Should CNN Anderson Cooper Take a Pay-Cut For His Low Ratings?
Right now AC360 is third in its time-slot. MSNBC The Ed Show is a solid second to Fox News Bill O'Reilly.
And Anderson Cooper makes $11 million dollars for hosting a show that is third in its time-slot.
New management will be taking over soon, and cost cutting will be taking place.
Shouldn't salary be tied to the ratings?
If so should Anderson Cooper take a pay-cut from his $11 million dollar salary for poor ratings.
He should accept a tax increase or be guillotined.
The subtext of this thread is that OP is mad as hell because pics of AC and Ben at Madonna's Madison Square Garden concert showed up online this morning. OP has been very busy ranting about Anderson's multi million salary ever since because she really needed to vent her anger. Methinks she uses DL as some sort of group therapy to work out her complicated emotional issues with Anderson.
OP, you should have added another option for us to vote on:
"Should OP get a new hobby instead of creating multiple threads focusing on Anderson Cooper's life and career?"
I bet this one would be a solid YES!
The other AC thread is ready for closing so this may be the one to pick up all the Benderfrau attention.
CNN probably won't renew his contract. He'll still have 60 Minutes.
CNN shouldn't renew his contract. They are paying him a shit load of money and he does nothing. His ratings are in the toilet. There is no justification for the amount of money CNN is paying him.
He should be cancelled. I'm sure FOX News will welcome him with open arms.
All those posters who keep predicting that CNN won't renew his contract are being silly. They've been saying this for years, as if it made them feel better to make such predictions, which nevertheless always turn out to be wrong.
What will happen to Ben if AC's salary is cut?
He has a contract.
When it comes time to renegotiate that contract his ratings will come into play, but so will the fact that he is CNN most prominent face.
His ratings reflect not only his dim star power, but also his network's decline.
Ben will have to start escorting again, as his little bar isn't enough to pay off his David Barton dues and recreational drug use.
[quote]What will happen to Ben if AC's salary is cut?
Ben has two successful bars, so I don't see how Anderson's hypothetical salary cut would be of much concern to him. But carry on.
[quote]Ben will have to start escorting again, as his little bar isn't enough to pay off his David Barton dues and recreational drug use
I guess it really makes you feel better to post shit like that. Your life must be pretty empty.
[quote] He has a contract.
Contracts can be broken and are always in the networks favor
Look at Ann Curry.
They could definitely renegotiate and ask him to take a pay-cut. And if he refuses they could let him go, with a severance.
He makes more than Ed Schultz. And he can deliver the ratings. So why not AC?
And before you farus jump in with 'CNN is in decline', AC had free rein with his daytime talk show, and that didn't even get the numbers as well.
There's a fine line between having a sugar daddy and escorting.
[quote]There's a fine line between having a sugar daddy and escorting.
Again, Ben owns two successful bars, he has no need for a sugar daddy.
On the other hand, Cesar could use one.
Ben does now "own" those bars. He is a front man with a small profits interest.
You're always saying that Ben doesn't own his bars and only has a small share in them, but you have no proof of that. For some reason, it makes you feel better to claim that he has no money of his own. Why do you do this, R18? It must really kill you that Anderson is dating Ben, doesn't it?
Actually, Ben and Ac are NOT dating anymore. AC has moved on to Gio Benitez.
AC has a thing for Latin guys.
Wonder if he ever made a pass at Ricky Martin.
AC and Ben's anniversary is coming up (Thanksgiving week). They always travel during that time of year (they went to Cuba in 2011) I wonder where they'll go this time.
[quote] I wonder where they'll go this time.
The lawyers office to discuss 1) settlement 2) gag order
You wish, R23!
Isn't also the 6 month anniversary of the revelation that Ben really is a whore who makes out with guys shamelessly in the park, while his boyfriend is at work paying all the bills?
[quote]All those posters who keep predicting that CNN won't renew his contract are being silly. They've been saying this for years,
Sorry, Jessica Fletcher, but I never said it before today. OTOH, I predicted that his talk show would fail. He's just too bland to bring in a decent size audience.
AC and Ben have been together for 4 years now. And during all those years, we keep getting the same posters predicting all sorts of terrible things (break up, career collapse, settlement, gag order, tell-all book, new bf, etc...) that always turn out to be false. This thread is a perfect example of this.
He seems like a decent guy but his problem is his on-air personality ranges from either robotic and dull to dorky (that laugh sounds horrible, not cute). I can see why his ratings aren't great. Another problem is he's 1 of those overexposed guys who is on too many shows. He's the gay, older Seacrest. Both of them need to be on tv much less.
