Big Brother is now monitoring the internet

...and will send you warnings if you use bit torrent sites.

http%3A//www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/tech/web/copyright-alert-system/index.html%3Fhpt%3Dhp_bn5

Only if you're American.
Options -> Preferences -> Bittorrent -> Protocol Encryption -> Outgoing: Enabled Done.
America is in a bad place right now.
Whatever. As an artist, I support the crack down on illegal downloading. Its a shitty thing to do and seriously impacts people's livelihood.
And yes, I know there are legitimate uses for these sites. So use them legally and it will be OK!
R4 = Corbin Fisher
r4 = RIAA shill. Hey there, bud, if you were really an artist, and if you're signed with a major label, you won't be seeing one red cent for your work. If artists want to make money, they need to perform. I guess you're not talented enough to do that, which then you really don't deserve a penny. Albums are merely marketing tools for live shows. They don't make money. The internet isn't going anywhere. Pirating isn't going anywhere. This is a waste of time by a Fascist industry that wants to bully the entire world so that it can continue to rip off its workers, and continue to churn out shit product. Hollywood threatened to cut off any funding to Obama if he didn't sign their legislation. He still hasn't, and he's paying the price for daring to go against them. This was what SOPA was all about. [quote]America is in a bad place right now. The UK cannot access PirateBay. The government shut down access. It ain't just America.
I'm not a shill. I'm a visual artist. Its not just musicians losing money. I agree musicians need to perform. And lots of their music is given away for free to promote live shows. I'm talking about a whole industry that is being cheated out of money by illegal downloading. I know the internet isn't going away but people need to respect copyrights!
R4
Sad to say, thanks to torrents good gay porn and good gay themed movies are almost extinct.
Torrenting wouldn't be so popular if the content were easier to obtain. A perfect example: I missed an episode of Fringe because my damn DVR hiccuped and failed to record it. It's shown exactly once a week. No problem, I thought, I'll go to the website. And... you can't watch the episode until two days AFTER the FOLLOWING episode airs. WHAT THE FUCK? So I have to miss ANOTHER episode, and wait over a week, to catch up? Who fucking thinks of that shit? So of course stupid idiotic crap like that is going to drive people to find a torrent so they can watch it (and discuss it with friends) BEFORE the next episode airs. If content providers and studios weren't so fucking stupid and clueless, torrenting wouldn't be such a huge problem.
R10, the situation you describe is the result of more copyright restrictions!
"Copyright" is so broken in this country.
How should the copyright laws be changed in this country?
I'd agree with you, r4/r5, if, when the feds went after MegaUpload, they had only taken down illegally hosted files. Instead, everyone who used it for storage or to share (legal) files lost everything without warning. Not that we needed more evidence, but they're clearly not interested in what's "legal" or in protecting artists' products. If they were, where's my compensation for the files I lost?
Copyright should extend for no longer than 20 years. After that, public domain. Period. You shouldn't have to negotiate every single media type separately either. If a show is produced it should just be avialable for consumption... TV, internet, mobile device, DVD, whatever. Shit where you have to wait over a week to see a TV show on the network's website is just fucking ridiculous.
Since 9/11, everyone in this country is under the watchful eye of NSA NTOC centers that monitor your brainwaves through satellite tracking and cell-tower transmissions 24/7. Everyone in this country can be mind-controlled at will. For example, if this country were to be invaded, signals would be broadcasted through the gazillion of cell towers that would make everyone report to regional armories around the country. All the data gathered is stored on super computers in various locations. Since the brain has no firewall, it can also receive brainwave patterns that do everything from controlling your mood to duplicating disease symptoms to assisting you with your daily job functions. Sublimal messages are also sent on a daily basis to morally guide U.S. citizens. Everything from controlling your sex drive and drug craving for research and practical purposes to preparing you for major events in your life. The New World Order has already begun you fools.
http://www.dataasylum.com/gangstalking-targeted-individual-information.html
Why should the creations of individuals suddenly become public domain after 2 decades? Is your stance different for patents held by corporations that could potentially benefit society if made into public domain? It sounds to me like you've bought into an idea espoused by corporations who want to use anything they want without having to pay the "little people".
R17, if you cannot monitize your creation or invention (whether copyright or patent) given a full generation... then give up the rights to someone who can. Seriously.
I agree with you R14. That was a bad way to handle MegaUpload and you probably should be compensated. That doesn't change the fact that something better still needs to be done to deal with the problem of illegal downloading. And since when do you have to wait a week to catch something you missed on your DVR? Most stations offer PrimeTime on demand online and on cable with shows on the next day or two. And they usually have fewer commercials.
