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Goldie Hawn as Roxie Hart & Liza Minnelli as Velma Kelly is CHICAGO! All That Jazz!

See link below!

Too bad they didn't make the movie.

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by Anonymousreply 42June 23, 2018 6:25 PM

wouldn't Liza have been Roxie?

by Anonymousreply 1November 30, 2012 12:45 AM

The blond is Roxie, brunette is Velma

Goldie & Liza were rumored to star in the film version for years, but nothing happened.

This routine was done (on this special) as an unofficial screen test for the both of them to get one of the studios interested.

But it didn't work.

by Anonymousreply 2November 30, 2012 12:48 AM

but Liza played Roxie on Broadway

by Anonymousreply 3November 30, 2012 12:49 AM

Goldie Hawn was attached to the project for Roxie for a long time. She was going to produce, and after Pvt Benjamin her box office was higher than Liza.

Goldie wanted Liza for Velma, and she agreed.

But for some reason the project never took off with those two in the lead.

by Anonymousreply 4November 30, 2012 1:01 AM

The special aired in Feb. 1980 and Private Benjamin opened in October 1980...so r4 may be a little off on facts...plus didn't Chita wear a blonde wig in the OBC?

by Anonymousreply 5November 30, 2012 1:06 AM

R5 read link below

Goldie was always set to play Roxie.

At one point Madonna was attached to play Velma opposite Goldie as ROXIE

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by Anonymousreply 6November 30, 2012 1:10 AM

[quote]Goldie was always set to play Roxie.

I read the link quick I admit....but where does it say that....I'm sure when Liza and Scorsese were doing it Liza would have been Roxie.

by Anonymousreply 7November 30, 2012 1:19 AM

This was very close to a go. Bob Fosse was set to direct.

Kate Hudson would have been better than Renee.

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by Anonymousreply 8November 30, 2012 1:19 AM

Fosse was never attached to a Minnelli film version. Right before his death he wanted to do a screen version starring Madonna but it obviously never happened.

by Anonymousreply 9November 30, 2012 2:32 AM

"All That Cocaine!"

by Anonymousreply 10November 30, 2012 2:36 AM

[quote]At one point Madonna was attached to play Velma opposite Goldie as ROXIE

Would have been another cinematic triumph, no doubt.

by Anonymousreply 11November 30, 2012 2:37 AM

A Bob Fosse film of Chicago with Goldie and Liza might have been sensational....If only, huh?

by Anonymousreply 12November 30, 2012 2:41 AM

Why, these two could've made the film a box office hit, Best Picture winner and won one of them an Oscar... Oh, wait....

by Anonymousreply 13November 30, 2012 2:48 AM

They were both a good ten years off their game by 1980.

by Anonymousreply 14November 30, 2012 2:54 AM

Christ Lucy looked sharper in her close-ups in "Mame" than that print. It looks like it was shot off a TV with a camcorder. Too bad Goldie gave up dancing after leaving the chorus and started acting. She was very good.

by Anonymousreply 15November 30, 2012 2:54 AM

Can you imagine some stars of today doing it, like Hathaway and Seyfried? It would be devoid of any style or sex appeal.

by Anonymousreply 16November 30, 2012 2:56 AM

I only hear Liza's voice.

Wow, she was great.

by Anonymousreply 17November 30, 2012 3:04 AM

Things are meant to happen or not, but not in Hollywood castings and for sure not in musical adaptations.

Liza would have been great - back then, when Bob Fosse was alive and all hips were in the joint.

I wish it could look a bit more like this, so much of Chicago is about the dancing, no?

Bebe Nuwerth and Karen Ziemba, one night only.

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by Anonymousreply 18November 30, 2012 3:19 AM

That old lady is no Judy Garland, r18,

by Anonymousreply 19November 30, 2012 3:23 AM

They should reprise their roles! Just set it in a nursing home...

by Anonymousreply 20November 30, 2012 3:35 AM

R19

I don't understand your post. Did you watch the link? Could Judy Garland dance Fosse ?

by Anonymousreply 21November 30, 2012 3:41 AM

I remember that from we it was on. Imhad forgotten just how good Goldie was (is). She could really hold her own against a Liza in her prime. At some point,there was tally of her doing the movie with Bette Midler.

by Anonymousreply 22November 30, 2012 3:42 AM

I just don't approve of Judy drag which has nothing to do with 'Chicago'. Is there any footage of performers in their prime from the '70s?

by Anonymousreply 23November 30, 2012 3:49 AM

R23

I don't know much about Judy drag. But I do have the performance you are asking for. What do you know about dance and the specifics of Bob Fosse choreography?

He used classically trained dancers, but put them in contorted positions - hallmarks like fluid arms with flexed ankles and wrists, small isolations, pigeon toes and pelvic tilts.... loose and tense body postures at once. There are vaudeville and burlesque references in a very sophisticated choreography. Props, hats, and gloves. Seedy sex. More.

