I want to cry every time the mother appears onscreen.
"I'm married, I'm BEAUTIFUL!!!!!"
Me too, r9. The mother is so sad, what happens to her makes me cry every time I watch this movie.
On a lighter note, the South African swimmer Muriel "marries" was SMOKING HOT!
Muriel's homely sister ("you're terrible Muriel") is a riot.
Here are pictures of that swimmer. His name is Daniel Lapaine. He's perfection.
How weird, I also watched this on tv last night and I'm in Europe.
The best scene is when Muriel and Rhonda perform "waterloo" as the two bimbos are rolling around on the floor.
I also laughed when Muriel/Mariel squealed like a dolphin during her wedding ceremony.
You're all a bunch of cocksuckers!
The truth? I tell the truth, too.
Nichole's having an affair with Chook. Muriel saw them fucking in the laundry room on your wedding day.
Stick your drink up your ass, Tania, I would rather swallow razor blades than drink with you.
Oh, and I'm not alone. I'm with Muriel.
I keep confusing it with that other Australian movie about a talking pig which came out around the same time.
It's on Netflix r17
So depressing but so good.
Hmm, my ealier post has gone missing and other replies in this thread seem strange.
Anyway, oddly I also watched this on tv last night even though I'm in Europe.
A funny moment is when Muriel/Mariel makes dolphin noices during her wedding ceremony.
But the highlight of the movie is early on when Muriel and Rhonda perform "Waterloo" while the bimbos are wrestling each other on the ground.
Here's the Waterloo scene. You can see Muriel get more and more into it during the song:
Why is the lead bimbo bitch at Rhonda's house in the last scene? How did she become Rhonda's friend?
I absolutely HATED this INCREDIBLY depressing film!
It's a small town and they all pretend to be your friends.
Cancer? Oh my God! I am gonna go bald and have to eat macrobiotic food!
For the longest time I didn't realize that Muriel's asshole dad was also the cuddly Bob in [italic]Priscilla.[/italic]
The bean bag chair scene made ne LOL.
The guy who plays "Brice", Muriel's date seems very familiar. Did he travel to Hollywood as well?
r29: he actually shot those movies back-to-back. 1994 was a big year for Bill Hunter, Australian film, and ABBA.
IMDB claims Bill Hunter actually worked on both projects simultaneously. Don't know how he would have managed it, though.
[quote]Meh. I thought it was going to be a sunny little picture about a chubby girl who loved her ABBA music. Most depressing flick this side of "The Descendents".
Same here. I don't get the love for this film. The way people talk about it and quote it, you'd think it was something hilarious. I watched it for the first time last year and was expecting something along the lines of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" mixed with "Sabrina" about a frumpy girl who makes good, gets a makeover, and finally meets her prince charming, with lots of hilarity and chaos. At least that's what the trailer made it out to be.
Another movie I don't get is "Four Weddings and a Funeral." I just don't think Brits and Aussies know how to make a good rom-com. They always have to make it depressing in the end.
"The cancer wasn't caused by....you know...uh...sex?"
Rhonda,, being spit roasted be 2 hunky American sailors
You sound completely clueless, R34. It's not a romcom. It's the opposite, because it's not mindless entertainment. It's about a naive girl finally discovering she doesn't need some guy to be a valuable human being.If you're a straight frau you probably don't get that though. It's good because it's so funny and so painful at the same time.
By the way, "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" is awful.
R36 -- I remember it being marketed as a rom-com when it was released in the US -- in the same way as that Jennifer Aniston dog movie was a few years back.
People went int both movies expecting light hearted fare and emerged traumatized.
Thanks R36, I never understood why I love this movie so much but you have it explained it perfectly to me. It's a classic. Too bad PJ Hogan didn't really have much to show for it after the success of this.
Fuck you, R36! I realized AFTER I watched it that it wasn't a rom-com, but like R37 pointed out, that's how it was marketed in the US, about an ugly duckling who becomes a swan.
I am so glad R34 is not a part of my life. Holy shit, what a shallow, soulless bitch.
When I saw it for the first time, I had the same expectations as R34, but the tragi-comedy of it all made me love it that much more.
Jeanie Drynan as Betty was heartbreaking.
