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Too bad they didn't make the movie.
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Too bad they didn't make the movie.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | June 23, 2018 6:25 PM |
wouldn't Liza have been Roxie?
by Anonymous | reply 1 | November 30, 2012 12:45 AM |
The blond is Roxie, brunette is Velma
Goldie & Liza were rumored to star in the film version for years, but nothing happened.
This routine was done (on this special) as an unofficial screen test for the both of them to get one of the studios interested.
But it didn't work.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | November 30, 2012 12:48 AM |
but Liza played Roxie on Broadway
by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 30, 2012 12:49 AM |
Goldie Hawn was attached to the project for Roxie for a long time. She was going to produce, and after Pvt Benjamin her box office was higher than Liza.
Goldie wanted Liza for Velma, and she agreed.
But for some reason the project never took off with those two in the lead.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | November 30, 2012 1:01 AM |
The special aired in Feb. 1980 and Private Benjamin opened in October 1980...so r4 may be a little off on facts...plus didn't Chita wear a blonde wig in the OBC?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 30, 2012 1:06 AM |
R5 read link below
Goldie was always set to play Roxie.
At one point Madonna was attached to play Velma opposite Goldie as ROXIE
by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 30, 2012 1:10 AM |
[quote]Goldie was always set to play Roxie.
I read the link quick I admit....but where does it say that....I'm sure when Liza and Scorsese were doing it Liza would have been Roxie.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | November 30, 2012 1:19 AM |
This was very close to a go. Bob Fosse was set to direct.
Kate Hudson would have been better than Renee.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 30, 2012 1:19 AM |
Fosse was never attached to a Minnelli film version. Right before his death he wanted to do a screen version starring Madonna but it obviously never happened.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 30, 2012 2:32 AM |
"All That Cocaine!"
by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 30, 2012 2:36 AM |
[quote]At one point Madonna was attached to play Velma opposite Goldie as ROXIE
Would have been another cinematic triumph, no doubt.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 30, 2012 2:37 AM |
A Bob Fosse film of Chicago with Goldie and Liza might have been sensational....If only, huh?
by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 30, 2012 2:41 AM |
Why, these two could've made the film a box office hit, Best Picture winner and won one of them an Oscar... Oh, wait....
by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 30, 2012 2:48 AM |
They were both a good ten years off their game by 1980.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 30, 2012 2:54 AM |
Christ Lucy looked sharper in her close-ups in "Mame" than that print. It looks like it was shot off a TV with a camcorder. Too bad Goldie gave up dancing after leaving the chorus and started acting. She was very good.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 30, 2012 2:54 AM |
Can you imagine some stars of today doing it, like Hathaway and Seyfried? It would be devoid of any style or sex appeal.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 30, 2012 2:56 AM |
I only hear Liza's voice.
Wow, she was great.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 30, 2012 3:04 AM |
Things are meant to happen or not, but not in Hollywood castings and for sure not in musical adaptations.
Liza would have been great - back then, when Bob Fosse was alive and all hips were in the joint.
I wish it could look a bit more like this, so much of Chicago is about the dancing, no?
Bebe Nuwerth and Karen Ziemba, one night only.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 30, 2012 3:19 AM |
That old lady is no Judy Garland, r18,
by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 30, 2012 3:23 AM |
They should reprise their roles! Just set it in a nursing home...
by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 30, 2012 3:35 AM |
R19
I don't understand your post. Did you watch the link? Could Judy Garland dance Fosse ?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 30, 2012 3:41 AM |
I remember that from we it was on. Imhad forgotten just how good Goldie was (is). She could really hold her own against a Liza in her prime. At some point,there was tally of her doing the movie with Bette Midler.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | November 30, 2012 3:42 AM |
I just don't approve of Judy drag which has nothing to do with 'Chicago'. Is there any footage of performers in their prime from the '70s?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 30, 2012 3:49 AM |
R23
I don't know much about Judy drag. But I do have the performance you are asking for. What do you know about dance and the specifics of Bob Fosse choreography?
He used classically trained dancers, but put them in contorted positions - hallmarks like fluid arms with flexed ankles and wrists, small isolations, pigeon toes and pelvic tilts.... loose and tense body postures at once. There are vaudeville and burlesque references in a very sophisticated choreography. Props, hats, and gloves. Seedy sex. More.