This is Gwen Verdon and Chita Rivera, the original stars performing and promoting the original Broadway show. Some of the moves of this Chicago number are meant to be out of sync! They are "seedy non pro" characters, supposed to be mimicking each other. This also adds to the effect when they do dance in time with each other. This is repeated through all of Fosse's work. You won't find it better than this performance on You Tube. The dance walk in Honey Doll Rag is perfect and watch the nuances all through.

Yes the costumes are ugly, they are supposed to be tacky. I never said that Liza was the best at anything, but she was a trained dancer, and she danced Fosse quite well for a singer. They collaborated many times.

Think I am going to get an a-hole response, but I tried to be informative. I am a musician, not a dancer, but I have been around this show, a lot.

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by Anonymousreply 24November 30, 2012 4:28 AM

[18]: It always pained me to see Karen carry Bebe off stage on her back. Why did she ever agree to that?

by Anonymousreply 25November 30, 2012 4:37 AM

R25

Hell if I know, but I now have some ideas.

Karen is bigger and stronger, a better dancer with better legs but less the Chicago "Star" than Bebe?

Bebe is an Ass. They thought is was cute. Better to show off the thong.? Never really thought about it.

I am sure that Chita never jumped on Gwen's back.

by Anonymousreply 26November 30, 2012 6:48 AM

Karen took her dirty tit bags out for Playboy

by Anonymousreply 27November 30, 2012 6:50 AM

Liza is riveting in the above clip. Her talent, presence and star power completely overwhelm Goldie Hawn. I can't take my eyes off her.

by Anonymousreply 28November 30, 2012 7:01 AM

The choreography is horrible in the OP's link.

by Anonymousreply 29November 30, 2012 7:51 AM

One night only!

by Anonymousreply 30November 30, 2012 1:44 PM

[quote] The choreography is horrible

The choreographer is Ron Field who did the choreography for Once Upon a Mattress, Baryshnikov on Broadway, and won Tony Awards for choreography for Applause and the original Cabaret.

by Anonymousreply 31November 30, 2012 1:52 PM

I thought Liza used Ronnie Lewishhhhhhhh was he choreographer. They would have been great....thought Renee and Catherine were fantastic...great movie!

by Anonymousreply 32November 30, 2012 2:08 PM

Liza was box office poison after her three huge flops ("Lucky Lady", "Matter of Time" and "New York, New York."). Even with Goldie, there was no chance she could star in another big budget movie, and a musical no less Fosse was coming off his huge flop "Star 80". Liza should have taken up Allan Carr and did Rizzo in "Grease."

by Anonymousreply 33November 30, 2012 2:24 PM

[quote] Even with Goldie, there was no chance she could star in another big budget movie,

Maybe that is why the movie stalled in development for the longest time.

Goldie name was still attached to the project as late as 1996. Then she was 'let go' by the studios because she was too old by then to play Roxie.

by Anonymousreply 34November 30, 2012 2:28 PM

My favorite part of that special was Liza doing "Bette Davis Eyes" with Charles Pierce and Jim Bailey in Bette Davis drag as her backup dancers

"She'sh precocioush and she knowsh jusht what it takesh to make a pro blush

She'sh got Greta Garbo shtand-off shighsh

She'sh got Bette Davish eyesh

She'sh got Bette Davish eyesh"

by Anonymousreply 35November 30, 2012 3:35 PM

They would have been great in those parts.

by Anonymousreply 36December 28, 2012 12:17 AM

WOW!

by Anonymousreply 37July 22, 2014 1:22 PM

WHy do they look so rotund in OP's link?

by Anonymousreply 38July 22, 2014 1:44 PM

agree, R28. Liza totally eclipses Goldie.

by Anonymousreply 39July 22, 2014 1:52 PM

The choreo in the OP is pretty bad. It's trying to be Fosse without understanding what Fosse is. Also Liza completely carries Goldie. I love clips from old variety shows, though, because of the Inevitable White Male Dancer with an Afro Who Is Just a Half-beat Behind Everyone Else.

by Anonymousreply 40July 22, 2014 2:23 PM

Audio from the 1975 Chicago of Liza as Roxie, where she was filling in for Gwen Verdon for a month:

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by Anonymousreply 41June 23, 2018 5:22 PM

Thanks for including that clip R24. I absolutely fucking love Gwen Verdon and I don't know why. I mean (for some reason) I love her voice and it is, of course, a treat to see her dance Fosse (brilliant man) but I'm not even sure what I've seen Gwen in. Most likely "Damn Yankees" although I can't say I'm a real fan of the film. It must just be a collection of bits and pieces I've watched over the years.

I bet she was a hoot and I hope she was nice but it don't matter - she's fantastically marvelous to me.

by Anonymousreply 42June 23, 2018 6:25 PM
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