Where can I go in Europe that is not overrun with immigrants?
I know this will probably make me seem like an asshole, but the last time I went to Europe I saw more immigrants than natives. WTF? All begging for money or trying to start trouble.
Is it so wrong to want to go to Italy and actually see Italians or London and see Brits?
Is there a country where I can go relax and enjoy the native culture without the Muslims, Moroccans and Nigerians?
NO, the shitheads beed like flies and permeate any area that is better than the shitholes they came from.
Maybe you should start the Fourth Reich, cunt?
How about the Weimar republic, OP
Stick with the smaller towns, OP.
Cunt at R2, I have been to Morocco, Turkey and Africa (all beautiful, lovely natives) and have no problem with the people. If they are kind, productive, and don't start shit, that's fine. I'm talking about places that are overrun with the asshole types.
Er, Moroccans are Muslims (so are some Nigerians for that matter) but I wouldn't expect an ignorant Zionist troll like you to know that. Try Serbia. Fascist scum like you would fit in well there. You don't even see the irony of an American (white settler colonization) craving "native culture".
It's no different in the US. Have you been to any large city in the USA lately?
Because the USA had countless immigrants in its founding years, Americans buy the crap that they have to be a sewer for the world's immigrants today. Now that they standard of living is falling like a rock in the US, maybe they will come to their senses and clean up their act for the good of America. I wouldn't lay any bets on that actually happening. In the case of the USA, their former prosperity didn't include any increase in their educations.
I "hear" what you are saying OP; I suppose you could try Eastern Europe, the "immigrants" don't seem to percolate into countries that can't/don't necessarily offer them a free ride. I hear Poland is an underrated country, beautiful countryside and cities (some of the western cities inherited from the Germans) and nearly all of the people native Poles. You could probably get by with German, French, English or Russian if you don't know any Polish. I hear the Baltic countries are nice too, including Finland (I think the Finns may have managed to keep the non-Finns out, unlike the other Scandinavian countries) and I hear Helsinki is a very walkable city. Hope this helps, it's difficult to ask your question without being outshouted by "you're-a-racist" freaks.
Nowhere. Because the second you arrive, you will have added to the "non-Native" presence in the place.
Wherever you go, there you'll be.
Wow. This thread is like my mother.
Thank you R9, I'm glad you get what I am saying. I appreciate your suggestions.
Thank you R9. Also, how do you keep your sheets so white?
Is this thread the location of the biennial KKK meeting? I'm guessing the shack outside of Shreveport is being used for meth production these days.
R13, it's not for nothing that you were the "unlucky" number for your post.......
r9 (the number of perfection in Hinduism)
How about going to Morocco or Nigeria?
Trolls don't even try anymore.
I'm from London. I recently went to Bristol and it's all originals.
It's pretty boring but you'll find what you're looking for.
[quote] Where can I go in Europe that is not overrun with immigrants?
In many ways, London's a much better & friendlier place than it was when it was all white and English...though occasionally it's nice (& extremely rare) to go into a shop or a cafe and communicate with ease with the people working there.
r16, either you are trying vainly to be amusing or you weren't paying attention in geography class. You must be one of these people who can't locate the United States on a world map. r14=one of the shrill "you're-a-racist/bigot" types.
[quote]Because the USA had countless immigrants in its founding years, Americans buy the crap that they have to be a sewer for the world's immigrants today
And those immigrants, including your own shit family, encountered assholes like you who think you have the right to be here, but others do not.
What exactly is your definition of American? Sarah Palin and her white trash family? The millions like them?
You think a company like Google or Apple are what they are because every employee is what is (no doubt) your racist definition of an American?
Most of this country is still white. The reason this country has gone to shit is specifically because idiots like you blame immigrants rather than the deregulation and greed pushed by "real" Americans which now encourages mostly white CEOs to squeeze every penny they can out of underpaid employees, and take that money out of the country.
Americans are no longer encouraged to produce anything but personal wealth, and they easily convince idiots like you that it's that Mexican landscaper who is the reason the country has gone to shit.
In the UK, you'd need to keep away from the major cities, particularly London, Birmingham and Leeds. But you can go basically everywhere else, including smaller cities, such as Bath, Cambridge, Edinburgh, and it's 99% locals.
Please don't get upset over these trolls.
It's their major objective. Don't hand it over.
In Marseilles - it is becoming more dangerous everyday, with the immigrants running the housing projects. The police are afraid to go in. Recently, cops showed up for a disturbance, and a thug pushed a refrigerator out a window, and killed 1. If you've got a nice car, thugs will follow you home, then break in and rob you. It's become very scary there. And yes, I am French - but happily live in US.
r18, I think I can agree with you about London to an extent, but it's also a more dangerous place in some areas than it was when it was "more English". I'm not entirely sure that one could attribute London's "friendliness" to having alot of non-English/British elements in the population, but perhaps you might elaborate.
There is nothing shrill about calling you and R19 racist. The fact that you single out Nigerians and Moroccans as oppose to Turks, Somalis, Ethiopians or Syrians is proof of that -- and you have a problem with Muslims as opposed to Christians from Nigeria and Morocco (many of whom have fled for that reason).
There are plenty of ways to enjoy the "local culture" in Europe even with other races and religions present, unless you just can't stand looking at them.
In Sweden, you can go to the Svenska Kyrkan and here services in Swedish. You can have coffee and pasty or go to Skansen and Djurgården or any other Swedish cultural site. I'm afraid you can't have only white people around you, even if you limited yourself to Swedes, since intermarriage is common these days.
R10 is right however. We want the people you're trying to avoid more than people like you. Please stay home.
Save the sermons for some church r20, one doesn't need to be castigated by the self-righteous likes of you.