[quote]Isn't also the 6 month anniversary of the revelation that Ben really is a whore who makes out with guys shamelessly in the park, while his boyfriend is at work paying all the bills?
Yes, as well as the 6-month anniversary of Anderson keeping Ben by his side with nary a qualm.
Maybe this is his way of humiliating Ben, by hooking up with Gio
Maybe AC even arranged the ABC job for Gio
I predict that Anderson and Ben will be together for many years to come, and during those years the same posters that R27 is talking about will keep making the same predictions of imminent break up, relationship on the rocks, multiple new bfs for both AC and Ben, and other assorted tales of disaster that will never come to pass. Meanwhile, pics of AC and Ben together will regularly show up, putting a temporary end to the bullshit rumors while stirring new passion. Over and over and over.
"AC and Ben have been together for 4 years now."
Two middle aged queens and their longest relationship is 4 whole years. And the DL queens are simply amazed and in awe of this.
Sad. Very sad.
For once, I believe something said on an AC thread: the predictions of Nostradamus will be 100% accurate!
[quote]we keep getting the same posters predicting all sorts of terrible things (break up, career collapse, settlement, gag order, tell-all book, new bf, etc...) that [bold]always turn out to be false.[/bold]
Whoa! Is this your way of telling us that the contract for his talk show really has been renewed? Where did you get this inside information? You need to start a "BREAKING NEWS!!!!" thread. You're really bringing us some amazing news, r27.
This entire thread provides a perfect illustration of r32 (AKA Nostradamus)'s predictions.
Anderson is too aloof and cold a personality to reach middle america. He had an opportunity to truly show a new side of himself by going on his show when it started for a new season and explaining to people about his decision in coming out. And explaining about the pictures. Talk to the viewers about his relationship. Instead he hands everyone some trite two sentence "I've always been out privately" excuse and goes back in his shell.
Oprah went through similar shit with the MIAMI VICE guy one summer, being photographed partying with him admist rumors of an affair with him. She went on her season premiere and talked to the audience about exactly what happened, and how the press distorted an innocent story.
Anderson did none of that. He stood by while the press made Ben out to be some lowlife cheater. Then he shows up in public with the guy by his side without a word. Too weird for just about everyone. Then he wants people to spill their guts on his show? Please.
All successful television show talk show hosts treat the viewers like friends. Anderson isn't willing to do that.
[quote]Anderson did none of that. He stood by while the press made Ben out to be some lowlife cheater. Then he shows up in public with the guy by his side without a word. Too weird for just about everyone. Then he wants people to spill their guts on his show? Please.
Nothing that Anderson could do or say would ever satisfy you, r37.
In any case, he doesn't owe you an explanation. His personal life is nobody's business. I had a problem with him not being out in the past, but now that he's no longer in the closet, I don't have any beef with the way he handles being in the public eye. I respect his right to privacy. I like the fact that he's been very open about being gay on his talk show.
Im very concerned that Anderson will no longer be able to afford me!
[quote] he doesn't owe you an explanation. His personal life is nobody's business.
[quote] I like the fact that he's been very open about being gay on his talk show.
Me too. I love how AC keeps reminding his frau audience that he's batting for the other team. He's a lot more outspoken about being gay than Nate Berkus ever was.
"Nothing that Anderson could do or say would ever satisfy you"
Get a life, hon. And stop obsessing over Anderson. You sound like you're on the verge of tears.
R42 sounds so angry, when was the last time she got laid?
At least I had a first time R43.
Your first time sounds like it was the last too, r44. Time to get some pounding action in that dried up old pussy of yours, I'm sure it'll do wonders for your bitter mood.
Look at the fifty year old virgin handing out sex tips. HINT: A right hand and a magazine cutout doesn't qualify as real sex.
AC must be so proud of the fantatics he has here. I just wonder how fat and how mentally underdeveloped they really are.
Let the psychotics continue.....
Once Anderson announced he's gay, I knew his shows would eventually get axed. Happens all the time. We are living in a very disturbing country with multitudes of sick minds who love to discriminate. When these goons see Anderson's face they immediately think "cock sucker" and imagine him being sodomized. And with all the sexually frustrated closeted men watching CNN this is too much to bear!
Poor R46, a lonely heterosexual spinster completely hung up on a gay reporter who keeps reminding his audience how uninterested he is in the other sex... No wonder she's so angry.
Almost everyone in Anderson's viewing audience who was paying attention to gossip sites and tabloids at the time thinks that A. and Ben's relationship is either tres weird or just out of control homosexual sex business as usual.
[quote] out of control homosexual sex business as usual
Spoken like a true homophobic bigot projecting her own bias onto the rest of the world, r49. Why does DL attract such assholes?
