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- Best Supporting Actor: Matthew McConaughey (BERNIE, MAGIC MIKE)
- Matthew McConaughey for Magic Mike and Bernie!!
- Best Animated Film: FRANKENWEENIE
- Matthew McWhatever? really?
- ANNE WAS ROBBED!!! ANNE WAS ROBBED!!!!
Deranged Les Miz Queen
- Best Foreign Language Film: AMOUR
- troll thread
- Suck it, Anne!
Sally
- Why is this a troll thread?
- They LIKE her! They REALLY REALLY like her!
- The NYFCC doesn't mean anything! Nothing! They probably haven't seen Les Mis yet and when they do they'll take it back!
- Oh, how nice of them to toss her a bone.
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- If Anne was robbed, it was by her felon ex.
The critics' awards will be spending the next few months finding their rightful place on Sally's mantle. I do hope Anne sees the type of career she can enjoy if she tones down the insufferable cunt routine.
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- I'm crying and slapping my assistant as we speak!!
Amy Adams, Box Office Poison
- Best Actress: Rachel Weisz (THE DEEP BLUE SEA)
- Great call on Weisz, its ridiculous that she's not a frontrunner.
- Funny, when I won an Oscar in 2007 for Best Supporting Actress for my performance in Dreamgirls - which was pretty much delivering a powerhouse performance of the best song from the show - the NYFCC gave ME their Best Supporting Actress award...
Perhaps you should dream another dream, Miss Hathaway?
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- Sigh, I showed my pussy for nothing.
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- She's definitely in the mix, now. Feinberg has always had her under the "Possibilities" heading.
- Sorry r9. I thought it was a joke.
Of all the acting in Lincoln, Sally Field is the only one of whom've I heard wasn't good. My friend were laughing in theaters.
And she won an award?
- If you weren't such a racist misogynist you'd prefer someone else, OP, you racist misogynist!
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- Why would Spielberg and DDL want her if she wasn't good, r20? She only got the part because they both wanted her. They didn't want her for marquee value, she hadn't done a movie in years. Your friends' response was an outlier.
- Best Actor: Daniel Day-Lewis (LINCOLN)
- [quote] Funny, when I won an Oscar in 2007 for Best Supporting Actress for my performance in Dreamgirls - which was pretty much delivering a powerhouse performance of the best song from the show - the NYFCC gave ME their Best Supporting Actress award...
And former NYFCC supporting actress winners Jessica Chastain, Amy Ryan, Virginia Maden, Maria Bello, Shohreh Aghdashloo and Patricia Clarkson are all still waiting for their Oscars.
- No Hugh Jackman for Best Actor???
Occupy Broadway.
- Oh man, R24 and the Les Jizz army is going to get Bitch-YYY.
- Director: Tom Hooper (Les Miserables)
- The only troll here is a Hathaway Troll at r20, who is quickly becoming the Cotillard Nine Troll.
- R20? Come back when you can speak English.
- Not so fast, R27.
- R24, they weren't in musicals.
- Best Actor: Daniel Day Lewis.
Other than McConnagay, this is how the acting awards will play out.
- best actress, Rachel Weisz THE DEEP BLUE SEA
- Best Director has not been announced yet, and it's not going to be Tom "master shot" Hooper.
Man, the Les Mizzies are desperate. Are we going to have to put up with this until it flops at the box office and gets shut down by Lincoln at the Oscars?
- Special Overall Prize For Everything: Les Miserables.
- Special Achievement in Unbearable Musical Adaptation: Les Miserables.
- Delighted for Weisz, who was great, and now has a chance to compete for the oscar; a chance she certainly would have had if the movie would have been released later in the year; NYFCC has now brought her and MM into the foreground for the awards season.
Delighted also for David France for winning for the outstanding How to Survive a Plague for best first film. The first time a documentary has won in that category!
- It's gotta be Spielberg and Lincoln then?
- Or a quick switch to Bigelow and Zero Dark Thirty?
- Kushner wins screenplay.