The moment you step your foot there.
You will be an immigrant, worst an bigot immigrant
immigrants = brown people (white immigrants just blend right in don't they?)
Sorry to disappoint the Ivory-Merchant fans, but London/England was never whatever you saw in film or television. You've got to be a complete dolt to think it ever was this refined place of your Downton Abbey fantasies.
Also, when I lived in London for two months for job training, the "Asian" Brits were much more friendly and helpful than the "English" Brits - many of whom were just down right rude.
And no, I'm not some overbearing American - far from it.
Colonialism wasn't a good idea should we not have done that?
I think someone starts these threads as bait, flypaper to trap whom they perceive to be "racist" or "misogynist" (childish posters just trying to get a laff). Then they can trolldar them over and over, ff them and get them banned. Then they feel all self-righteous and powerful.
Perhaps it's even the Webmistress herself?
Same for the pron threads. Don't even respond.
r25, you invalidated your entire post by not knowing the difference between "here" and HEAR. I learned that difference in grade school, what's your excuse? And r27, you miss the point of this thread entirely--the point is when VISITING as a tourist one wants to see native people in their native culture, not a bunch of Turks, Indians, Africans, whoever, selling paper pigeons, drugs or themselves although if the original poster was of English ancestry and wanted to settle in England I wouldn't necessarily blame him/her, but how about some of the Indians going back to their own country so that would be possible? Also it's a bigot not an--learn proper grammar.
A skinhead rally in Germany.
OP you are just a nasty racist bastard, and we don't want your kind in Europe mate, so f off and die already!
When European people want to protect their countries and cultures it's called racist but when non-Europeans do it it is encouraged. It doesn't matter if you are rich non-Europeans like the Japanese or Israelis or poor non-Europeans like the Nigerians or Mexicans. They are all encouraged to protect their countries and cultures because it's the right thing to do.
"Protect" from what, exactly?
I don't think it's necessarily racist to want to experience the true culture of the country you are visiting. I, too, think Europe has allowed far too much immigration and is in danger of losing its cultural identity altogether. Particularly from Muslim immigration, simply because muslims will not integrate with the local culture.
[quote]OP you are just a nasty racist bastard, and we don't want your kind in Europe mate, so f off and die already!
& you're a gentle sweetheart, obviously.
Bless your little cotton socks.
People who have been advicing you to keep out of the bigger cities are right, OP. The immigrants in Europe all like to congregate there and create segregated hellholes reminiscent of where they came from.
Do stay out of Sweden entirely though. It's 20% immigrants now and in a foreseeable future it'll probably be a muslim country. The holier-than-thou moron at R25 is the type of person who dominates the public opinion there, while people even slightly wary of unchecked immigration have been shamed into silence.
Doesn't R35 find it a little late to start worrying about non-European countries "protecting their cultures" since they have been exploited and ravaged by European countries for centuries?
Perhaps immigration provides some redress, or at least a little more balance.
Or does R35 not care about all that?
Something tells me that if the muslims in europe were blond,blue eyed, people wouldn't have such a problem with them.
For R36: gay-bashing, woman-hating, violent crimes, draining of welfare programs, etc. etc. etc.
Well, identifying yourself as a bigot saves me lots of time, R42. Thanks.
R37 states it very well. I agree with R37.
The statistics don't lie, R44. I know you want them to, but they just don't.
The truth hurts
OP, if you came to Europe you would be a foreigner. Has it ever occurred to you that we don't want your type here? Especially in those parts where there are only "natives". And, we also don't want racists like you, so please fuck off from our continent.
The moron at r9 doesn't even realise the irony of what he/she/it is saying:
"I hear Poland is an underrated country, beautiful countryside and cities (some of the western cities inherited from the Germans) and nearly all of the people native Poles. You could probably get by with German, French, English or Russian if you don't know any Polish. I hear the Baltic countries are nice too, including Finland (I think the Finns may have managed to keep the non-Finns out, unlike the other Scandinavian countries)".
So, in reality, those towns and villages that are now "native Polish" never truly belonged to one ethnic group. But, somehow, today they supposedly do. What is the "true native culture" of a region that has actually been lived in for centuries by different (sometimes conflicting) ethnic groups, yet from which one has now disappeared?
Do you actually think that OP would know any foreign languages? And, why would one be able to get by with German or Russian in Poland? Anything to do with its multicultural past? At least they don't have too many Jews round those parts anymore, you'll be happy with that OP.
Oh, and that "monoethnic" Finland you're talking about: they have to teach Swedish in all schools and Russian in some others to cater for their "ethnic minorities". And, they don't all agree about what their "native culture" is.
R46 Typical response. To you Europeans don't have identities therefore don't have claims to land therefore mass immigration is the right thing to do because the people in this location are interchangeable. There has been a massive effort in the last 70 years to question European identities in an effort to break down European people so they accept mass immigration. If borders have been moved around then that is between those two countries and their people. It doesn't mean Chinese or Nigerians can move there because the borders have switches because by your thinking ethnic Europeans don't have identities linked to the land and are therefore interchangeable with anyone.
I think OP wants to travel to Europe not stay in Europe, btw.
If you only want to see whiteys, go to small towns, just like in the USA/Canada/Australia. If you go to the bigger cities in Europe, you'll see a lot more non-white immigrants....like duh, bitch...it's so sad Stormfront has members here too.
[R37] wrote: "...Europe has allowed far too much immigration and is in danger of losing its cultural identity altogether. Particularly from Muslim immigration, simply because muslims will not integrate with the local culture..."
and ths sounds like a complete idiot. How can a place be in danger of losing its cultural identity "altogether" to a group that, you say, "will not integrate"? What kind of logic is that?
