- Tony Dow was a lickable little thing from head to toe including that six-pack in between.
- Who's that woman? And was that picture taken at Friend's Beach?
- Did Wally ever have any interest in girls or go out on a date in Leave It to Beaver? I can't remember a single episode that dealt with Wally and The Opposite Sex.
- Beaver was so lucky to share a bedroom with Wally.
- Gosh Beav, I think a whole generation of men found out they were, you know, gay, just by looking at me on television!
I know Wally. You were always the pretty one.
- I would watch LITB re-runs exclusively for Wally's perfectly tight and compact ass. He wore his khaki pants beautifully, and his ass was so plump in them.
I have to admit that I really had a thing for Wally.
Eddie Haskell wasn't so bad himself. I'd love to see the "lost footage" of Wally and Eddie doing some youthful experimentation!
- Love the beach umbrella behind him.
- I pounded my meat RAW watching and thinking about Wally
- I assure you I am ALL WOMAN, R3! But I can't say the same for Mary Ellen Rogers.
- R3, there was at least one episode that focused on Wally's interest in girls. Having drawn straws for blind dates, he agreed to swap with someone (probably Eddie). He and the date met somewhere before the actual evening, and had a pleasant conversation, during which she remained seated. He was fairly smitten, until it was time to go; she rose, and was several inches taller than he.
Ward and June discussed the matter, June pointing out that in her day, the girl would just have worn her hair down and eschewed high heels, but she predicted that contemporary girls were too sophisticated for such simple solutions. But, heavens to Betsy! That's exactly what the girl did! And Wally had a wonderful time. Everything turned out just swell.
I watched the episode during a 9 AM rerun in NYC, back before I began kindergarten. I am astonished that I remember so many details.
- Beaver had a thing for Miss Landers, but she was onto him.
- [quote] But, heavens to Betsy! That's exactly what the girl did! And Wally had a wonderful time. Everything turned out just swell.
You left out the part where she sucked Wally's cock for 15 minutes, and then he ended up fucking her pussy raw in the back seat of his car, until he came and shot his load all over her face!
- Violet Rutherford drinks gutter water!
- Ward has a 10-inch beer can cock, and I can hardly accommodate the whole thing. Heavens to Mary!
- What a wonderful description R10! I remember that episode now.
The BF and I bought a house from the Beav back in the 70s. He and his wife were into real estate back then. He said Wally was a really nice guy -- just like he was on TV -- and was still in the business. But behind the scenes. That is NOT where he belonged. He and Don Grady from My Three Sons were my idols. And maybe Luke Halpin from Flipper.
- R14 So it's really true-- Ward really WAS a little rough on the Beaver?
- My partner and I watched every episode of the show in the last six months, thanks to Antenna TV. It's timed to our afternoon coffee break.
And Dow/Wally always was such a peach. He seemed to have been picked because he was a butch-but-understanding older type for the Beave. And he went from little butch boy to mini hunk to teen angel to young man with a six pack over the course of the show. His pug nose was even the focus of an episode, where he worried about it and tried things to lengthen it.
It always was obvious that as an actor he didn't know what to do with his hands, so he was told to put them into his pockets. Every episode has him with hands in his pants pockets, pulling the trousers forward across his ass. Hilarious. And in one scene he's exercising on his bed, lying on his back and throwing his legs over his head, interrupting to say things to Beaver. When they let him wear a tight tee shirt you could tell he was thrilled to show himself off, because he always worked out.
It seems difficult to believe that the directors didn't do some of the seemingly innocent staging without knowing how it looked.
Yeah, I sound like a perve, but when I was growing up watching it in reruns Wally seemed like an adult to me and the Beaver was older than I was. Wally seemed like a glimpse of how older boys did things - in a "wholesome" household.
And here's the shot of Tony (same day he posed with scuba gear - he must have had a photo shoot going) that is now infamous for seeming creepy. Don't know what to do with your hands, Wally?
- [quote]Beaver had a thing for Miss Landers, but she was onto him.
Just saw the episode where Ward & June invite Miss Landers over for a backyard BBQ & she wears sandals. Beaver & his pals were shocked to find that she had toes!
- Poor Miss Landers died at 49 from lung cancer.
- Fun times when Wally and Eddie spit-roasted me...
- Ward, you were a little too rough on the Beaver last night.
June, walking bowlegged that morning
- He was a cutie for the times
- Hey Ward, how about another pearl necklace tonight? You know it's my favorite.
