"We'll NEVER cast age-approriate actors as couples," vows Hollywood
Deadline announced Bradley Cooper is going to star alongside Emma Stone in the new Cameron Crowe romantic comedy. Age difference: 13 years.
He appears alongside Jennifer Lawrence in "Silver Linings Playbook" for which he is expected to get an Oscar nomination. Age difference: 15 years.
What are the chances that they producers would even consider someone close to Bradley's age for the role?
Movies are made for male audiences. Males are known to like their sex partners as young as they can get away with. There you go.
I saw a picture of Liam Neeson and Olivia Wilde shooting a film recently. They looked to be playing a couple. He's born in 1952; she's 1984.
Liam also had a much younger wife in Unknown (January Jones) and The Grey.
What's the issue?
I've been watching The Good Wife recently and am sad to say that Hollywood has apparently taught me to believe that it's strange and even difficult to believe that the Will Gardner character (Josh Charles, b. 1971) would be attracted to /fall in love with Alicia Florrick (Julianna Margolis, b. 1966). But of course, such an attraction/relationship wouldn't be unusual in real life at all.
So they cast a homosexual (Bradley) with a fish.
Oh, JFC, the putrid stink that is MPC seems to have reinfested DL after a blessed period of absence. Anyone any ideas how to rid the place of this boil on the butt of humanity again?
[quote]Movies are made for male audiences. Males are known to like their sex partners as young as they can get away with. There you go
Yes, but this is a romantic comedy and most of those are geared towards women. I think the main problem is that movies are made and written by men and most of the studio executives are men, and this is their fantasy writ large.
And movie audiences are just supposed to eat it up.
Nobody wants to see an old bag getting laid.
A fish over 35 is an old bag.
Deal with it.
[quote]for which he is expected to get an Oscar nomination
They keep lowering that bar, don't they?
The exception is someone like Sandy Bullock who at 60-75 will still be cast as dating a 30 year old man, but her character will be "35-ish." Americans won't care though because they chose her as their "American Sweetheart"
There are only three ages for women in Hollywood; "Babe", "District Attorney", and "Driving Ms. Daisy."
"Males are known to like their sex partners as young as they can get away with"
Men may lust after MUCH younger women but that doesn't mean much younger women lust after them. Trust me, in the real world most 40-something guys do not look like Bradley Cooper. Most 20-year-old women are not dying to be with the 40-year-old guys you see waddling around Wal-Mart. Most guys wind up with women who are relatively close to their own age.
R1, Many men still have "Mrs. Robinson's fantasies." Come to Vegas where you see older showgirls who are naturally in far better shape than your average Hollywood "older" actress. I know the older I get the more offers I get from hot looking, younger men. I usually turn them down, however.
Please don't let him be Oscar nominated. He already appears to have an inflated ego.
"I know the older I get the more offers I get from hot looking, younger men."
And then you woke up
R16, Nope, and I'm not you; never need to just dream about men, thank you. Every young salesman who knocks on my door asks me out for drinks; no thanks. And I've never been into models; automatic turn down.
Except most people have forgotten about her lately r11. Who knows if that still holds true.
I'm a woman, no spring chicken, but I have to agree with the poster who referenced "The Good Wife." Doesn't help that Julianna Margulies looks her age and then some, and Josh Charles has quite the babyface. In fact, I totally turned off a season or two ago with the ridiculous plotline (thankfully short-lived) that had Josh Charles paired up for the attorney character played by Lisa Eldelstein. Who, BTW, was born in 1955. She looked ALMOST like his mother (I look her; great actress, but that pairing - and that "they met in law school" - was ridiculous UNLESS there had been lines about how she had been his PROFESSOR.)
Seeking a Friend for the End of the World was ridiculous, pairing Steve Carell with Keira Knightley. Terrible film too.
The R19's of the world are part of the problem.
So true that movies are for males in general. why else do you think in the Bond movies that the Bond actor is always in his 40s or early 50s and the women are always 20s or 30s? At least with Daniel Craig he's in great shape but damn. There have been so many movies I watch during which I, a gay man, cringe at the sight of a beautiful young woman having to make love to an older, uglier out of shape guy. I always think "damn I hope they're paying her well".
That movie with CZJ and Sean Connery. Ludicrous.
I have to say that as very young looking 43-year-old woman, I get on by young men all the time. You don't chase them; they chase you - that's why I think the cougar thing is a myth.
It's a fallacy to assume that males evolutionarily crave younger females - essentially, straight males crave all females, older or younger.
