Chris Hayes used to dress well when he'd be on as a writer for The Nation, yet now he looks like a refugee from K-mart even on "dress up" night events.
What the deal with this Cupp lady? Is she supposed to be the gay lady counterpart to Steve Kornacki the gay guy? Kyrstal seems the fag-haggy straight womna, and Toure their metrosexual?
I see they had Jeff Zeleny of the NY Times on as a pundit the other day. He reminds me of those Gag-the-Fag videos I've ... heard so much about.
I think Chris Hayes is still hot as shit. I just wish he was family. I like to believe he's got a little bi in him despite the wife and kids.
S.E. Cupp is the latest dreadful attempt at "young hip Republican - now with hipster glasses". She's just sad and everyone knows it.
Krystal Ball clearly used to be a stripper before she became a "pundit"
The specs kinda make Chris look a bit raccon-ish to me. Kornacki is better looking. I get strong 'Dar off Ari Melman as well.
I've seen little of Kornacki because I just can't bear watching that show with 1 Cupp.
[R2] I doubt that!
Ezra Klein is my MSNBC crush.
Ezra's not bad, though I wish he'd dress a bit better -- he's another that sets off my 'Dar.
God help me - I think Lawrence O'Donnell is kind of hot. Must be a 'strict daddy' thing.
I like that little flip, smark alec, Alex Wagner.
L O'D is just too obnoxious, but I suppose I could see others finding him hot.
Alex Wagner seems a little *too* "flip" for me.
Here's Jeff Zeleny about to play Gag The Fag with Rick Santorum
Alex is very attractive. Ezra has a hairy you know what...
S.E. Cupp must be embarrassed by her Italian heritage because 'Cupp' is not her real name.
Her occasional columns for The Daily News are nauseating and hateful, she's not much of a writer either. Is she supposed to be Coulter Jr?
How do these morons even get jobs, let alone high paying ones?
Why won't anyone get Steve another sweater. He's been wearing the same grey sweater since the storm. It's really noticeable as he's never worn one before.
Toure has been wearing the same clothes, too. Must be the storm. I haven't been watching long - is Steve usually suited or casual?
I love how Krystal Ball is consistently invited to be a guest on the later shows like The Last Word, and S.E. is not - do you think she's noticed?
Steve is also on later shows. I'm assuming Toure and S. E. have other commitments and can't stick around.
RICHARD LUI IS MAJOR FUCKING HOT, THE HOTTEST MAN ON MSNBC!
Yes, he is!
I had crossed off watching them. But I gave it a chance. I actually like them. They have a good mix of chemistry too.
I like Ari, Krystal, Steve and Joy Reid. I also like Alex Wagner.
It took me several weeks to watch more than 2 minutes of the show because I didn't want to hear angry black man rants from Toure. About a couple weeks ago I started watching the show regularly largely because I've had a crush on Steve Kornacki for years. I wondered about his sexuality and he finally came out last year. He's really smart and knows so much about politics. What's interested me lately is the relationship between S.E. and Steve. I can't figure out if they are friendly toward each other or not outside of the show.
[quote]S.E. Cupp is the latest dreadful attempt at "young hip Republican - now with hipster glasses". She's just sad and everyone knows it.
Every generation must have its Kennedy.
(I looked up Kennedy after writing that... her last credit was appearing with pitchman Anthony Sullivan on something to do with infomercials.)
Toure isn't an angry black man. He's just annoying. Krystal and Steve seem close. SE is an avid hunter.
Chris' hair and glasses have improved much in the last year, while his wardrobe has gone downhill. WUWT?
Steve K is unwatchable. His angry white man routine drives me nuts.
Steve -- angry? My biggest beef is that he speaks so fast!
Joy Reid is one if the best things of this election season - I could watch videos of her reading the phone book!
Steve simply isn't very bright. He's just a blabbermouth.
Steves talks too fast sometimes. Joy Reid does a great job. She's very insightful.
Touré is hot!
I like Karen Finney, Richard Wolfe, Ari Melber, Joan Walsh, and lately I'm digging on Joy Reid, who is very smart.
I like Karen Finney too.
Sorry [R31] - I'm not Anderson Cooper!
I adore Joy Reid. Also like Richard Wolffe.
I watch MSNBC from "Morning Joe" through "Last Word," skipping Chuck Todd's and Andrea Mitchell's shows, both of whom I find very annoying.
I am addicted to MSNBC. I could watch it all day if I didn't have to go to work. Here in California, 'Morniing Joe' is on 3-6 am, but I still manage to watch a fair amount of the show. I like Chris Jansing, Thomas Roberts, and I'm late for work all the time because I like watching at least some of Alex Wagner.
The only two throughout the day who I could give up are Chuck Todd and Al Sharpton, but I watch them too if I'm around.
In the evening, my favorites are Lawrence O'Donnell (who is my very favorite), Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews.
"The specs kinda make Chris look a bit raccon-ish to me."
It's not the eyeglass frames, his entire eye area is darker than the rest of his facial skin. A lot of people have this problem, it stems from genetics or bad allergies.
My sister has this and she's only 24, she can easily cover the darker area with a lighter eyeshadow and under eye cover cream, which I guess Chris doesn't want to do, even for TV.
Really look at him the next time, you can see his lid area and the entire under eye area are dark.
You can clearly see the dark eye area in these rimless frames.
I watch Morning Joe for Joe's ongoing depression over the Romney loss.
I love Joy Reid. What's her story
Thanks [R37] - I thought his specs were tinted.
Joy Reid is in the stratosphere in the "likeability" department!
I live in Hell's Kitchen, a few blocks away from Rockefeller Plaza from where they'll be broadcasting live through election night overlooking the Center; I think they're calling the setup Democracy Plaza or such. The dog and I plan on going over there tomorrow and watching some of the shows from the street.
Joy-Ann Reid is the managing editor of The Grio, NBC's black news website. Joy-Ann is one of my new favorites. She's one smart cookie.
Joy Reid is the breakout star of the 2012 election. By far the most watchable and intelligent commentator on cable news. I think she's next in line to get her own on MSNBC. She seems to be a favorite with all the different hosts.
