Bo- Link to RVi/
- A lot of blind items on lipstick alley.
BLIND ITEM: (EXPLICIT)
*Warning, the following blind item is explicit and sexually graphic!
This singer is considered a sex symbol. Women love him, they throw themselves at his feet!
At first, he loved the attention and he was flattered by the compliments.
He doesn’t feel that way anymore.
He’s grown tired of female hysteria and he’s decided to act on an sexual fantasy-that he’s been avoiding.
The fantasy: He desires penetration.
He confided in an gay employee (and held him to secrecy). He allegedly said, I can’t shake this feeling and I hate having these desires.
The friend told him to be himself.
He took those words to heart.
He had the former gay friend (secretly) purchase a dildo.
He put lubrication on it and started practicing on himself (when he lost his gay virginity) he didn’t want the first time to hurt.
When he was ready, he had his gay friend arrange a hookup.
He was shocked when the gay friend arrived with a pre-op Tranny.
At first, he said hell naw but he was convinced to try it.
Later, the Tranny put in work (rimming). When he started sexing him, the singer kept screaming “Breed Me!”
Now, this singer is completely addicted to pre-op Trannys (only).
Different Tranny’s (all over the country) have him wide open!
He’s an active bottom from coast to coast-requesting horse hung Tranny’s.
It’s gotten out of control!
Example: He’s having sex several times a day with various Trannys and it allegedly causes a lot of “blowback-overflow,” therefore he’s now wearing a tampon to catch it.
http://www.lipstickalley.com/f15/blind-items-anal-sex-birth-control-alternative-2-hiv-brothers-2-smelly-coochies-leaking-booty-435491/
- Re: Spin off: halle berry tea, if your senstive stay out!
He wouldnt go further then to agree it was gayle and oprah. This was between the oscar and tv movie. This reminds me of the time the late dick yorks boyfriend albert was sharing a story about oprah and gayle. Albert said he over heard gayle saying to oprah that they both can do toni braxton. He said he was at some party. This was around the time toni filed for bankruptcy when she was with that football player curtis martin? I thought he was full of it to.
Also, if OPRAH was a rapist, THE MAN would have taken her down long before she got to BILLIONAIRE status. Oprah is not so special that she can rape and drug people and get away with it.
- What kind of blind items are those?
- Horse hung pre-op trannies!
Merciful heavens!
Clara Edwards
- Toni Braxton blames Oprah for her bankruptcy. She said that Oprah's comments on her show caused the downfall of her career.
- Why isn't Dianne Reeves receiving her props?
https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_embedded%26v%3DT7NFk8X6_1g
- Did any of you see Toni Braxton's Behind the Music?
- Bump.
- This is long, but it was written by a white woman in Red Hook, Brookyn:
I've got some feelings right now. So this is gonna be long.
I've been trying out all kinds of volunteering and relief work since the hurricane hit. Until today, nothing I'd done felt like much of anything, except wasted time.
I spent today in Red Hook again, this time with the ever lovely Rachael. I got to see Anna and Quai and touch in with my wonderful radical social work community. I didn't do any more FEMA handouts this time, but stuck to the CBO side of things (better place for me, for sure).
We went to a community center, where there was a huge gym overflowing with donations. Tons of tables set up with supplies, canned goods, blankets, clothes, water, an overflow of everything. We connected with some strangers who became allies during the day. Rachael was so intentional about talking with them about some of the more problematic interactions we witnessed.
Because throughout the whole day, there were way too many racial microaggressions from the predominantly white volunteers toward people of color coming from the community. The most common was the assumption that people of color from the community weren't volunteers, but trying to cut in line or sneak extra food or supplies, and an underlying tone that poor folks needed to be controlled or else total chaos would ensue. (This was a foreshadowing of the police attitude later on.)
People were waiting in the line to get supplies and food for a long ass time. And when I say long ass time, I mean like 4+ hours. In the cold, with their kids, with their grandparents using walkers. Folks got antsy, as everyone does when waiting in long, cold lines. Rachael and I took out water bottles for people, laughing and chatting with them in line while they waited. People were SO NICE and SO PATIENT. When we'd run out of water and tell them we'd be right back everyone was cool with it and just grateful to be getting something while they waited. And so many people in line asked how they could sign up to come back later and volunteer. People wanted to help each other.
Then we started bringing out some sandwiches and snacks for people at the same time. One guy said it was like at those fancy restaurants where they give you coffee while you wait in line. After everything folks have been through seems like they should be treated like royalty. Some other volunteers started giving out stuff in the line too, we all did this for a while, and then the police showed up.
Apparently we weren't allowed to distribute ANYTHING on the street. How come? People might "get out of control." Because feeding people starts riots, apparently. Rachael tried talking to one of the officers, explaining how food and water was helping people stay chill, but orders were orders or some shit. So then we were just taking food&water out on the DL and telling people to keep it quiet, and make sure that kids and the elderly got what they needed first. And everybody shared with each other and no one ever complained when we ran out of stuff, even though each time we had to sneak stuff out around the cops so it took forever.
Think about that. We had to SNEAK OUT DONATIONS in order to give them to people. And there was no issue of scarcity. I'm not sure it would even have been possible to run out of supplies. The Red Cross dropped off truckloads of stuff and the donations were still flowing in when we left at 4.
What keeps running through my head is that this is how we end up recreating the same oppressive systems even when we are "helping," even when we want to do good. We don't trust people to share, we make assumptions about who is trustworthy, who has something to offer, who is valuable. It isn't just the cops doing this, since we so quickly end up policing each other without even realizing it. And today, like all days, these assumptions are tied up with race and class.
It breaks my heart right open.
So, feelings. I had a lot of them. And I'm going back tomorrow to have some more.
- Did any of you see that movie "Soul Food Junkies" by Byron Hurt. It looked good but I'm always skeptical about criticism against soul food/ southern food because it's often pretty unfair.
- fist bump!
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- Shaun T took his husbands last name! Im a little upset that he married what looks to be white man, though.
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/content/shaun-t-not-coming-out
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- Late to the game and don't know the back-thread to Toni Braxton's bankruptcy and Oprah. BUT! I remember when Toni was going through the first bankruptcy, she appeared on Oprah when Oprah did her show from Texas during the trial. Oprah told Toni that she should always sign her own checks. Oprah said Bill Cosby gave her that piece of advice. Oprah's never filed for bankruptcy and neither has Bill Cosby. Somebody wasn't listening.
- I like what Tamar said regarding the situation last week. She pretty much said Oprah is human and is capable of hurting people's feelings. And that's really all the whole situation came down too, how Toni felt. Oprah is super influential, which is why r14, she was in that trial in the first place! Sometimes Oprah needs to bring it in. Bill Cosby and Oprah also never worked in the music business, which has evolved into a completely different monster since the 90s.
- Toni is in denial.
- I didn't know there was Oprah and Toni Braxton beef. Interesting.