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R19: [quote]d since when do you have to wait a week to catch something you missed on your DVR? Most stations offer PrimeTime on demand online and on cable with shows on the next day or two. Clearly you've never looked into it. It's true of SOME shows on SOME channels. The number of times I've had to wait a week or more ... I've lost count. And on some MAJOR shows too. GLEE and Fringe among them. Some shows, some channels, will show multiple times during the week. That's cool. Others are available on the web the next day. Others are "on demand" immediately. It's a fucking crap-shoot. You never know. You have to spend a fair amount of effort in some cases trying to figure it out. It shouldn't be such a patch-work quilt of nonsense, and it shouldn't be difficult. Game of Thrones is another pefect example. People were willing to PAY for it, but the ONLY way to watch it was to have both a Cable subscription AND an HBO subscription. If HBO had put it on their site and made it avialble for a few bucks per episode, they would have raked in money, and the show wouldn't have been anywhere near the number one torrented show in history.
THIS puts it perfectly:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
R18, the decision to make a work public domain should be made by its creator. What if I found some 30 year old scripts written by someone who made no money from, sold them to a studio, and made millions of dollars? If you had your way, the original creator of those songs would be SOL. Please give me the addresses of your artist friends and relatives. I'd like to go to their homes, find work they've created that's more than 20 years old which haven't been "monetized", take it all, then put it in the public domain.
R22, if you're able to parlay it into money, while the original creator just sits on it, hiding it, and not benefiting at all from it, why shouldn't you be able to? Seriously, are you even listening to yourself? Or do you hate on all the shakespear in the park stuff... all that public domain stuff from the turn of the century. If you want to quibble with the 20 years, fine, make it 30. But 70, 90, 150... those are ridiculous. And after the creator is dead? Sorry, it shouldn't go to the family either. PUBLIC DOMAIN.
The term of a copyright should be long enough so that it is likely to outlast the person who created the material. That was the original intention. The law should protect people who create material, not people who simply take other people's material and try to profit off of it. It's aimed at protecting artists, not leeches. However, the current situation, where Congress extends the term of a copyright every time Disney's copyright on Mickey Mouse is about to expire mocks the entire idea of copyright.
"if you're able to parlay it into money, while the original creator just sits on it, hiding it, and not benefiting at all from it, why shouldn't you be able to?" In other words, you think someone should be able to make money on someone else's 20 or 30 year old work without the original creator having any say in the matter. In fact, by making it public domain, the original creator wouldn't make any money at all while you reap the benefits of his or her work. Your argument comes down to greed. If someone can make money on someone else's 20 or 30 year old work it's ok, right? It's all about money, so who cares about what the artists, even if they're poor, want. They don't matter. I'm still waiting for you to give me the addresses for your artist friends and neighbors.
[quote]In other words, you think someone should be able to make money on someone else's 20 or 30 year old work without the original creator having any say in the matter People do it with 90 year old material... why not 30? Again, are you even listening to yourself? It's not like making money off of something 30 years old is EASY, you know. [quote]However, the current situation, where Congress extends the term of a copyright every time Disney's copyright on Mickey Mouse is about to expire mocks the entire idea of copyright. THIS.
Libraries should be banned. It's the same goddamn thing, getting materials that are copyrighted for nothing. Try talking your way out of that one. The government needs hands off of the internet except when it comes to child pornography, and terrorist activity. Pirating is going nowhere. Accept it, and move the fuck on. The industry is dragging its feet like it always does. It needs to move into the 21st century already. And r8, what type of "visual artist." I download films that I can't get in my country, and the odd television episode that I've missed. For the most part I stay away from MP3s, but even musicians are admitting to receiving them from friends. The truth of the matter is, copyrighted material prior to a few years ago, does NOT extend to the internet. The industry can try finding loopholes, but that's the reality. Television series that are put out on DVD, have to alter the music a lot of times because clearance is too expensive. However, if those shows are sold to Hulu, they don't have to remove anything. Why? Because everything was copyrighted before the internet took over the world. The RIAA and MPAA are fucking evil. They now run out government like the NRA, and so many others. Many of you need to wake the fuck up. We're beyond the slippery slope. These industries own politicians. Look at what Obama was put through because of not being willing to sign off on a piece of legislation known as SOPA. All images on the web are copyrighted. The majority are not paid for. That means that all the nude photos you guys view on here are illegal, and you should be prosecuted.