Adore Karen Finney. Is she black? interracial?
Of course, David Corn single-handedly changed the course of the election with the 47% video. I wonder if he's gay? He doesn't wear a wedding ring.
Steve Kornacki is cute and smart. But for high-powered sexy, you can't beat Ari Melber. He is so hot he makes me melt. Guess he's str8 but not married. Anybody know more about him?
r36, I agree.
For me, it's Toure all the way. Hot to death. And brilliant.
[quote]Adore Karen Finney. Is she black? interracial?
Karen Kenney self-identifies as Black.
[quote]Of course, David Corn single-handedly changed the course of the election with the 47% video.
Ari Melber is too wimpy and pretty for me. John Heileman is about the hottest pundit seen on MSNBC, sex on a stick!
My 'Dar is pretty bad, but I could see why folks would pick up a signal from David Corn.
Rachel's relationship with Nate the other day was kind of weird, she was being incredibly kid-glove in bringing up his feelings on how he has been injected into the race personally, but it only occurs to me know that she was implying the "effeminacy" charge; I had thought she just meant the challenge to his ability as a stats guy in general.
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I don't know how anybody can have MSNBC on for a significant part of their day. I only watch the nighttime shows on occasion. Chris Matthews's deranged yelling is funny only when I am in the mood, when I am not he just grates. Rachel and Lawrence at least used calm, reasonable speaking voices most of the time.
I laugh out loud whenever Lawrence introduces Krystal Ball. I just think there are some things that automatically keep people from getting certain jobs, even if it's their birth name or the fact that you were forced to be a Nazi youth when you were growing up.
There is just absolutely NOTHING of value in Ed Schultz. The night of the first debate when he was yelling and slamming the table and screaming at the camera over Obama's lack of luster was just ridiculous and did as much to shape the narrative of Obama "not wanting it enough" than anything else that happened that week. You know Ed, you exist because to play Rush Limbaugh's good twin, not to behave like the real thing. When he kicks off his show with "Let's get to work," I think, no this is YOUR job. I'm changing the channel.
Having said all that, I would lick every inch of that furball Ari Melber.
Joy Reid is sharp. I love her. She is the breakout star of the election season.
I'm not a fan of Jonathan Capeheart. I know he's openly gay and always well-dressed, but I've never heard him utter anything insightful or interesting. He's also been too conservative this election cycle for my tastes. He tries too hard to be unbiased, and ends up not saying anything.
R38: Scarborough will keep claiming "This race is neck and neck" until Wednesday morning.
MSNBC keeps trotting out old, white Republican Tom Brokaw. He clearly can't stand Obama.
Capehart is just too flamboyant for me. I said it, flame me, but that's my reaction. I don't think he's that well dressed, as much as over-the-top about it.
Ed Schulz I usually turn off, unless I'm busy doing something online and keep him on as background noise.
I ask again, does Steve usually wear a suit (as Toure does)?
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[quote]Karen Kenney self-identifies as Black.
Karen Finney; sorry about that.
Add me to the list of people who love Joy Reid.
I love Steve Kornacki, but I have to agree with the earlier poster - he doesn't always make the most insightful comments. I can't tell if that's because he's not exceptionally bright, or if that's because he's afraid to ruffle the evident dullards (S.E. Cupp and Toure).
I like Chris Hayes, but I don't get people's attraction to him. I do, however, get the Ezra Klein lust...
Chris Hayes is c-u-t-e in a nerdy way. Ezra is okay, but is just too boring, maybe if he dressed a bit less dull?
Steve is better one on one with Rachel than as part of the Cycle group, where he's kind of overshadowed.
Never been a fan of Melissa Harris-Perry before, but her election special last night with an all-woman panel was really, really good.
I would like MSNBC to replace Ed Schultz with Jennifer Granholm. Granholm is a lot like Rachel: she focuses on obscure issues that you don't often see on other news shows.
They also need to get rid of Al Sharpton. He's an activist and he seems out of place on a news network. Use him as a pundit. That's fine. But to be a host on a news show? No.
They also need to bring back David Shuster.
I'm not fond of MHP either, who comes across as a (gently) angry black woman to me - a one-note-Janie. Sharpton is kind of the same, a "meh" hour.
I felt Granholm's convention speech was a painful unhinged rant.
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Granholm was a crowd pleaser at the Convention. The whole purpose of a Convention is ignite the base. It's not about the independents or the moderates. It speaks directly to the base.
Anyways, it's obvious you don't watch her show (not many do), but she's brings in guests from outside the beltway and her topics are not well covered by other news cast.
[quote]Chris Matthews's deranged yelling is funny only when I am in the mood, when I am not he just grates.
I CANNOT STAND the way he talks over people who are trying to finish their thoughts. I wish someone would tell him to STFU.
[quote]They also need to bring back David Shuster.
Amen. They should bring back [italic]Countdown[/italic] and let him host.
Chris Hayes looks like a lesbian woman to me.
Hmmm, no one has mentioned me.
Meghan McCain, MSNBC contributor
David Corn appears to be hetero, although he can be quite giddy when Chris Matthews gives him a tingle up his leg.
Another vote to bring back Shuster. Yeah, Ari Melber is a hot Jew - sorry PC people, but that's what everyone's thinking. But his personality is meh. Thinks he's more intelligent than he is . Love David Corn, Karen Finney, but especially Joan Walsh. Mature, calm , smart. And Chris Matthews is like a constantly upset uncle you can't help but love. Old school. And I like Alex - quick, precise, smart. She handles those panels extremely well. Chuck Todd is , well, Chuck Todd. Great at polls, and numbers - like John King on CNN. Just not as attractive.
There's a male African-American university professor they sometimes have as a guest pundit who really seems to have almost nothing substantive to add, almost as though he got the contract through some sort of "connection" than anything else.
Joan Walsh has great politics, but a little of her goes a long way!
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[r14] Maddow, I think, mentioned that many of them were stuck at the studio following the storm. She was also commenting on her own wardrobe. Maybe that's why SK has been in that sweater so much.
