I know I'm like 15 years late, but I watched it today at the gym. The TV on the treadmill was stuck on that channel. I had never watched it before, other than clips on Stewart and a few O'Reilly segments.
I literally couldn't believe what I was watching. It was like a parody without any humor. It would have been fine it if was like The Daily Show, meaning funny, intelligent, satire that happened to lean right. But, I...just. No words. It was like snotty brats loudly whispering secrets, lies, and half truths about classmates within ear shot. And I'm not a crazy liberal at all. I'm all for hearing all sides of the debate. But this was... just. I just. Ugh.
FoxNews is polarizing and ruining America.
Roger Ailes has NO SHAME.
Rupert Murdoch is a cancer on the U.S. body politic.
Just seeing "Fair & Balanced" under the logo makes my blood pressure rise.
war is peace
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
They're not supposed to do this sort of thing domestically, but I always figured that brainwashing this effective must originate with some '3 letter' agency.
I watch them when I want some comic relief and I'm bored with MSNBC. I rarely watch CNN. Most of the anchors and commentators are right out of Ed Wood. Busty, blonde bimbos. Angry brunettes with big teeth. I mean really big teeth. Trolls. Mummies. An old guy with a voice like a bull frog who appears so pickled he can never remember the topic they are discussing. Self-aggrandizing, bloviating buffoons. All spining the same shit. Yes, I know it's scary that most of the true believers who watch FOX still think the Earth is flat, but that's not going to change just cause I watch once in a while.
My experience with Fox has been limited to reading about them and their approach to news (including the use of numerous blond bimbettes to deliver it without reflection) and an occasional clip. I have a Spanish satellite package which omits Fox News. When I house sat for a neighbor, I watched a bit here and there. Most stunning was Glenn Beck's show. He had an audience participation format the afternoon I channel surfed into it. The topic was home schooling. He and the audience raved about it. It was horrifying and sad because if the audience comments were any indication of the intellectual rigor they would exercise at home, their kids are doomed.
Fox News to me is laughable.
What infuriates me to no end is gay Republicans who insist that Republicans -- because they're Republicans -- are better for the economy, despite the fact that all they advocate is deregulation and tax cuts that nearly destroyed the economy and millions of lives with it.
And then those gay Republicans claim they're not greedy or stupid, because they think the economy is more important than anything -- which really proves that they are both greedy and stupid -- wealth at the expense of rights, justice, and all those other things they consider less important than making money.
I expect more of gay people than I do Fox News....
I love seeing the clip of the blond one from the three friends at Fox, Steve Doocy, actually reading from the list of talking points that they are given before the show starts. Talking points memos are usually denied by everyone there, but here he was, on TV, reading from the list. Gretchen was absolutely horrified and it showed up on her face. It was look of: "What the fuck are you doing reading from that list?"
The other is the dark haired one who reacted to the alleged discovery of a Mrs. Jesus Christ by turning to the camera and reverently uttering: "Lucky Lady!"
Don't forget about me....need someone to fuck me
What is really scary to me is when I travel for business and have to stay in hotels like a Marriott Courtyard, the TVs don't even have MSNBC or BBC. Just FOX. And they always have it tuned in the breakfast room. And it's just scary to watch the people in there actually watching and sucking it in.
The masses really are stupid. I have fantasies of crashing the screen a la the 1984 Apple Super Bowl ad and freeing their minds.
It's the Ministry of Truth, people.
Roger Ailes travels with bodyguards and bought up all the houses near his home in order to keep them empty. He has a blast proof office at Fox News.
Doocey was hired as a weatherman, Kilmeade was the spots guys and the blond bimbo was a used up Beauty Queen. None had political science background. They just agreed to drink the Kool-Aid and repeat the talking points. That's Fox News' crack team of Political Pundits.
it is GENUINELY an ingenious brainwashing device.
Its entire set-up as a "news source".
People I know and love only watch Fox and TRULY they are living on another planet.
So much I refuse to interact with them in any intimate ways. Just the casual hello, and mutual respect.
Why? Much like a cult, you cannot change their minds, or I refuse to waste any more time trying to prove TRUTH.
When you can't prove truth (e.g., they disbelieve climate change), these once rational people are lost.