- Wally cut or uncut? hairy hole?
- Dumb dumpy lumpy....future bear hotness
- [quote]When they let him wear a tight tee shirt you could tell he was thrilled to show himself off, because he always worked out.
Tony Dow was a competitive swimmer and a Junior Olympic diving champion.
- Thanks for posting that R19, Miss Landers credits brought back a lot of memories.
- R27 She really was perfectly cast as Miss Landers. Sweet competent, caring, but innocently sexy. I would've had crush on her, too.
- Ditto, R19. I never remember that Miss Landers was also Ruthie in Desk Set, and I'm always pleasantly surprised to re-learn that fact every couple of years or so.
- I recall one episode where Wally has a date with a classy chick and he takes her to an upscale restaurant where the menu is priced at about EIGHT dollars per person...Wally doesn't have enough money but Ward calls the Maitre'd (an old friend) and arranges to have Wally sign the ticket...it impresses the chick.
- diver=yummy :)
- Damn, he looks good, and has a really long neck!
- This will come out weird, but his body looks so modern. I'm used to seeing hot men from that era with a different build.
- I can name you at least 20 episodes of the top of my head where Wally went out on dates and liked girls. From season 1 to the last season.
The best episodes were with Judy in them.
- R34 Obviously he was overcompensating.
- Never saw any of those pictures before! Hot stuff indeed.
- Excellent nipple placement.
It has to be said.
- Thanks for the pics. He's hot as hell DAMN.
- I didn't know who he was until I Googled him. He is/was sexy.
- was Wally's cock really thick? uncut? hairy bush? hairy hole?
- Unfortunately, the years since have been unkind.
- Strange that he never made a transition into films, even those Beach Blanket Bingo trifles from the 1960s. Or a sitcom of his own. Wally comes to NYC or LA to make it on his own?
He must have had it with show biz.
- Tony Dow is a well-known sculptor now. He ended up being an artsy type.
- Wally had a lot of girlfriends on LITB. You couldn't have watched to much.
- Wally under the docks.
- Young Wally with unusually well-developed abs for his age.
- R45 - He looks like he's waiting for his next trick. He found a better after school job than boxing groceries at the local market!
June So Proud Cleaver
- The years are always unkind.
Anyway, I think a lot of people don't like LITB or find it funny because they let the mannerisms, decor, fashions or other things that can make something dated bother them. If you just read some of the lines from LITB you can appreciate the writing more. I love LITB but I seem to laugh harder when I just read the jokes.
Here are some snippets of dialogue. Read some of it. They're pretty funny. Without the pear necklace politeness of June you can see how sarcastic and biting some of it was. In writing some of it is Rosanne worthy.
- Ward: [about Wally and Beaver] Dear, did you know they were planning on raising chinchillas?
June: Yes, they told me yesterday.
Ward: Why didn't you say something to me about it?
June: Because Beaver promised me the first coat free.
- The show focused more and more on Wally in the final seasons and some of the more memorable episodes involve Wally, Eddie and Lumpy. (The prank with Lumpy's tire axel and Lumpy yelling, "Daddy!" was priceless, especially since Fred Rutherford hated his son.)
There's one episode where Wally likes an "older" girl who seemss to be "loose." And the episode with a very young, very cute Ryan O'Neal as a newly married man whose frustrating marriage teaches Wally a lesson.
- Fred Rutherford: Have to keep a firm hand on boys nowadays, Ward. My Clarence answered me back the other day. I smacked him right in the mouth. None of this psychology for me.
- I was watching some old episodes over the weekend and noticed what a dry sense of humor June had. Nothing mean-spirited, but she knew just what to say when Ward needed to be deflated a little bit from his pontificartions. The couple really had a good chemistry and played well off of each other.
The last couple of years probably focused more on Wally because Jerry Mathers was getting to be more awkward of an actor losing some of the naturalness that a lot of child actors lose when they try to "act" more as they get older.
- Here's a good cat and dog one for DL:
Wally: [referring to Gilbert's dog] Hey, Beaver, Archie really went home, huh?
Beaver: Sure, I told him, and he went. You know, it's a lot easier talking to dogs than it is to cats.
Ward: Cats are very smart, though, Beaver. It's just that when you call someone Bootsy-Wootsy, he's inclined to be a little difficult.