John Stanton; haven't seen him in a few months though
I call Melissa Harris-Perry's show "What's Racist This Week" because that is the focus of her show, race particularly black people. One moment she is lecturing us that race is a social concept, that races don't exist, then the next she is talking about black people, white people, Asians etc.
R70 When Comcast bought a majority stake in NBCUniversal there were congressional hearings. The Congressional Black Caucus forced Comcast to impliment racial quotas. Cenk Uygur was forced out and replaced by Al Sharpton. Tamron Hall got a permenant show. Melissa Harris-Perry was given her own show.
I like Chris Hayes -- really do -- but one thing I've noticed is about his teeth: they seem to be angled slightly backwards in his mouth.
They're small and they're angled down and back. It's all I look at when he's on my screen. Distracting to me!
they should def bring Eliot Spitzer into the mix.
Hot, nice body, and very intelligent.
I used to like Melissa Harris-Perry as a guest. But now that she had her own show for a while--I like her much less. I get tired of her professorial tone and her professsor type guests. I prefer political analysts to her poly-sci panelists, or as she likes to say, those in "nerdland."
Also, here in California, Chris Hayes/"UP" comes on 5-7 am. Then MHP on at 7 am. I wish MSNBC would flip these two so that Chris comes on at 7 am. Put MHP on at 5 am.
I love how MHP uses the term "NERDLAND" for her show.
I am wondering if Krystal Ball and S.E. Cupp are fighting behind close doors.
I must say that Karen Finney is fine as hell and I love her insights on the issues!
I also enjoy Joan Walsh, Joy Ann Reid (Ms. Harvard), David Corn, Ari Melber, Alex Wagner, E. J. Dionne, Chris Matthews, Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow, Al Sharpton.
I wish MSNBC would pry Jennifer Granholm away from Current TV.
I still pretty much find "The Cycle" MSNBC's worst show in the lineup.
When this election is over, I sure hope that MSNBC hires Obama Campaign Manager, Stephanie Cutter, as an analyst. Cutter is gorgeous and I've heard she's on our team. Cutter was the first one to call Mittens a liar!! Love her!!!
Who's got gossip? Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz obviously hate each other. Everyone kisses Rachel's ass since she's the breakout star. The rest of them are disposable.
I like Joy but she's way overexposed lately.
I don't understand that Rachel Maddow.
There are a lot of standouts at MSNBC. But of all the hosts and pundits, my favorite among all of them is Lawrence O'Donnell.
My (not so) secret (anymore) desire is to see Ari Melber and Ezra Klein together. My guess is that Ari would be the bottom. He is unbelievably hot. Ezra would talk/coach him through the entire process.
From the MSNBC Chris Hayes promo, it appears he is completely smooth. Doesn't appear to be a hair on his body. Give me Ari Melber any day.
I agree with you about Joy, r79.
[quote]Everyone kisses Rachel's ass since she's the breakout star.
Rachel was a breakout star back in 2008. Now she's a bona fide star of MSNBC. While I don't dislike the other shows, Rachel's show is the only one I watch consistently -- every night actually. 9PM is Rachel time for me. Then I try to catch a repeat of Granholm's show.
By the way, you can't judge MSNBC primetime shows the same as early morning, daytime or weekend. Different formats and different personalities suits different slots. Someone like Rachel can't do daytime because she's serious and nuanced for daytime viewers to absorb. Daytime has to be quick-paced and less nuanced.
R85. Rachel Maddow also needs the daytime to prepare for her nighttime show. Her opening monologue is not just nuanced, it's well researched and thoughtful with lots of facts and figures. And it sometimes last for 20 minutes--nearly a third of her show. No wonder that she's the star of MSNBC.
A great deal of Rachel's show is her. She does not entirely rely on a succcession of pundits who go through a series of Q&As.
I would let Ayman break my hymen any day!
Joy isn't over-exposed.
Her name is Joy-Ann Reid.
Loving Karen Finney!
What do we know about her? I don't think she's married and has no kids but I can't find anything else on her personal life...
I like Karen too. Ari is cute.
David Corn may be straight, but I don't know of anyone on MSNBC who has had as much plastic surgery:
Park Avenue Plastic Surgeon
^ He coulda got him some lips while he was at it.
I have a moist spot for/from Josh Barro; God bless Chris for having on so regularly.
I think there's some tension between Lawrence O'Donnell and Rachel Maddow. Friday night, one of Lawrence's guests said they were looking forward to watching him call the states for Obama on election night. Lawrence snidely replied, "Oh, no. It won't be me doing it. It will be Rachel Maddow running things, and I'll be off on the side somewhere." Meow.
Four years both L O'D and Rachel were on David Gregory's stupid show that had several pundits each day in a Hollywood Squares Tic Tac Toe formation -- he was INCREDIBLY rude to her, basically steamrolling the point she was trying to make so forcefully that she had to yell out, "Whoa, Tiger!" to get him to back off. It was really vile.
Not long after Obama's election, L O'D on his brand new program SWORE UP AND DOWN that according to his "unimpeachable sources in Congress" health care reform *WILL NOT HAPPEN*! It was a real "I HAVE SPOKEN!" moment. Ugh!
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Well, why would he blame Rachel when it was MSNBC executive decision? Why not snark at Chris? He's the one who has a full hour after the post-debate show all to himself.
I rather Rachel run things than O'Donnell. She's very even-tempered.
I remember election night 2004, Rachel was working on Air America at the time. When she had to announce that Bush had won re-election, she said matter-of-factly, "It looks like it's not going to happen tonight...."
Yeah. I've been listening to Rachel since 2004 when she had this little show that was on in the wee hours of the morning with Kent Jones. She was basically a news reader with commentary and analysis in between. She grew more popular and her show expanded.
Is this the same Karen Finney who used to cover herself in chocolate and stick yams up her pooter?
Nope, different Karen Finney R98
I would love to Make Ezra and Ari squeal
Ari Melber! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Rachel is making great points about FL voting debacle today.
I love Democracy Plaza!
It's gorgeous, uplifting, aesthetically pleasing.
Love how they've lit up the Rockefeller high rise building in red, white, and blue.