Who wants to go to Europe, Edith? There's nothin' but a bunch of foreigners over there.
R47 = typical response of a complete moron who knows nothing about anything yet has vociferous, one-dimensional opinions.
We don't want OP to visit us either, not even for 5 minutes. And, if Europeans don't have "identities" (which is the sort of thing only a moron would say) then just what "native culture" is OP looking for anyway?
Not to mention, you didn't comprehend what I was saying. But, that's because you're a moron.
So, OP, I hope you got your answer: Europe doesn't want you anywhere near us, so fuck off.
Very odd: many Brits are building homes in Spain -- to "get away from the foreigners."
Still, The East End hasn't been the East End since Thatcher...
R51, etc., don't shit your pants
r49, not wanting to integrate is a problem here. Over the last twenty years people who emigrate to the US want us to adapt to them. In Flushing Queens business signs are in Asian languages. When police are called, they have trouble finding locations because the signs are not also in English. And don't tell me they should look for a street address. Often there is more than one business at an address. Multi-language signage is a public safety issue.
[quote]Over the last twenty years people who emigrate to the US want us to adapt to them.
Those aren't immigrants -- those are colonizers.
I swear, R20 may just make me vote me for Romney. Almost a parody of a liberal. Or some clueless hippie chick.
Look the fuck around.
I wish the Webbie would read this thread and ban the racist fuckers posting in it.
In fact, as I keep seeing their horrendous posts all over the DL, I cannot figure out why they weren't banned a long time ago.
Nobody wants them here, what's the hold up?
This thread is evil.
I can understand the OP. Multiculturalism today is all one-way. Nigerians want to live in London. Brits don't flock to Lagos. Multiculturalism has a way of same-ing things out, not necessarily enriching them.
Lived in Italy as a teenager and went back recently. Even poor towns like Palermo and Naples have masses of impoverished Gujaratis and Somalis hanging out, trying to sell junk no one wants. Some beg. It is sad and I feel sorry for them, but I miss Italy when it was more Italian. I don't see anything wrong with that. To their credit, Italians are less obviously racist than many Europeans. They seem puzzled by the new arrivals -- southern Italy has few prospects even for the natives.
The migration of muslims and north africans into european countries is a massive shifting of populations, and a mass migration which will be included in history books and historical accounts of the late 20th century and 21st century, and noted as massive change.
I think Bee said it best!!
Here's a travel website where "your kind of people" will feel much more welcome.
Eastern Europe, including Russia is good.. but they're very homophobic there.
Are there any French people left in France?
Muslims are afraid to go into Eastern Europe. Those Slavs and Cossacks would slit their throats if they started any shit.
Be as PC as you like, but multiculturalism has ruined Europe.
As R63 has indicated, the places OP is looking for will be homophobic.
It's occurred to me when anyone talks about seeing the "REAL" part of any country, what they really mean is hanging out with poor people."
[quote] Multi-language signage is a public safety issue.
R51 speaks for the ENTIRE CONTINENT of Europe.
Wow, who knew such an important person posts at DL?
Valid question OP. Eastern Europe is the go. In the last 20 years London has turned into a jungle. The riots last summer (utterly unthinkable when it was city of proud Cockneys) are proof of it. Countries like Holland and Belgium are already lost. And the average native there, if you press them, quietly depressed but fatalistic about it.
You mean white OP? London is overrun by Spanish, French, and Italian speakers but I bet you only notice the non-whites.
Exactly, r72. My part of London is pretty much 99% white and I often here people making racist comments about how nice it is to live in a neighbourhood that's still so "British" and "traditional" - we have a very large French and Swedish population who don't even speak English or try to integrate but I guess they're white so that's okay!
Much more than you do, racist jerk at r70.
R71 is right - as a Belgian (and gay) it's becoming a nightmare. Same in the Netherlands. We were one of the first countries to have equal opportunities for gays, gay marriage, etc. 99.99% of native Belgians do not have a problem with gay people. However, gay bashing and violence against gays (men and women) is rapidly increasing in cities like Liège, Antwerp and especially Brussels. Why? Because of muslim immigrants. Call me a racist, I don't care, I see what's happening in my country (same reports from the Netherlands and Germany). It's not all muslims, some are well integrated but the majority isn't and doesn't want to.
[quote]It's not all muslims, some are well integrated but the majority isn't and doesn't want to.
And that's precisely the problem with so many Muslim immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa. Not only do they not WANT to integrate into their adopted culture, they are downright HOSTILE towards the culture.
What did Europe expect after the colonialism? Many of those natives were encouraged to move to the mother country as cheap labour. France, the UK, Portugal and Belgium, all don't have a moral leg to stand on because they got rich off the backs of their African lands, raping, pillaging and literally stripping them bare.
Hostility towards the new culture is pretty classic, though. Such resent should even be expected. The problem is under the new multiculturalism, this resent is enshrined, and the "indigenous" people are made to toe lines that didn't exist before the new people arrived. This is only seen in colonization, and a classic example is British hegemony. In a way, Empire building of the last couple of centuries is at the root of these recent tensions as most of the behaviors seen in the newer arrivals are pure emulation of past white colonists behaviors.
Even in US History, one sees the defeated South after the Civil War being overrun by "carpetbaggers" who use draconian rules to not only take over many southern assets, but do so using the newly freed slaves and the occupying army's draconian rules to accomplish the theft.
Then, as now, groups like the KKK were formed to retaliate, but it is interesting that these groups never attacked the colonial powers, but only those they saw as their tools. Gone With the Wind is a popular book here on DL, and a quick review of the section where the ex-Confederates of Atlanta, including all of Scarlett's friends and relatives, shows the men massacring the former slaves and ne'er do wells who have formed a Shantytown at the edge of the city. These ex-solders did not attack the occupiers in power, but only the rabble that the army and its Northern hegemony had enabled. Such a structure benefits only the weakest and worst of the new people, and is often done so on purpose to keep the indigenous people down.