This is Gwen Verdon and Chita Rivera, the original stars performing and promoting the original Broadway show. Some of the moves of this Chicago number are meant to be out of sync! They are "seedy non pro" characters, supposed to be mimicking each other. This also adds to the effect when they do dance in time with each other. This is repeated through all of Fosse's work. You won't find it better than this performance on You Tube. The dance walk in Honey Doll Rag is perfect and watch the nuances all through.
Yes the costumes are ugly, they are supposed to be tacky. I never said that Liza was the best at anything, but she was a trained dancer, and she danced Fosse quite well for a singer. They collaborated many times.
Think I am going to get an a-hole response, but I tried to be informative. I am a musician, not a dancer, but I have been around this show, a lot.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | November 30, 2012 4:28 AM |
[18]: It always pained me to see Karen carry Bebe off stage on her back. Why did she ever agree to that?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 30, 2012 4:37 AM |
R25
Hell if I know, but I now have some ideas.
Karen is bigger and stronger, a better dancer with better legs but less the Chicago "Star" than Bebe?
Bebe is an Ass. They thought is was cute. Better to show off the thong.? Never really thought about it.
I am sure that Chita never jumped on Gwen's back.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | November 30, 2012 6:48 AM |
Karen took her dirty tit bags out for Playboy
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 30, 2012 6:50 AM |
Liza is riveting in the above clip. Her talent, presence and star power completely overwhelm Goldie Hawn. I can't take my eyes off her.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 30, 2012 7:01 AM |
The choreography is horrible in the OP's link.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 30, 2012 7:51 AM |
One night only!
by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 30, 2012 1:44 PM |
[quote] The choreography is horrible
The choreographer is Ron Field who did the choreography for Once Upon a Mattress, Baryshnikov on Broadway, and won Tony Awards for choreography for Applause and the original Cabaret.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 30, 2012 1:52 PM |
I thought Liza used Ronnie Lewishhhhhhhh was he choreographer. They would have been great....thought Renee and Catherine were fantastic...great movie!
by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 30, 2012 2:08 PM |
Liza was box office poison after her three huge flops ("Lucky Lady", "Matter of Time" and "New York, New York."). Even with Goldie, there was no chance she could star in another big budget movie, and a musical no less Fosse was coming off his huge flop "Star 80". Liza should have taken up Allan Carr and did Rizzo in "Grease."
by Anonymous | reply 33 | November 30, 2012 2:24 PM |
[quote] Even with Goldie, there was no chance she could star in another big budget movie,
Maybe that is why the movie stalled in development for the longest time.
Goldie name was still attached to the project as late as 1996. Then she was 'let go' by the studios because she was too old by then to play Roxie.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | November 30, 2012 2:28 PM |
My favorite part of that special was Liza doing "Bette Davis Eyes" with Charles Pierce and Jim Bailey in Bette Davis drag as her backup dancers
"She'sh precocioush and she knowsh jusht what it takesh to make a pro blush
She'sh got Greta Garbo shtand-off shighsh
She'sh got Bette Davish eyesh
She'sh got Bette Davish eyesh"
by Anonymous | reply 35 | November 30, 2012 3:35 PM |
They would have been great in those parts.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | December 28, 2012 12:17 AM |
WOW!
by Anonymous | reply 37 | July 22, 2014 1:22 PM |
WHy do they look so rotund in OP's link?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | July 22, 2014 1:44 PM |
agree, R28. Liza totally eclipses Goldie.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | July 22, 2014 1:52 PM |
The choreo in the OP is pretty bad. It's trying to be Fosse without understanding what Fosse is. Also Liza completely carries Goldie. I love clips from old variety shows, though, because of the Inevitable White Male Dancer with an Afro Who Is Just a Half-beat Behind Everyone Else.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | July 22, 2014 2:23 PM |
Audio from the 1975 Chicago of Liza as Roxie, where she was filling in for Gwen Verdon for a month:
by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 23, 2018 5:22 PM |
Thanks for including that clip R24. I absolutely fucking love Gwen Verdon and I don't know why. I mean (for some reason) I love her voice and it is, of course, a treat to see her dance Fosse (brilliant man) but I'm not even sure what I've seen Gwen in. Most likely "Damn Yankees" although I can't say I'm a real fan of the film. It must just be a collection of bits and pieces I've watched over the years.
I bet she was a hoot and I hope she was nice but it don't matter - she's fantastically marvelous to me.
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