Rachel is right about Florida. The early-voting lines are outrageous and exactly what Repubs want.
I think it's great as much people can vote. However, early voting for a month or even two weeks is outrageous. We are already getting results. We have no idea how that affects later voters, if they become more or less motivated to vote. Another thing is many areas use electronic voting machines. The more time they are in use the more time hackers have to get in and switch results around.
Well, r106, the compromise between your concern that the results from early voting might effect election day voters would be for the states to not release the results of early voting. California is not releasing any results until election day.
The solution to the problem is to not cut hours or days for early voting (as GOP are doing), but to allow as many people to vote without forcing them to wait up to 8 hours (as in FL).
Unless he has outright said so, why is it assumed that Ari Melber is (necessarily) straight?
I don't understand why the black Pulitizer prize winning guy is an analyst on MSNBC.
Sorry, can't remember his name suddenly.
He never has anything insightful or interesting to say. Never.
He may be good with the written word for his columns, but he lacks any insight as a live guest on MSNBC.
I hope you don't mean Eugene Robinson??? He has A LOT to say! There's another black fellow they sometimes have on who seems to have little to do with politics and current events, basically saying something coherent enough, but far from insightful.
Ari Melber is dating some girl. I saw a photo online somewhere.
They were labled a power couple. I forget what her profession was though.
R109, are you talking about Dr. Michael Eric Dyson?
seriously r109? Eugene Robinson writes for the Washington Post and has covered politics for over almost 40 years. Who would you suggest is more qualified? Tucker Carlson?
Yes, sorry, but although Eugene Robinson has a winning personality and charm, I don't find anything he ever says to be insightful or worthwhile.
I love Dr. Michael Eric Dyson and find him very insightful, worthwhile, and interesting with a strong intellect.
I find Howard Fineman to have great insight and great analytical abilities.
Dyson does not have a Pulitzer
[quote]There's another black fellow they sometimes have on who seems to have little to do with politics and current events
Hope you're not thinking of Jonathan Capeheart.
R113, as I said, Eugene Robinson is excellent with the written word, but not good at all on TV.
Could someone explain why the dreadful, horrible guest, Ana Marie Cox, appears on MSNBC?
She is a complete waste of time and breath.
Funny enough r117, I'm starting to feel the same way about you. You doth protest a bit too much.
Is Cox on that often? I think I've seen her once. She is a bit ... out there from what I recall.
She is on right this minute, R119, and is on pretty regularly. (Sunday night, 9:52pm central time)
I can't imagine why anyone would be offended that someone points out that she is a zero, completely unqualified, and a total lightweight airhead, so R118 is an annoyance and must not have seen Ana Marie's consistent lightweight appearances.
(MSNBC is having special new episodes of many of their talk shows on Saturday and Sunday nights this weekend.
With the one they always say is "co-creator of The Daily Show," how come now they say "creator of The Dsily Show?"
With the one they always say is "co-creator of The Daily Show," how come now they say "creator of The Daily Show?"
Fixed that for me!
But what about Ari Melber? More, more!! When will he become my BF, etc. He is so handsome and sexy!
Ari Melber is scrumdiddlyumptious. He's my pundi-crush now that Chris Hayes officially looks like a lesbian and Ezra Klein has turned into an obnoxiously smug troll.
Ari Melber is wimpy!
I'd like to add:
As others have said, I'm enjoying Joy Reid. She was on Up with Chris Hayes yesterday and she raised several great points that idiots like Chuck Todd would never consider (why that dumbass is NBC's chief political correspondent is beyond comprehension).
Also, I can't stand Ed Schultz's show, or Al Sharpton's, but they're awesome panelists during special political coverage. Al adds a lot of insightful analysis and Ed will play devil's advocate in a way that's productive and thoughtful. Unfortunately, his pathetic polls on his show seem to be written by a 3rd grader.
Finally, I had to laugh when someone upthread accused Jonathan Capehart of trying too hard to be objective! He's actually a little too eager to defend the Obama administration sometimes, and he'd never be accused of being easy on Mitt Romney. The accusation that he's even a little conservative is laughable. That said, I've run across him in DC and he's a little midget diva! He's like 5'5" and he loooooooooooooves white men. His attitude is pretty repellant, but I guess a Pulitzer permits one to act like a bitchy queen.
I think Chuck Todd is super smart, very intelligent, and a real asset to NBC and MSNBC.
He presents interesting information and ideas, and has great presence and confidence.
Yes, Joy Reid is insightful and gives interesting points of view to be considered.
Wow, Jonathan Capeheart's boyfriend or partner of 10 years is gorgeous and an architect!
see photo of his partner
wow, I had no idea Capeheart would have such a gorgeous long term boyfriend
No, Chuck Todd merely parrots tidbits from Politico. He's one of the shameless dickheads who insisted on turning the presidential campaign into a horse race (going so far as to create scenarios where both candidates get 270 electoral votes, which had him turning blue states red).
another photo of Jonathan Capeheart's partner of 10 years
Rachel is the anchor that lays the intellectual base, Ed and Reverend Al are sort of our answer to Rush I guess. I find both agreeable but shrill and I have to turn after a short time. I just like Lawrence, he's an interesting mix of Rachel and Ed.
Love, love, love Rev. Al as a panelist. As a host, not so much.
I swear sometimes I can not tell the difference between Maddow and Hayes. Their their voices and manner of speaking, their mannerisms. It's like Hayes is some sort of understudy to a Maddow role. Maddow had better watch out, I think some kind of All About Eve shit is going down with that Hayes guy. For real. Watch the dude sometime and tell me if he's not absolutely Maddow-with-a-cock.
I love Steve Kornacki but loathe S.E. Cupp, so I cannot watch The Fix.
I loathe that sour asshole Joe Scarborough too, I don't know how so many people here can watch him every day.
I love Hardball with Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow's show; those are the two I try to watch every day. (But while I love Rachel's opening monologue, the amount of ads vs. little content over the next 40 minutes can drive me nuts).
I've recently come to like Alex Wagner very much and watch her when I have time.
Have a hard time putting up with Rev. Al and Ed yelling at me like they're not aware they have microphones. And I agree that Ed's polls are beyond ludicrous each & every night.