- Anybody see Nicki Minaj's special on E last night? I dont know whether to love or hate her.
http://www.mrworldpremiere.net/2012/11/nicki-minaj-my-truth-part-1.html
- R13,
Thanks for posting. I hate saying this, but his taking a white man's name bothers me.
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- It seems like the only two r&b artists who made good music in 2012 was Miguel and Elle Varner.
- R2 I'm not buying that bunch of BS lol.
- I read that Lipstick Alley got shut down for a while after the mayor of Atlanta found out people were spreading rumors about him on the site. I was as shocked as Sandra Rose that they weren't gay rumors.
http://sandrarose.com/2012/11/atlanta-mayor-sues-lipstick-alley-for-slander/
- R20 yes to Miguel but a big fat NO to Elle Varner. She cannot sing. "Refill" sounds pathetic. I don't understand her popularity. There are so many girls who can really SANG out there and instead we have this chick being pushed on r&b stations.
- R13 and R19. Why are you upset that he married white? Did you see the hateful comments that "we" left regarding his special day in the comment section? They hate wasn't directed at his hubby for being white it was due to the fact that he had a hubby instead of a wife. Who the fuck cares what color his hubby is or his new last name...he found someone to love him. Perhaps more of us need to come out the closet and stop this DL crap and successful men like him would have more black men to pick from.
- Im not really into Elle Varner either. Maybe I need to listen to some more of her songs. That Refill song is not passing the smell test for real sangers, for me.
- I wonder if Shaun T is the bottom in that relationship.
- I find fit guys of all backgrounds to be hot...I just find it weird that Shaun T who is famous, took his husband's last name. I assumed either both would keep their own names, or his husband would change his name. Weird.
- I don't like "Refill" at all but a lot of her songs got sick beats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCV8YRIfL3hA%26feature%3Drelated
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- Eddie Murphy with his new girlfriend:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/05/eddie-murphy-girlfriend-paige-butcher_n_2079300.html?ref=topbar
Mia
- Why hasn't someone started a ATL Housewives thread? Kenya is a mess.
- "Coochie Crack!"
Kenya
- Who will be the breakout star of Basketball Wives: L.A?
Draya?
Laura?
Jackie?
Malaysia?
Gloria?
Brooke?
Bambi?
- R30 there is one...it's the one that is titled "Sheree is fired" lol we're using that one.
- It's a celebration bitches!
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DO9sABRosdNg
- Bump.
- so Jermaine Jackson wants to legally his last name to "Jermaine Jacksun" lmao
- I need a big black cock!
- Is Jermaine crazy, r36?
- My black friend who has had every white girl in site tells me his mother, who along with his dad are preachers, "if she can't use your comb, don't bring her home"
- R24,
I'm happy that Shaun has found love, I just get a feeling in my gutt that because he is married to a white dude, he somehow has to take the number two spot, by taking his last name. Shaun T is the biggest name in fitness now, so it seems odd that his boyfriend would not want to take his name. I'm being honest by saying that it would bother me less if he were black.
- Is anybody else really scared about the Fisher vs. Texas case that is currently in front of the Supreme Court? I recognize how widely unpopular affirmative action is but to have that loser Abigail serve as an example of how it is unjust is pretty ridiculous.
- Maybe Shaun T is just the male wife in the relationship.
- I don't know what Shaun T's relationship is like with his family. are the supportive and approve?...if not, that could be why he wants to change his last name or he could just be in love and want to take his hubby's... or hubby is the only male and they want to keep the family name going in case of children. I don't know.
- What do you guys think about the Don Lemon / Jonah Hill meltdown? I know some of you dont like Don because he is H.Y. black, and has a white partner like Shaun T.
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMOR8vnHub60
- Shaun T and Don Lemon can be with whoever the hell they want to be with. This isn't 1955. And like R43 said we don't know what Shaun T's relationship is like with his family. He may be closer to his husband's family. We also don't know anything about their relationship. Shaun T can take his husband's name if he wants to. He has his reasons and he doesn't have to explain to anybody.
The whole racism claim is a major reach. A white man would not only be in a relationship with a black man but marry that black man but we are supposed to believe that he would draw the line at taking that black man's last name? Especially when considering that this particular black man is a well-known celebrity? Really? Stop letting your insecurities color your thinking.
Gurl bye!
- R41,
Because I think she has such a weak case, I'm not stressed. Now I think if an Asian were to argue that's it's unjust, they may have a real case.
- R45 Preach!
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- Okay, I'm black and have no idea what H.Y. black is. Can someone explain. Thanks.
- does HY = High Yellow?
- R48, could it be high yellow?
- I thought that, but Don Lemon is far from high yellow. So I figured that it must mean something else. High Yellow is Lisa Bonet, not Don Lemon.
- Don Lemon, Shaun T, Lee Daniels. I see a pattern here. No better than their straight counterparts! Tyler Perry probably has a white man laying in the cut too!
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- Some people would say Don is high yellow. It's one of those gray areas to be honest, no pun intended.
http://www.google.com/imgres%3Fhl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DYE3%26sa%3DX%26tbo%3Dd%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D661%26tbm%3Disch%26tbnid%3DocGfuvi2W2GcrM:%26imgrefurl%3Dhttp://www.celebitchy.com/262566/jonah_hil
- Don Lemon is SUCH a drama queen.
- Johna Hill, Don, really? Mr. Hill is not meltdown worthy. Don was most definitely on one.
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http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php%3Fv%3Dwshh1I4RmcdT6X9B15D4
- bump!
- What do you guys think about the Kevin Clash story? This guy has gone from hero to alleged pedophile in a matter of days. Its seems like a pattern now, black gay men getting outed by former lovers.
Im on the younger end of the people that post on this site, but I HATE that young guys like myself are looking for a payday by doing stuff like this. The guys that exposed Eddie Long are just as bad. Spending their settlements on drugs and getting arrested and shit. I already feel like I have so many stigmas in life as black man and gay man. When they do this stuff it makes us younger gay black guys look just as predatory as the older men who should have better judgement. At least be discreet about your shit and dont drag down the image of black men while doing it. Im sorry if I ranted but this has struck a nerve with me today.
- Vh1's new interracial dating show white man looking for a black woman.
There is a boycott that has taken a life of its own against the VH1 Network.
We here at Black Media News have been watching the support around this boycott.
VH1 had made racist comments about black women and why they only cast shows that stereotype black women as ghetto.
http://www.lipstickalley.com/f15/vh1s-new-interracial-dating-show-white-man-looking-black-woman-129358/
- Eddie Murphy's girlfriend is gorgeous (even though the relationship is fake). Don Lemon is not high yellow, not even close. I don't know why, but I am skeptical of the Kevin Clash story. Something doesn't seem right.
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- I feel badly for Kevin Clash. Why would another gay man make up a story that only reinforces gay stereotypes.
