Sylvia Sidney could out-act both of them. Her performances have aged well because she's a much more naturalistic actor. Strange that a career that spanned 70 years (without scandal or tell-all bios from disgruntled children) is almost all but forgotten.
Blasphemer! 'Without scandal or tell-all bios,' Darling, what are you saying? Have you lost your Boy-lovin' mind? THIS is why Sylvia fell off the radar. Unless, of course, you're referring to "The Women..."
SS was a great actress, though I don't know that I would say she could outact BD at her best. Crawford, yes, they were not in the same league. Sidney managed to keep her dignity and craft longer than Davis--she was still moving in "An Early Frost" and funny in "Beetlejuice."
Well, i'll tell you why she is forgotten.
She didn't date, fight, or sleep with enough people, i mean popular, famous people.
Mama Carlson! IMDB says she only did one episode of WKRP whereas I recall her having been in several. Love her!!!
However, i must say that this is not of course the right way of evaluation.
To be forgotten, it doesn't mean that you hadn't been good enough or exquisite enough.
It's just that time is relentless. It's unavoidable some names to be in the shadow and some facts to be forgotten
There is not room for all names and actions to be in the spotlight.
Nonetheless, if you care enough and seek about something or someone, you will find out more than the rest.
[quote]Fifty years after the fact, (Budd) Schulberg still writes with tremendous bitterness of his father's affair with Sylvia Sidney, an affair that he says caused irreparable damage to his parents' marriage. He remembers, as a teen-ager, going to Miss Sidney's house and demanding that his father come home. He also remembers watching Miss Sidney in the movie version of Theodore Dreiser's ''An American Tragedy'' and thoroughly savoring the scene in which she drowns.
I thought she was heartbreaking in Dead End. Managed to have a nice career later in life (an oscar nom for Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams).
She HATED Tatum O'Neal and told everyone who would listen when the two vied for an Oscar in 1972.
I love Sylvia Sidney, too, but I'm not sure if there's a single film that she appeared in that is admired as a classic today, in spite of her great performances in them.
Well, maybe Dead End but that seems to be more fondly remembered for the advent of The Dead End Kids.
Is An American Tragedy available on DVD or ever seen on TCM? The male lead in that version, Phillips Holmes, who plays the Monty Clift role, was quite the looker and apparently gay acording to some sources.
r4, she was replaced by an actress who very strongly resembled her. I remember being happy to see SS in the show, but was then surprised to see how quickly she was gone.
'Sabotage' and 'Fury' are her most famous movies.
She was the leading lady in them, the first was directed by Sir Alfred Hitchcock and the second one by prodigious Fritz Lang.
Bitch on wheels apparently, at least when she'd been reduced to "touring".
What might you mean Desiree?
A penny for your thoughts...
Here's one such quote:
[quote] I too saw Sylvia Sidney in Auntie Mame at the old Lambervtille Music Circus. Apparently, she was a real bitch all the way down and every year thereafter, at the end of each season, the company awarded a "Sylvia Sidney" award for the person who was most difficult to deal with.
[quote]Mama Carlson! IMDB says she only did one episode of WKRP whereas I recall her having been in several. Love her!!!
Sylvia Sidney played Mamma Carlson in one episode. After that, the role was played by Carol Bruce who was taller and younger and had blond hair. Sidney was white-haired by the time she played that part.
People still watch [italic]Beetlejuice[/italic], though it might not count as a classic.
She was a good actress but she was went out of her way to create trouble. I knew someone who thought of her as a friend. He was a working actor involved with a banker. She seemed to become friends with both of them, and she poisoned the banker's mind so they broke up. After that, she dropped the banker.
R16 She looked like a younger Bette Davis in this photo. Maybe they were sisters or cousins and they didn't know that.
Maybe R20. But Bette was a total WASP and Sylvia was of Eastern European Jewish extraction. Her original surname was Kosow.
I'll always love her smoking through the trach hole in her neck in Beetlejuice!!!!!!!
She was Bennett Cerf's first wife but they divorced because he was jealous of her fame.
I started the "Hidden Gems" thread with her movie "Street Scene". She was terrific in a terrific movie.
Whole movie at link.
Hey, she made seven appearances on "Fantasy Island." If that's not a classic, I don't know what is!
I worked with her. She was a perfectionist.Though known for her serious roles, she was a remarkable at comedy as well.
R26 was she a pleasant person?
She smoked like a motherfucking freight train.
Bette smoked a lot too. One of their similarities i guess.
Strange - I recently watched her in "Snowbeast" and thought as I watched, "Gawd, where do I know her from!" I then went to her IMDB page.
She was wondeful to work with. I was very young and she was always good to me.I loved watching her from the wings when I wasn't on stage. Her acting was so honest and natural, even in roles like Auntie Mame and Mrs. Hardcastle. I probably would not say she was overly pleasant, but not unpleaseant either.
Sylvia Sidney was a very touching actress. She could be raw and dignified at the same time. Watch her in Street Scene and, of course, Dead End. I can't think of anyone like her, though she bears certain similarities -- to me, at least -- with Margaret Sullavan.
It's weird to me that people lump Bette Davis, one of the most original, immediate, and powerful actresses, with Joan Crawford, who, after, say, Grand Hotel or Rain, never delivered another fresh, interesting performance. It's hard to imagine two actresses so different in their approach and effect. They both played a number of bitches, but are any of Crawford's distinctive and enjoyable, except as camp? She's certainly never moving. Crystal, for instance, is one of the duller characters in The Women, though I love how she delivers the line "If you throw a lamp chop in the oven, what's to stop it from getting done?" I guess she had her moments, but not many.
On her arrival in Pasadena after a three-month vacation on the East Coast, Sylvia Sidney is greeted by fans. April, 1937