When my sister-in-law attributed Obama's administration to "getting a knife twisted up your anus" I asked a few questions, and lo and behold, she was taking the "talking points" of Fox and mixing them up in her head, but what she knows is Obama "lied about Ben Ghazzi".
I cannot tolerate it anymore.
Thanksgiving is on its way. Obama must win.
Mittens dutifully spat out a Fox News talking point at Tuesday's debate - that Obama didn't call Benghazi an "act of terror" until 14 days after the attack. The stunned look on his face when Candy Crowley contradicted him said it all - Fox Noise told him that was true, and by golly he was sticking with it!
And then the pundits, confronted with EASILY PROVEN REALITY, just kept pushing back. Now they're insisting that Crowley be fired from CNN for daring to toss out the truth.
It's scary to watch their talking points directly collide with reality.
I saw a weekend edition of "Fox and Friends" a couple weeks ago when I was marooned with family in South Carolina. It wasn't the weekday Steve Doocey crew, but a new set of two men and a blonde bimbo. What was so shocking to me was how GAY the two men were. One of them was most definitely gay (the older one) and I'd bet a blowjob, the younger, dark-haired one was no stranger to cock either.
[quote] Now they're insisting that Crowley be fired from CNN for daring to toss out the truth.
How DARE a journalist engage in fact checking! How DARE a journalist be interested in telling the truth!
Sean Hannity creeps me out. There's something not right about him.
R17 touches on precisely why the mind of a FOX viewer is a damaged one. They do not believe in taking any responsibility whatsoever for their own failings. They also think that MSNBC is the other side of the spectrum. The hell it is.
Despite the fact that every time Mitt lied every time he opened his mouth in the first debate, MSNBC still blamed Obama himself for his piss-poor performance. They didn't claim Lehrer was in the bag for Mitt or that there was some conspiracy. They didn't have a bimbo host say that Obama should've decked Mitt (Bimbo said Ryan should've decked Biden).
In the FOX mind, any anchor/journalist who isn't a Fascist and who doesn't spend the entire broadcast calling Obama a "communist/socialist/Kenyan/Muslim out to destroy America," is a liberal. Pointing out rightwing fallacies makes you a liberal.
There is no truth in their world. You are a liberal if you do not accept their conjecture, their lies and their delusions as the truth.
[quote]Sean Hannity creeps me out. There's something not right about him.
Irish Catholic trash from LI. College dropout and ex-construction worker with no political background and no foreign policy background, spewing bigoted, ignorant hateful garbage.
The above doesn't creep me out... the fact that he is paid millions of dollar for spewing that garbage is what creeps me out.
God, you all put it so much more articulately than I did. It WAS something from an Ed Wood movie. But real and powerful and severely damaged. And what's sad is that if I discuss this with my family (who watch it was a varying degree of dedication), I will just be swept under the rug as a loony liberal.
O'Reilly was a two-bit hack at Channel 7 in Boston. He hosted a show called "Look" to dismal ratings.
Rush Limbaugh changed his name and comes from suspect background.
Yet the drones just keep believing the mantra.
It is a brainwashing device.
Steve Doocy's son is now a Fox "reporter." Must be seen to be believed.
r23: the Keebler elves' treehouse must have been cropped out of that photo!
Did anyone else just get glitter bombed after clicking on R23's link?
Speaking of nepotism, was anyone else just watching MSNBC right now?
I didn't think Russert's son could be anymore of a douche, but then they just showed him walking on set towards the panel. He even walks like an entitled, self-satisfied, arrogant douche!
If it matters, I always thought Russert pere was a putz. The acorn never falls very far from the tree.
Nepotism stinks everywhere.
You read my mind, r27. We can thank Chuck Todd for Luke Russert being on out teevees. I love Alex Wagner, but the way she pandered to him, it was no wonder he walked out with a swagger. Why he couldn't just be seated at the panel escapes me. He looks lke Officer Doofy from Scary Movie.
And I don't know why there isn't a "Truth News" or something to counter.
Why has this been left for so long?
A lot of Fox programming makes sense when you see it as an analogue to 24-hour Christian television.
The "Fox and Friends" could be transplanted to the 700 Club with no changes, and Glenn Beck (who is no longer on Fox) was no different than a televangelist.