- lol Don is not high yellow...but I think he's being ridiculous about this. Hill probably thought he was a random fan. A lot of celebs are rude when the cameras aren't on them (I'm not making excuses for this behavior and I think it's pathetic). I think Don wrongly assumed Jonah would know who he was and is pressed that he got treated as if he were a random fan.
Jonah just proved he's a jerk and that it's not worth any potential fan's time to try talking to him, while Don got a reality check that's he not that famous to people who don't watch CNN.
- Is Windell D. Middlebrooks of Body of Proof gay, or is he just playing camp?
- I feel bad for Kevin Clash, period.
- Thank GOD this dipshit didn't get elected:
"In a conference call on Wednesday afternoon with his national finance committee, Mr. Romney said that the president had followed the “old playbook” of wooing specific interest groups — “especially the African-American community, the Hispanic community and young people,” Mr. Romney explained — with targeted gifts and initiatives."
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/romney-blames-loss-on-obamas-gifts-to-minorities-and-young-voters/
- Richard Roundtree?
- Frank Ocean and his boyfriend!
Just made to the big leagues and has selected himself a YT man. A French one at that!
http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/dcfb3aa02f4d11e2a55d22000a1fbcd5_7.jpg
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- R65 Oh,Mitty, he just doesn't get it. You just can't fix stupid.
- R67 too bad the camera quality in that pic sucks. The bf is not bad looking. I wonder if Frank will be a whore or someone who goes from relationship to relationship.
- The guy who ratted out Elmo, has recanted. I'm not too sorry for Kevin, because he should have known better. I wonder if the guy was a hustler.
http://www.dlisted.com/2012/11/15/and-heres-dude-who-tried-destroy-elmos-voice
- I didn't even know that Kevin Clash was gay until this story broke. Although the allegations have been proven to be false, I'll be surprised if Kevin fully recovers from this.
That doesn't surprise me one bit, R65. His views are fairly widespread within the Republican party. They've insulted blacks for the last 50 years, Hispanics the last 15-20 years, gays about as long as blacks, and then they have the nerve to expect our votes.
- Anybody know this guy?
http://www.nextmodels.com/m/standard/webCS/frc/IMG/d2ba2c4a-398f-4ee1-a264-6f827a654fbe/E59E6C8C-0BF9-483A-B4C4-99A66F88092C.JPG
- As long as the rethugs have blacks willing to coon for them they will aleays think we will come around for them.
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- R73 he's not that good looking enough for me to care lol
- r74 I hope you weren't referring to me...and if you were how dare you beyotch!
http://lostfilm.info/images/photo_actor/57/1032636_560698.jpg
r72
- that's a MUCH better pic in #75 than #72.
- Anybody know why the Frank Ocean thread got shut down?
- Is Tevin Campbell planning a comeback? With the singers we have out today, I hope so!
https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DthQbw2qVMK4
fangurl
- Why we can't get ahead
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php%3Fv%3DwshhN0UtJuu02aUs7v2h
- Maybe this too r79
http://bougieblackgirl.com/2012/11/19/what-region-of-the-world-participates-in-the-deportation-abuse-and-enslavement-of-black-people-it-aint-the-north-america-or-an-european-country-its-the-middle-east/
- Is it just me, or is Awkward Black Girl a little whack now?
- As far as Shaun T and his white husband, I think that gay black men need to be careful that we don't fall into what I respectfully call the "bitter bitch" cohort. The only black gay guys who have major problems with IR couples are the ones that are totally hateful, bitter, and ALONE. Black gay men and straight black women are the two groups that are the least likely to be married/partnered. We need to ask ourselves why that is.
Personally, I'm at a point where I couldn't give a shit less about a white man for anything more than a casual fuck. Call me racist or whatever, that's just how I feel right now. However, I dated a wonderful white guy for two years who was amazing to me. And I had to deal with all the comments from every black queen who saw us together who project their bullshit onto what we had. I "only dated white men," "thought I was too good for a black man," etc etc.
Black gay guys need to get over that bullshit. Love is freaking love, and it's hard enough to find out here. I applaud anyone who has found it.
- [quote] I couldn't give a shit less about a white man for anything more than a casual fuck.
Sounds like your white man was too good for you.
- R82, I agree with your general sentiment, although I'm not sure if some of the things you said are necessarily factual. There are some statistics that have shown that black women are the least likely to be married but I've never seen any information stating that they are the least likely to be partnered. Also remember that our society is trending toward non-marriage in general.
I also must mention that those marriage statistics about black women are faulty ( read the article below). I've also never seen any studies about black gay relationships that support your assertion that black gay men are the least likely to be partnered. Actually, I've never seen a study about black gay relationships period. So I would be very interested in reading such a study. It would be awesome.
However, I do agree with you about bitter, angry, lonely people being the ones angry about IRR ( I hate to be so harsh). I think that they are looking to blame something or someone for their predicament. And I think they tend to overestimate their numbers. Black people overwhelmingly support IRR and a large percentage have been in IRR. I think that those who have a problem with them need to do some serious introspection. A black person is not required to be with another black person, same with whites, Asians, Latinos and so on. You can't claim another person as yours simply because they share the same skin tone. As you mentioned, it's hard enough to find real and lasting love/relationships in this world.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/11/opinion/sunday/black-and-female-the-marriage-question.html%3Fpagewanted%3Dall%26_r%3D0
- Is Janelle Monae family?
- I haven't read Awkard Black Girl in a while, R81, so I'm not sure. But I liked her at one point. I'm not sure, R85. But it wouldn't surprise me if she was.I've never heard any gossip about her dating a guy or anyone for that matter.
- R82 just wondering, if your relationship with your ex white partner was great, why do you only think white guys are good enough for a casual fuck now? Why did your views change?
Personally, I'm attracted to all backgrounds if they're in good shape.
- Yes, R87, I found that casual fuck comment kind of odd too. It doesn't fit with the rest of his post.
- R80 it baffles me why no black person in power, either in the entertainment biz or business, speaks up about this. I'm sure they've heard about it before too. They don't seem to care about blacks outside of America. Oprah built a school in South Africa OK. Anyone else do anything? Has she ever talked about modern day slavery?
- r82 here. After breaking up with the white boyfriend (he was older and to this day remains one of my closest friends. I regularly have dinner with him and his husband) I got really burned by a long succession of white guys. I think maybe subconsciously I was looking for the same thing I had before, and truth be told I had a lot of daddy issues to work out as well.
After dealing with the same thing with them over and over again, I just kind of gave up. The white guys I was dating wanted nothing but sex. That's it. I didn't feel like I was being respected or treated the way I deserved to be. I also find myself subconsciously railing against how much whiteness is worshipped in gay culture.
I truly believe that love is love and I don't look down on black/white IR relationships, but I'm also aware that one may not be for me at this particular moment in time.