- The only juggernaut at the Academy Awards will be "Lincoln." It's a master class in acting and it's a film about the single most beloved and revered American figure in history helmed by a distinctly American director, written by acted by the most gifted male actor alive.
You really have no idea about how the Academy works. "Lincoln" hits every major touchstone the members like and want in their films, AND it's a major studio release.
Les Miz might have a shot in a weaker year, but it had no hope this year.
- Bigelow wins Director.
- Up to now I predicted everything like the NYFCC which I posted at the "OK ladies, I'm calling the Oscars now" except for actress which was obviously a joke on my part.
Best Picture - Lincoln
Director - Kathryn Bigelow
Actor - Daniel Day lewis
Actress - Nene Leakes
Supporting Actor - Matthew McConaughey
Supporting Actress - Sally Field
- BD: Kathryn Bigelow.
- Bigelow - Zero Dark Thirty then.
- It's all over for Les Mis! Go home!
- [quote]a film about the single most beloved and revered American figure in history
Didn't they already make that and call it "Mommie Dearest"?
- Wow, the Weinsteins stike out with both "The Master" and "The SIlver Linings Playbook".
- The DDL/Sally Field combo is going to be pretty hard to beat on Oscar night.
- Somebody give R43 a cookie.
- Impressive r43! Who do you call for Actress then?
- I'm SOOOO happy that Bigelow won. I saw an early screening of ZDT and it's a jaw dropping film. I liked both Lincoln and Les Miz too, but ZDT had that It Factor that those other films just didn't.
- "Wow, the Weinsteins stike out with both "The Master" and "The SIlver Linings Playbook".
A lot of people are not so keen about THE MASTER, and SILVER LININGS PLAYBOOK falls apart in the 2nd half - I've read some not-so-good reviews of it.
Weinstein will campaign his way to some nominations, but that'll be the extent of it. As the NYT stated today, this is the year the studios will deliver the good for the bulk of the Oscars.
- It's pretty much all over a week from Thursday.
Wed., National Board of Review
Sunday, LA (and Boston)
Wed., SAG
Thurs., GGs
- ZDT. Best Picture.
- Best Film: ZERO DARK THIRTY
- BEST PICTURE - ZERO DARK THIRTY!
- Has anyone checked on the Les Miz thread? I hope they are taking the news well...
- Well I didn't get that one arf
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- R43, what film has Nene Leakes been in?
- R60 You just KNOW there's a sex tape out there.
- Fantine sure has a lot to cry about now.
- Do you hear the people sing? I can't.
- Gold Derby doesn't even have Bigelow as one of their top 5, and doesn't even acknowledge Weisz.
- Sally fucking Field will not be winning another Oscar any time soon. Meryl fucking Streep just won her third, after years of clawing at it - they aren't going to toss it at Gidget who's been running on fumes since Steel Magnolias.
- Feinberg had her on his list from the start.
- R66 But she doesn't even appear on the linear graphs that tracks TEN other potential nominees.
- That's your problem, R65. Guess you shouldn't watch on Oscar night, then.
- Well she will now, R67. That site it a bunch of hacks who don't make films, aren't real critics, don't vote and generally go buy what "seems" like oscar bait.
- I expect the National Board of Review, to be announced Wed. will go to:
Argo, Riva, Day-Lewis, Hathaway, Hoffman and Affleck.
I also expect that there may not be any clear front runner in any major category with one exception: Day-Lewis.
- The NYFCC is indicative of.. not much. The only real guide are the Globes.
- [quote]The only real guide are the Globes.
Hahahahahaha!
Oscar Winner Madonna!
Oscar Winner Eddie Murphy!
They call Picture 55% of the time and director 60%. They're only high percentages are Best Actor and Actress because each gets 2 winners at the Globes.
- Well, when the NYFCC went for Bigelow and Hurt Locker in 2009, the NBR when for Up In The Air. So maybe Silver Linings Playbook will do well on Wednesday?