Toni Collettes follow up collaboration with director pj hogan, "Mental" just came out and it's wonderful fun!
Bill Hunter (Muriel's father) died not too long ago.
Muriel's Wedding was the first time I ever saw Toni Collette and Rachel Griffiths and I immediately loved them both.
You guys wouldn't like me much either, cuz I think [R34] is pretty much spot on.
You and 34 should stick with Meg Ryan movies, then.
I barely know who Meg Ryan is? AbFab is about as mean-spirited as I can deal with as "comedy" I'm afraid.
I love this movie - I remember when it came out, I had a friend who inSISted that it needed to be remade with "bigger stars (Ricki Lake and Juliette Lewis were his choices. And now, ha ha, Colette and Griffiths ARE bigger stars than his choices!
That big, hunky, shorts wearing cab driver who drives them out of Porpoise Spit at the end always gets my attention.
The ever widening smile on Muriel's face after they yell good bye is amazing.
It's been a while since I've seen it, but I remembering having the impression Muriel's wedding was a bearding thing.
There was no indication the swimmer was gay, IIRC, but I wondered why this gorgeous athlete was set up with such an awkward, naive girl.
The putative reason may have been immigration issues, but she seemed like such an unlikely candidate. Didn't he give her mercy fuck at the end?
Is the groom at the beginning named Chuck or Chook?
He was a South African who couldn't swim for South Africa, and his parents were willing to pay an Australian woman to marry him so he could be on the Australian Olympic team. He hadn't liked the other options, and they were out of time, so the swimming coach made the decision.
After the marriage, she decided to leave and he said something like "I don't love you, either, but it's not so bad having you around." She still left, wanting to not be always lying about everything.
Don't think it was a gay thing.
I always thought this was some laugh out loud comedy. It's not?
Well, [R56], if you find cancer, suicide, and verbal abuse a laff riot, it is.
"I, I know I'm not normal, but I'm trying to change. I'm trying to become more like you, more of a..."
"It's too late."
"But I can CHANGE!!!!"
"You'll still be you."
"Muriel, you've got to find friends on your own level. Like I found Chook. He's up on my level. Marrying him was the happiest day of my life. I LOVE him so much. That BASTARD! I'll show him. I'll go on this holiday and sleep with a THOSUAND men."
"I'm not nothing."
"Muriel, can't you think of anyone but yourself? Tania's upset."
"I'm not NOTHING!!!!"
"Well, nobody said that!"
"Muriel, you're embarrassing us *AGAIN*!!!!!!!"
"Verbal abuse". Someone be a dear and get R57 her smelling salts.
R34 is the blonde bimbo in middle in the pic R53 posted: "How dare you call me a cocksucker? I'm MARRIED!!!"
I agree that this is leaps and bounds beyond anything else PJ Hogan's done but I do think My Best Friend's Wedding is pretty great, as far as Julia Roberts movies go.
Some people LOVE this movie because they see themseles in Muriel.
Some people HATE this movie because they see themseles in Muriel.
R55 yes, I need to see it again. I was probably projecting...
Still, he was hot. Couldn't his coach found a cute Australian?
I don't see myself in Muriel and I love it.
It's funny. Every time I come back to this thread I keep expecting to hear an Abba song, but I don't. It's like all of your lives are as good as an Abba song.
I thought the guy who played Muriel's father was especially good in Priscilla Queen of the Desert.
Doesn't Muriel's shy date - the one from the beanbag scene - show up at her wedding and look sad? Are there any earlier signs that he likes Muriel or is in love with her?
I always put this on when I'm in the mood for a comedy having orgotten how bloody depressing it is.
One of my favorite movies of all time and Muriel is a character you just want to cheer on. Constantly belittled by her parents, friends, being told she's worthless and useless...I tear up at the end when she decides to live her life the way she wants to. It's an uplifting film.
R31 Brice was played by Matt Day. See his IMDB link below.
I don't think he's ever made it to Hollywood. I don't know why - maybe just not brawny enough, or maybe he wasn't interested. He does British TV shows, and Australian TV and movies.
"Same here. I don't get the love for this film. The way people talk about it and quote it, you'd think it was something hilarious. I watched it for the first time last year and was expecting something along the lines of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" mixed with "Sabrina" about a frumpy girl who makes good, gets a makeover, and finally meets her prince charming, with lots of hilarity and chaos. At least that's what the trailer made it out to be.