File-Sharers More Likely to Pay for Movies, Books, Games and Concerts A comprehensive report published by the Dutch Institution for Information Law and CentERdata reveals that compared to the rest of the population, file-sharers are more likely to pay for movies, books, games, concerts and box office tickets. The report further reveals that blocking websites such as The Pirate Bay does very little to deter consumers from sharing copyrighted files online. Earlier this week research from the Columbia University affiliated American Assembly found that U.S. file-sharers buy 30% more music than their non-sharing music owning peers. Two days later the Dutch Institution for Information Law and CentERdata have published a related report which goes even further. The survey finds that more than a quarter (27.2%) of Dutch citizens, 16 years old and up, have downloaded from illegal sources during the past year. Interestingly, however, the same data also shows that these file-sharers are more likely to be paid consumers of a wide variety of media and entertainment, even when the results of the 2,009 respondents are controlled for age. (continued at link)
http://torrentfreak.com/file-sharers-buy-more-movies-121018/
[quote]Libraries should be banned. It's the same goddamn thing, getting materials that are copyrighted for nothing. I get the equivalence you're trying to make, but libraries don't just pay retail for DVDs/CDs/etc... they pay plenty extra for public performance rights, owing to these very copyright laws.
Whatever...I love torrents and would not see an tv without them.
Good! about Damn Time too! We have to stop online theft, it is destroying the Music industry. You want to know how music began to be so crappy today.....because there is no money in making good music, the only money is in making 14 year old girls scream. (understand why Justin Bieber exists now?)
R31, the reason the music industry sucks right now is because of the labels and the suits. I look a lot at the recording industry, and what i see are people panicked trying to protect an old way of doing something during a sea-change... like when it was mandated that all new automobiles sold includ a buggy-whip, so the buggy-whip manufacturers didn't go out of business. It's ridiculous. It was Napster that dragged them kicking and screaming into the future... they're so far behind what customers want, and only recently starting to actually provide it. The model is changing, and the infrastructure needs to change with it. Ditto with TV, movies, and video. Again, I point to the link at R21 for a great example. People WANT to pay for their content. The stupid suits aren't letting them. SO the people go to torrent instead, and the suits (and the artists) lose out. I know you want to put ALL the blame on consumers, but why not put most of it on the business that refuses to give consumers what they are willing to pay for?
There is nothing wrong with physical media being replaced by digital media, it was eventually going to happen. What is wrong, is failing to control the illegal transfers - read theft, of digital media. That is why SOPA MUST be passed ASAP! There was a time when running shoes were stacked right below the display models, but then running shoes became high fashion items, theft skyrocketed and now, you have digital tags or have to ask the sales person to bring out a pair. Things changed to stop the theft. They didn't have useless discussions in Congress about keeping the running shoes on the floor. The real issue is the insane Congressional debates over passing SOPA. Just pass the fuc*king thing already! STOP THEFT NOW!
People who back SOPA are just so fucking ignorant. Ugh.
You are nuts r33 - When have running shoes even been high fashion?!
[quote] If HBO had put it on their site and made it avialble for a few bucks per episode, they would have raked in money, Gee, if only SOMEONE would have thought of that...
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[quote]I'm not a shill. I'm a visual artist. Its not just musicians losing money. Translation: I'm unemployed and I need to blame it on the internet.
[quote]I know the internet isn't going away but people need to respect copyrights! I don't disagree it's stealing but I also think copyright holders need to get realistic. There is a different vibe about the internet, a whole different culture and expectation. So copyright holders need to start getting flexible about when people can buy their product. If something is UK produced and airs in September, but a US broadcaster has rights to air it the following January, it's stupid to tie it up for internet purchase until January. Besides, the number of people who buy it before it hits theatres or tvs etc is probably minimal. Maybe it's the last gasp of a dying business model but in the end if people want it, they're going to get it, so copyright holders better figure out how to make money fast... and it won't be by pretending the old rules still apply.
So, record companies should spend millions on content so people can consume it for free? What kind of business model is that? The recording industry might have ripped off artists for decades but it also reinvested its profits into creating new work. I don't see the Pirate Bay or YouTube doing that.
No, they shouldn't let people consume it for free. But if demand is outpacing availability, good business people figure out how to capitalize on that. The model is changing, the culture is changing, they need to figure it out because they're trying to prop up a model that isn't sustainable in the long run.
R27 doesn't understand anything about how libraries operate or how they're funded.