- R70, do you *really* think Riva will get a win from critics (maybe) or even a nomination? There's a lot of perhaps untested love for Michael Haneke's Amour in the media but I just can't see this one being much of a crowd pleaser, especially if you've already had to deal with end of life issues. I, honestly, do not understand for whom the film is for. It's not even as grueling as the real thing (nowhere near) and is hardly entertaining. I think all of the love for Amour is going to quietly disappear during awards season. For what it is, it's just been way over hyped.
- R67, Rachel Weisz was in at No. 12 at Gold Derby with 100/1 chance of winning.
- Vulture agrees.
http://www.vulture.com/2012/12/the-best-tv-movie-and-theater-acting-of-the-year.html
- I haven't seen Amour, but I have no doubt that Riva has a very good - if not a locked - chance of getting an oscar nomination.
But here I was speaking of who will win the NBR award. As far as the subject of Amour being too heavy, let's look no further than who won best actress from NBR last year. Tilda Swinton for We Need to Talk About Kevin; so clearly the graveness of Amour is not necessarily an impediment to Riva winning (for that matter Weisz or Cotillard could win, and The Deep Blue Sea and Rust and Bone are not exactly laugh riots!!!!).
Also, it may be that AMPAS will decide to nominate both Riva and Wallice, thereby making history for having the oldest and youngest nominees for best actress ever in the same year.
Anything can happen; or so it now seems; let's just hope that sense of no foregone conclusions continues through the season; otherwise it becomes a deadly bore to tune in Oscar night and see only annointed victors.
- The little black girl is definitely getting nominated, whether she deserved it or not.
- Previous New York Film Critics Circle Award Winners
2011 Brad Pitt Moneyball
2010 Annette Bening The Kids Are All Right
2005 Heath Ledger Brokeback Mountain
2009 Meryl Streep Julie & Julia
2004 Paul Giamatti Sideways
2008 Sally Hawkins Happy-Go-Lucky
2002 Daniel Day-Lewis Gangs of New York
2007 Julie Christie Away from Her
and so on and so on......
- r79.....you are just skipping all the awards that were the same as the Oscar.
- "...acted by the most gifted male actor alive."
Oh stop it. There is no such person as "the most gifted male actor alive."
A lot of what DDL does here is no more impressive than what his co-star David Strathairn did as Edward R. Morrow. DDL's only real advantage is that LINCOLN gives us more of the private man.
- THEY REALLY DON'T LIKE ANNE HATHAWAY, THEY REALLY DON'T LIKE ANNE HATHAWAY!!
- Well, they got Heath Ledger right.
- Thank god the Oscar Primaries have begun so we have something to care about again.
- [quote]are just skipping all the awards that were the same as the Oscar.
Sure, that's the point, 85% WRONG
2000 Laura Linney You Can Count On Me
2001 Sissy Spacek In the Bedroom
2002 Diane Lane Unfaithful
2003 Hope Davis American Splendor
2004 Imelda Staunton Vera Drake
- It looks like they make better choices than the Oscars, that's for sure.
- When are they going to announce what Les Mis won? It has been a while since the last tweet.
- The International Press Academy Satellite Awards Nominates 10 Films for Best Motion Picture
No Sally Field!
Amy Adams The Master The Weinstein Co.
Helene Florent Café De Flore Adopt Films
Anne Hathaway Les Misérables Universal
Helen Hunt The Sessions Fox Searchlight Pictures
Judi Dench Skyfall Columbia Pictures
Samantha Barks Les Miserables Universal
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/satellite-awards-nominates-10-films-396865
- [quote]Sure, that's the point, 85% WRONG
How can it be wrong? They are awarding who they think will win not predicting the Oscars.
NY Film Critics Awards are usually (to me) the best award givers. They picks are usually interesting (look it Weisz.) LA Critics awards are interesting too but sometimes a little off beat and obscure. National Board of Review is the worst...they just vote Clooney, Clooney, Clooney so he comes to the dinner.
- Don't they list runners up in NY?