I'm seeing two guys right now. A Latino who is very into me but I vaguely mistrust, and a very nice black man I met while vacationing earlier this year. The long distance thing is of course very casual but I do love being with him when we do see each other. The Latino is very into the idea of things burning hot and fast which I'm not into right now, and, again. there is something vaguely untrustworthy about him, but I'm taking things VERY slowly.
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- R82 It seems like you picked the wrong men. Why did you and your ex break up, did he want more than you could give at the time? I just ask because your ex is partnered up and you said he was older.
Also, you should trust your instincts and go slow with both guys. The latino guy could have his own trust issues, and that could be why he's coming off shady. The long distance relationships are tricky, especially if the relationship stated afterwards.
- My gift to you all. R. Kelly's Trapped in the Closet, chapters 23-33. All 40 minutes worth.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php%3Fv%3Dwshh53A8c3LGfnNjaL2z
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- So apparently Fantasia TORE IT UP at the Soul Train Awards that will air tonight and that she lost a ton of weight after having that baby.
- Anybody still watching Sweetie Pies? I have a big crush on Tim, even though he acts like a cunt. His fiancee/baby mama has no idea what to do with his HUGE booty, which is why he is so angry all time lol
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- Tim is very homophobic. Remember episode where they were trying to find out which girl Charles was "dating" and Tim exclaimed "I hope it's not a guy!" Douchebag.
- So Katt Williams...MESS. Anyone hear the latest? He's being sued now for "non-performance". He was doing a show in California but ended it after just 10 minutes. During the 10 minutes, all he did was confront a heckler, take off some clothes and threaten to fight 3 people in the audience. He must be on crack, as rumors have been for the past couple years. It's sad-in the mid 2000s he was so together and very funny. WTF happened?
- I know he is ignorant as hell r95. But he is so thick!
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- r97
He's ignorant AND stupid?
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- R95 - Did Tim finally get his man-boobs removed?
- Cee-lo and the Muppets
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_embedded%26v%3DU6ttXzJq42Y%23%21
- Nicki Minaj's CD is flopping.
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/73695361.html
- Can I vent to y'all?
Wanna know why black kids are fucking up??? One of my 6th grade boys was like, "Oh Ms. ___, my grades were good so my Moms got me a PS3. I got an iPone last marking period."
What was his average?? An 80!!!! A goddam 80. And his two 90's were in Talent (drama) and gym! You know what I got when my average was an 88?? My Mom complaining that it wasn't a 90.
Low expectations are not coming from the Man people...it's coming from us
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- What a simplistic, myopic, and sad view, particularly because it's coming from a teacher. Also, generalizations are almost never a good thing. I suggest that you become familiar with a concept called stereotype threat as well as institutional racism if you aren't already. Once you become familiar with both social realities ask yourself why they exist.
I must say that find it hard to believe that someone could live their lives as a black person in this society, someone who works within the educational field and thus familiar with the way in which school culture influences student achievement, can say that low expectations for black students is solely the result of black parenting. No, actually I can believe it.
I would also suggest that you become familiar with the Harlem Children's Zone and Urban Prep Academy. These schools are just two examples of successful predominately black schools that require parental participation and thus high expectations for their children, but they establish an environment of high expectations within the school itself. Everyone from the janitor to the cafeteria lady to the principal have high expectations for their students. They create a school culture of high expectations which results in high academic achievement.
You see, stereotypes are more powerful than many seem to realize. Stereotypes are often internalized and they then become a reality. Then you have teachers who also believe that those stereotypes are true (often subconsciously). This then results in students with internalized racism (which is a major issue and there are examples of it even in this thread) and a school culture that perpetuates negative stereotypes that result in low achieving black students.
The two schools above prove that parents and teachers have to be a team; they have to be on the same page. You can't have one without the other. School culture must be altered in that it promotes high expectations for black students along with parental involvement/high expectations. It's not just the parents. It's also an institutional issue. Don't take this post as an attack. I just wanted to say my piece; I'm not go argue about it.
- Have you guys heard about this new Tyler Perry Show, Tony and Dave? Tyler Perry has a talent for picking good-looking guys to star in his productions.
Tony and Dave
http://www.discreetcity.com/1/post/2012/09/tyler-perrys-new-black-gay-sitcom-tony-and-dave.html
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- Is this for real? Why are we just now hearing about it if it's starting so soon?
- No it's not real show, R106. But it should be which is the point of the article. I thought it was a creative way to get a point across so I played along.
R105
- Damn! Got my hopes up and I'm in love with Mel Jackson! But the blog speaks truth.
- Yes, Mel is cute. Hey the show could become a reality someday, you never know.
- lol r105.
I loved Mel Jackson and Bumper Robinson on Living Single
- Speaking of Jacksons, Michael released "Thriller" 30 years ago today. Time flies, huh?
RIP, MJ.
- Nicki Minaj needs to calm her ass down. She is really buying into her own hype now! She was so disrespectful to DJ Envy
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DK_nvM5YwumM
- I love how people in here handle trolls, I really do!
- R103, why are so many teachers mediocre and resentful of their students? It always amuses me how they rant and moan about "these kids" and the supposedly high standards they were raised with--but their own English and teaching skills are atrocious. You should be grateful that the teaching "profession" exists, providing you a much improved lifestyle than that which you would enjoy as a Wal-Mart cashier, which is your rightful place in life. According to "the Man" (and who even says "the Man"? You sound like a white idiot. I'm surprised you didn't say "honkey").
- Alas, I spoke too soon.
R113.
- So true, r112.
- Lil Wayne's baby mamas:
http://bossip.com/688632/weezy-f-babymamas-lil-waynetoya-wright-nivea-and-lauren-london-flick-it-up-at-reginaes-birthday-party/
- What happened to Mo'Nique? Ever since the talk show got cancelled, it seems like she fell off the face of the Earth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DmtUXg_w3rBo%26list%3DFLlgHK4lBl01neN2Vw5aPPbg%26index%3D5%26feature%3Dplpp_video
- Did anybody see Dionne Warwick's Life After on TV One? I also heard that Faith and Nicci are leaving R&B Divas.
- I saw the Dionne Warwick Life After and I thought it was interesting. Nicci got on my nerves sometimes, but I don't want her to leave the show! Who will replace them? Do you know?
- Im heard that Nicci was leaving, but Im surprised that Faith is leaving too, seeing as how they are executive producers of the show! I guess they will continue being producers but they wont be on camera. I really dont get it, that show is the best thing to happen to all these ladies careers in the last decade, easily.
I hope they pick good replacements. Selena, Keke and Monifa could probably carry the show by themselves, but the more drama the better!
- I read that Angie Stone may join the show.
- I love me some niggers!
- I agree R121! This show is the best thing to happen to these ladies in quite some time, so I don't understand why they would leave the show. That's just an odd decision. Angie Stone might be good.
- Nicci was full of complaints so I can see her leaving.
- They should add Tweet and Lil Mo to the cast. Or maybe Coko from SWV.
