The screenplay reeks of film school and the religious symbolism will make your eyes bleed, but Denzel's performance in "Flight" is one of his best. It's also a very good movie about addiction.
The crash scene is one of the most compelling ever filmed; people in the theater were leaning forward in their seats as it happened.
Another film that appears to have benefitted from the Georgia Tax Credit, Atlanta actually appears to becoming a symbol for a certain bleakness in modern life.
He's going to have to be great in something other than an earnest, intense, prone-to-tears role. He's a great actor, but that's its like Julia Roberts playing another dumb whore.
Based on the reviews I've seen so far, he's definitely a major contender, perhaps more than Daniel Day-Lewis. Hollywood loves a redemption story.
This is another movie designed for black audiences that won't see it. It will bomb at the box office. Many black people complain that Hollywood doesn't make films about upstanding black people. Here is another film about one and black people won't see it. There was a film about a black swim team, black spelling bee champ, two about black WWII soldiers and a few others I can't remember now that were made in the last 8 years that have all bombed.
Ummm... the character in "Flight" isn't upstanding. He's a deeply flawed man on a downward spiral.
But thanks for race baiting! I was wondering how long into the thread it would take before we got one of you!
R4, yes he goes through a downward spiral but manages to overcome it. Get your facts straight before flinging accusations.
R3 does have a point.
R5 I saw the movie one freaking hour ago and you're telling me to get my facts straight?
What point does r3 have? R3 is blatantly racist. "Black people won't see this movie, they don't know what's good for them."
This is why I hate us.
Does anyone think they're really going to give Washington or Day-Lewis a THIRD Oscar?
R4 Denzel's character saves a plane from crashing and does extraordinary things in the process like flying it upside down. Yes, he's a drug addict. But he saved lives.
I doubt it R7.
After the numerous film critics' orgs have their say, then we'll have a better pov.
John Hawkes will most likely get a nomination, as will Daniel Day-Lewis, and most likely, Anthony Hopkins. But it's still way too early.
Surely R3 realizes that blacks comprise only about 10% of the population.
If anyone bailed on those movies , it had to be white film-goers.
Denzel will not win a third Oscar. He won his second Oscar for one of the most dreadful films ever to win a major Oscar ("Training Day", total crap).
Jack Nicholson, three Oscars, count 'em, THREE
saw it fine performance just ok film not gonna win him another Oscar
How long ago was it that they gave a spate of awards to black actors? We might be due for another round.
I hope Anthony Hopkins won't receive a nom for giving us Lecter-on-speed in "Hitchcok". He sounds nothing like AH.
Can an actor be more self-satisfied than Hopkins?
Joaquin Phoenix will surely still get a nomination for The Master, he was considered an early frontrunner until he stupidly told the press that all awards are bullshit. They definitely won't give a third Oscar to either Washington or Day-Lewis. I'm guessing that, amid general apathy over the Best Actor slate, either Hopkins or more likely a wild card like John Hawkes could win.
I totally agree about "Training Day", r12. And Hopkins looks and sounds AWFUL in the "Hitchcock" trailer.
It's very possible. Denzel's overrated, but he is very solid in Flight. I had to watch a cut of the film in the spring and I was impressed.
hey R4/R6, is it any good?
Lots of people have won Oscars and then dropped off the face of the earth. Cuba Gooding Jr., Roberto Benigni, Jean Dujardin, Marlee Matlin, Marion Cotillard, Helen Hunt, Frances McDormand.
Does anybody really care who wins?
I read an interview where he refused to answer when asked (more than once) about his stand on gay marriage, so I assume he's opposed to it. That's hurt my opinion of him tremendously.
He's very one-note as an actor. He plays the same role with minor variations, and gets praise for it. He's just a one-trick pony.
Please, no. He only won for Training Day over guilt that he lost for The Hurricane. If the Academy is going for a three-peat, it will be Day-Lewis in Lincoln. Otherwise, Hawkes, Murray or Hopkins will win.
He's hoovering down cocaine and getting drunk in the very first scene, r3. He flies the plane while wasted.
He's not upstanding.
The NY TIMES and several other papers have given the film very bad reviews, and don't think Denzel is at his best in it either....
No nomination this year, DW - Sorry, brutha!
The Times gave it a Critic's Pick, you freaking dumbass.
Nope, Denzel already won for "Training Day". It's pretty much Daniel Day Lewis for "Lincoln".
Denzel has two Oscars already, he's not getting another one (at least not for this year).
Not only is it not his turn, he is not generally well-liked and this *is* a popularity contest.