I didn't say I thought that, r50.
OP is INSANE, she brings this topic up on EVERY AC thread. No one should be THIS concerned about how much money someone they don't even know makes. R2 and R4 are right. OP knows that she can rely on DLers to pile on and trash AC, so when things aren't going the way she wants in terms of AC and Ben being broken up, she hunts down old threads about AC's ratings or starts one in order to get a bunch of DLers to agree with her and call AC worthless, she knows she can always come here for that and that makes her feel better about the things she can't change about AC's personal life with Ben. Keep in mind that OP is agreeing with herself on the majority of these posts.
Was the guy who was kissing Ben in the park ever identified?
Anderson is a Republican. Fuck him.
Where's the proof of that R54?
R52 is totally right.
[quote]Keep in mind that OP is agreeing with herself on the majority of these posts.
I suspect that too.
Ben is a Democrat, love him!
LEAVE ANDY ALOOOOOOOOOONE!!
R22 I don't know where Ben is going for their anniversary but Andy's in Gaza ATM. Maybe he took Ben with him on assignment.
I doubt Anderson took Ben to Gaza for their anniversary, R58. I realize that Ben has gone with AC on some assignments in the past, but this one seems dangerous, so I don't think he would be coming along. Thanksgiving is not until next week anyway, so maybe they've planned a vacation once Anderson returns from Israel.
I doubt Ben is on assignment there, too risky and I don't think AC would want to put him out there.
R47 totally agree. I knew when he came out that he was in trouble. That's the real reason his show has been canceled. It's not true that the viewing public accepts his lifestyle. But he wants to be a role model for young gays struggling with their sexuality and to stop homophobia. But it hurt his career. I read the homophobic slurs about him on Twitter all the time. It's really sad in the 21st century.
R56 is right.
I think I have a response to the OP now. AC just reported on CNN from Gaza with bombs exploding in the background. Nah. I don't think he's overpaid. I don't see Matt Lauer risking his life in any war zone.
Thank you R63 and it's not as if this is the first time AC has done this kind of reporting before, it's what he's done since the beginning of his career.
Has anyone looked back on the ratings I got in that time slot? Oh, they were higher? Could you say that a little louder, Candy?
Anderson's in Gaza doing something relevant and important and Aaron Brown's got NO career now. Haha, that IS funny.
I hated Aaron Brown. I couldn't stand his smirking while reporting on tragedies like 9/11.
While reporting live from Gaza tonight, a massive explosion could be heard behind Anderson. It was so loud that it made him jump. Armchair critics like OP can snicker all they want, but Anderson goes to pretty dangerous places. It takes real courage to report from such places, so no, I don't think his salary should be cut either.
[quote] I don't see Matt Lauer risking his life in any war zone.
I see Serena Altschul of CBS News, I see Richard Engel of NBC News and I see Christiane Amanpour of ABC News.
Are they paid $11 million dollars?
These are real reporters who are on the ground, working there stories.
They are just parachuted into Gaza to be window dressing.
AC never recovered when he said he was 'scared' during the uprising in Egypt.
Serena Altschul of CBS News, Richard Engel of NBC News and Christiane Amanpour of ABC News are NOT getting $11 million dollars.
So why should AC?
R68 real reporters don't 'Jump'
Sorry it should be
They are just NOT parachuted into Gaza to be window dressing.
Serena Altschul of CBS News, Richard Engel of NBC News and Christiane Amanpour of ABC News all filed news stories for their respective news shows.
What report did AC file
Oh right, he didn't file any report. He is just window dressing in Gaza.
He deserves every penny. You get out there R70 and R71 on that damn roof as a HUGE explosion comes and lets see if YOU don't jump. Real reporters go where the danger is and report. That's what he's doing now.
R72 you are a miserable piece of shit with an ax to grind. I wish you were in Gaza getting your ass blown up.
Serena Altschul of CBS News, Richard Engel of NBC News and Christiane Amanpour of ABC News are all out there.
So why aren't they getting $11 million dollars?
Can we be real here for a moment? Anderson Cooper is not a journalist. He didn't pay his dues. He didn't work his way up. He didn't have to do shit jobs and shit stories.
All of those things inform most journalists with any kind of gravitas, which Anderson lacks. I really don't have anything against the guy, but he is a celebrity, not a newsman. He would be more suited to Entertainment Tonight or Extra. When he's reporting on Nene, he's believable. When he's talking Benghazi, he sounds uniformed and douchey.
Ask their agents R75, but meanwhile you need to worry about your OWN life and money don't you think?
Anderson still kept his cool after that bomb went off.