This is apparently confirmed by google porn searches:
MadTV did a really funny parody of that Connery/CZJ movie.
The older man/younger woman thing is so prevalent in Hollywood you almost don't notice it. Even a guy like Bradley Cooper, who is in great shape for almost 40, would in real life never hook up with a girl young enough to be his daughter as Jennifer Lawrence is, unless he was filthy fucking rich.
And then you have the unattractive slobs with hot wives. A few years ago there was a movie with Vince Vaughn and two other guys who all looked like aging, bloated alcoholics who were fed up with their wives so they all went to some spa or something to work out their problems. The kicker was that all three actresses playing the slobby guys' wives were young, thin and hot. It was so ridiculous; as if women that young and gorgeous would have anything to do with Vaughn and co., who were all fat and gross.
"It's a fallacy to assume that males evolutionarily crave younger females - essentially, straight males crave all females, older or younger."
ROFLMAO. Men are far more attracted to young women than to old ones. There are exceptions, of course, but if you gave a man a choice between a 20-year-old and a 50-year-old they would almost always choose the 50-year-old (unless the 20-year-old was ugly or had a horrible body).
I'm a youngish man (32) who only goes after much older men (45 and up to 60). Why can't there by straight counterparts who do the same things with women?
The funniest was Richard Gere (who was in his 40s but with his grey hair looked at least 10 years older) and Winona Ryder (in her 20s, looked 10 years younger). He looked like her grandfather.
R26, Plenty of straight older men are delusional and seeking a totally unrealistic fantasy. I can't stop laughing at them when they complain about how they hate the music "the kids" listen to, refuse to deal with the club scene, make references to a world before the girls were even born, and wonder why the females in their life won't dress in styles that they prefer. Perhaps they just don't want to help raise someone else's kids, but they get mad if the girl doesn't want to deal with their brats. Just because they're "older" doesn't mean that they've matured, or are capable of a real relationship.
There are certainly young straight women who are into older men, have father fixations, etc., but they're the exception rather than the rule. Biologically speaking it makes more sense for young women to mate with young men than some old guy with lousy sperm who may not be around to help raise any offspring they have.
[quote]for which he is expected to get an Oscar nomination
My baby's getting an Oscar nom???? Do tell!
Few people I know even go to movies anymore. But I keep thinking with all the baby boomer women getting older (there are a number of them), someone could strike a goldmine if they made a movie that appealed to them, like gibson with his religious flick. There's money to be made but it will probably take a woman or insightful man to do it. Right now, Hollywood is 50% gender blind, and I don't see it changing soon. So there will just be endless movies about comic book heroes for 12 year old boys to care about.
R18, Sandra Bullock is far from forgotten.
She's probably the most popular romantic comedy actress right now. She took a few years off, so her audience is missing her. Plus, her husband's multiple affairs garnered her a lot of extra sympathy from women.
Sandra and a younger man (or a younger woman) would be wonderful pairing.
Sandra Bullock, forgotten? Hardly. Did anyone see that hilarious nude shower video she did with Chelsea Handler on Chelsea's show?
"There are exceptions, of course, but if you gave a man a choice between a 20-year-old and a 50-year-old they would almost always choose the 50-year-old (unless the 20-year-old was ugly or had a horrible body)."
Oh, PUHLEASE! Give a woman the choice between a 20 year old man and a 50 year old woman they will ALWAYS pick a 20 year old. 50 year old men aren't hot. It's just societal propaganda but it's on its last legs.
January Jones is 34, Liam Neeson is 60. They were playing husband and wife in Unknown. Aidan Quinn, age 53, also played her husband (briefly) in the same film.
As long as the "industry" is run by men, this is what we'll get for "entertainment". If the public started demanding changes, then that would be a start.
Since childhood, I always thought most of the male leads in movies were anything but sexy. I often thought they were old and out of shape. Distinguished facial hair, physical aggression, and a smolderface never helped. I love celeb gossip, but I've never swooned over Hollywood's range of what they consider a sexy male love interest. And hey, with how scrawny Emma Stone is these days (not to mention still baby-faced), she's gonna look downright creepy hangin' with Mr. Cooper.
MPC is vile but, unfortunately, correct.
Thirty-five is the max for women, realistically 30 is the ceiling for being considered prime fuck bait.
The poster above who said that men will fuck whatever they can is also true. If straight men had their choice, though, it would be 15-16 year old.
"Thirty-five is the max for women, realistically 30 is the ceiling for being considered prime fuck bait."