- I love that I get the anti-teacher bashing rhetoric here. I also didn't realize that teachers were forbidden to speak in vernacular on a message board...
Am I mediocre teacher? Maybe maybe not. I am well-trained and although I've been teaching for two years, I continue to improve. Even though I think many of the standardized tests are useless, my students from last year did fairly well on their citywide tests.
As I always say, the issue is not whether or not teachers are "good" or "bad." Too many them are ill-prepared and when combined with terrible school environments, poor relationships with parent and administrators, the issue becomes that of teacher effectiveness, not necessarily their quality. Some of the teachers in my school would do just fine in suburban schools where there are fewer issues of disturbances in classrooms, rowdiness in hallways, etc.
To respond to r104, I don't think my view is myopic, I don't think it's that complicated. I, personally, do not agree with rewarding children each time they good grades but I respect parents who choose to do so in an effort to motivate them. Fine. But with an 80 average including two 90's in gym and drama, there had to have been a couple of 70's on his report card. Why are we rewarding a C student with such lavish gifts?
Now, not everybody is going to be an A student and that is fine. But why are this child's parents rewarding him as if he was an A student? He's twelve. If he get's iPods and fancy video games right now, just cruising alone with 70's, what is to encourage him to get A's? How is he going to know if he can do better?
My frustrations as a teacher are the constant disrespect, character assassinations, poor pay, grueling paper work, etc. I went in expecting most of that. What is hard is being expected to inspire kids, many of whom are very talented with plenty of potential, while having to counter obstacles like parents' misguided attempts to cheer their kids on.
- I think Coko could be a nice addition. I haven't heard from Tweet in a long time. Does she still sing? I'm thinking that Nicci didn't like how she came across on the show and that could explain the early exit. That's just a guess. Faith, I'm not sure.
- Nicci acted like the show was a huge inconvenience. Maybe she can focus on Curvado, her plus size clothing line. On a side note, Monifah and Terrez are too old to have a baby. That makes zero sense.
- I watch The Walking Dead and there's a continuing controversy/running joke that the show can't seem to keep black men from getting killed off and that they can only seem to have one black male character at a time.
They had a guy named T-Dog for 3 seasons; right when they introduced a new BMC named Oscar, T-Dog got killed. Last night, a 3rd BMC showed up and Oscar died. Every board I visit, there are countless observations of how TWD "did it again" and killed the black man. The degree of indignation is off the charts, along with of accusations of racism on the producers part.
Personally, I don't see the racism. There are other black characters on this show, so the level of 'OMG, how dare they!" confuses me. Any other opinions?
- I think a lot of the people piping up on the one black man edict are doing it to feel superior - they want to seem profound and righteous and 'in the know' and that 'they see things'. I also wonder about how many of these protesters are actually black and why they feel the need to be so outspoken.
I've seen this with fans of the show Supernatural - their main fanbase is white women in the 15-30 age range. But man do they get vocal when a black male character is killed off the show - the howls of racism echo off the walls. I just sit back and shake my head. I sometimes wonder if I should feel more outraged - but I just don't.
- R126 Yesss!
Here's my dream cast of R&B Divas: Meshell Ndegeocello, Dawn from En Vogue, Coko, Tweet, Kelly Price, Angie Stone, Keke, Monifa, Faith and Nicci.
- Bump!
What do we think of Joe Budden's peepee?
http://missjia.com/images/2012/12/joe-budden-mirror-pic.jpg
- Usher?
- He could pound me like a piece of meat r133
- Can someone post a thread on this...?
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/where-masturbation-and-homosexuality-do-not-exist/265849/
- Shaun T and his hot bawdy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DryqbRW0LTDU
- Anybody home???
- Time to profile white men?
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/would_the_u_s_government_profile_white_men/%3Fsource%3Dnewsletter
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- We have been Emancipated for 150 years! Happy Emancipation Day!
Even though you Negroes have left this thread FOR DEAD...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/29/emancipation-proclamation-150th-anniversary_n_2380910.html
Mama%20Dee
- You bitches have nothing to talk about anymore?? Django, DTLA, Al Roker shitting himself, etc???
- African American Dataloungers = crabs in a barrel!
- What's wrong with black people who are not in the US? Why exclude them with a thread like this?
- Stop being a shit-stirrer, r144. We were doing just fine before you came along, thank you very much.
- Explain that fart of stupidity that is your post r145.
This thread asks for American input only. Why?
- We've already dissected the choice of titling it "African-American" rather than "black" in earlier threads.
Do your research.
Next.
- r145 is exactly who Im talking about!!
r144 I dont think when Part I started a long time ago that we were intentionally excluding anyone. Anybody can post on these threads really. I think the original topic starter was just trying to be politically correct by saying African-American, instead of black. I recall we had quite a long debate about the term "African American" on the very first thread.
r143
- I'm not going back and reading through that. It's a dumbfuck decision and kind of offensive that you'd think other blacks aren't worthy.
- Oh shit. So it's a PC thing? Even worse. Who enables such fucktards in this place?
- [quote]I'm not going back and reading through that.
You don't have to. We just told you that we discussed it at length years ago. And IIRC most black people who post here don't like being called African-American, even if they are black people of African descent that live in America.
[quote]It's a dumbfuck decision and kind of offensive
Again, it was not done to be intentionally offensive.
- Who cares if the thread says "African-American" get in where you fit in. Just respond. If your background is relevant put "--Shane,Cameroon, for ex" as author, no one will care.
I'm on all types of forums (based in Nigeria, Britain, etc.) I just respond, not pick a fight about the title of threads.
Anyway, Did anyone ever figure out who the answer to that first BI was?
Thanks%20in%20advance.
- Who's the best Real Housewife of Atlanta now?
I am liking everybody except Kenya, and I mainly feel sorry for her.
- This thread cannot go on until we discuss the Shawto Lo reality show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCGFbavTUYRs
- I heard him on the radio this morning. I wasn't going to watch the show, but I probably will watch it in the end. I just have to see this mess for myself.
- I guess if we are watching Shawty Lo's show than we are watching Love and Hip Hop!
Ive had a crush on Joe Budden for a long time so Im glad he is part of the ghetto cast. Joe is a bit "off" like his big booty ex-girlfriend Tahiry said, but I think its cute. I also could have sworn that Joe said he was celebrating his 27th birthday. I had to google it because that bitch does not look 27, and wiki says he is 32. I wonder why he lied about his age?
- New song from Destiny's Child
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D-gB_d5lnXZg
- Which two of you bitches were arguing in the "How do you deal with being attracted to a person from another race?" thread?
http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html%3Ft%3D10672782%23page:showThread%2C12335726%2C1
- R156,
I think Joe was kidding about turning 27. He looks like he's done some hard partying these past 5 years. I did not think I would like the new cast, but they are bringing the drama.