I expected to love Up With Chris Hayes but his manic energy, speed talking and hyper-knowledge of every arcane issue wears me down really fast.
Conversely, I've grown much more fond of MHP than I anticipated.
I think Ezra Klein is smart but a snooze (especially as a fill-in for Rachel). Ari Melber is adorable.
Other Panelists: love Richard Wolfe, Jonathan Alter, John Heileman (love his specs & checked shirts too), David Corn and Howard Fineman (usually).
I used to appreciate Chuck Todd as a straightforward, interesting guy. But this year I feel like he's become a bitter asshole determined to propel Romney while putting down Obama every chance he gets. I really hope Chuck has to suck it on election night.
I saw Richard Wolffe in Las Vegas during the NV Primary in 2008. He looked exactly the same as he does on TV. He looked straight at me. I think he was observing all the Hillary supporters cheering the voters on at Caesar's Palace.
He's a handsome man.
Chuck Todd used to be a favorite of the White House, especially when Robert Gibbs was the press secretary, but they seem to have had a falling out in the past year.
CNN also turned anti-Obama about the same time that Gibbs left his job as press secretary.
Maybe it's time for Jay Carney to go.
[R141] -- I like Heilemann's checked shirts as well, though he's a real fox pure n simple; the dudes here can keep that wimpy Melber.
[R140] -- I don't get the deal you're going afer regarding Maddow and Hayes? Are you saying he's nice to her, but would stab her in the back to get her slot? They're both rather androgynous people I agree.
John Heilemann would look great in leather.
No R140, just being facetious.. I'm just saying they guy IS her. If I were her, I'd be a little freaked if guy on my show acted so much like me that is was noticeable to the audience. Freaky.
S E Cupp and Andrew Sullivan are going to be on Bill Maher together this week. The combination really, REALLY makes my head hurt thinking about it!
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Joe Scarborough has been absolutely insufferable now that Romney is losing. This morning Mika was trying to read a story on the voting problems reported in Florida, and he kept smugly whispering "Benghazi..." It was completely inappropriate.
God I pray that Obama wins re-election. But there is a part of me that also wants Obama to win just to see all the MSNBC GOPers like Chuck Todd, Joe Scarborough, S.E. Cupp, and Tom Brokaw's heads explode.
And watch them all claim that it was just the hurricane that propelled Obama to victory!
Couldn't just be that voters were so sick of Romney lying every damned second of the day?
Who slipped Rachel the happy pills? She seems positively giddy about tomorrow.
That last segment about preparation for tomorrow was adorable. Rachel ends the show with a goofy red beer hat on her head and says, "Your country needs you. Plan ahead."
[quote]Who slipped Rachel the happy pills? She seems positively giddy about tomorrow.
She gets like that during any election, but especially during the Big One. She's said it's like civics nerd Christmas Morning to her.
Someone upthread said that Eugene Robinson doesn't add much to the conversation. I feel the same way about Dan Rather. Whenever he's a guest on TRMS, he does nothing to enlighten me on the subject. Nothing insightful from a man who has been covering the news since before Kennedy was in office.
[quote]God I pray that Obama wins re-election. But there is a part of me that also wants Obama to win just to see all the MSNBC GOPers like Chuck Todd, Joe Scarborough, S.E. Cupp, and Tom Brokaw's heads explode.
Along with the lop-sided heads of Michael Steele, Steve Schmidt. Andrea Mitchell, Mark Halperin, Ron Christie, and David Gregory.
Tired old bags of shit.
don't boo, vote! Please.
R154, I don't know how I could have forgotten the names on your list!
David Gregory is the reason I have all but stopped watching "Meet The Press."
Halperin, since the campaign started, does NOTHING at all but spew Romney campaign talking points.
And Andrea Mitchell with her senseless GOP talk and false equivalency nonsense!
Thank Jesus, Ron Christie is not on very often. What beligerent, trouble-making Uncle Tom douchebag.
i, too, love ari melber and think he would look amazing out of his suits...one thing that really bugs, though, is his head movements. The way he tilts his head in a very clipped manner, then blinks, reminds me of a lizard. I half-expect a giant tongue to whip out an catch a fly...
And can the make-up person at MSNBC please lay off the orange foundation for Lawrence O'Donnell? It is so distracting in HD to see all that orange face, and that ashy-grey neck.
[quote]Someone upthread said that Eugene Robinson doesn't add much to the conversation. I feel the same way about Dan Rather. Whenever he's a guest on TRMS, he does nothing to enlighten me on the subject. Nothing insightful from a man who has been covering the news since before Kennedy was in office.
I totally agree. In fact, he's something of a concern troll.
and i do not understand why John Fuglesang is allowing Ron Christie to appear on his Current TV show. god do i hate ronnie!
Did everyone see Matthews' apology today? I've never seen anyone so worked about something!
Ari Melber looks kind of like a bobblehead doll when others are talking.
I saw Andrea Mitchell in HD last night. The horror. The horror.
Andrea Mitchell is the Edward James Olmos of network news.
How is the Cupp lady bearing up throughout this ordeal?
Speaking of Mizz Cupp -- she outdid herself today! (
Hint: Dems let Bush let this mess happen)
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-Absolutely adore Rachel,Chris,Meliss,Ezra and Lawrence.
-I use to like Chuck and enjoyed him when speaking with Robert Gibbs. Now him and Howard Fineman really turn me off. Remember their Repug friends that told them they felt secure about Ohio?
-Martin is growing on me. He knows how to throw shade and I'm luvin it.
-They should give Rev Al and Ed a show together. I do enjoy them I know they mean well.
-I grew up listening to Chris I >3 him . I think the President has disappointed him on some personal level. I know how much of a stan he is for him. He never stopped supporting him and I like how he called the Repugs out the blatant racism.
-The Cycle is growing one me. Even Toure and S.E. Steve is too cute. I like Crystal.
-Eugene,Herbert,Bob and Joe a(the other black man) I like them.
-Ron Christie is embarassing.
-Why don't they have Harold Ford and Michael Steele on Morning Joe? I actual like Michael.