Men lose their hotness around 28.
How soon are we going to read stories about the hot love affair of Bradley & Emma?
I feel sorry for gay men. Pining for straight men who don't want them no matter how young and hot they are. Fact is, a straight woman at any age can get laid very easily.
Trust me, all an older, halfway attractive woman has to do to get some young dick is let it slip that she doesn't think a young man has what it takes to satisfy her. LOL. Straight men are so competitive, they trip over their dicks trying to prove you wrong.
If you are over 22, you are no longer hot. It's over.
I agree with the OP, I'm in my early 20s, and even though I rarely think someone over 40 is hot, I remember that they are close to my parents age, and that solves the issue! I do find a lot of 30 year olds though, mm.
[quote]ROFLMAO. Men are far more attracted to young women than to old ones. There are exceptions, of course, but if you gave a man a choice between a 20-year-old and a 50-year-old they would almost always choose the 50-year-old (unless the 20-year-old was ugly or had a horrible body).
Just thought I'd chime in and say that my father is one of those exceptions. He's always preferred melodramatic women who are about 10 years older than he is. I've always thought this was due to his obvious emotional incest issues with his mother.
He's fucked teenage hookers in other countries, but always exclusively romanced the older ones (and now he's almost 70, so he's probably seen the end of it. I don't know. I don't talk to him).
As for straight women getting laid very easily? Overweight women seem to have a hell of a time. I have one large friend who settled for lesbian hookups, even though she's straight.
But yeah, straight men love them some teenage girls. My sister got hit on one time by this guy who asked if she was, "14?? 15??" When she responded that she was 18, he lost interest and walked away.
I think I would rather meet someone later in life who's ok with my aging face, than to find someone in my early 20s and later be blindsided by their disapproval of my 35-year-old face.
And yeah, Hollywood is quite a laugh.
"But yeah, straight men love them some teenage girls."
Cause straight men are fucked up. Adult gay men going after teenage boys are fucked up, too.
[quote]But yeah, straight men love them some teenage girls.
Yes, R47, let's generalize about ALL straight men because your teenage sister was stalked by a pedo. Most mature, well adjusted men (gay and straight) do not desire teenagers.
Hyperbole, R50, and not based on that single incident, at that. You really want to pick THIS example in terms of gross generalization on the internets?
Better question. How many mature, well-adjusted men are there?
That is a good question, r52. I also wonder whether, within the gay community, the ratio of mature/well-adjusted men to immature ones is greater, lower, or about the same as the ratio among straight males.
r53, definitely more fucked up gay men.
One can't be a targeted minority for any length of time before it fucks up the psyche.
If you include closeted gays as part of the community, the number of dysfunctional adults goes way up, IMHO.
OP,what is age-appropriate. Some adults don't date people based on age and dont share your ignorant, ageist view of dating. Get over it.
people don't like to look at women over 33....it reminds them of their mothers
this must like be the most butch/femme casting since Somersby
"people don't like to look at women over 33....it reminds them of their mothers"
People don't like to look at gay me ... they remind them of their mothers.
Why do a lot of people on this board claim things such as "You aren't hot over so and so age" some people have good genes and don't tan easily, therefore those kinds of things don't apply as early. Everyone isn't the same skin tone.
Back in the 50s Cary Grant was 30 years older than Sophia Loren in Houseboat, and Clark Gable 32 years older than her in It STarted in Naples. (she was in her early 20s, they were late 50s). Audrey Hepburn too was decades younger than her older co-stars like Astaire and Gary Cooper. Did no-one think that odd then ?
ME! I thought it was odd! But then again, I'm not extremely old...I simply got introduced to movies from earlier eras at a young age.
op=bitter old frau
Well, even if OP is a frau, he/she/it has a point. This type of under-questioned hegemony can effect many "types" of people in a negative way.
It's nice to see a thread about this. Like someone else said, it's so routine and part of Hollywood culture that it almost goes unnoticed. But when I started paying attention, I started seeing it everywhere, and I've realised how insane it is. And the very few times it happens even *slightly* in reverse, the actress gets raked over the coals (like Reese Witherspoon, who was [gasp!] 4 years older and 1 year older than her male co-stars in some recent film).
Considering that most film characters are male, it's hard enough for younger actresses to land great roles. For older actresses, it's nearly impossible. Most movies are made by men for men, and they have no interest in representing women fairly or equally.
I remember thinking it was nice to see an age-appropriate couple when Tina Fey and Steve Carell did that movie together, and even then they're eight or nine years apart.
r19 she was born in 67 and she looks great.