Back in the early 80s, my Mom went back to school and the only adult school that offered day classes was filled with immigrants trying to learn English and get their high school diplomas. The school had a mid-term picnic and there I met a man from Mexico who had mastered English, gained his diploma, and was now studying for college. He asked me where all the Americans were, because in his four years in LA, he'd yet to meet any. Like the poster up-thread who arrived in Italy and saw few Italians, this man from Mexico was a puzzled and disappointed. For people coming to a new place with good intentions and happy ambitions of interacting with the natives, the colonial structure offers little but disillusionment for all the better people caught in its swirl.
You really don't though, R74. All European countries are massively fed up with immigration and you know it.
The immigrant centers of the cities ARE the most homophobic centers R63.
Hear, hear, R66. Once the chattering races arrived to stay, the handwriting was on the wall!
OP, I understand. You are drawn to an authentic, local culture than only "natives" can provide in Europe.
So, here's an idea.
Since you would only add to the "foreign" presence, why not stay the fuck home!
Why exactly, OP, are you revolted by immigrants but not by tourists?
Looks like you got a few useful responses, OP. Lots of projection on this thread, and anger.
r46, don't resort to name calling, like some spoiled kid, simply because YOU don't understand the jist of this thread. BTW, think of another word besides moron, it seems to be way overused anymore, especially here, try thinking of another insulting name if you can instead of being another Polly Parrot. Also, please bear in mind that EU countries have freedom of travel without passport between countries, non EU countries need visas, passports, etc. Just as a side note, if Europe is becoming less conscious of ethnicity then why are there more efforts now to preserve the small native European ethnic groups and languages such as the Basques, Bretons, the Gaelic language (both in Scotland and Ireland)--seems to me a lot of Moslem immigrants would have little interest in these efforts. The long and the short of it is that most native Europeans don't want the immigrants there permanently much like how the Native Americans (some of them) would like all the whites and blacks to leave although we know that's not going to happen they're outnumbered now, UNLIKE the native Europeans--FOR THE MOMENT.
OP, sound like you have a soulmate in R1-
You sound dreadful and clearly are not really interested in the countries as they are but rather as you think they should be (your version of course)... kind of like the Tea Party here in the states.
Europe needs to ban all organized Religions or drown in it.
Just FYI, there are a number of sites that describe the waves of rape being committed in Sweden and Norway mainly by Moslem men as it seems to be indicated--google it and see. I don't really care, if Sweden wants to beckon more of those people in so that they can rape some more, more power to them--a Moslem Sweden, what a novel idea!! Puts the fear of god into them gall-dern Lutherans doesn't it? Besides that, for the the hysterics harping on imperialism and colonialism, Sweden and Norway were very minor players in that realm of activities so where is your justice in thinking a Moslem (and I will continue to spell it that way because that is how I was taught so any of you self righteous spelling bitches can stuff it up your ass with a wire brush!!) Sweden is the RIGHT thing to do?
[quote]Lots of projection on this thread, and anger.
For the record, "projection" doesn't mean what you think it means.
Sometimes a racist is just a racist.
You need to stop and figure out what a racist really is r90 and back it up before you point fingers and accuse others. Is there anything worse than a self-righteous bitch who makes sweeping, uninformed generalizations without backing anything up?
R89, I'm sure there are a number of sites that indicate what you speak of- just as there are neo nazi sites. Oh and- the turn of the 19th-20 Century did you know that blacks from the South and Asians in California were raping women too- mostly because they were high on pot and opium- so we criminalized drugs and of course maginalized both groups! (That is to say R89- it was all bullshit as is what you are referring to- which as you state it is otherwise known as bigotry.)
Ah yes, some things never change.
Sweden, Norway and Denmark may not have been colonial powers, but they imported the muslims voluntarily both as source of cheap labour and pretentious altruism. Also, Scandinavia's demographics were under threat from declining population (worst enemy of a welfare state) before they opened their doors to these immigrants.
Here you go, R89, and these numbers are underrepresented:
Now THAT is a beautiful example of projection, R91. Thank you.
Some of the Muslims in Denmark were invited, R93, (Turks and Pakistanis), but most were not. I think the turks have integrated somewhat but a lot of Pakistanis live like they're still in some remote mountain village in Pakistan. Declining population was NEVER why some were invited in the 60's and 70's. That's crazy.
Charlie, are you ACTUALLY defending rape? Who fucking CARES why they do it. I know there are pc idiots who will try to explain immigrant crime with social factors, but in what world does poverty drive someone to rape? It's cultural is what it is.
They do it because of their character, that's why.
Link please r92.
If you want to shut immigration, you need to at least abolish the welfare system, have lots of babies to increase future manpower and market growth, and invest heavily in robotics like in Japan.
It's interesting that all the racist shits on this thread pontificating about the cultural/ethnic make-up of Europe are not Europeans. It's not your culure to tell us what to do with it, so fuck off and please don't even visit.
I get what OP is saying as I live in a small Mediterranean country that is being overrun by illegal immigrants. It's not about skin colour, it's about living off of our taxes and then seeing them out and about with the latest iPhone. It's about spreading oppression against women due to their religious beliefs. Not to mention the increasing homophobia. To all those playing the racist card, apparently you do not live in these places in Europe...
What the fuck are you on about R101?. A lot the "racists" posting here clearly DO live in the affected countries and have first hand knowledge. I know I do and so far I have seen Belgian, French and Meditteranean people people identify themselves. I am Scandiniavian. Others are probably reluctant to say where they're from because their entire countries will then also be branded "racist".