- Joe said he was high off pills for most of last summer. He looks like he is still recovering
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMMX-Wq4ppxw
- Just got finished watching "Soul Food Junkie" by hottie, Byron Hurt. I thought it was going to totally bash the food I love and grew up on but it was pretty fair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DU9qFm5ea0uQ
- Love and Hip Hop last night:
Tahiry's ass is out of control. Those Dominicans are something else.
I cannot believe Joe has a girlfriend, in addition to Tahiry and Raqi. What a mess. It is pretty clear that Joe suffered/is suffering profoundly. I hope he is really getting help to fight his demons.
- bmp
- Kelis. Kelly Rowland. Gossip.
- Im looking forward to the Destiny's Child reunion at the Superbowl. I think DC queens across America will faint if Lativia and LeToya pop up LOL
Im also over the Beyonce lipsynching thing. Who cares?
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- Mr. Wendal
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DwyDjRd0Tjss
Remember%3F
- Cool Like That
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DcM4kqL13jGM
Remember%3F
- Anyone watching "Real Husbands of Hollywood" and "Second Generation Wayans"? If so, what do you think?
I like both, mostly because they are scripted and not actual reality shows (which I hate). Kevin Hart is a bit over the top at times and needs to dial it down a few notches, but other than that, it's a pretty funny show.
- I caught an episode of Real Husbands r169. I was surprised at how funny it was, Im not a big fan of Kevin Hart. The writing on the show is very good.
- Happy Black History Month bitches!
How do we feel about Mother Houston keeping it real with Oprah?
Beyonce trying to save face at the Superbowl press conference?
- R171, I think we may have gotten a pretty good idea of why Whitney went to her grave without having ever told her mother of her true nature. But I didn't see the whole interview and only her responses to Oprah's questions in clips, so maybe there's context there I need to see before making a final judgment (though I doubt it).
People need to get over Beyonce and the lip-synch thing. Seriously they do.
And I see the race queens are having their annual shitfest (over in another thread) about how Halle Berry "played the race card" to win her Oscar (which is a vicious, evidence-free lie and they know it). Sad.
- Soooo, that's it? I was expecting more from Beyonce. I didn't need DC3, I mean they didn't add anything to me, they just took time away from the other songs Bey could've and should've performed. What did y'all think?
- People who use terms like "race card" are usually bigoted. Therefore, I don't agree that Halle used the race card to win the Oscar. However, I don't think she deserved the Oscar either. The Oscar should be reserved for exceptional actors and Halle is just passable. Angela Basset, Kimberley Elise, Cicely Tyson, Thandie Newton, Viola Davis, and Whoopi (Color Purple) don't have Oscars and Halle does. That's just not right. And to be honest I thought Halle's performance in Monster's Ball was a kiki.
As for Beyonce, my favorite song by her is "irreplaceable" but I guess it wouldn't have been right for the SB.
- R174,
Halo did not fit with the Superbowl, but that didn't stop her.
- I can't for Beyonce to be over. I yearn for the days when black superstars used their power and influence to promote social good. Everyone is just out for themselves now.
With the exception of Alicia Keys maybe...
- Unfortunately, I think those days are over, R176. No one is willing to put their neck on the line and risk offending their public and thus losing their fame and fortune. Kerry Washington is one the few exceptions and that's why I'm so happy that her show is a success.
Personally, I can't wait for Chris Brown to be over. I hate woman beaters with a passion. But it seems like woman beaters like Charlie Sheen and Chris Brown always win.
- Also. I feel like there's this poster on DL who pretends to be an anti-white, militant race person here. I feel like this is some tired, bored, white queen who gets off being a shit stirrer.
- Of course, R178. There are a shit load of mentally ill, race-obsessed, shut-ins who post here. DL is their life.
- [quote]I can't for Beyonce to be over. I yearn for the days when black superstars used their power and influence to promote social good. Everyone is just out for themselves now.
I think people expect too much, from people like her. I have no idea how much she gives back to various causes so I wont judge.
How do we feel about Lance Bass calling out Chris Brown for using the fagg*t word? I think he's right.
I have a problem with black people who get outraged at me comparing usage of the nigg*r with fagg*t. I feel the same way if someone uses either of those words at me with malice. Just because you are black like I am doesnt mean you have any kind of authority to say that black people are discriminated against more than gay people discriminated against. You have to be gay AND black to really know what it feels like. I'm sick of black blogs and other black people using this argument to broadcast veiled homophobia, because its exactly what they're doing.
- bump
- Angie Stone and LaTocha Scott from Xscape are the sixth and seventh cast members for the second season of R&B Divas on TVOne
http://blackamericaweb.com/96377/angie-stone-and-latocha-scott-added-to-rb-divas/
- This video is just too much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_embedded%26v%3DLFoRH-VtFO4
MARY%21
- I loooove the twerking r183
- Know who this is??
What's his deal? Anybody heard have tea on him, or is he just happily single.
http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/13e9dd7e6bca11e29fa922000a1f8feb_7.jpg
- God, I love Ru! LOL
Do you guys watch her show? At first I didn't know how to take Ms. CoCo. That mug up in drags gave Michael Clark Duncan in Green Mile, Ms. Sophia after the beating, "I feel like I don't know yall no mo", teas. But the bitch can read for blood. I gagged when she got Serena together in the last episode. So the jury is still out on CoCo.
- There's a young brother who won $75K on Jeopardy today (2/12). He has a big afro and was dressed very casually - grungy open shirt with a T-shirt underneath and black Chuck sneakers.
Unfortunately, besides being really smart, he seems to have some developmental thing going; he was hyper and had a bit of 'crazy eyes' going. Check him out tom'w.
- Yeah, my Mom and I have been rooting (sp?) for him. He's a total science geek.
That looks like Laz Alonso r185.
- Good article.
http://www.glaad.org/blog/gay-will-never-be-new-black-what-james-baldwin-taught-me-about-my-white-privilege
- Lil Wayne is a CUNT!
http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2013/02/say-what-lil-wayne-compares-sex-to-emmett-till-beating-epic-records-pulls-song/
- Weezy needs to sit his troll looking ass down > _/
- Very good article , R189! I must say that I'm surprised that the author is so aware.
- That boy was on television. Of course he's going to have some adrenaline going.
- Although I am frustrated by the fact that Chris Brown has a career in spite of his past, umm, "incident," I am happy that there is a sizable backlash against him unlike other male entertainers in the past. Eg- Lou Rawls, James Brown, Don Cornelius, hell, Bing Crosby, etc
Back in the day, if you were an abusive jackass, it was totally kept on the low. I'm just now seeing Lou Rawls' "Unsung" and was surprised to see that despite the fact he did amazing things w/ the UNCF, he was a total dick to his wife and kids.
- R182 I guess my wish for Meshell Ndegeocello is a no go. I remember her saying that she tried to reach out to Angie Stone, and I think Jill Scott but they never returned her calls or something like that. She said black radio wouldn't play her music. It seemed like she was hinting at being blacklisted too.