I love them all except S.E. Cupp, Chuck Todd, and Joe Scarbarough.
I want to marry Richard Lui.
Joy Ann Reid has been stellar.
Classic moment: She was on a panel with one of the talkers who thinks he knows everything, some white guy who was saying that black people in Florida were disenchanted with Obama this year compared to 2008, and she handled it just right. She said she disagreed and then when the guy tried to dismiss her opinion she pointed out that she has "spent a lot of time around black people in Florida" but was very gentle about it. The guy looked like a tool, but she tried to help him realize what he was saying before he went further and looked even worse. Hers would be a show I'd watch. Maybe just turn "The Grio" into a television show.
Karen Finney and Melissa Harris-Perry are both biracial. Karen Finney talked about her parents' marriage and how it was once illegal for them to marry, comparing it to the gay marriage debate today.
Chuck Todd does not have a clean, inviting anus...
Willie Geist just had his last show on Way Too Early this morning. He is now going to be part of the Today show during the last hour.
168 - Joy Reid corrected former PA Gov Ed Rendell. I saw that. Joy is great.
Melissa H-P is mixed race? Interesting as I find her to be somewhat anti-white myself - there aren't any specific things she has said so much as her "blacks as victims" mentality in the way she presents things. I find her commentary generally useless. My opinion is that MHP is the past, and Joy Ann Reid is the future.
Richard Lui is hot hot hot!
Alex Wagner is so WATCHABLE! I enjoy her more and more. She seems giddy about stories and her infectious delivery makes me want to hear everything she has to say. She seems so smart and fun, and not so deadly serious about everything.
Joy Reid is also my new favorite. She's so smart and matter of fact about....FACTS. I love her rather ordinary looks, she is relatable in a way the glamourpusses aren't. She really shines when she talks about issues, because she actually knows what she's talking about!
Chris Hayes gets SO worked up and starts sputtering and says things that are sort of true but never mentioned on tv. I love him for that. He isn't good at making friends with the other panelists, which I find refreshing.
I love Ed Shultz! The progressive movement needs angry, cranky, pro-labor white men to focus on red meat issues. Although he doesn't go down smoothly, I love his punchy mid-west flavor.
You have to admit, the Rev. Al Sharpton has gotten a lot better. To be candid, I find his insights often the clearest, and often the most astute. His bio is far more than the Tawana Brawley case, and those who just shriek that still after 25 years, need to get over it. I'm sure he believed her. Big deal. Plus, I caught him mis-pronouncing "Eastern Seaboard", as "Eastern Seaborg" last week, and now I worship him!
Ari Melber needs to ask the make-up lady to put make-up on his neck, not just his face. His face is golden and glowing and his neck is pasty, pink and full of shaving nicks. He does have a bobble-head delivery, but I like him. He seems very ambitious, which makes his delivery self-conscious sometimes.
I have loved Rachel since her first Air America radio show "Unfiltered", with Lizz Winstead, and Chuck D. It was the best show on that short-lived network, and was canceled far before they went under.
R171, you are right, it was Ed Rendell. I don't dislike Rendell, but he needed to learn some respect, and he did.
I am very conflicted about Al Sharpton. He does have interesting insight, and I don't mind his awkward delivery at all. He's likeable and does good work, especially with voting rights. But it's also not like his insane Tawana Brawley days are that far behind him. Not that long ago, he went down to Florida to advocate on BEHALF of a group of young men who committed a horrific gang rape on a mother and son (and yes they did and forced all the worst things imaginable). The mother and her son are Haitians, so why he took sides for black rapists against black victims in that case I will never understand. It wasn't even a matter of innocence, just Al protesting that the rapists were being treated "too harshly." Hard for me to forgive him for that one.
Watching MHP is like sitting in a women's studies class. She doesn't have anything insightful to say and I constantly feel like she's lecturing to the audience. She's a bore.
The Ed Show is now number 2 behind O'Reilly and AHEAD of Anderson Cooper 360!
I like MHP.
Lawrence O'Donnell is so right on with the issues. I love the fact that he's knowledgable. That's important.
I luv Joy Ann Reid too.
Joy Reid is smart and insightful. I really like her.
Joy Reid should have her own show asap!
[quote]Melissa H-P is mixed race? Interesting as I find her to be somewhat anti-white myself - there aren't any specific things she has said so much as her "blacks as victims" mentality in the way she presents things.
Mixed race blacks can be very militant about race. Black icons like Malcolm X and Bob Marley were actually multi-racial.
[quote] Mixed race blacks can be very militant about race.
Perhaps they have some insight worth listening to?
[quote]Perhaps they have some insight worth listening to?
Or perhaps they just have internal shit they are working out in public?
I guess we'll never know.
MHP isn't remotely militant.
Now even the GUESTS are listhping!
Joy-Ann Reid is very pretty.
She's not militant in the way that Sharpton and Jackson might be - she plays the blacks-as-victims game appealing to white liberal guilt.
Chris Hayes has a sexy hairy chest. I saw him with an open collar on MSNBC and it was heaven!
I also thank Chris Hayes for introducing us to Josh Barro, openly gay, smart as hell and HOT/Adorable!
Joy Reid is the breakout of 2012.
I cannot watch Rev Al & Ed because by that time of day I am newsed out. But I come back for Rachel & the smartest man on TV Laurence!
I like MHP and really like Chuck Todd because he does know his stuff and plays it down the middle. He is a great analyst.
SE Cupp is to dumb for MSNBC. Crystal Ball & Steve Kornacki have to explain every little thing to her and she rarely is able to understand what they are talking about. She would fit in better on Fox & Friends.
I even like Uncle Joe Scarborough. He does get stuck in the Neocon Theology and talking points most of the time. Some times he drops the veil and admits that he is full of shit. He is a likeable knucklehead. Love Mika, Barnacle, Heilmann & Capeheart (when he dances with Mika)
Come on! You know you want to give Ari Melber the best b.j. he's ever had!
Rumors that Ed Schultz may lose his show to Ezra Klein.