You make me laugh, you really do. But not as much as the idiot at R73 who thinks there are Swedes living in London without being able to speak English. Like, seriously?
howl, I didn't think that sounded right either, R103. All those illiterate Swedes cooing around London with no interest in learning the language they learn at age 8 if not earlier.
For what it's worth, I dream of waking up in a world where I am bombarded by Swedes, Danes, Icelandic, Dutch immigrants. And their brains and talents and character. What a world that would be. And, no, I am not being even a little sarcastic.
Instead I am surrounded by Latina baby machines on nonstop assistance, conniving Nigerian cab drivers who replaced my wonderful Southern black cabbies, and Asians so cold they barely look human. Life in the big city. ugh.
You sound like a real catch, R104.
(And by "catch" of course I mean "racist twat".)
I didn't say the Swedish and French people in my neighbourhood don't know how to speak English, I said they don't speak it. They know how, they just choose not do (except when they have to like dealing with officials), because like I said they don't integrate but keep entirely to themselves, only attend the French and Swedish schools, most of them don't socialise with locals, etc.
It is a fact this neighbourhood has a large Swedish and French population, and if you were familiar with London you'd know which neighbourhood I am talking about. If you lived in this area, which you obviously don't, you'd know that what I say is true.
Of course they are not doing anything harmful in any way. They are for the most part perfectly nice people who live quietly and bring a lot of money into the neighbourhood. But the fact is if they had dark skin their behaviour would be considered dangerous and sketchy.
How does this thread have over 100 replies???
And if you'd read my post, dumbass, you'd see I was making a point about people saying how nice it is that the area is so "British" and "traditional" when so much of London "doesn't feel like Britain anymore", when it's obvious what they really mean is, "isn't it lovely to live somewhere where there are only white people." I have had that exact conversation with three of my elderly neighbours and they know damn well there are plenty of people on our street or even this block of flats who aren't British and don't answer if someone speaks to them in English.
I like the French and Swedish people who live here perfectly fine, I just think it's racist as fuck to be all "yay white people, who cares where they're from as long as they're white!"
Oh god, I should have known Charlie would be hanging around here with all his myopia and silly bullshit and here I thought it was someone one might have been able to consider seriously......what- evah! If OP is still around it might be interesting to hear what he/she thinks after presumably this thread, mercifully, draws to a close.
What's ironic is that some of you are an absolute scourge on *any* country.
There he goes again.....
r106 Yes, the Swedes and French are a totally alien culture to the Brits. It's as if a tribe of Zulus were set loose in your neighborhood. OP was looking for a homogenous cultural experience--like it or not, Africans, Muslims from the Middle East or Southeast Asia do not share the European culture of their host countries. They do seem to quickly figure out how your welfare states' benefits work though, don't they?
r106, I live in Los Angeles and I would give my left nut to be surrounded by Swedes and the French as the major immigrant groups. You have no fucking idea how nice that must be. Come to LA sometime if you want to see some real third-world shit.
Charlie is one of the dumbest and most annoying posters in DL history. Completely ignorant.
And your better than freepers, why?
Cosign R113. Give us your Swedes, your French, your huddled (white) masses yearning to breath free.
I'm still waiting for one of you fuckwits to adequately explain why "hooray for white people!" isn't a racist statement.
Jesus F. Christ.
R78, in all the years I've been coming to the DL, posters who eat Klansmen's excrement are rarely here for long. I fear we will not be treated to more gems like 78, a tutorial in fuckwitted logic and deliberately twisted interpretive skills. \t
What a bunch of idotic fucking wankers there are in this thread. Not everyone, thank heavens, and it could very well be the work of one really dedicated and obsessive wanker, but far too many wank-posts have been tolerated. Begone, trolls, before somebody drops a house on you.
Too bad, so sad.
R121 directed at the freeper.
And yes, R120, it is one or two, clearing cookies, obvious if you look at the threads being bumped.
I guess all that rage about tomorrow's inevitable outcome is knocking a few of their remaining screws loose.
That's kinda nice.
Yup, pretty soon you'll see Irish, Italians and Jews piling into the U.S.. I don't want this. Do you?
LOL, seriously, I want to know where all the ones aghast at the so-called racism live, work, function, and do they see anything in front of them? Ever?
Really, if ONLY it was about race... I live in the blackest city in America and love it. But I do not love (nor understand) allowing the bottom of the barrel in from other countries and, yes, that can go for whites too (the Russian douchebag who killed Cosby's son while he was changing a tire comes to mind). We can not oh what's the point I am always baffled at those living in a bubble. Even the media with its supposed liberal spin acknowledges what happens in the world and who's doing it.
I think Gore Vidal really said it best:
[quote]A characteristic of our present chaos is the dramatic migration of tribes. They are on the move from east to west, from south to north. Liberal tradition requires that borders must always be open to those in search of safety or even the pursuit of happiness. But now with so many millions of people on the move, even the great-hearted are becoming edgy. Norway is large enough and empty enough to take in 40 to 50 million homeless Bengalis. If the Norwegians say that, all in all, they would rather not take them in, is this to be considered racism? I think not. It is simply self-preservation, the first law of species.”
[quote]Yes, the Swedes and French are a totally alien culture to the Brits.
[quote]I live in Los Angeles and I would give my left nut to be surrounded by Swedes and the French as the major immigrant groups. You have no fucking idea how nice that must be. Come to LA sometime if you want to see some real third-world shit.