Experience counts, he's reported from war zones for his entire career and is still doing it. Celebrities don't go to Gaza and risk their lives to report.
Oh please first you are saying why isn't Matt Lauer in Gaza? And AC is worth every penny.
And then when it is pointed out that Christiane Amanpour is in Gaze and makes less than AC, you say 'ask their agents'.
You are terrible at spinning this.
Christiane Amanpour has LOADS more foreign reporting experience and she isn't even paid 1/10th AC is being paid.
AC is NOT worth $11 million and Christiane Amanpour is, strictly based on her experience.
Try spinning that AC fan
Why don't you petition their networks for them to get more money since it's so important to you R79? YOU are terrible at hiding that ax you have to grind against AC. If they were making the same amount of money as he is, you'd still be whining about him. Admit it. You have a problem with HIM and there's nothing he could do to change it.
R70 Matt Lauer makes $25 million a year and he's never in a war zone. Maybe he should take a pay cut. There's a new thread for you to start.
And R76 do you know AC's story? He did start at the bottom and worked his way up. What you said is so not true. And just because he's good looking doesn't mean he's Ted Baxter. His looks have hurt him in a way because people like you don't take him seriously. You probably don't take any journalist seriously unless they look like Walter Cronkite..
R79 probably spends more time bitching about Anderson's money than she does watching Altchul, Amanpour, Engel or whoever. You're not fooling anyone.
R80 is a flip flopper
First saying AC is worth $11 million dollars
Then trying to divert attention to the fact more experienced journalists don't get paid the same as he is.
R79 there's a difference between a reporter and an anchorman.
[quote]he is a celebrity, not a newsman.
He's the CNN version DL's PPSM.
[quote] He did start at the bottom and worked his way up.
He did start at the bottom.
Bottoming for the boss at channel 1
Thank you R79, if ANYONE needs a pay cut is Lauer.
R83, trying to divert attention from the fact that she has a ax up her ass over Anderson Cooper.
R84, there's a difference between genuine criticism and someone being obsessed with one particular reporter.
[quote] there's a difference between a reporter and an anchorman.
Again another flip-flop
First you guys are saying what a superb reporter he is, worth $11 million dollars.
Then when it is pointed out that there are other more experienced reporters in Gaza, not making what he is making.
You shift gears and say he is an 'anchorman' which is different from a reporter.
Choose one narrative and stick with it!
My, all the cra-cra AC haters are out in full force tonight!
And still he's got more credibility and worth and value than R86. And stop lying you vile piece of crap.
[quote][R79] probably spends more time bitching about Anderson's money than she does watching Altchul, Amanpour, Engel or whoever.
Exactly, R82. Don't bother arguing with crazy people, it leads nowhere.
R88, you need to give it a rest, your obsession with Anderson is pathetic. You don't give a rat's ass about those other reporters, you just want everyone on DL to swoop in and attack AC so you can feel good about your crappy life.
R90 Steven Elzy at Channel 1
The bottom line is that we all can agree AC is being overpaid in comparison to Christiane Amanpour of ABC News.
Anyone who disagrees is quite delusional.
I'm letting the the REAL posters know that a lot of the post in this thread are posted by "multiples". People who will make a post and then answer themselves. Including the person that created the thread. THEY ARE BENDERFRAU!
what is a BENDERFRAU?
It's pretty funny to hear R93 talking about being delusional.
R96 so you think AC is better than Christiane Amanpour of ABC News?
No, the OP and R94 (who just gave herself away) are the only ones agreeing with each other. R91 you're right. It's a waste of time. Anderson is doing his job and won't be affected by some lame ass critic on DL, may as well let the lunatic start threads so she can play with herself.
He started his career by presenting his hole to Steve Elzy. I have never faulted a girl for throwing some cooter out there on the comeup, but don't start out as a whore and then pretend like you didn't.
It's the term that the AC obsessed/hating DL troll calls everyone who deals in reality and who's got her number as to why she's so negative towards him, R95. Don't engage her, she's COMPLETELY out of her mind, just leave her be to stew in her rage and anger and resentment over him.
[quote] Anderson is doing his job and won't be affected by some lame ass critic
Christiane Amanpour of ABC News is better than AC.
Compared to her, he is overpaid.
Deal with it.
R99 and OP need some immediate mental assistance.
But what is a what is a BENDERFRAU R100?
So it is okay for AC to sleep his way to the top, but no one else? Right R102 ?
I think it's fascinating to see how a couple of obsessed AC stalkers like R97 and R99 (who very well might be the same person pretending to be different posters) spend so much time and energy thinking about him, writing ridiculously negative comments about him here all day long, and trying to convince everyone that their "observations" are rational and well thought out.