- [Wally and Eddie enter the Cleaver house and see no one around]
Edward 'Eddie' Haskell: Hey Wally, nobody's home. Let's call up some girls and pretend we're talent scouts.
[June walks out from the den to greet the boys]
June Cleaver: Hello, Eddie.
Edward 'Eddie' Haskell: Oh. Hi, Mrs. Cleaver. Gee Mrs. Cleaver, your hair looks real pretty today.
June Cleaver: Well, you should know Eddie, being a talent scout.
- EDDIE: I would have stopped by sooner, but I had to go see my girl.
JUNE: Oh, you have a girl Eddie?
EDDIE: Oh yes ma'am. She goes away to boarding school. My father says that's a pretty good indication she has money.
JUNE: Oh, is that so?
EDDIE: Yes ma'am. My father says it doesn't pay to waste time with people who don't count.
JUNE: Well it was nice of you to stop by anyway, Eddie.
- Wally and Beav's dad had a nice basket.
- Sexy Ward.
- Richard Deacon, the great character actor who played Fred Rutherford (as well as Mel Cooley on The Dick Van Dyke Show) was as gay as a Christmas goose.
- LOL, r5!
- 'Leave It To Beaver' was before my time, but I cannot even tell you how many gay men from the baby boom generation I have known over the years who have said Tony Dow used to drive them wild in their adolescent/teen years. He's definitely a 'thing' with that generation.
I agree with the poster who said that Dow was very 'modern' looking. His looks and body would have made him a teen idol even today.
- Isn't that Erin Moran seated next to Dow in the link at r41?
As much as I enjoyed him in LITB, Dow looks like Meg Whitman in the pic with Joanie Cunningham.
- Tony Dow was who I wanted to be when I was growing up. Unfortunately, I turned out to be Brenda Lee.
- As much as I love LITB and Tony Dow I always thought Don Grady was hotter. He looked sexier. He seemed like he'd be a hot lay. A borderline rapist.
- Young Wally lifting it.
- Teen Wally showing off his arms.
- I met Don Grady when he was touring in the 1970s in Pippin. He was sexy, laid-back, straight and smoked pot with us.
- Tony Dow starred in an afternoon soap aimed at teenagers in 1965. Never Too Young aired afternoons on ABC for a year or two. Lassie's Tommy Rettig also starred.
- Young Tony looked tight. REAL tight!
- "Never Too Young"? Isn't that the title of Kevin Clash's autobiography?
- That was something else R68!!!
I love the ending. Surprisingly homoerotic.
- Thanks for those quotes from LITB guys. I never realized how funny some of it really was. I guess kids don't get it.
- Love LITB on Antenaa. Really laugh out loud funny and better than anytging on today. Love how Wally and The Beaver always think Ward is "hollering" at them and he never raises his voice. There was one episode where they were babysitting a girl named Puddin that kept telling the boys she wanted "to see Maryjane" that had me crying with laughter.
- Ward did yell in the first season, back when he mostly wore sweatshirts and jeans. In fact, he was a real grouch back then.
- I loved how Eddie Haskell was always trying to schmooze up to Ward and June but they had his number and realized what a shit he was. I always felt sorry for Lumpy Rutherford though. Even though he could a bit of a bully, it was harsh to see in a sitcom how his father treated him. There's one episode where Lumpy and his father are thrilled to learn he received a football scholarship, only to discover later that the scholarship is rescinded because Lumpy failed a subject in school. Fred Rutherford's reaction is "but what about me? I told all my friends that my stupid son is going to college on a football scholarship!"
- Beavers creepy friends are the best supporting characters. Loved fat little Larry.
- That shirtless photo of HUgh Beaumont isn't from LITB is it??
If so, what episode, please!
- I think if Tony Dow got a decent haircut and lost just 15 lbs. he'd still be a handsome hot older man today.
- I personally liked David Nelson more. I thought he was dreamy.
- June Cleaver: Eddie, would you care to stay for dinner? We're having roast beef.
Eddie Haskell: No thank you, Mrs. Cleaver. I really must be getting home. We're having squab this evening.
- Larry Mondello's Mother... Things would be all right if my daughter could just find a husband. Then we'd always have a man around to give it to Larry when his father's out of town.
- Ward Cleaver: Well, you boys are very quiet tonight. What are you thinking about?
"Beaver" Cleaver: I was just thinkin' what I'd do if I was a pig eatin' peoples ribs.
June Cleaver: Beaver, please.