Jesus fucking Christ, learn to read, retards. Or are you racist trolls trying desperately to make out it's perfectly fine and dandy to automatically love all white people and only want to be around white people, and automatically judge and dislike anyone who is non-white? Nowhere did I complain about living in a French and Swedish neighbourhood or about those people themselves. They have nothing to do with anything, I just used them as an example of how racist and hypocritical the actual Brits I live with are. Raving about how nice it is to be surrounded by "traditional British people" when you really mean "isn't is nice to be surrounded by white people" is racist. Freaking out when you see my non-white, 3rd generation British boyfriend who went to Oxford and has a good job because he's "a foreigner and foreigners just don't belong here" but raving about our neighbours who are not British at all and ignore you if you speak to them in English just because they happen to have white skin, is not only racist but incredibly hypocritical.
[quote] But I do not love (nor understand) allowing the bottom of the barrel in from other countries and, yes, that can go for whites too (the Russian douchebag who killed Cosby's son while he was changing a tire comes to mind).
It does not "go for whites, too."
They as much said so upthread.
[quote]I didn't say the Swedish and French people in my neighbourhood don't know how to speak English, I said they don't speak it. They know how, they just choose not do (except when they have to like dealing with officials), because like I said they don't integrate but keep entirely to themselves, only attend the French and Swedish schools, most of them don't socialise with locals, etc.
They probably speak English at work, but prefer their native language in their private time, especially if they have kids.
[quote] Where can I go in Europe that is not overrun with immigrants?
no where. They have ruined everything
Is it safe to say this thread has crashed and burned? If not, will someone kindly shoot it to death as an act of mercy?
BANG BANG--one shot from each boobie!
Do white people ever do anything besides complaining about colored people?
When I was 17 and an ardent Anglophile like my mother and sister I saved up for a full year so I could pay for my plane ticket so we could all go to England. She footed the rest of the bill. Of course we landed in London.
Well this was in the late 70's after Idi Amin had chased all the Pakistanis from Uganda. Since they were British citizens they all fled to England and London.
Well we were kind of in shock when we got there cause there didn't seem to be any English people in London!!! Yeah we were naive. Where were all the English people? Of course later in the trip we ended up in Cambridge and York and Bath and all sorts of small English towns and got the full Anglophile experience and met a lot of Brits. But our favorite person we met was a guy who had been born in Poland but fled and joined the British army during WWII. He just laughed and laughed when we told him we couldn't find any British people in London cause he felt the same way.
European cities are flooded with people from all over. If you want a nostalgic cultural experience go to the small towns and by ways.
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Isn't it a dreadful shame that we no longer live in a society where the muddy heathens no longer know their proper place?
Also agree with R113.
R133, by going to the small towns you got the boring, stuffy, white middle class version of England that so many Americans cherish for some reason.
Because once you've been hustled by one too many Nigerian gypsies wanting to sell you a ring cheap or had one crazy drunk throw a bottle way too close or been bumped into one time too many or shortchanged or pickpocketed or followed around a store by a Pakastani woman eyeing your every move, you yearn for the civilized people of Europe, boring or not. Or laugh about it all later while your liberal friends cringe with concern for all those poor victims of circumstances, yeah right.
Our perceptions are totally based on experience, at least if one is lucky enough to travel and see for oneself (that is, if they WANT to see anything). And that applies to walking out the door and down a city street here in America too. It's not all bad, no, but it's not all good either and anyone who thinks it is clearly is in some bubble.
White Russian immigrants are just about the worst. So this is not a racial thing.
Here is a current thing happening in Denmark: a housing association with 9 board members - five Muslim and five Danish - have decided they don't want to pay for the annual Christmas festivities. The vote is split down the middle. The Christmas festivities cost 9,000 Danish Kroner. This has shocked many people because the same housing association a short while ago spent 60,000 Kroner on Eid festivities. That decision was unanimous.
A generous donor then offers 7,000 Kroner so a Christmas tree can be bought and 7,000 Kroner for the next Eid festivities. The Muslim members of the housing association REFUSE the offer saying that they don't want to be "dictated by outside influences". The Minister of Culture says this is all just a "natural development of traditions".
Such lovely and tolerant people, the Muslims.
Gee, R140, I wonder what they could be hiding.
Actually America had all beautiful and clean cities before they were trashed by the sub-human horde. I understand how it's hard if not impossible for islam to admit itself as heretical. Muslims are scum look at how the behave. You are what you are . You want jihad I want crusades much much more.
I have traveled a bit and can tell you that London, Paris and Denmark are pretty much trashed thanks to the religion that loves death and dying and hates women. In America, Toronto has changed for the worse; Chicago and its' suburbs have quickly deteriorated; forget many cities in Michigan; Toledo, Cleveland are ruined; Los Angeles is a mess; New York City is worse than ever; beautiful Boston is becoming a mess; name a big U.S. city and you will find it infiltrated with nasty people whose religion is death, and these are the ones responsible for the decline. Crazy liberals who love diversity have never traveled and are uneducated.
And you know what? I will take Sarah Palin and Wal Mart "white trash" types over people who chant in the streets and bring their crap with them to once beautiful cities.
what about the major cities of Ireland and are they still "safe"
I was in Ireland five years ago and it was fine then. The Irish and Scottish natives are some of the nicest and most hospitable and polite people you will ever encounter. Love both countries.
Hope they have not changed due to the enemy.
Can we just get this whole thread deleted?
WHY? because the truth hurts?
Spend some time outside of your bubble and you will see the posters here know what they are talking about.
Try the Ku Klux Klan, I am sure they love you!
"beautiful Boston is becoming a mess"?!?! Beautiful Boston? Now that is something you do not hear very often.
Since, human life began in Africa, OP, there is nowhere in Europe you can go that is not overrun with immigrants.