I have read that Flight is a very mediocre, predictable movie, and while Denzel is very good, there's nothing special at all. The whole thing, including his performance, is very cliche.
I'm a fan. I love to watch him work, but he is always a variation of Denzel. He is very talented. For me, the subtlety he showed playing Frank Lucas in American Gangster was very underappreciated. He performed brilliantly in that role.
Hurricane and American Gangster are his absolute best. But I did love him in Training Day and Glory. He was good in Taking Pelham 123, too.
I think Bill Murray for FDR is worth a nomination and even though Lincoln is not very good, Daniel Day Lewis will get one. I have heard Bradley Cooper and Jamie Foxx will get nominations. Cooper for Silver Linings Playbook, and Jamie for Django. You have to keep an eye on Harvey Weinsten to see who he wants.
Supporting actor noms will include Robert De Niro for Silver Linings, Leo De Caprio for Django, John Goodman & Alan Arkin for Argo.Do keep track of these predictions I want to win something when the noms come out.
You guys are nuts if you think Hugh Jackman won't be nominated for Les Mis.
Denzel was outstanding in this movie, but John Goodman stole the show.
No. Denzel does not deserve a third Oscar. Look how look it took Meryl "The Greatest Actress In The History of the Cinema" ™ Streep to win her third Oscar. If it took the Grand Dame herself over twenty years to win her third, I seriously doubt Denzel Washington will win his third one so soon.
It's fitting that he plays a pilot in the film because his acting has been on auto-pilot for the last ten years. Nothing but one sorry performance after another. He rarely challenges himself, and like his contemporary Lady Streep, he has gotten too comfortable with the Hollywood legendary status in which he relies too much on a gimmick to prove he's doing something innovative. ("Oh my, Denzel plays a druggy pilot who actually fucks a white girl on camera for the first time!!! It's a must see!!!") It's about as overly conceptualized and per-designed for Oscar approval as those numerous European accents that Lady Streep has mastered.
Bill Murray may win it because many thought he would win it for "Lost In Translation."
I hope Hopkins gets nominated just to give the Streep Turd a heart attack.
Meryl win best actor this year.
He's a great actor and really sexy. Out of Time, my favorite.
Does he screw a white woman in this one really? I was under the impression that he'd vowed never to play romantically opposite a white actress or have sex scenes with one. Almost as firm on it as he is about not playing gay, ever.
R38 he has love scenes with a white AND a Hispanic actress in "Flight."
The white guilt has dissipated no more black winners for a while. Believe me I know.
What about the flight attendant with the foot in the aisle...Does she say anything? She deserves a nod just for the way she puts her foot out.
Denzel is supposed to be a big believer in the casting couch as well as having long-term mistresses.
He's also supposed to be genuinely unpleasant to be around.
If Denzel were cheating with the flight Attendant with the foot in the aisle I'd understand it.
[quote]Joaquin Phoenix will surely still get a nomination for The Master, he was considered an early frontrunner until he stupidly told the press that all awards are bullshit.
The Master crashed and burned, no one liked it, those that actually came out to see it of course. No Oscar noms for them except maybe cinematography for shooting in the now novelty of 70MM.
Denzel is a lock for a nomination as well as Lewis. Jackman is the one to beat. First nomination, popular with the Academy and a sung through musical to boot.
Saw it last night. Agree that he'll be nominated. And for those who say the NY Times panned it, think again. Dargis overpraised it in her rave.
Why no oscar love for Langella in Robot and Frank? Slight movie but delightful performance.
So what was the deal with the Bryce Dallas Howard/Jessica Chastain clone playing the whore with the heart of gold? I love Hollywood; when a star isn't available or is too expensive there's always a lookalike who will do it and will do it for less.
Bryce Howard and Jessica Chastain are stars?
I think John Hawks will be nominated.
Jimmy Fallon said Denzel shows his butt in the movie. True?
Remember the early 2000s when 3 men fucked up the natural order of things at the Oscars? Denzel should have won in 99 for The Hurricane, but he lost to Kevin Spacey. The next year, Ed Harris should've won for Pollock, but he lost to Russel Crowe for Gladiator. The following year, Russell Crowe should've won for a Beautiful Mind, but he lost to Denzel for Training Day (one of his weakest performances).
This year could be interesting if Denzel and Russell are nominated again (with either Denzel or Daniel Day Lewis making history).
R41, "foot-in-the-aisle" flight attendant has a fairly substantial role at the start of the film, plus you get to see her full-frontal nekkid.