WALLY: [reading an invitation, while in the kitchen] 'You are invited to a party at school for Penny. Three-thirty, Friday. Cake and ice cream will be served.' Signed - 'Mrs. Henry Woods.' You might as well throw this one away, Mom.
JUNE CLEAVER: Now, why wouldn't he want to go to a party at school for Penny Woods?
WALLY: Well, in the first place - 'cause she's a girl. In the second place - 'cause Beaver says she's just about the creepiest girl in the whole school.
JUNE CLEAVER: Oh, I think that's ridiculous. I wanted him to go because I think this is going to be a sweet little affair.
WALLY: Okay, Mom. But I think it's going to be one of those 'sweet little affairs' Dad's gonna have to beat him into going to.
- I really like the chemistry between Wally and June. They seemed to actually like and understand each other whereas Beaver and Ward were merely tolerated.
- LOL it is funnier when you read the dialogue.
Don't forget June could speak jive.
- R77, that photo of Ward is from a detective movie he made in the 50s. He was in a lot of film noir flicks in the 40s and 50s, including some good ones like Blue Dahlia and The Seventh Victim. Here's another one.
- Expertly done Jive Talk by Mrs. June Cleaver.
Who was the folksinging nun who tried to cheer up Linda Blair but kept knocking out her IV tubes instead?
- Not to derai this thread but I was wondering if someone might, kindly post a new thread for me. It was just something I thought up, to mich time on my hands.
Celebrity's secret children
I've always heard this person or that one is paying off secret baby momma's...
Ryan Phillipee has a biracial child?
Janet Jackson has a by now adult child stashed away?
Brad Pitt impregnated some model?
What do you guys? Which Celebritys have Little bambinos tucked away? What rumors have you heard?
Thanks to anyone who might be so kind as to post this.
- Wasn't that Helen Reddy, R87? Or maybe I'm thinking of the actual Airport movie that Airplane parodied.
There's a sale at Penney's!
- r87, I believe the person singing and playing guitar was stewardess Lorna Patterson (in place of Helen Reddy as the nun), the Linda Blair role was played by Jill Whelen ("The Love Boat"), and the mother was played by Joyce Bulifant.
- SCTV presents the Leave It To Beaver 25th Anniversary Party
- Lorna Patterson played the Goldie Hawn role in the TV version of "Pvt. Benjamin." And also opposite gay Tony Randall in the original TV movie of "Love, Sidney." (Replaced by Swoosie Kurtz in the series.)
- I wanted to drink Wally's boy batter.
- Tks R91. I'm getting it all mixed up. I'm just glad the Hare Krishna don't hang around the airports anymore.
- Thank you r92. That was a funny skit and it led me to my favorite SCTV skit, Half Wits. haven't seen that in about 20 years.
- "Maybe thirty-five years in the slammer will teach the Beaver something."
- I watched Leave It to Beaver just to look at Tony Dow's ass! Nice!
- Am I the ONLY guy who watched "Never Too Young?" Yes, elder gay (58). I watched the program when I was in 6th grade. I sure knew my religion when I was young. Watching that clip brought back memories.
- Beaver hump
- Leave it to Beaver remains my all time favorite show. Fond memories of the gang from Mayfield, USA.
- LITB never received any attention when it aired. Its time slot was 7:30. I have heard so many people make fun of the clothes June and Ward wore cleaning/ sitting around the house. This was a show that looked at life from the eyes of a little boy. In 1957, women wore dresses and cooked and cleaned, and fathers wore suits and worked in a vague office somewhere. Great dialog. I read that the main cast got along very well.
- I've always wanted a cross-over featuring Wally Cleaver and Bud Anderson.
- You can stream the entire series on Netflix.
And yeah. It was amazing how many different ways the writers could put Bud Anderson in a tight, nipple showing t-shirt.
- Most sitcoms from the 1950s pictured mothers like June Cleaver, in dresses and heels and pearls doing the housework. She wasn't unique.
Alice Kramden on The Honeymooners was the big exception. Audrey Meadows was totally believable as a working class wife in Brooklyn.
But then again, Lucy Ricardo wore pedal pushers and flats and even smoked! So maybe the distinction was sitcom moms who lived in NYC were allowed to be more realistic.
- One odd think I noticed about these old shows is that they could smoke but you rarely saw them drinking, such as Lucy, and it seems like people back then were big on cocktails. On tv they were always drinking coffee. You never saw Ricky and Fred talking about going down to the bar to watch the fights and knock back a few beers.