R101 and OP are sickos.
I was curious to see how long it would take someone to twist that comment R86.
Someone mentioned in the other thread AC will be mentioned in the national inquirer with another guy in December.
This is a PATTERN. AC "came out" when he was on vacation in July. The picture with Ben and his piece also came out the day after AC went on vacation in Croatia.
Again this is a PATTERN. Someone from AC's camp or even AC is leaking information (probably false) to keep him in the news while he's on vacation. And then the benderfrau will come back and say,"You see'! Nothing will ever break them up not even AC cheating not even Ben cheating."
Yall are being played!
The insanity of the posters on this thread is breathtaking in its scop and depth.
But nobody is explaining what a BENDERFRAU is?
But I haven't even mentioned Ben.
I'm just talking about his experience.
How does that make me benderfrau?
What is a benderfrau?
Thank you R105 for pointing that out.
R110 is a tiresome crazy AC hater who sounds like a broken record.
Seriously guys if you don't tell me what a benderfrau is I will
a) Never contribute a post to an AC thread
b) Never start an AC thread.
The minute you mention benderfrau I'll be back.
But if you never mention benderfrau again I will stay away all things AC
a) Never contribute a post to an AC thread
b) Never start an AC thread
If only you could stick to that promise and never post again, r113! Unfortunately, we all know full well that we can't keep crazy people like you from derailing every single AC thread.
By all means R113, feel free to never contribute a post to an AC thread!
Trust me, your "contribution" won't be missed.
R113 it's just someone who is resented by this one insane DL podter because they believe that AC actually is in a happy and committed relationship with his bf Ben. So her derisive term is "Benderfrau" for those who are able to deal in reality and face facts.
"but what is a BENDERFRAU?"
TWO REALLY FUCKED UP PEOPLE that like to create AC threads only to pretend there's some deranged, angry, frau creating the threads to bash AC. Most of the REAL posters know these two and know what they are up to. They create all of the AC threads. They are really bored tonite. Probably separation anxiety.
No worries. They will be cheating on each other in the next couple of hours and then the thread will be un-hijacked for a while.
[quote]Most of the REAL posters know these two and know what they are up to.
What on earth are you talking about, R117? Are you so delusional that you think you (and apparently "most of the REAL posters" too) know who's posting here? Please enlighten us all and reveal the identities of the two people you think are creating those threads.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think R117 is implying that those AC threads are created by Anderson and Ben themselves. I know, it sounds so preposterously insane that it's hard to imagine that anyone would actually believe such a thing, but it's the only way I can make sense of her bizarre notion that "TWO REALLY FUCKED UP PEOPLE" are behind all the AC threads on DL, and that they "will be cheating on each other in the next couple of hours and then the thread will be un-hijacked for a while".
Am I the only one who interprets R117's crazy post that way?
I think you got it right, R120. R117 is actually saying that all the AC threads on DL are created by AC and Ben. The same poster also believes that
[quote]Someone from AC's camp or even AC is leaking information (probably false) to keep him in the news while he's on vacation.
Wow, conspiracy theory tin hat nutbag alert!
Seriously though, I'm actually speechless here. R108/R117's extreme insanity is so breathtaking, words fail me.
I know for a fact that Ben reads these threads as does Andy Cohen. So Anderson knows.
[quote] I think [[R117]] is implying that those AC threads are created by Anderson and Ben themselves. I know, it sounds so preposterously insane that it's hard to imagine that anyone would actually believe such a thing
Really R120? I can't believe that someone could be that crazy. Even by the rather extreme standard of what gets posted on an AC thread, if what you're saying is true, and R117 is really implying that, this one takes the cake.
[quote] know for a fact that Ben reads these threads
How could you know that for a fact, R122? Did you see it in your crystal ball?
"Thanksgiving is not until next week anyway, so maybe they've planned a vacation once Anderson returns from Israel."
AC will have plenty of time to vacation with Ben especially now that Ben has helped destroy AC's career.
Great job there Ben!!
The same person who is bothered irrationally by the amount of money AC earns is the same person who is irrationally angry about AC and Ben being a couple and that is the person starting and digging up old threads to go after him. That is the REAL pattern here.
I wish R117 would come back to clarify her wacky post. I'd love to hear her rationale for believing that every single AC thread on DL was started by Anderson and Ben. Does she actually think that Anderson posts on DL in between reports from Gaza???
[quote]Thanksgiving is not until next week anyway,
If you're going to a Thanksgiving dinner next week for 2012, you'll be a week late, r59. Thanksgiving is this coming Thursday, not next week.