"Several MSNBC employees, who spoke about programming plans on the condition of anonymity, said the most likely candidate for a new show was the Washington Post columnist Ezra Klein, a frequent substitute for Ms. Maddow. Mr. Klein may start with a weekend time slot, but these people said the 8 p.m. weekday time slot held by Mr. Schultz was also a possibility.”
Ezra isn't interesting enough to carry his own show: he's sort of one-note and can be quite boring and besides, there's no reason to replace Ed Schultz. MSNBC is going to alienate its older viewers if the network keeps hiring younger hosts. If anyone is waiting in the wings it's Joy Reid who should be next in line for a hosting position.
I wasn't very impressed with Up! and MHP this weekend, disappointed in their post-election coverage. Let's see if they can retain their earlier momentum.
Not that I like Ed Schultz or anything, but Ezra Klein is pretty dry. When he subs for Rachel, he's pretty dull. Monotonous and too serious.
Ed Schultz has great appeal with the working class/blue collar type Dem viewers. He covered the whole Scott Walker recall for weeks.
Why can't they woo Jennifer Granholm? She's the Rachel Maddow of Current TV. Current TV is up for sale and she may be needing a new job.
Al Sharpton needs to lose his job. He has no business being on MSNBC or any news organization. Maybe Granholm could take his slot.
[quote]I like MHP and really like Chuck Todd because he does know his stuff and plays it down the middle. He is a great analyst.
Chuck Todd was part of the media that tried to gin up the election as being too close to call. He thinks he knows what he's talking about but he doesn't. One of the on-air poll "analyst" who pretty much said that anyone who thinks they can predict the election (read Nate Silver) doesn't know what they're talking about.
I hate Chuck Todd but, unfortunately, if you watch MSNBC, you can't get away from him. He's ubiquitous.
Rev. Al would better serve MSNBC as an "elder statesman" a la Ed Rendell, who appears daily on virtually every show in the lineup. Other than a breaking news story, Sharpton's producers don't seem to present him with any new or provocative material--they simply rehash that day's news.
He's one of today's best political pundits but, as far as his show's content, every day is a slow news day.
Ditto on the no love for Chuck Todd. I wonder how his show's ratings fare for his timeslot (I certainly don't watch it).
Bitch belongs on Fox.
I like Ezra Klein, but MSNBC needs the populist perspective Ed Schultz offers. He is my least favorite, but if he's going to be replaced it shouldn't be with some wonky intellectual.
[italic]National Enquirer:[/italic] Cher has a crush on Chris Hayes
I seem to be one of the few who finds O'Donnell downright smug and obnoxious, and desperate to be relevant (based on his "insider connections").
I've mentioned by 'Dar is lousy, and Chris Hayes sets it off like an air raid siren -- false positive I guess?
Ezra is boring enough when he appears briefly as a guest, let alone hosting stuff.
Rachel is by far the smartest host of political/news show on any network. I echo the opinion that Joy Reid should have her own show....really enjoy her. I think Alex Wagner is HOT and smart, but the way she drools over Heileman and Halperin (Emmy-winning) makes me sick.
Rev Al is drying up before our very eyes! He makes me think of a hairless cat.
Ezra Klein is ok as a guest, but I think he would fucking suck as a full time host.
I would rather watch Bill O and his bullshit over Klein.
[R202] I drool over Heilemann also
Ezra is a good numbers guy as a guest but is horrible when he subs for Rachel Maddow as the host.
You'd find more energy in your local nursing home!
Ed can be a little rough around the edges, but I like him. Like so many others have mentioned he is a great representative of blue-collar America that makes up a large segment of our nation!
MSNBC issued a statement after the article referenced above appeared on Mediate to say that "they are very pleased with their primetime lineup and have no plans to make any changes to it."
Aren't Ed's numbers quite good? Why would they replace him with somebody as boring as Ezra Klein?
Forgot to add that Chris Hayes' show UP needs to be re-vamped because Chris is very lack luster in his presentation of the material. His show generally has great guests and graphics, but Chris does not present the material in an interesting manner.
In the teaching profession it is not enough to present the students with information and facts, but you must also make the material interesting for the students to want to learn it and be interested in the subject matter. This is where Chris Hayes FAILS miserably IMO!
I don't know if they can work with Chris so that he can be a better presenter of the material though? I'm afraid if Chris stays on his current track, his show will eventually get cancelled.
Also a fan of Heileman. Something about him melts my butter.
R207, yes Ed's numbers are solid nightly.
If you go to Mediate and read this so-called article about Ed Schultz, you will pick up a GOP bias in the reporter.
For instance he uses phrases like "populist rage" to describe Ed and "MSNBC is far more liberal than FOX News is conservative" to describe MSNBC.
Apparently, there is no truth to this rumor about MSNBC wanting to find someone new for Ed's timeslot.
They issued a statement after this article was put out stating that they are very pleased with their primetime lineup and have NO plans to change the lineup.
Fuck Todd has a face for radio.
Only morons who are so stupid they can't form their own opinions based on the facts watch this crap. It's pathetic to be spoonfed opinions you proclaim as your own. You're no different than Limbaugh's cretins.
But Ari Melber hot and sexy and Steve K. is so cute ans smart!
Only morons who come into threads and insinuate that people who watch msnbc can't form their own opinions are even BIGGER morons. Last time I checked this is america so we can watch whatever channel we choose.
I like Ezra alot. But he would be trounced if he went up against big mouth O'reily and Anderson Cooper.Ed pulls in very respectable numbers to give MSNBC a very solid second place in nightly ratings.
Ed appeals to blue collar democrats and has solid ratings so I think he's safe. I enjoy some of his guests, like that Ohio state senator, Nina Turner. The left is diverse, not just the wonkiest intellectuals should be on.
What I heard is, Ezra might get a weekend show.
Steve K has a wonderful, moist, wonky and inviting anus....
As predicted, Ed threw a fit about the rumor of his replacement on his radio show. He's a blowhard.
Replace him and Al Sharpton.
They should give Lynn Berry a weekend show. She has subbed for Alex Witt in the past. She does a great job on Early Today and First Look during the weekdays.
Ed is a blowhard, but they need someone like him on the roster.