I don't watch the channel, but it is on all around me, so I can't help but notice it. It is quite an ingenious model. They get pretty girls to read the news and then put two people, a republican and a weak democrat to fight with the host backing up the republican 100% of the time. It is nothing more than propaganda masked as entertainment masked as news.
At my gym, we also have the individual television's. I generally stick with MSNBC while I'm on the eliptical or treadmill.
However, once in a while I channel surf, and I get so embarrassed that others will see me watching that crap if I leave Fox News on for any length of time.
I'd rather have people see me watching the home shopping channel than Fox.
good point r31.
R31 you're so right. Gretchen Carlson's hair makes sense now.
what are gretchen's Journalism bone fides?
God. You just KNOW Doocy's kid trolls for subway dick.
R36. I believe Gretchen was once Miss Minnesota. That's often enough experience.
R36's post made my computer sad.
I only watch Fox News when I can't avoid seeing it, such as an airport terminal, a bar, coffee etc. and it takes all my reserve to not scream back at the TV in a public place. The half-truths and outright lies are unbelieveable, and the smugness of the anchors and 'jounalists' (a term used loosely) is so irritating. I cannot believe anyone with an IQ over 80 can watch that shit and not see it for the blatant propaganda it is.
And Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity remind me of my drunken, blue-collar Irish uncles with anger issues. They don't know shit about anything, but think they do and will go on and on about it.
My college roommate has a retired husband, who only watches FOX. He is a former executive, who had worthwhile plans for his retirement and now sits and watches FOX all day and whines. His wife now thinks he is clinically depressed. The guy was conservative, but I think this channel has really brainwashed him.
What r14 said.
FOX NEWS is "News of the World," "Star Magazine", and "The National Enquirer" all rolled up into one eye-candylicious, bright shiny object.
Instead of it catching your eye while you stand in the supermarket check-out line, however, conveniently you can stay seated on your fat ass, riding the couch, as it beams right into your living room.
"Baby Born With Wooden Leg!"(my favorite News of the World" headline) on FOX NEWS is "Obama Born in Kenya!"
My mother told me that there is now a law where you can't be readmitted to a hospital within 30 days of being discharged from one. This, she snidely told me, was a result of Onamacare, "I saw a doctor say so on TV!"
I said, "Sure you did, you watch Fox News all day long and they consistently lie. It's another Fox lie."
I told her there was no law. It was a reimbursement issue. Some hospitals (particularly in poor urban and rural areas) had a very high rate of readmission of Medicare patients. It's because they do a shitty job of discharge planning for the patient. They don't set up at-home nursing and physical therapy care before discharge, they don't do proper patient teaching and the doctors often give Medicare patients short shrift and wait too long to see the patient in their office after discharge. (it really shouldn't take a month to get a follow up appointment in the doctor's office. Recently discharged patients should be a priority, unless they were hospitalized for something very minor.)
If a hospital has a high number of Medicare patients being readmitted to the hospital within 30 days of discharge, they will not get full reimbursement. It's a penalty system designed for hospitals to see if they can identify and resolve problems. When I worked in hospitals, we always had at least one surgeon whose patients were readmitted repeatedly for postop Infection. The hospitals did nothing about this. With the new ruling, hospitals can call Dr Typhoid Mary/Max in and say, "Dude, you are losing us money. We are going to investigate why so many of your patients are being readmitted because this is a problem which needs to be addressed."
That's what the new guideline is all about. It's not a LAW preventing doctors from readmitting sick patients. But Fox has the elderly believing Obama wants them to die at home without medical care.
R43 - yes, your explanation of the situation is accurate - the problem is, as I suspect you recognize, it takes more than 5 seconds to read it and it takes a bit of concentration to thoroughly grasp the meaning so, of course foxnews watchers will not only not understand it, they will NEVER be exposed to it. (I have some exposure to the medical industry - anything that goes wrong or is inconvenient or reduces bottomline is caused by "obamacare" - that is the standard response)
[quote]People I know and love only watch Fox and TRULY they are living on another planet.
THIS. Especially when their argument is that Fox has more viewers than other news channels, therefore it is correct.