R194 I know! I love Unsung, there is so much we (gen pop) didn't know was going on behind the scenes. I always thought Lou Rawls was a good guy.
- Chris Brown is a scumbag and he can disappear today and I'll be happy to never hear from him again; but he's just O.J. 2.0. Hating on him isn't exactly going out on some politically incorrect limb, and the same people acting so horrified by his DV were just giving Glen Campbell a standing O at the Grammys, including mouth-breather Miranda Lambert. America always has a handful of designated Bad Niggers, and he's just the latest.
If Rihanna can leave the drugs alone she'll outgrow the shock and awe game, recognize that he isn't a bad, bad man and she's not Bonnie to his Clyde--he's just a punk who beats up on women and Frank Ocean and she's just making a fool of herself, and kick him to the left.
- Why hate on the Jeopardy kid, R187? He was fantastic and he won the tournament. Give him his props and leave it at that. He cracked everyone up with his final Jeopardy answer too. Google it.
- Perhaps Dennis Rodman should have been considered for Sec. of State.
- Are we watching Love and Hip Hop?
- Anybody in NYC (particularly Brooklyn) who knows more information about the 16 y/o who was shot by po po and the subsequent riots in Flatbush???
Did he have a gun???
- As a lover of everything Black, I adore Queen Latifah. I think Queen is fab!
Serious questions for my fellow kinfolks,
Will the African American community seriously alienate Queen if she ever comes out?
- I could be wrong but I don't think so. Most people figured out years ago that Queen is gay. I don't think anyone would care.
- How do we feel about Justin Timberlake? Is he forgiven?
Well%3F
- Everyone knows QL is gay. i just watched a youtube of her doing "Come Into My House" live--she's so butch I almost saw her balls drop. No one cares. Justin Timberlake on the other hand I will never forgive for being smarmy, smug and lame. Janet is laughing all the way to the bank at this point, so that Superbowl bullshit is all but forgotten.
I just rewatched "Paris is Burning" and watched "How Do I Look?" for the first time. I don't remember in which one Pepeper Labeija described the early segregated balls where they had to wear whiteface, so they started the balls up in Harlem. DL has it's moments, but I'm kind of feeling like it would be nice to have an online Paris is Burning, because this place is just depressing sometimes and this thread really isn't enough. Anyone know of such a place? If not, I would actually be willing to start one at this point.
- Not by me R203. I can't stand him and all the hype about him.
- Bump, bump, bump.
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- Bump for the black DL!
- Sisqo dic pics!!!
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/76643941.html
- lawd
http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/coolio41.jpeg
- Black gays coming to reality TV?
Someone emailed this to me.
Does anyone know about this?
What channel?
http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7XMiT3WRI7s%26feature%3Dplcp
- That new LL Cool J, Brad Paisley song is one of the most astounding and embarrassing fails I've witnessed in quite a long time. Fortunately they both meant well but you just can't simplify such a complex issue.
The primary issue I have with the song is mainly an issue I have with the media in general. It's kind of difficult to address this issue in the public sphere because it can easily be taken as offensive, which isn't my intention.
I feel that African American urban/inner city, lower socioeconomic plight is overrepresented in American media, black and mainstream media. And I think this oversaturation is misguided because in reality this story represents a small fraction of the African American experience. I think this oversaturation is detrimental to the psyche of African Americans who don't relate to that story. When your constantly being told that this is your story and you don't relate to it, you begin to see fault in yourself, you think something is wrong with you.
As a teen buppie raised by two buppies, I found myself trying to be what I saw represented in the media because I felt that this is what I was supposed to be as an African American. I was very conflicted and felt that there was something wrong with me because I couldn't truly relate to this image.
It wasn't until I grew older that I realized that there are specific cultural characteristics inherent in class systems, characteristics that individuals of a particular social class tend to share regardless of race/ethnicity. It wasn't that I "acted white", I acted upper-middle class and I was supposed to. I was supposed to relate better with people who were middle and upper-middle class because we share cultural/social characteristics that make us similar. I think that media representations need to reflect the diversity within the African American community (instead of being so slanted to one side). Not doing so can be terribly detrimental. The Cosby Show, Different World, Fresh Prince were nice shows but they're rare media representations, especially today. Sorry for the rant.
- That was brilliant r211 & I think that is Toure's problem. He also came from Buppie's. I'm not sure what ethnicity his father is & he has never said, but his long dead father was an accountant & had his own accounting firm. I feel he overcompensates all the time but then again, the media tells us that all black men are baby daddies, drug dealers & violent sociopaths. BW are either goddess-like or plain speaking or violent sociopaths.
- I most definitely understand where you're coming from, R211, as we have similar backgrounds. I was fortunate in that I had parents who had the ability to get me into the organization and/or social club called Jack and Jill, which was created in the 1930s for the specific purpose of establishing friendships and connections between the children of the black elite. My parents also took annual trips to Oak Bluffs and I feel like I grew up in one of the the most diverse neighborhoods in the already fairly diverse La Jolla, California. Therefore, I was always around African Americans or black people who were like me, which I think countered the messages I received from the media.
However, I do have friends who weren't as fortunate and as a result lived ( and in some cases continue to live) a very conflicted and tortured existence as teenagers and young adults. What you see in the media can have a significant influence on your subconscious mind. There were of course children of the black elite or upper class who did in some ways attempt to conform to the images they witnessed in the media and came across as unbelievably inauthentic and buffoonish. It would have made you cringe! And laugh when they left the room.
I knew a few guys who wanted to be gangsta rappers. A rapper would have been fine I suppose since there are some who come from middle and upper middle class backgrounds (though they tend to lie about it or avoid the topic), but gangsta rapper changes everything. Thugs and gangstas don't typically grow up in Beverly Hills with an OM CEO as a father. I'd like to see more representation of the OM black upper class in the media. However, they are so squeamish, exclusive, and secretive that it would be difficult to get an accurate one unless an insider decided to take on such a project. Although the media isn't really interested in accuracy. Anyway, I agree with everything you said. Excellent post!
- R204, I'm just seeing your post and I'm curious as to what you mean by an online Paris is Burning? Are you asking about a forum for ballroom kids? If so, I do know of one but it's been kind of dead for awhile now. I've been too busy lately to keep up with the scene so I'm not sure where the kids congregate online right now other than YouTube.
The forum I'm referring to used to be a shade-fest and a keke for the Gods. There also used to be a Yahoo/Google group. It wasn't a lot of racial stuff like it is here ( if that's what you mean by depressing) I'll try to find out if there is a new forum. Maybe you really should start a new one and maybe advertise it on YouTube vids where the kids are.
- Bump.
- Why would you make this thread only for Americans? We read DL from elsewhere you know.
- I agree that it sucks that all the black gay forums are closed.
Dreaming%20of%20a%20space%20for%20BGM%20on%20the%20net
- Did you guys always suspect Kerry Rhodes was gay?