Bradley Cooper plays a mental patient in that movie (if that makes you feel better)
The real story is why Bradley Cooper would date a fat girl like Jennifer Lawrence
Whenever I think about this topic, I remember a great quote from the legendary Lillian Gish.
"Lionel Barrymore first played my grandfather, later my father, and finally, he played my husband. If he'd lived, I'm sure I'd have played his mother. That's the way it is in Hollywood. The men get younger and the women get older."
If 'Fatal Attraction' were re-made today, the Anne Archer part would be played by Rachel McAdams, the Glenn Close part would be played by Emma Stone, and the Michael Douglas part would still be played by Michael Douglas.
[quote]As for straight women getting laid very easily? Overweight women seem to have a hell of a time.
I'm female and overweight at 210lb. I have no trouble at all finding (attractive) men for both casual sex and relationships.
It is at least partially a response the the different career paths of male and female stars. Many male stars only become A-List leads in their 30s at the earliest. Actors like Daniel Craig and Bradley Cooper were around for years before they graduated to top stardom. Men in their 20s, often playing teenagers, are stuck in the teen rom-com love interest, genre action role, son of the A-Lister part. They look their age in real life terms, but look immature in Hollywood terms.
Lisa E was not born in 1955. Realist at 19 , are you referring to the character?
Eh, but WHY might the career paths slightly diverge like that? Probably because it's been arbitrarily decided that the female love interests should always be younger than the males. And sorry, Emma Stone looks like a (perhaps wasted, but nonetheless) 15.
How about Angelina Jolie's movies? Plenty of young males (and females) pay to see her flicks. Still Hollywood is ignoring reality. Young males often spend their money on video games. In some cities senior citizens flock to discount days at the movies. Why complain that revenues are down, if you're also ignoring huge blocks of potential movie goers? The real question is why don't Hollywood movers and shakers have more foresight?
How refreshing was it to see Liam Neeson (60) paired with Famke Janssen (47) in Taken 2? Only a 13 year difference! They probably could have ditched her for a younger woman after she played the shrewish ex-wife in the first one but instead she got upgraded to love interest.
Maybe it's just me, but I think Famke Janssen is still beautiful, and probably always will be.
[quote]That movie with CZJ and Sean Connery. Ludicrous.
Oh, gawd, that was creepy. I kept waiting for her grandpa to have a heart attack.
[quote]Why complain that revenues are down, if you're also ignoring huge blocks of potential movie goers? The real question is why don't Hollywood movers and shakers have more foresight?
I don't believe they have any idea what they're doing! I think they're all there from nepotism.
46 year old Patrick Dempsey and 26 year old Amanda Seyfried to star in romantic comedy "Wonderful Tonight".
In "The Great Gatsby" Jay and Daisy are supposed to be former young sweethearts, close to the same age. In the new version DeCaprio and Mulligan are actually only 10 years apart in age, but he does look about 20 years older.
I suppose their old romance took place when she was 17 and he was 35.
He looks rough for 40 and she looks like an adolescent. And there's absolutely NO WAY you could possibly tell me they have any kind of chemistry.
The one that has bothered me the most recently was in Looper. The older version of the character, played by Bruce Willis, who is 57 and is starting to look it, finally found love with some young Chinese woman, who looked late 20's, maybe early 30's. The guy is a taciturn hitman who is addicted to drugs, who ran through all his money, and this sweet young thing has been waiting her whole life for him? Right.
It also seriously bugs when we're presented with what is supposed to be a long term married couple with grown children, and the male actor is still 20 years older than the woman. A longer term couple would be close in age, it's the second marriage where you might see an age difference.
There are movies that pair actors of similar age, or films where the woman has a younger lover. It's Complicated had a same age love triangle with Meryl, Alec Baldwin (cheating on younger wife with first wife), and Steve Martin. Julianne Moore and Liam Neeson were pretty close in age for Chloe, and she's the one who got the hot young girl, LOL. Diane Ladd has sort of cornered the market on wife cheating on dull husband with hotter, younger guy, though Viggo Mortensen from Walk on the Moon is older than her, and Olivier Martinez from Unfaithful only three years younger, so I guess that tells you what Hollywood considers old
Hollywood can even be aggravating when they pair actors close in age. Does anyone buy Jonah Hill nabbing Emma Stone in any known galaxy? What about all the hotties they throw at that pathetic nebbish Michael Cera? All the fat dudes with hot wives? I just saw a trailer for The Details, where Tobey Maguire is apparently married to Elizabeth Banks, while banging Kerry Washington AND Laura Linney. Tobey is about the same age as EB and KW, and younger than LL, but can you buy him getting ANY of them, let alone all three at the same time? Ridiculous. And God, he was even supposed to be married to Natalie Portman in Brothers! And she was the love of Zach Braff's life in Garden State! No way an actress who looks like Tobey or Zach gets the male equivalent of these actresses as a love interest.