The Klan is horrible and what they did is horrible.
The posters here are not fans of the Klan.
Get with the program and learn to read context.
The people the posters dislike are ruining many cities and countries.
Boston is or was a very nice city.
Go jump off a bridge "Colleen".
R144, I have no idea what you rae going on about. I agree with you on London, Paris and Denmark but not on Chicago or NYC. I live here in Chicago and Muslims are not a big group here, not like they are in English cities. They aren't destroying anything. The reason our crime rate is high is because crime from the bad areas is really bad, but areas like the gold coast and the loop are fine. The suburbs are fine too.
I hate the word "racist". It is the biggest "excuse" word that ever existed. If I don't like you for some reason, whether it be your behavior or beliefs, and I call you out on it, it is much easier to cry "racist" than to actually take a look at yourself and reflect on WHY I don't like you.
There is only one "race" of people that I don't care for and that is Muslim men. The women and children are lovely, I like them a lot. But the men are the most ignorant, hateful, vile-to-the-core human beings on the planet. There, I said it. And no, I'm not racist. My experiences as a professional with these men have been what caused my dislike, not the color of their skin. I wish they would all stay in their shithole countries and stop polluting the rest of the world.
R155 is a self loathing bigot.
How do you think people in Iraq feel about all the Americans occupying their country for no other reason than securing the cheap supply of oil.
OP, think about it!
OP and his friends, where in the US could I go where I would only encounter true, wholesome Americans, none of this funny African-American stuff?
And wherever you do travel in Europe, especially in train/bus stations, public transport, and tourist areas, watch out for the Rom/Roma (aka gypsies). Adept thieves, they swarm around tourists spots. As long as they only prey on tourists, the police do nothing to stop them.
I was walking in Rome central bus station when a Rom teenage boy walked up behind me, unzipped my backpack and had his hand inside it before I felt someone behind me. I turned, screamed at him. He simply removed his hand, smiled and walked away. There were two Italian police not 3 meters from me who saw the incident. They just looked at me, shrugged and continued talking.
[quote]The posters here are not fans of the Klan.
They're of the same ideology without using the name.
You came to the wrong site with that question. Most of the people are are devoted to Political Correctness.
Gee, R162, I find the tone here generally quite xenophobic, although I'm not fond of seeing all those African women in burkas parading in and out of the local public housing office nearby myself.
[R160] Sure, all white men are evil greedy racist haters and all dark-skinned people are noble humanitarians who never wrong anybody. If it weren't for white men, the world would be happy happy happy, joy joy joy, and everybody would be holding hands and singing Barney the Dinosaur songs.
The political correctness of so many posters here is mind-boggling.
Wow R161. That's very much like Los Angeles and the Mexican immigrants. And most don't bother to learn English.
How can you be racist when most of the muslim hoards are Caucasian? For the record, I would rather be the only Jew living amongst an entire community of RC Cardinals bucking for Pope during the Inquisition than those fucking, everything-hating muslim men! Don't come to MY country and expect ME to wear some shit on my head, ASSHOLES! And DON'T fucking deny me the right to do ANYTHING my nation/culture has been doing for hundreds if not thousands of years. You are in MY country, I am NOT in YOURS! And if you don't like anything about my country, except of course it's social programs, then stay the fuck OUT!
Australians have the best response to immigrants who whinge and complain and demand that their culture take precedence over the host culture.
"If you don't like our way of life, go back to where ya came from."
I think Muslim immigrants tend to be problematic, especially the ones from Pakistan,Saudi Arabia and Morocco.
I have never encountered any hostile Hindus from India or any insular East Asians
Why is it that some immigrant groups like the Indians and the Chinese succeed whereas the other groups which coincidentally happen to be Islamic,fail to integrate?
Islam has coveted Christian Europe since Mohammed's followers rode out of Saudi Arabia in the 7th century. Over the centuries, Muslims were successful in conquering large parts of Spain, Italy, eastern Europe up to Vienna, Sicily, Malta until driven out by Christians. The last Muslims rulers (Ottomans) were driven out of Northern Greece after WW1.
Empty-headed European Union immigration, migration and human rights policies have handed Islam what 1,500 of war couldn't. Islam has finally conquered Christian Europe.....without firing a shot.
R167 has anger issues and is clearly a woman, a woman who hates men, so she can just exit stage left. Thanks, dear!
R171 = living, breathing, lame cliché. At least come up with something either intelligent or witty.
In Switzerland we have all these German immigrants. They are the worst.
Go to Switzerland.
Iceland, Croatia, Switzerland, Lapland.
Switzerland has 20% immigrants on average, and 30% in the cities. A lot of them are from ex-Yugoslavia and even more of them are Germans.
I agree with R173, the Germans are the worst. If you are German and moving to Switzerland you have to be aware that most will hate you. Can't stand those arrogant bastards.
I know this is a very old thread. Just goes to show that on the DL a gossip thread gets deleted without a second though, wild speculation on a MH370 thread can get it deleted, but a racist/xenophobic thread ? No worries, it can live forever. And the stupider the better. The DL loves ignorance.
Why not try Iran? Next to no foreigners there.
The irony of a bunch of foreigners (Americans) being "concerned" about Europe's ethnic diversity.
Another irony is a Jew complaining about funny religions in Europe. Although, r167 isn't a European so has a twisted view of what's going on in Europe.
R161 seems not to realise that many Londoners and "indigenous" residents of other large cities in the UK actually like having plenty of Indian restaurants around. And, although that video was specially shot to show scenes where there are only Asian people (as we call them in the UK), those kinds of street scenes would certainly also have many "indigenous" people in them in daily life anyway.
In any case, British Asians were part of the British empire and British citizens until the 1940s.
