote] What talk show were you scheduled to go on until your supposed topic became "too hot" to discuss? It must have been a radio show, Coast to Coast maybe

• OP, why don't you contact the DL poster who posted a thread seeming to know something big was going to happen the morning the Osama Bin Ladin kill raid occurred?

• Of course it was NOT a radio show. I have even never heard of Coast to Coast; I don't listen to the radio. Actually it was Dr. Keith Ablow. I had stated my requirement that a lie detector test be administered before I would reveal any information. I was told that Dr. Ablow could easily tell that I was NOT lying. I regret there was a press block on the subject matter.

• R19, I do not think that ANYONE is "out to get me, ever." I live in Las Vegas; I was working at Bellagio right before 9/11. My exit interview with the head of HR at that time was approx 8/13/01. I have since interviewed at Wynn, (Mr. Steve Wynn knows who I am) and have worked for other casinos. You might be aware of the very extensive background checks casinos do before hiring. Obviously I would not have been hired if it was deemed that I was or needed to be on lithium. Yes I was subjected to a repeated barrage of very personal questions, that in CA I do believe would have been illegal to ask. (ex. Why won't you tell us what your long since dead father did for a living? Why won't you give us the addresses&phone numbers of all of your siblings' places of work?) Being on a gay gossip board has nothing to do with anything, except that I firmly believe that some posters/readers are very logical, brilliant and have direct connections to media that I lack. In contrast others seem to enjoy really dissing and insulting others, something I find very offensive. I have always tried to post helpful comments to benefit others. Please note my many articles attacking "pray the gay away therapy." I don't know why my style of writing is now being questioned. I try my best to communicate clearly; obviously I'm not a professional writer. I would prefer to dismiss from my mind any thoughts that I might have ever been in danger. Still it's very strange when people know very personal things about me that I did not tell them. Maybe others just love to gossip. Won't be the first time in my life that I have been dissed for "just standing out."

• R21, How would I contact that poster? I was not on DL at that time.

• You're going about this wrong OP. You have to look back to Rumsfeld changing the air force interception protocol.

• The 9/11 stand down. Pretty much every explanation of this from the military or the White House was an easily verifiable whopper, including an article from Aviation Week with so many lies it has the perverse effect of suggesting that the trillions we've spent on an "air force" since Vietnam have been stolen and there are no planes.

  http://www.oilempire.us/standdown.html

• If you have a legit story, and aren't some delusional/mentally ill crank, Eichenwald will listen.

• I see you have trouble getting your mail, too.

  http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html#page:showThread,12210020,1

• R27, Thank you very much. Makes all of the dissing I sometimes get on DL worth it, just to get the right info. I assure you that I am not delusional or a crank, and look forward to proving that fact. I already emailed a quick note to Eichenwald. I was just concerned that I didn't have the best possible email to reach him directly. He must get flooded with inquiries. R28, Guess what? NV new Jr Senator just told me that NV Postmaster General's new assistant has so many, angry residents complaining about poor delivery, that it will be a few days before she will contact me. In the meantime, I actually got mail delivery today. Wonder where the mail from yesterday went?

• Try Robert Windrem at NBC News. Story (from 9/2012) he did on Eichenwald's op ed at link. I guess Eichenwald is not with NYT anymore.

  http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/11/13809524-evidence-piles-up-that-bush-administration-got-many-pre-911-warnings%3Flite

• R24, try Manvox. I understand he posts there.

• R30, I am trying to follow up with all suggestions. Do you have a valid email for Robert Windrem?