[quote]Diane Ladd has sort of cornered the market on wife cheating on dull husband with hotter, younger guy
Hardly surprising how men skew the game to their favor when they're in charge. The vast majority of women does not want a significantly older partner. But in Hollywood, they ALL do.
New movie Playing For Keeps has Gerard Butler (42) and Jessica Biel (30).
In 10 years she'll be playing his mother.
"In 10 years she'll be playing his mother."
In 5 years she'll be playing the "hot mom" of a 25-year-old actor on a sitcom
Why does anyone think Biel and Gerard Butler will work on camera, and why is he still getting romantic comedy offers when he's failed at several already? That movie is just a waste of money.
I can't believe they've cast Kristen Stewart and Ben Affleck as romantic interests and what's worse it's a romantic comedy! That's much worse than Biel or Butler.
In The Silver Linings Playbook novel, the Jennifer Lawrence character is actually four years older than the Bradley Cooper character....he's 32 and she is 36.
R94 - wow. And I bet they didn't even consider one actress over 30 when they cast the movie.
R86 Isn't Laura Linney about as attractive as Tobey? I like them both and find them cute, but see how neither of them is young Liz Taylor and Paul Newman gorgeous. Are you saying Tobey is ugly? I don't think that's an objective truth.
Laura Linney also gets gorgeous partners in films. And don't forget Bridget Jones.
[quote]Trust me, in the real world most 40-something guys do not look like Bradley Cooper. Most 20-year-old women are not dying to be with the 40-year-old guys you see waddling around Wal-Mart. Most guys wind up with women who are relatively close to their own age.
Very true. Go to any mall in America and look at the guys in their 40's they generally look every minute of their age and are out of shape. With Hollywood actors, however, it's a bit different. Advances in plactic surgery (they all do it) and cosmetic dermatology and dentistry (again, they all do it) have made Hollywood actors look a whole lot younger than they really are. Fortysomething actors like McBongo and Ewan McGregor could still pass for 30 and almost-40 actors like Ryan Phillippe and Bradley Cooper could believeably play late-20's. They all look much younger and fitter than men their age in the general population. Hollywood actors, in general, are much younger looking for their ages than they were a generation ago.
You could say the same for actresses 30+ or 40+. All very well preserved. But Hollywood still puts them out to pasture.
In what alternative universe could Bradley Cooper play late 20's? His face tells you his age. He's not young looking and because of his past booze history he's aged to the point where the botox, microdermabrasion, etc only allows him look his actual age.
There are some 30 and 40 something year old actresses who could play younger since they do look younger. Yet, they are still set up in films with old geezers or worse, not given the role since they are within 10 years of the male actors age. Sad.
I remember when they were thinking of doing a remake of The Thin Man a couple of months ago with 50 year old Johnny Depp, all of the women on the list to play Nora were a good 20-30 years younger than Johnny.
[quote]22 year old Kristen Stewart in talks to play opposite 40 y.o. Ben Affleck.
The other actress up for the part? 23 year old Emma Stone. Meanwhile, in real life, 40 year old Affleck is married to 39 year old Garner. But they would never cast him up against a 39 year old woman.
Sally Field is ten years older than Daniel Day-Lewis (and playing a character ten years younger than his)
No doubt Herbie in Gypsy will be significantly younger than Streisand
But for the most part you are correct.
R100 you're right. They were considering Emma Stone! 25 year age difference!
Wow, I didn't realize that, r94. That makes the whole thing even worse.
Did anyone see the episode of The Comeback where Valerie gets cast as a 60-year-old woman opposite an 80-year-old man? Not too far from the way Hollywood actually works.
Ben has recently been cast opposite women who are actually older than him. Diane Lane, Robin Wright, and Jennifer Aniston in Hollywood Land, State of Play and He's Just Not That Into You, respectively. On the other hand, his love interest in The Town, Rebecca Hall, is ten years younger, though at least she seems mature, unlike Stewart who still mopes around like a teenager. I didn't see The Company Men, so I have no idea if his character even has a love interest there, but Ben is almost 40, and that's the age where the men start getting cast against women much younger.