- R88 Why would anyone nominate Sally Field for Best Motion Picture?
- r88's posts isn't good news for Hathaway....Samantha Barks could pull some votes away from toothy Anne.
- R90, they make the voting in the final round public. It will be on IMDb eventually, if it isn't published tom'w.
I like the NYFCC, they feel the most prestigious, but I also like the LA critics. They're mavericks. They awarded Brazil Best Picture.
- Anne did not get a majority on the 1st ballot and her support waned on the 2nd ballot, when each voter can submit up to three choices (1st Choice = 3 pts., 2nd Choice = 2 pts., etc.) By the 3rd ballot you can't add any new names. To win you have to not only get the most points but you also have to appear on more than half the ballots.
- How did you find that out r94? Is there a site that details the voting?
- How did McBongo get in? Are any of his films award worthy?... Didn't see Bernie.
- There's some info from a post by J. Hoberman about how it went today...
http://blogs.artinfo.com/moviejournal/2012/12/03/life-in-wartime-nyfcc-garlands-zero-dark-thirty-lincoln/
- ...and then there's the group's by-laws here.
McBongo had some of the strongest support and won on the 2nd ballot.
http://www.nyfcc.com/nyfcc-bylaws/
- [quote]Sigh, I showed my pussy for nothing by: Helen Hunt
Just like when we were married.
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- [uote]Sure, that's the point, 85% WRONG
Only wrong in that some here think it's a prediction of The Oscars.
- Here's the inside story on the voting -
(n.b. Anne Hathaway came in a close second to Sally Field):
http://blogs.artinfo.com/moviejournal/2012/12/03/life-in-wartime-nyfcc-garlands-zero-dark-thirty-lincoln/
- Wow Spielberg wasn't really in contention for Director. ws that? Does it confirm whats been long said about the NY-LA split, with Spielberg seen as being firmly in the LA camp and Woody Allen-Scorcese as "NY guys".
And Jack Black made the ballot rounds for Bernie - what's the word on this performance and picture haven't heard much about it but am intrigued.
- [quote]Wow Spielberg wasn't really in contention for Director. ws that? Does it confirm whats been long said about the NY-LA split, with Spielberg seen as being firmly in the LA camp and Woody Allen-Scorcese as "NY guys".
I think that may just be specific to a NY bias against Spielberg and not necessarily LA...Bigelow and PT Anderson are both LA filmmakers.
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- [quote]Bigelow wins Director.
Didn't she just win last year for another war picture, The Hurt Locker?
Les Miserables was certainly robbed,
- I think Weisz will certainly win (or at least be nominated for) the BAFTA for Best Actress but she'll need a Golden Globe and/or SAG nomination if she's to be in the running for an Oscar nom.
- I don't think Weisz is eligible for the BAFTA. That film was a 2011 release in the UK...I think she'd have been eligible last year. (don't quote me though, not sure.)
- [quote]I don't think Weisz is eligible for the BAFTA. That film was a 2011 release in the UK...I think she'd have been eligible last year. (don't quote me though, not sure.)
You're right. I looked up the film and it was released in the fall of 2011 in the UK. Rachel Weisz was nominated for some minor awards but not at the BAFTAs.
Unless the NYFCC award increases her visibility and snags her a Golden Globe I think her chances of an Oscar nom are very slim. Jennifer Lawrence is still the front runner.
- r105, the Hurt Locker was three seasons ago. Last year The Artist won. Before that, it was The King's Speech.
You're out of it, aren't you?
- Yeah, R101? That was already posted at R97. And it doesn't say Anne was a "close" second, it says Anne was the "initial front runner." According to the by-laws, since Anne didn't win on the first ballot but was described as the "initial front runner," at best she had the majority of votes, with each member restricted to one vote, but not 50% of the vote. In the second round, voting opens up to three nominations, from which point support for Anne ebbed away from her.
The voting pattern here is significant in that it suggests more people do not want Anne Hathaway to win an Oscar than people who do want her to win an Oscar.