Swiss chick, you people are hilarious. It just shows that some people don't like anyone who's "foreign", even if they speak almost the same language and look and behave almost exactly the same as them.
You have no idea r178. Germans and Swiss people are nothing alike.
Ask every Swiss person and they will agree, like Swiss chick.
Tell me more, r179. I've been fascinated by the insularity of the Swiss since this recent vote to put quotas on "foreigners" from settling in the country.
I was, of course, referring to superficial outward appearances. I'm sure there are plenty of differences in the minds of Swiss: Swiss are all nice and caring and love their local communities whereas Germans are brash and rude and drive big cars. Or something like that.
But, however, different you may think you are, in the case of Swiss and Germans we're talking about people from the same language group who share the same roots and have lived in the same neighbouring regions for millennia.
How do Swiss feel about each other? Do the German-speaking Swiss see themselves as different from the French-speakers? What about the Italian-speakers?
I'd imagine there are as many "differences" between those groups as there are between Schweizerdeutsch-speakers and Germans.
Race = immutable GENETIC characteristics...criticism or mockery of which is disgusting, unacceptable and truly "racist".
Culture = a CHOICE that in any free and free-thinking society SHOULD be subject to examination, debate, consensus, criticism, censure, derision,mockery and ultimately,should that "culture" be determined a detriment to that open society, REJECTION.
people should just stay in there own countries
we would not have the problems all over the world .there is no need for it if you screw up your own country with war it sucks to be you then don't come here
We don't want you here, you immigrant OP. Stay where you are.
Wait, Swiss chick! Could you explain this comment a little more:
[quote] I agree with [R173], the Germans are the worst. If you are German and moving to Switzerland you have to be aware that most will hate you. Can't stand those arrogant bastards.
Why are there so many Germans coming to begin with?
I lived in Germany for a few years and travelled to Switzerland on business. There is a mutual dislike bordering on hatred between both. The Swiss find the Germans loud, boorish and arrogant, the Germans find the Swiss petty, cold and tight fisted.
I struck up a conversation with a German in a gay bar in Zurich. He had lived there for several years and was very lonely basically only remaining for the higher wages compared with Germany. He held forth about how it was difficult to engage with the Swiss right in front of the Swiss barman who nodded frequently in agreement.
You do realize that you're a foreigner in another country...kind of like an immigrant, right?
[quote]we have a very large French and Swedish population who don't even speak English or try to integrate but I guess they're white so that's okay!
I have a very hard time believing that the French and Swedes in London a) do not speak English b) have no interest in interacting with the native population and c) are unskilled.
OP, actually there is not one pure race on this earth. If you weren't that ignorant, you would know that by now. From ancient times since now, all races mingled with some or with many others.
Learn some history and then make your ugly observations about people.
Give me one country, every country you want and tell me that these people are just English, or French, or German etc...
They are not. People were mingling with other people all the time. Never in time was ever one race who stayed forever alone in one country forever without getting mixed with other races.
Generally speaking, eastern Europe has far fewer immigrants than western Europe, for many economic, touristic & linguistic reasons.
Particularly Croatia & the former Yugoslav republics, the Baltic Three (Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania), Poland, Bulgaria, Rumania & Hungary.
However, with the exception of the Baltic countries to a degree, the others are not gay-friendly. The further east you go, the less gay friendly.
get a time machine you fucking asshole
next you'll be asking where in America you can go to escape those pesky negroes
The Pacific Northwest
Northern midwest states like ND,SD,MN,WI
Hawaii & Alaska
Most of the SW states & the farmbelt states, like IA,WY,NE
It's not about racism, it's about preserving one's culture. There are probably more Eastern Europeans (aka white people)and Portugese (aka white people) in England and France now than there are Arabs. It's really going to reach a boiling point not too long from now, imho.
We have pesky negroes in the northwest, even ones in muslim outfits queuing for benefits.
R192 I honestly don't know why Europe keeps letting in so many asylum seekers. Most of them don't know how to behave and trash whatever European country they move to and cause trouble. A small few actually want a better life, but most just want to bring their old way of life with them.
I don't get it either, r194. Like I said, I really don't think it's going to end well in Europe. People are going to be pushed too far and major shit is going to happen, which I predict will be in the near future.
Where can I go in America that is not overrun with immigrants?
Only Ni'ihau and indian reservations, I guess.
r196 that is a false analogy and you damn well know it, shit-stirrer.
op, what an attitude like yours, you should just rip your passport up and never leave your bedroom
Why are people bitching about Hispanics?
They integrate fully after one generation, many have children who join our military (see how many Persian, Russian, or Armenian children do that) and they cheerfully do customer service work for low wages.
And to add, the southwest was an Hispanic-occupied region for five hundred years.
Great food, too.
The future of America will be Hispanic and Asian, with the Chinese controlling things and the Hispanics doing the labor.
I have come to terms with that, accept that, and figure that things could be A LOT worse than that given the low-rent cultures that love to beat women and abuse children.
Who would you rather have buying America--China or Saudi Arabia?
[quote]And to add, the southwest was an Hispanic-occupied region for five hundred years.
Yeah, all 10 of them lol! The Southwest was basically an unpopulated wasteland that Mexico had little interest in when they more or less owned it.
Jesus H. Christ on a motorboat. Who the fuck let all the gay Nazis in?
Sorry, but the first visitors any native person saw for three hundred years were Spaniards.
And, the southwest was not a wasteland, it had an immense population of flora and fauna, especially in California.
"Flocks of bird large enough to blacken the sky."
Well r202 when a group of people preaches that gays are subhuman and deserve death, we tend not to be too fond of that. Call us crazy, but we'll take them to task for preaching such hatred.