This is why the Hollywood powers that be need to be ignored. They're ignored in Europe where people aren't ashamed to age but Americans can be simpler and more gullible. Don't buy the hype. It's a business. A good example of this is how HW moguls portray the Old Guard wealthy on film for decades. It's their imagined version. They wouldn't know first hand, so they improvise and the public buys their version. Don't buy anything Hollywood is selling!
Yes, r101. It is like that because the men who rule Hollywood would rather look at a younger female and this gives those powerful men a chance to bed her. That is why the unrealistic pairings occur. Reality goes right out the window and American audiences are expected to buy this "normal". The big wigs in media don't care how it damages the psyche of women over a certain age. I understand the porn industry taking this stance with men and women but it has no place in print ads and film.
If you don't think the movie industry is hostile to women, read this:
"the male as lesser in courage strength and power than the female.
it may be ok for some but it is not my kind of manliness.
If you care to write reviews where men act like good strong men and have a heroic inspiring influence on young people to build up their character (if there are such movies being made) i will be glad to publish these.
i am not interested in supporting the reversing of traditional gender roles.
i don't want to associate the Niagara Falls Reporter with the trash of Hollywood and their ilk."
r110, Adam looks a lot younger, something with his features. When I first watched the show I appreciated that they had cast a young guy with an older women. Looked him up only to find out he was just about as old as Amy.
But yeah, its sometimes true about the audience passing harder judgement.
The J Lawrence/Bradley Cooper pairing was a little ridiculous, too.
"The audience is fickle, too. Amy Poehler is less than two years older than Adam Scott on Parks and Recreations, and some of the TWoP soccer moms complain that she's "too old" for him."
Don't think it's the "age" per se. I think people are more uncomfortable with a woman being the dominant partner in a relationship (which a woman is unlikely to be when she's much younger).
This should be posted in every casting director's office.
[quote]Sally Field is ten years older than Daniel Day-Lewis (and playing a character ten years younger than his)
This is going to be a handy example to fire back at people when they complain that Hollywood only casts young women opposite older men.
The Twop fraus are cunts who freak out anytime anything remotely fails to fully align with their sheltered, narrow perception of life. I wouldn't call them a typical audience (at least, I really hope they're not).
It's kind of creepy that when Bradley Cooper first hit it big in 2005 in Wedding Crashers, Jennifer Lawrence was 15.
Bradley Cooper first hit it big in 2001 with Alias. Jennifer Lawrence was 11.
Some women are so brainwashed by Hollywood that they can be just as sexist as men.
Re: Sally Field/Daniel Day Lewis - yes, that is a lovely exception, but exceptions are just that - exceptions.
Another exception coming up is Amy Adams playing Lois Lane opposite Henry Cavill in the new Superman movie. She's nine years older than he is, but I'm sure there will be 200 films out of Hollywood where it's still older man/younger woman to make up for it.
Age appropriate casting:
Older woman and younger man!
[r212]: there was a HUGE outcry about how Adams is too old for Cavill.
The Amy Adams casting rubbed some fans the wrong way but the biggest issue they had with her was that she was a redhead.
These people take their Superman mythology VERY seriously.
Redheaded, girl next door = Lana Lang. Brunette ass-kicker = Lois Lane.
Lois is often older than Clark in the comics, since she's supposed to be a successful journalist when Clark begins to work at the Daily Planet.
Every time I'm unlucky enough to see an ad for the new Gerard Butler/Jessica Biel movie, all I notice (besides how awful Gerard looks) is that he looks way too old for her. It's ridiculous.
Shortlist for female lead in Johnny Depp's (49) new movie: Rebecca Hall (30), Emily Blunt (29), Rooney Mara (27)
What r13 said a million times. Most young women do not fantasize about older guys. From the things I've heard they think it is kind of creepy for older guys to be interested in them so it is a big turn off.
Jeremy Renner (41) paired with Rachel Wiesz (42) in the recent Bourne Legacy was a good match.
According to Deadline the Depp leading lady will be playing his wife.
The plot of R126's movie is this: "Depp will play a scientist whose brain is uploaded after his death into a supercomputer by female scientist Evelyn."
So it's believable that Depp, the dead scientist, is fifty. It takes a long time for a scientist to hit the top of their field.
Which is why it's so silly to cast Rebecca Hall (30), Emily Blunt (29), Rooney Mara (27) as the second scientist. Is the character supposed to be a grad student or something?