BTW, in the early to mid 1980s, open heart surgery patients were being given blood transfusions willy nilly. Heart surgeons at my hospital would transfuse for a HCT below 33. This was before auto transfusions. Many patients went on to become HIV positive and died of AIDS contracted from blood transfusions. When the doctors were told that this was now a problem and data was going to be compiled about how many future patients went on to develop AIDS, guess what happened? All of a sudden, a patient needed a HCT below 30 to be transfused. Eventually, they brought it down to below HCT 23.
Surgeons had been rushing anesthesiologists along and not paying attention to them when the anesthesiologists told them the patient was getting very cold (having a low body core temperature). Low body temps were found to lead to more bleeding. The anesthesia department got the heart surgeons to agree to "sandwiched" hyperthermia blankets on patients and to use heated IV fluids. Bleeding was reduced. Doctors developed chest tubes through which the patients blood, which had drained out during surgery, could be transfused back into the patients. A particularly brutal surgeon whose technique always resulted in the patients bleeding like a stuck pig postoperatively was let go from the hospital. All the other surgeons tried to speed up their op times, spend less time on bypass (which led to bleeding) and eventually off-bypass surgery was developed.
All of these improvements were due to hospitals being told their AIDS morbidity and mortality rates from blood transfusions during and after heart surgery were going to be monitored, compiled and rated.
There is something to be said about putting in stricter guidelines, like the guideline about getting hospital readmittance numbers down.
My husband called the fuel oil company and asked if there was some way to bring down the cost of heating oil for us. Could they come and clean the furnace, make sure there are no gaps where cold air could come in the house, etc.
They cleaned the furnace and told him that the high cost if fuel was because of -- you guessed it -- Obama.
(like fuel oil prices would go down with a republican in office, lol)
Roger Ailes Signs Up For 4 More Years Running Fox News for $30 million a year.
I had to live with relatives for 6 months last year when I was out of work. They had Faux on 15 hours a day. At least 2 times a day I would hear a news anchor of theirs go on and on about how Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11.
Last week I was flicking through the channels on tv and when I got to faux, the very first thing I heard was that ridiculous blonde woman on the morning show talking about how Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11
Saddam Hussein had NOTHING WHAT SO EVER TO DO WITH 9/11. Nothing
i know r49. it's tragic what one television channel has been able to accomplish over the past 15 years.....
It's amazing how they lie with NO SHAME WHATSOEVER.
Really amazing human beings.
Gretchen is a rude fat cow
Roger Ailes is like a real-life Mr. Burns from the Simpsons.
I really hate how the media has become part of the political elite. It's not just Faux; at the Al Smith dinner last night, Katie Couric and Chris Matthews sat right behind Obama, child-rapist Dolan and Mittens. Roger Ailes was just a few feet behind Mittens and Queen Ann, to the other side. David Gregory is giving a keynote at some rightwing political group this month. And Brett Baer was all excited a while back, when he got to join the same country club in DC as Karl Rove. Nerd prom. I could go on and on... suffice it to say that there are few real journalists left.
And don't get me started on how there is a revolving door between losing political candidates/former administartion officials, and the three cable networks.
The best moment in recent Faux memory was when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Obamacare. They literally had to go to simulcast with FauxBusiness interviewing Rupert Murdoch while they scrambled to get their talking points. Rove looked like he was going to vomit. They so expected the entire act to be struck down, they didn't give even a moment's thought to what they would say if it was upheld.
Although, Shep Smith yelling "cut it! Cut it!" as the high speed chase they were covering live ended with the chasee's suicide, comes in a close second.
Faux Noise is a cancer upon the American body politic. It will consume it, eventually.
"O'Reilly was a two-bit hack at Channel 7 in Boston. He hosted a show called "Look" to dismal ratings."
IIRC, in the late 70s or early 80s, O'Liely was a 'reporter' for FOX's NYC affiliate Channel 5's original evening broadcast of "Inside Edition". This guy was basically a gossip reporter. If he wasn't on "Inside Edition" he was definitely on a gossip show in NYC.
FOX News' female blond airhead, who has been mentioned here, was also a gossip reporter.
The bottom line, none of Faux News on air staff could be considered real journalists.
I think it's hilarious. The best comedy on TV. Much better than most sitcoms.