Unfortunately, you probably won't be happy with the fate that awaits "foot-in-the-aisle" flight attendant as the film progresses.
I think they'd give Daniel a third,Hopkins a second,or Hawkes his first Oscar before giving Denzel a third.
And can anyone say that awarding Kevin Spacey TWO Oscars really did anything for his career? He seems to have peaked with American Beauty,and that was 13 years ago...
The first scene, IIRC, is Denzel and foot-in-the-aisle girl fucking and drugging. I haven't seen it since April or so.
It is a very good performance by Denzel, who lets it all hang out and is willing to play a really pathetic addict. And the first 30 mins are great. It's already overrated critically and the final scene is too pat, but it is easily his best, least smug performance in years and probably Bob Zemeckis's best work since Forrest Gump. It's not a masterwork by any means but it's worth a night out.
But what about Justin Timberlake!? He DESERVES an Oscar! He's an AMAZING actor! It's his "craft."
Saying something is Zemekis' best work since Forrest Gump is damning with faint praise, indeed.
The year 2000 was one of the toughest years ever for the Best Actor category. The nominees were 4 of the greatest actors of that generation: Kevin Spacey, Denzel Washington, Russell Crowe, and Sean Penn. All of whom went on to win Best Actor Oscars. Also nominated was beloved character actor Richard Farnsworth. Anyone could have won but the Oscar went to Kevin Spacey.
Even though Kevin deserved the Oscar, Denzel was furious. Word around Hollywood was that this was his Oscar for "The Hurricane". Moreover, Denzel was understanding when Al Pacino won over him but not when Kevin won. Therefore, in the "Training Day" Oscar campaign, Denzel said that Hollywood went into shock when he did not win in 2000. And then Kevin was furious.
Supposedly there is no love lost between Kevin Spacey and Denzel Washington -- they can't stand each other. Denzel thinks Kevin is a liar (boy toys) and Kevin thinks Denzel is a hypocrite (mistresses). Don't expect to see them in a movie together anytime soon.
Agree R57. I myself would say "... since Cast Away."
I eat dogshit I pick up off the streep.
john Goodman may be able to get an Oscar nomination on the strength of this and "Argo."
THere is a scene on a porn set where there is a male performer who is very muscular and goodlooking. He disrobes and reveals and incredible body from the back. Anyone know how to find out who this extra is?
I was shocked to see how Denzel's body has gone downhill. Hopefully, it was only for this role, but the audience sort of gasped when he disrobed. Shocking...
So, I saw "Flight" this weekend. meh. Denzel, likewise - meh.
This thread was clearly started by a shill. There is zero interest in this schlock fest.
Yet another movie where Denzel Washington is cast as some 'victim' who's also a hero.
Wanna really see him try to act? Cast him as a villain. Then again, American filmmakers won't cast major black actors as villains.
Denzel needs to hit the gym
Racist assholes at R64 and R65 - you seem to stumbled on this site by mistake. Wouldn't you feel more at home on the Stormfront site? You bitches are seething with hatred because Denzel is a front runner for the Best Actor trophy.
r67 you're full of SHIT.
First of all, am I cannot be the only one who found FLIGHT to be inherently racist. The black man saves over 100 people because of his incredible talents at flying, yet still winds up in prison because of drug and alcohol addiction. Sorry, this movie paints blacks in a bad light. I'm shocked Denzel even did this flick. Is there a reason they picked a black man to play a drug addict?
Second of all, the script is laughable. Truly laugh out loud awful at times. The acting for the most part is a goddamn joke, and even though Denzel saves the plane from crashing and burning, he can't do the same with the movie itself.
FLIGHT is the second stupidest Oscar buzzed movie I've seen this year, right after that piece of shit THE MASTER. Except THE MASTER wasn't as outrageously offensive.
r64 here. Denzel has done MUCH better work in at least a half dozen other movies in his career, so you can cut the "racist" shit, r67.
Streep gets first consideration for the choice roles. Other actresses could give more memorable performances but Streep gets the roles. Would have loved to see what Cherry Jones could have done with the "Doubt" lead, for instance. Didn't buy Streep in this one.
Denzel is fading. But he'll be in there; otherwise there will be charges of racism.
Remember that the great majority of voters are older, white males. And they are mostly conservative.
Tommy Lee Jones will probably get his second oscar for supporting, unless Russell Crowe is too versatile in "Les Miserables". That would make Julia Roberts unhappy. She was the one who started the Denzel "he should win every time he's onscreen" ball rolling for "Training Day". Many of us sensed she was anti-Crowe, more than she was pro-Denzel at the time.