Just now reading this thread for the first time. Interesting how much sand some of you have in your vaginas about this "older/younger" thing. A few comments:
[quote]Thirty-five is the max for women, realistically 30 is the ceiling for being considered prime fuck bait.
Right. Tell that to Jennifer Aniston, voted GQ's Sexiest Woman on the Planet at the age of 41 (seriously), or 40-year-old Cameron Diaz, or 46-year-old Halle Berry.
[quote]Why complain that revenues are down, if you're also ignoring huge blocks of potential movie goers?
Revenue isn't down because the studios are ignoring any segment targets. There are plenty of intelligent, well-made films that would appeal to older people of both genders. I'm already planning to see "Lincoln" and "Django Unchained" with my 64-year-old mom when home for Christmas in a couple of weeks, both films at *her* suggestion. (Over Thanksgiving we saw "Skyfall" at mine, and she loved it.) It's not like romances are the only films that appeal to filmgoers over 40!
Ben Affleck & Bradley Cooper looking "rough" or "old" - proof positive that you bitches have been BLINDED by Hollywood. Not only does neither of them look old, they both look AMAZING for their age. I'd suggest looking at the head of an average 40-year-old and observing the saggy/droopy eyes, large nasolabial folds, thick brow furrows, etc., and *then* try to gauge Ben & Bradley's hotness level. (Btw if you want to see someone who *really* looks old for his age, try Gordon Ramsay.)
Henry Cavill being too "young" for Amy Adams - I consider this de facto payback for audiences being expected to buy 23-year-old Kate Bosworth as 35-year-old Lois in "Superman Returns." To think she's supposed to be five years *older* than Margot Kidder in the first two originals! Anyway, Amy can pass for 30ish and Clark's supposed to be 3-4 years younger than Lois anyway (at *least*), so I don't have trouble with this concept.
CZJ & Sean Connery - you seriously think this is a "farce" considering she's married IRL to a man 30 years her senior?? (and not that much older than Connery)
Hot women dating "ugly" men - first of all, you bitches need to calibrate your definition of "ugly." Zach Braff, for instance, may not be "traditionally hot," but compared to the bald & obese fuggos you encounter in your day-to-day lives at Walmart or wherever, he's practically a Playgirl centerfold. I don't find it remotely implausible that he played Natalie Portman's love interest in "Garden State." That said: yes, I do find the obese comedian/hottie-much-younger wife thing to be ridiculous, but keep in mind that these shows are de-facto wish fulfillment for all the obese fuggos out there who *wish* they were married to someone like Jenny McCarthy.
Finally, I'm amazed no one's mentioned an *actually* creepy age-differential combo: Bill Murray romancing Scarlett Johansson in "Lost in Translation." She was 17 at the time of filming!! (and he was 52) Her character was supposed to be 25ish, but still.
[quote]Tell that to Jennifer Aniston, voted GQ's Sexiest Woman on the Planet at the age of 41
I stopped reading after that.
[quote]I've been watching The Good Wife recently and am sad to say that Hollywood has apparently taught me to believe that it's strange and even difficult to believe that the Will Gardner character (Josh Charles, b. 1971) would be attracted to /fall in love with Alicia Florrick (Julianna Margolis, b. 1966). But of course, such an attraction/relationship wouldn't be unusual in real life at all.
On the show, they were college classmates; they're supposed to be around the same age.
I saw the trailer for Gangster Squad last weekend, and Emma Stone looked like a little girl playing dress-up. A 23-year-old shouldn't have been able to get anywhere near that role.
Supposedly this kind of casting is done to appeal to teenage audiences. The thinking is if you have two older people in the film teenagers think it is a movie for old people (their parents) and won't go.
R135 yup and there are very few "older" women (like 2 maybe 3) who can open a film while there are still a number of men who can...so, the young spouse/significant other role typically goes to the woman by default.
If there were more female stars in the late 30/forty range who could open films we'd probably see more young men being cast as their love interests.
R136 how do you know this if more women aren't even given the chance? Don't you see how that works?
It's always funny to see an actress in her 20s playing roles like a doctor or scientist etc.
If a woman is older than a man in the movie that's what THE ENTIRE movie is about.
R137 I never said it was a good situation, but it's the reality of it. It's a very difficult thing to change in this female-youth obsessed culture.
But I think things are slowly improving. Digital post production has definitely prolonged the careers of many actresses (digital touch up of actresses is not uncommon on big budget films). So if the technology continues to improve maybe there'll come a day when Meryl Streep can be retouched to look like Megan Fox and be able to play young wife roles until she retires.