Another movie I don't get is "Four Weddings and a Funeral." I just don't think Brits and Aussies know how to make a good rom-com. They always have to make it depressing in the end."
Hmm ... maybe as you only like very formulaic films, or you don't get irony. Probably both!
I swear that her mother is one of the most tragic figures I've ever seen in a movie. Why didn't Muriel at least have her mother with her on her wedding day and seated at the front as she should have been? Muriel completely ignored her. That part really bothered me as it showed a total lack of respect for her mother. Where the heck were her siblings too?
Mariel was starting a new life. There was no room for Muriel or her family at the wedding.
Muriel is also not playing with a full deck, R71. Sweet girl, but clearly on the dumb side.
The mom, Muriel and the sister all came off a slightly developmentally...slow.
r74, I thought they were just . . . Australian.
[quote]The mom, Muriel and the sister all came off a slightly developmentally...slow.
Gabby Millgate (Joanie) looked especially "special." I found a picture of her online and was surprised by how normal she looks.
On the contrary R72, Muriel's wedding was all about paying her father back and showing off as a success in front of Porpoise Spit. Her wedding was all about her past, which also shows that to her and to all the other children, the mother was just furniture. They had absorbed their dad's judgement without knowing it.
Yeah, I'm bumping an old thread. Sue me.
So I posted in this thread before as R4, with a mixed review of this movie because it was so depressing.
I watched it again this week for the first time in years - probably in the mid-90s - and I enjoyed much more. As someone mentioned up thread, it was marketed in the U. S. as a cute little film about plain Jane Muriel and how she turns her life around and finds happiness and gets married. I probably rented the video one night when I was down in the dumps, looking for something to cheer me up. Instead I get a film about cancer, paralysis, suicide, adultery, unhappiness, and cunty schoolmates.
While I didn't remember all of those details heading into my second viewing, I remembered the overall tone of the movie. And knowing that going in, I enjoyed it so much more.
And I haven't been able to get Waterloo out of my head all week.
I love that movie and holy shit was that swimmer hot.
HATE that film! Talk about depressing!
The one who played her sister would make Lens Dunham look like a supermodel.
The actor who played Muriel's father -- Bill Hunter -- also played the corrupt dance competition judge in another great Australian movie, "Strictly Ballroom."
An almost perfect film. It is in the second spot for my all time favorites.
The actress who played the mom was just on TCM, playing another put-upon woman, in "Don's Party". TCM has been airing Australian films Fridays this May. Heartbreaking.
Had a huge crush on Matt Day - he was very sexy in "Kiss Or Kill", with Frances O'Connor, and endearingly shlubby in the nore recent "My Year Without Sex"
He was adorkable in "Muriel".
R34 is right about Four Weddings and a Funeral but Muriel's Wedding is great. They hate it because they want to root for Muriel but she's not a good person. She's Damaged Goods and she has to learn how to be good. I don't find that "depressing" at all but somewhat uplifting. The siblings are actually more depressing than the mother, but remember the whole family had been lording it over the people of the town because their dad was a wheel in the political machine, so it's not like they were always just poor nobodies.
"It's MARIEL!!!... I'm a new person"
Before I met you I used to stay in my room all day and listen to ABBA songs. Since I met you I haven't listened to 1 ABBA song because life with you is better than ABBA, it's better than Dancing Queen.
I love, love, LOVE Muriel's Wedding!
"You can't stop progress"! How true for Muriel
I completely see myself as Muriel.
I think many young gay men did. Scheming, pretending you're something you're not, thinking that the right man and a name change would magically fix everything.....yeah.
I know I did r95 My gay friends that weren't raised in a shame based household couldn't identify with the movie at all.
"it's all yours, mate" hahhahahah
R95 & R96, i also think no other fictional character captures me like Muriel does. I never realized it was a widespread thing, although now that I think of it I guess it's an obvious gay archetype.
[quote]My gay friends that weren't
Muriel is one of film's most charming sociopaths ever. Compulsive lying, stealing, superficiality, poor impulse control, conning, stalking, taking on new identities to bolster her own worldview...
And yet she's still adorable in her creepiness. Toni Collette is a fine actress.