- Given critics don't vote for the Oscar, it suggests absolutely nothing, R110. Let's wait and see what happens at the SAG Awards before inscribing Sally's name on the Oscar.
- I think the Hollywood Foreign Press will support the Weisz nomination given she is a former GG winner and there will be 10 actress nominations. She might even win the GG, since Lawrence will be in another category.
- San Jose is going to be the largest city in the USA to ban foam food boxes.
California rocks.
- The interesting thing about the International Press Academy Satellite nominations at R88, is that even though LES MIZ got a ton of performance and design nominations, Tom Hooper failed to get nominated for best director. I'm getting the feeling that the industry is tiring of Hooper and his look-at-me faux artsiness.
A semi-related question: Has a film ever won best picture at the Oscars without even scoring a best director nomination?
- Wings, Grand Hotel, and Driving Miss Daisy all won Best Picture without the director being nominated. I think Hooper will probably be nominated, though I wish they would go with someone else. He basically won a couple of years ago for a TV movie and that should be award enough, especially when they made Scorsese wait a 100 years and lose to one actor playing director after another.
I think it would be pretty damn surprising if Sally Field won. That would mean two of the acting categories would be won by three time winners, and the academy also gave Streep her third last year. They usually like to spread awards around a little and not give too many to the same person, unless it's Edith Head. Geez, Spielberg would also be in line for his third, if they decided to go all in for Lincoln. That's a lot of potential repetition for a show that is already boring as hell.
- Spielberg has never won at NYFCC. He even lost for Schindler's List (Jane Campion won instead for The Piano), but he's won twice at the National Society of Film Critics, another NYC based critics group with many of the same members, and a reputation for being the most highbrow of the major awards. It's a little bizarre.
- [quote]Has a film ever won best picture at the Oscars without even scoring a best director nomination?
Only three films have won Best Picture without their directors being nominated "Wings" 1927, "Grand Hotel" 1932, and Driving Miss Daisy 1989.
- Sally Field is a hack and a bitch.
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- Les Miserables and Anne Hathaway were majorly robbed!!
- And only Grand Hotel is still worth watching. How the hell did "Driving Miss Daisy" win anything? The movie is better known as a punchline now.
- R120? You're just stupid.
- Sally Field has got the momentum right now and she's heading the conversation.
Anne hopes to change that today. We'll see.
- Is this the Oscar? No? Then it DOESN'T MATTER.
Only the Academy Award counts for anything.
- Does Sally have any explicit sex scenes with Daniel Day Lewis in LINCOLN? Does she have any nude scenes? That might entice the Academy voters to vote overwhelmingly for her.
- Yes, Sally and Daniel host a White House orgy in which they swap spouses with Mr. and Mrs. Jefferson Davis (played by Sally and Daniel in dual roles).
- Yeah, Jennifer Lawrence is the front runner, but there are still 4 more spots. La Weisz could easily score a nomination. She's definitely campaigning in LA.
- [quote]Yes, Sally and Daniel host a White House orgy in which they swap spouses with Mr. and Mrs. Jefferson Davis (played by Sally and Daniel in dual roles).
Does the film address the gay rumors about Lincoln?
- People in the industry like Rachel Weisz. She could definitely pull a nomination, if not a statuette.
I think Lawrence might run out of steam a bit by Oscar night, especially if SLP under performs at the box office. She's so young and already has other opportunities for Oscars - giving it to Lawrence this year would be a bit like giving it to Goldie Hawn for Cactus Flower. It's a bit light.
National Board of Review announcing within the hour...
- No, R124, not as much as if they were playing The Obamas.
- The five best actress nominees will be:
Emmanuelle Riva, Marion Cotillard, Jennifer Lawrence, Rachel Weisz, Quenwhatever Wallis.
Naomi Watts, Mirren, Knightley will not get in.
Watts will be nominated in 2014 for the Diana pic, but will lose to Streep in Osage County.
Feel free to bump this in 2013 and 2014.