"Supposedly this kind of casting is done to appeal to teenage audiences. The thinking is if you have two older people in the film teenagers think it is a movie for old people (their parents) and won't go."
So what kind of genius decides that preferred young audiences don't want to see Charlize Theron because she's over thirty... but they DO want to see fifty-year-old Tom Cruise in everything?
Seriously, if the best movie consumer is a young male, you'd think they'd be putting more young males in leading roles. But no, they still want to put Brad Pitt in everything.
If Charlize could open a movie she would be toplining more wide releases like Angelina Jolie. Unfortunately, audiences don't really like her.
Lesbian over 40 here. Men hit on me quite often. Usually it's men who are my age or older but often it's younger men as well. I never intentionally encourage it and do not understand it. My girlfriend is 11 years younger than me and, in my opinion, much better looking, but when we go out the men hit on me not her. She says it's either the big boobs or the gregarious personality.
In case you were wondering, I am no femme fashion plate, usually wearing t-shirts and long shorts (or jeans) with sneakers, certainly not dressed to attract men.
I think straight men will give it a shot with almost any female they think will at least not turn them down. They might not be looking for a relationship with an older woman, but they damn sure will hook up with one. If I wanted sex with a man, I would have no trouble finding it.
Well, for truly TEENAGE audiences, age-similar leads have been known to be cast. While typically horrible movies, the "chemistry" is more believable in these types of films. Two decent-looking people that age, who experience two-ish hours worth of teenage drama and hijinks together, are likely to hook up.
I think all but the most shallow men don't really care how old a woman is as long as they find her attractive. There are plenty of attractive "older" women.
R146 yes, but it's about appealing to *young* males. I think that young males are more likely to find a young starlet attractive than a ravishing woman of a certain age.
Just see the uproar when women in their mid-thirties are cast in these comic book films.
Just saw an ad for 1600 Penn... Bill Pullman and Jenna Elfman as the President and First Lady... age difference, 18 years.
Kevin Kline and Dakota Fanning to play Errol Flynn and his last girlfriend... In real life they were 33 years apart, onscreen they will be 47 years apart.
Funny how everyone is parading around Sally Field in Lincoln as an example, but Field herself went from playing Tom Hanks' love interest in Punchline, to playing his mother a couple of years later in Forrest Gump.
And 149 posts and no mention of Woody Allen? You have to go back to the early 70's to find him acting opposite a woman his own age.
I don't know any men who ever found Charlize hot. Hollywood seems to think it's about showing an actress naked, and then promoting her as desirable. No, it's an attitude, a look, an appreciation of a man and a male body, that makes a woman of any age sexy. What young actresses portray truly portray this on screen today? How about a poll?
R1 is correct. If the males making these movies could get away with it, they'd go all the way for statuatory rape.
So let's see a 35-year-old actor have cast as his leading lady some really hot 15-year-old girl!
[quote]Funny how everyone is parading around Sally Field in Lincoln as an example, but Field herself went from playing Tom Hanks' love interest in Punchline, to playing his mother a couple of years later in Forrest Gump.
they weren't love interests in Punchline...Sally was married to John Goodman
Even so, 153. A good part of the movie was about the attraction between Hanks and Field's characters.
IIRC, the movie and the comedy in it were quite bad. Though the bit about the minister on the cable access show having to fill in for the host of "Lesbian Lunch Box" was inspired.
Jennifer Lawrence cast as Christian Bale's wife in David O. Russell's next film.
Women age in dog years. I do not want to see an old bag sex it up with a hot guy.
Sally Field very nearly didn't get the part in Lincoln due to the age difference. Spielberg had her do a screen-test, after which he told her he wasn't going to cast her because he was worried about it seeming "unrealistic." The only reason she eventually ended up with the part is because Daniel Day-Lewis stepped in at the last minute and changed Spielberg's mind. Good for DDL.
Funny how Spielberg and other Hollywood producers aren't the least bit worried about realism pertaining to older male/much younger female couples on screen.
JLaw is what, 22 years old. Bale is pushing 40 (he's 39 per Wikipedia). He's nearly TWICE her age, adding that he at times looks well over 40 and she looks like a teen it could ruin what was thought to be a great project with spotless casting. Just ugh.
52-year-old Colin Firth and 24-year old Emma Stone to star in Woody Allen's next film. No word on if they play a couple, but seeing who is making it, I wouldn't be surprised.
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