How does "illegally" downloading a movie, or waiting a few months for it to come to HBO makes any difference in royalties paid to anyone? As far as "renting" the movie, I gave up on those in 1993. It's not going to happen. I also don't buy DVDs anymore. You watch them once and they sit around forever.
[quote] Television series that are put out on DVD, have to alter the music a lot of times because clearance is too expensive. However, if those shows are sold to Hulu, they don't have to remove anything. Why? Because everything was copyrighted before the internet took over the world. You really have NO fucking clue.
[quote]So, record companies should spend millions on content so people can consume it for free? What kind of business model is that? Uh, no idiot. Nobody is saying that. Why do you morons always make with these ridiculous straw-man arguments? Pirate Bay is a response/reaction to a hole in the market... demand that is not being met. It's not a business model. It's a consequence of a BAD business model. Duh.
[quote]You want to know how music began to be so crappy today.....because there is no money in making good music, the only money is in making 14 year old girls scream. The Beatles were making 14 year old girls scream in 1964, but they were making good music. The record industry (alway looking for a formula) is to blame as well as corporate owned radio stations (always looking for a formula). Good music happened because artists were leading the way and the "suits" were just trying to keep up. Tours weren't "sponsored" by corporations. Tickets were cheap. cheap. cheap. Check out this Beatles 1965 Hollywood Bowl ticket. $5 in 1965 = $35 in 2010 (govt. inflation calc) Can you imagine THE FUCKING BEATLES LIVE AT THE HOLLYWOOD BOWL for $35? No way, no day. The greedy music industry has slit it's own throat.
http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20090619/P1050358A_610x141.jpg
[italic]Good! about Damn Time too! We have to stop online theft, it is destroying the Music industry. You want to know how music began to be so crappy today.....because there is no money in making good music, the only money is in making 14 year old girls scream. (understand why Justin Bieber exists now?)[/italic] Oh, Justin Bieber wouldn't be here if pirating didn't exist. Debbie Gibson and Tiffany got huge because of pirating? You're the same type to cry that MTV killed the radio star! "Madonna wouldn't be here if we didn't have music videos! Get rid of them!!!" Go die in a grease fire! You're too dumb to live. 13 year old girls are going to whack off to Frank Sinatras.
All of these cunts bad-mouthing pirating, I'd love to see what's on their computers.
[quote][R27] doesn't understand anything about how libraries operate or how they're funded. Just because libraries pay, that doesn't mean that they pay enough to cover every potential sale of a product every time media is checked out from them.
...seed boxes...
R27's reply at r48 proves that he doesn't know anything about how libraries operate or are funded. His reply at r46 also proves that he's mad... R45 doesn't understand inflation or the fact that ticket prices to go and see big acts live are so expensive these days precisely because record companies and artists are losing money from record sales that they're making up for it by charging loads elsewhere. But, to take a cue from r46, does r45 really think that there weren't any Debbie Gibsons and Tiffanies back in the 1960s?
R32 nailed it 100%. That's the reason. Figure it out Sony Corporation et al. It's up to you to harness the modern technology of the age instead of spending all your time trying to stop it. People want to download music and movies now. No-one is going to the theatres anymore no matter how many 3-D remakes you vomit out in the desperate hope that it will fix an industry that is rigidly stuck in the Eighties. People want to watch movies at home. They want to download them to their living rooms. They only want selected tracks of albums electronically - not always the whole thing. They don't want CD's anymore. Another poster said he has stopped buying DVDs because he watches them once and then they sit around the house never to be used again. Nailed it again. And most importantly - they want it NOW. Right now and they wont wait. Because they can get it right now with a torrent. It's up to you to figure out how to drag the dying movie and music industries in the present day - not us. You fix it and we will pay in droves. Stop playing the victim.
People are so entitled nowadays. China's copyright infringement/violation of U.S. intellectual property is costing us TRILLIONS of dollars a year, but many people (46,47,48) follow China's logic that if it's there for the taking, you should grab it and exploit it.
R51 is correct. I download lots of British tv shows online. It is illegal. It is also the ONLY way to watch those shows in the U.S. If I could pay a few bucks per download to do it legally I would. But that option is not available. And no, the shows I watch are not available on BBCAmerica. I would gladly pay to watch them but that is NOT an option.
As a academic librarian, I deal with copyright on a regular basis. And I agree, the restrictions are ridiculous, and it's all to do with the fear of authors and publishers that they are going to lose out financially. Set the limit at 20 years and be done with it! If you don't like it, don't create something you're intending to market. If you knew the hoops we had to jump through just to make something available for educational purposes...
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html