- LITB parody
- [quote]Tony Dow was who I wanted to be when I was growing up. Unfortunately, I turned out to be Brenda Lee.
- Anyone have an easy rule for the usage of "who" or "whom" in a sentence?
I was always taught to turn the sentence around and putting in pronouns. If the answer is "he" it's a soft vowel sound at the end ("who") and if it's "him" it's a hard vowel at the end ("whom")
"I was sitting with Tom, whom I had just met."
WHOM had I just met? I had just met HIM.
"I went with Harry, who had a nice car."
WHO had a nice car? HE did.
I don't know if it works every time but it hasn't failed me yet.
- I'm also an easy lay...LOL
- R110 OK, but how are you on "lie" vs. "lay"?
- Ha! That's a tough one R111 /Trolldar. (tsk tsk) I always get it wrong. What's the rule?
- Oh, wait, 111. It was in the same string. Never mind.
- You or the object ( dog, cat, etc) lie as in " lie down." "Lay" demands a direct object, as in "Lay the tape dispenser on the desk."
- Things lay, people lie.
- Thanks to you bitches I watched a marathon of LITB last night on Netflix. I'd forgotten how funny it actually was and I even saw June with pants on twice. I always remembered her with the little shirtwaist dresses and pearls. Do they ever show Ward and June's bedroom? I never realized Ward was so goodlooking when I was young and he's definitely got a hot bod for an old tv dad.
Wally was indeed a cutie. Beaver was cute when he was little but grew up goofy looking and walked like a corn cob was up his ass.
Will finish more episodes tonight.
- Yes, you see the parents bedroom in the episode where Beaver gets a monkey. He gets sick and Beaver wakes his parents in the middle of the night. The fact that I know this disturbs me.
- Who were the first TV couple not to have twin beds?
- Mary Kay and Johnny R118. Never heard of it but I googled your question.
- [quote]I've always wanted a cross-over featuring Wally Cleaver and Bud Anderson.
Because of a mix-up at the scouts jamboree, Wally and Bud are forced to share a tent. Things get worse when they realize half of their gear is missing and have to share a sleeping bag at night.
- Saw one episode last night titled "Tenting Tonight". Wally and the Beav sleep out in a tent.
Made me giggle a little.
- Enough hijacking by non-grammarians.
They only "lay" here we're interested in is Wally.
- Brothers in skin.
- Follow Wally's bouncing balls.
- Wally lifting and making his muscles big.
- Wally showing Eddie how to get it smooth.
- In the school locker room.
Coach: OK Cleaver, who were you throwing towels at?
Wally: Well... nobody, I guess.
Coach: Oh, just having a gay time by yourself huh?
- Wally and the Beave playing with frogs.
- Wally trying to make his muscle bigger.
- Wally's great grandfather showing a little denim grip.
- Tony Dow is now a respected sculptor.
- I'd still suck the socks offa him in a minute.
- Funny dialogue...Larry and Beaver are talking about Wally and his date to a dance.
Larry Mondello: Before my brother married his wife she was always asking for flowers and candy and movies and taxi cabs and stuff.
Beaver: Does he still buy her stuff now?
Larry: Nah, now he just tells her to shut up.
- R87, the nun with the guitar, who later serenaded the jive talkers with RESPECT, was played by Maureen McGovern. The stewardess who borrowed it to sing to Jill Whelan was Lorna Patterson, who is married to Michael Lembeck, Julie's husband on "One Day At A Time." Don't know what he looks like now, but he used to be smokin' hot.
- Well, we all get old, r134.
- [quote]I've always wanted a cross-over featuring Wally Cleaver and Bud Anderson.
We got close to it on today's FKB rerun, which featured an uncredited Frank Bank, AKA Clarence "Lumpy" Rutherford.
- R136, did he mercilessly pick on Kitten until she ran home crying? I still recall some DLer describing Lauren Chapin as looking like a shaved monkey.
- Rest assured, Tony Dow doesn't look like that now.
- Tony Dow was the hottest thing whn I was growing up If you look at his early pictures he was Hoooot things change as did ii and poor Walley
- Wally was the hotest thing to walk in the 60s god damn was he hot
- Wally syre was hot as hell when he was young and full of testosterone
- Someone put Never Too Young up on YouTube
- Never Too Young, really sucked. The acting in the commercials was better.
- OP = The hand of Elmo