Also, complete agreement on Nina Turner. Love her. Did you see when she and our favorite Joy Ann Reid were both on the show? One of them (Joy Ann?) said they were to prove "we really are two different people."
I love them both. I'll have to look that clip up.
What in all that is right in the world was SE Cupp doing on Morning Joe filling in for Mika. Does someone at MSNBC really think that America needs SE's dance/art history educated opinions on Israel and Hamas?
Please eradicate this no nothing from MSNBC
I would agree that the weekend morning shows (both Hayes's and Harris-Perry's) could stand to be punched up, or maybe totally revamped.
I like both hosts well enough, but two back-to-back panel shows that tilt toward the "egg-heady" are a bit much. It's great to see academics on television, and there should be a place for more a intellectual discourse than we usually get from cable, but it should also be at least somewhat entertaining.
Rachel gets this balance just about right every night.
Nina Turner said last night that she may be running for Ohio Secretary of State. Woo-hoo! I'd love to see her in Congress too.
I have now decided that Sam Stein has the most warm, inviting anus of all...
Sam Stein is a seductress.
Nina Turner is too much.
I love it when Krystal Ball shows up on Lawrence O'Donnell, Martin Bashir, and Politics Nation too. I believe she is using the Cycle as a stepping stone for something better.
S.E. Cupp is so vile and disrespectful. The Cycle was just interviewing Sister Simone Campbell and S.E. was so nasty to her. What happened to common respect?!? She needs to be removed from this program. She is acting just like Elisabeth Hasselback from the View. Maybe they should have a show together...on FOX!
S.E. Cupp is shameful
Another who doesn't enjoy "C" Cupp.
Is Nina Turner a lesiban? She was making the moves on Jennifer Granholm when she was on her show.
The next time conservatives whine about MSNBC hiring nothing but liberals, please remind them about this chick. Scarborough can be moderate sometimes, other times a blowhard. But S.E. Cupp?! She's unhinged all the time. I have to wonder what Steve Kornacki thinks of her. Andrew Sullivan obviously doesn't like her judging how the two bumped heads last week on Real Time.
SE was rude to Sister Simone today. It was pathetic. I really like Krystal Ball. How was Nina Turner coming on to Jennifer Granholm?
S.E. Cupp went into the lion's den of liberal TV news. I'm wondering if she can handle it for the long haul. It will be an uphill climb for her because the other three are liberal and one is an angry black man ready to pounce if she dare says anything untoward about Obama.
R236's breasts are very wet and fat.
She certainly was, r235.
Toure is annoying, but he's not an angry black man.
What do you suppose the MSNBC Office Holiday Party is like?
Mika, staring longly at the hors d'oeuvres?
Chris Matthews, drunker than usual, face flushed and weeping over JFK?
Thomas Roberts forgetting he's a newlywed and trying to get into Steve Kornacki's pants?
Mike Barnacle and Ed Schultz getting into a wrestling match over who's more blue-collar?
The Voice of the Night
I have a feeling that Thomas Roberts would snub Steve Kornacki in real life.
Kornacki is decent looking, but definitely not in the "pretty boy" league.
Thomas has a delightful, warm, salty and musky anus...
S.E. Cupp is still being disrespectful to her co hosts on the Cycle.
Watching S.E. Cupp is painful. She used to be attractive but her current hair color and style (another poster said that she looked like a Mennonite prostitute) and the hipster librarian glasses make her look harsh and cartoonish.. Her teeth also need a good cleaning. And then there is her voice. Just the most unpleasant sound this side of a car alarm. Shit can Toure and Cupp on the Cycle. Bring on Jonathan Capeheart and the cute Conservative black chick who is always on Bill Maher's show and maybe this show will be watchable. I loved Kornacki's rant against John McCain on today's show. Absolutely on the mark.
SE Cupp reminds me of one of those bitter trashy trailer park girls. The ones who want so very much to be pretty like themother girl on the show but it's just not possible.
SHE'S A FUCKING BALLET DANCER!
The Mennonite Prostitute thing referred to the INCREDIBLY frumpy getup she on for Bill Maher's show the other night, when Andrew Sullivan and James Carville were guests, too.
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Keep that hipster turd off Morning Joe, for fuck sakes. She's an absolute embarrassment to MSNBC. I would rather listen to Steve Schmidt or Michael Steele than this brainless throaty horror.
What did SE do to her hair? It looks awful.
I nominate Luke Russert for most boring TV person.
Thomas Roberts looks like he doesn't wipe well.
Krystal Ball is pretty.
Chris Hayes looks like a middle age lesbian
Ezra Klien is adorable.
The MSNBC gay men: Thomas Roberts, Steve Kornacki, and Ayman Mohyeldin.
Am I missing anyone?
I'm not really familiar with MSNBC's daytime line-up. Not home to watch them. In the evening, I'm only familiar with Chris Matthews and Rachel. Rachel's show is the only one I watch every evening. Guess I'm not an MSNBC junkie.
I'm going to be seeing Rachel at one of her book tours in March. Very excited.
Not MSNBC, but cute Palestinian Ahmed Shihab-Eldin of Huffpost Live, formerly of Al Jazeera, seems very gay to me. My gaydar never fails so does anyone know if I'm right or wrong?
Your gaydar does not fail you, R261 - Ahmed Shihab-Eldin is definitely gay.
Care to share any details r262?
R261 -- Chris Hayes is SO gay-appearing to me, does he ping your never-fail 'Dar?
SE Cupp is a lier. If you listen closely to the way her assertions, you'll catch her occasionally making something up, or distorting something completely. It pisses me off that her co-hosts don't ever stop-the-presses and draw attention to her shameless dishonesty.
Chris Hayes is definitely gay. He may not have ever even kissed a boy before, but he is as gay as they come. He once responded to a guest's comments about a gay strip club, and he sounded giddy; but that's not the only clue I've seen. Come-out, Chris! We don't bite! Not too deeply, anyway!
I don't know if Ahmed S-E is gay, but either way he's hot af.
Ii thought Hayes has a bother who is gay, so I don't think he'd bother with a sham marrriage and a baby.