- My parents didn't ( and still don't as even Oprah with all her billions isn't considered "in") really have the necessary "pedigree" to run with the Jack & Jill, Oak Bluffs set. My parents did quite well for themselves but they didn't come from money.
My paternal grandparents owned a dry cleaners, which allowed them to put all 4 of their children through college and my father through medical school. My maternal grandfather was a mechanic and his wife, my grandmother, an elementary school teacher. They also scraped, pinched, and saved enough ( combined with a little help from student loans) to put all 3 of their children through college, including 2 through law school (one being my mother).
My paternal great-grandparents were sharecroppers and my maternal great-grandfather a blacksmith, great-grandmother a midwife. We are the very definition of upwardly mobile. However, our money wasn't long enough and our veins not quite blue enough ( violet maybe?) to get me into Jack & Jill. Our annual vacations were primarily trips to Highland Beach, (sometimes) Sag Harbor, and quite often Disneyland.
I'm sure Toure has experienced much of what I mentioned as it is quite common. It's far more common than many people realize or want to.
R211
- Nicole Ari Parker?
- Everyone here is not American.
- What's our take on Jason Collins?
- Naomi got dumped by her white Russian billionaire according to the NYP.
Swirl%20Dead
- I'm glad Jason came out. I can't believe his twin didn't know or suspect something. He said one of his aunts knew.
- I so glad that Jason came out. And he's a great "first." I'm also surprised that his twin of all people never suspected that he was gay, I thought that was odd.
- The bigger issue I thought he was "engaged" to a white girl...and then led her one for 7 years, a la Ricky Martin, then dumped her.
- Well, it was wrong for him to lead her on like that but it's not as if this has never happened before. At least he came out before he had a wife, kids, and was the governor of New Jersey.
- Do we know that Jason's fiancee was DUMPED? Maybe she was in on it. As a female, I can't imagine being engaged to someone for seven years. How many of those relationships actually end in marriage? Would you want to be engaged to someone for that long with NO sign it would end in marriage? Not me.
BrownEyedGirl
- The GF looks like family herself....
- R211 and R213 I have always been secretly fascinated by the black elite as I didn't grow up with jack and Jill and buppies parents. I would love to see them represented more in the media. I have read that most members shun any kind of publicity.
Are Barack and Michelle considered the JFK and Jackie of the Black Elite? who are some of the leading families in that world and hat cities have the largest demographic of the BE? I realize how gauche these questions are. but I ve always Ben fascinated by their world. I read the book Our Kind of People by Lawrence Otis Graham yrs ago and it bought it opened a door to a world that was different from the world I grew up in
- [R230] I don't think your question is gauche at all. And yes, I believe that Jackie and Jack Kennedy are the near photo negative opposites of each other. It may be difficult for you youngins to believe, but there was a prejudice against Catholics in America in the 30's-70's socially which was similar in its own way to the struggle of Blacks. WASPY Americans did not like the idea of the Pope one bit, and the idea of the Pope being in the ear of our president was positively horrifying to them. Plus WASPS did not care for the influx of the poor Italians and Irish in the 20th century. The Kennedys were Catholic AND Irish, although they are what was known as "lace curtain Irish". Hence he beat Richard Nixon by the slimmest victory in the 20th century. Even after his death, the Kennedy family was denied membership in the restricted Everglades Club and the Bath and Tennis Club in Palm Beach, FL. They were forced to join the Jewish country club.
Of course times have changed tremendously since the depression era. Augusta National Golf Club, only open 3 months per year and has a membership of 85, invited Condi Rice to be their first female and second Black member. And they did not bow to political pressure. They are slooooowly adapting to changing times.
President and Mrs Obama are as handsome a couple as JFK and Jacky in their prime. Their educational CV is superior to the Kennedys. They conduct themselves with a warmer affect than the K's. In short, they are the NEW glamour couple of substance. It sickens me when other Blacks deride them for being sell outs, puppets of the Illuminati or worse a mulatto and his come-up hood rat wife. Jayzus Krist, whaddya want? Beyawnce and Jigga for the First Couple??
Today on MSNBC the panel on Steve Kornacki's show was already talking about the fact that post-Obama it is almost a given that there will always need to be a person of color on BOTH tickets.
Crab bucket Blacks bitch and moan about MK Ultra and various conspiracies, but they are too blinded by their own anger to see that this country has changed dramatically in 160 years. I can attest, since I was a child of privilege a la Huxtable, that by the time I die, all Jim Crow YTs will be dead, Blacks will have established themselves in the Bourgeoisie and the working poor and unemployed YTs and Blacks will equally be marginalized, as opposed to YT trash feeling they are somehow superior to ghetto residents.
Someday in history, they will teach that Obama was the Jackie Robinson of politics. Not because he was the first Black to enter an all YT pantheon, but because just as Branch Rickey knew he had to select a near perfect, even tempered, strong man to withstand the shit which would be thrown at him every day. I feel that Obama's ascendancy was based on the same reasoning. He had to be more than is humanly possible in his ability to make Blacks and Yts respect and warm to him...and he has. Even folks I know who don't care for his politics, cannot say that they don't respect him greatly as a man with an incredible family.
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- *yawns* all of this talk is too heavy for me.
Did yall see R&B Divas this week? Syleena threw that Nikki Gilbert out of her house!
- R&B Divas is so boring. And they're all fat.
- R232, are you black?
You can always start your own thread if you're so fascinated by that particular show.
- Where's our favorite femme lesbian Suzanne Malveaux? She hasn't been on CNN in quite a while. And did her (alleged) boo Lisa Salters really adopt a kid, some poster on LChat claims she did.
- I watched R&B Divas this week, this season looks like it will be good. Yes, they are all on the heavy side, I bet you bitches are too. But Nikki and Faith look like they have dropped some lbs.
There is an LA version of the show coming in a few weeks with Kelly Price, Chante Moore, Lil’ Mo, Claudette Ortiz, Michelle and Dawn Robinson from En Vogue.
Here is Lil' Mo on the Breakfast Club promoting it
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dwq26AKdW9g0
- BUMP!
- Here is a small peek into the black elite, R230.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VMDI8h2bpg&playnext=1&list=PL66000B8856E9EEC3
- Syleena Johnson has always been supportive to other artists. She proved it last season. I really hope she doesn't engage with Nicci anymore. Nicci even treats the daughter that she promised someone else that she would raise like shit. Believe someone when they show you who they are the first time.
- I watched the show this week. Angie Stone has good intent, but she needs to sit her ass down. She had me lmao when she took out her prayer oil. That has got to be a first for reality TV.
Nicci and Syleena need to just figure out their real problems with each other and work it out. I can tell Faith regrets even inviting Angie since she is just adding to their drama.
- What is the gossip on Spank Rock - gay? Bi?
Love him.
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- Bump!
- Who's Spank Rock?