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- Don't feed the troll.
- Feed me.
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- [quote]Streep in Osage County.
Please, unless it's a whole new script, there is nothing in Osange for her to win an Oscar with. It's a Lifetime movie.
- r133, as you surely know, Streep elevates the material she stars in.
The Iron Lady was a so-so film that came with a masterful performance. Nobody remembers the film itself, except her work in it. She owned that role, and she will own Osage County as well.
Oh, and thanks for feeding me.
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- Who is your second favorite actress Streep troll, living or dead?
- r133 & r134, what are you TALKING ABOUT? August Osage County is a Pulitzer Prize winning play. If you don't know what you're saying then stfu.
- Not that I give a rat's ass about OSAGE, but it's one of those things that works best on the stage, where the archetypal seems important and metaphors abound like faeries in the English glade, blah blah blah...
Pressed into a realistic medium like film, it will lose its power and not stand up to scrutiny. Like MARVIN'S ROOM and PRELUDE TO A KISS and countless others before it.
- r137, Meryl will see to it that it works.
r135: I love Louise Fletcher in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Yes, I know, she had no career after that. But one of the best performances of all time, male or female.
I love Liv Ullmann, Ingrid Thulin and Bibi Andersson. But then who doesn't?
Isabelle Huppert - she plays the same character all the time, but I'm not holding that against her. She's terrific within her limitations. A true artist... so fearless.
Isabelle Adjani - the exact same thing.
I love Glenn Close, Tilda Swinton, Emma Thompson, Vanessa Redgrave, Glenda Jackson, Gena Rowlands, Ingrid Bergman, Bette Davis, Dietrich, Crawford, Judy Davis, Naomi Watts, Angela Bassett, Juliette Binoche, Cotillard, Blanchett, Penelope Cruz, Catherine Deneuve, Jeanne Moreau, Miou-Miou, and Sandrine Bonnaire.
I loved Virna Lisi in La Reine Margot! Still holds up really well.
Fernanda Montenegro in Central Station will always remain a fave.
My most recent love is for Kirsten Dunst in Melancholia. Easily one of the best performances I've ever seen.
And none of these actresses is in Meryl's league. But that's beside the point.
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- Streep Troll- How could you leave Chastain off your list for nominees? She will definitely be nominated.
- I suppose you're right, r139. Forgot about her.
She is so... bland.
If we need to make room for her, Weisz may have to go.
The other four nominees are not going anywhere, for various reasons.
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- Forgot to say: I also love Romy Schneider, but only her work from the 70s.
She was a major star in France & Germany, and should have been as big a name as Deneuve was in the States. She died early, and it never happened.
Lots of terrific films from the 70s.
So, after Streep my faves are Schneider, Huppert, Adjani, Ullmann and Thulin. And Fletcher, in that one role.
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- Meryl loon, when was the last time you were gainfully employed.
[quote]Emmanuelle Riva, Marion Cotillard, Jennifer Lawrence, Rachel Weisz, Quenwhatever Wallis.
Yes just like Vanessa Redgrave was going to be a nominee last year and this year right.
[quote]I love Liv Ullmann, Ingrid Thulin and Bibi Andersson. But then who doesn't?
I doubt you have seen a Bibi Andersson film, Meryl loon. On one of the other threads you didn't even know how to spell her name.
How long did it take you to copy and paste all of those names?
- r142, I've even seen all their films in Swedish.
Because I'm half Swedish!
Let that one marinate in your rotten brain for a while.
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- Streep troll, you usually annoy me, but I loved that you dissed that horrible child from Beasts of the Southern Shaky Handheld Camera Operated By A Moron Who Was Clearly Drunk Throughout Production.
But regarding Chastain, I think it'll be Cotillard who gets the snub while Weisz gets in.
Chastain
Lawrence
Riva
Wallis
Weisz
And I'm not totally buying this Jennifer Lawrence front-runner status. I'd say it would be a three-way race between Lawrence, Chastain and Weisz.