It's weird how Americans really don't get this movie.
They're so used to "happy endings" and plotlines that are always neatly tied up.
Life isn't that way, and foreign films are so much more true to life than Hollywood shit.
When you watch Italian, French, Australian, British, German, Spanish, etc., cinema, it's so much more true to life than American movies.
Hollywood is all about the blockbuster and the the "big sell." It's a total fantasyland.
Hollywood doesn't tell the truth anymore.
Hollywood does movies that appeal to every big, fat, ugly Hollywood exec...
That's why Seth Rogen gets cast with the likes of Heigl or Byrne as his love interest.
"Muriel: Because of all the mental things that happened to me. I got shallow. And my physical being could have been improved, as well as my mentality.."
She should have added: "The absolute low point was paying $18 to have a bunch of anonymous cocksuckers call me a 'terrible' and 'cunt'."
So those are Abba songs I hear every time I sign on to Datalounge.
Funnily enough, the swimmer actually married a plain woman in real life. She's a pretty successful actress, though.
We wouldn't want you to spend the entire holiday alone. It's not like in high school where you should feel your not good enough to talk to us.
The truth? I tell the truth too. Nicole's having an affair with Chuck. Muriel saw them fucking in the laundry room on your wedding day.
Stick your drink up your ass, Tania! I'd rather swallow razor blades than have a drink with you.
Oh, by the way... I'm not alone. I'm with Muriel!
One of the best movies of the 20th century.
Toni Collette is priceless in every scene. Watch her face as several emotions subtly are shown as they drive away in the taxi at the end.
BTW, I always love looking at the taxi driver's legs.
The man who played her father was a big Australian star we would know from Priscilla Queen of the Desert and that funny dog show movie.
114 again. sorry I repeated some stuff others said earlier. The phone rang and I didn't read all the posts till just now.
Okay experts, find some pictures of the hunky cab driver and post them! I don't know how to put the pictures on here if I would find them.
[quote] One of the best movies of the 20th century.
[quote] Is Muriel Jewish ?
No, she's Australian.
If I ever do drag, I will take the name of Deidre Chambers, just to have bitches say, "Deidre Chambers! What a coincidence!"
I can't remember how Australians pronounce it - Dee-dra? Der-dree? Der-dra?
Was it "Chuck," but they pronounce it "Chook" down there?
He is credited in the movie's credits as CHOOK. Which apparently is an Aussie name.
Chook, which also means chicken. Doesn't Rhonda refer to him as turkey at one point?
Don't they call a chicken a "chook" there?
Chook hates the Japanese!
Oh, thanks for explaining that because I never got that "turkey" joke before.
I stayed a night in Coolangatta, Queensland because scenes from Muriel's Wedding were shot there (including the taxi drive at the end). The whole Gold Coast has a Porpoise Spit vibe, Noosa is nicer.
"and you... what a bunch of cocksuckers" LOL
It was interesting the way M's face changed from looking sort of...slow to looking normal and aware.
Truly amazing R130
Damn, I always thought his name was "Chalk". Really-learn something new all the time.
Dierdre: I advise women on their lipstick, base and eye liner.
[to Japanese businessmen]
Dierdre: But you should all know about make-up. Your wives must be geishas.
"You're terrible MARIEL!"
I want it on bluray.
You're terrible MARY:ALLs
I too love, love, love Muriel's Wedding.
I would love to see some kind of a sequel only if it is made well.
LOVED Muriels mother, look her up, quite beautiful when she was younger.
A sequel would be great, but I don't know how they would do it.
I wonder if it is just a coincidence that Toni and Matt Day wind up being cast in another project years after MW.
Maybe TPTB were sitting around a big conference table with Toni and they had been having trouble casting the part and Toni yells: "Urethra, I know just the guy for that role, get Matt Day on the phone!"
I was in college when Australian films started arriving -- My Brilliant Career, Gallipoli -- and I was thrilled to have films that told the truth about things, instead of Hollywood magical thinking.
We must be on our fourth or fifth generation of the same old Hollywood tribesmen pushing their same tired visions of utopia (in which they are all king.)
Director PJ Hogan did re-team with Toni Collette a year or so ago to make another movie - it's called Mental, and it's not very good
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