I went to college in LA about 15 years ago. I always thought Silver Lake was kind of a bad neighborhood. Now I hear about so many people moving there. What is it like?
Artsy, multi-ethnic, rough around the edges, full of bears and hipsters and overprivileged suburban kids who've grown up, moved out, and think they're cutting edge.
Named America's hippest hipster neighborhood by Forbes magazine.
It became a gay stronghold in the mid-70s, but there were always gay people there.
Straights are kicking out the gays for years now. It's sad.
If Forbes is saying it's hip it's no longer hip, dear.
[quote]NOW you hear? It has been a long time!
my question was how long?
R5 nailed it.
Seth Meyers said that on SNL before r5 said it here.
Unfortunately, the Swish Alps ain't what they used to be.
In 16 years, I've seen the closing of many gay bars: Cuffs, the Other Side, the one where the 1400 Club is now (I can't even remember the name)...
El Gato Negro is closed for remodeling but we still have MJ's - which might as well be in West Hollywood - and the (Spread) Eagle.
Sunset Junction street fair has imploded but there are many other events throughout the year.
It used to be sooo gay. Cruising was like shooting fish in a barrel. Now between the changing demo and Internet hookups, the streets are like Dodge City at sundown.
Oh, well, I have a boyfriend and we rarely go out anyway.
In the 90s, many gays dumped Silverlake for West Hollywood. This was fine and good until ten years later when the straights (and the Russians) pushed them out of Gay USA.
There's something very (laughably) commercial and pretentious about it, even though it's supposed to be "high-brow counterculture" or something.
What the fuck are you talking about?
One thing we are NOT is commercial. No malls and no restaurant chains to speak of (okay, a McDonald's).
High-brow? We have a storefront music school.
A bunch of second-hand stores and a few eclectic gift shops and furniture stores.
You obviously know nothing about Silver Lake.
Uh, no. Commercial as in, through its general attitude, defeating its own purpose of non-commercialism. High-brow COUNTERCULTURE (high-brow meant as a euphemism for pretentious), not high-brow.
There are no malls or restaurant chains? Who can live in a city like that? Everything you need, you need to go out of the city for? How unconvenient.
Hipsters have KILLED SL.
Silverlake is filled with hipster parents.
If that is what we're missing, please leave or don't move in.
[quote]Silverlake is filled with hipster parents.
I thought that was South Pasadena.
(My vote would be Eagle Rock as Annoying Hipster Parents Central
There's still a few truly eccentric musicians, cartoonists and oddballs holding it (the counterculture?) down as super-styled young rich couples nest and breed.
Intelligentsia coffee is like a poisonous boil on the neighborhood. The patio is...painful. Painfully pretentious, even if the coffee is okay.
It really has nothing to do with the spirit of the neighborhood.
The farmer's market isn't half bad.
Overall, it could be worse, although I have seen swarms of tourists gawking their asses off as if the area were Hollywood Boulevard.
ive been going to the area since i was 15. i am now 33. I would never live there now. it used to be more fun. I remember going to several wild parties in the area. a few parties had sort of famous actors and musicians there and everyone was drunk and this one guy tried to make me put a huge dildo up my butt. i didnt.
we used to go to the Circus of Books to buy videos and there was all kinds of cruising at all times of the day.
The Pollo Loco a regional chicken chain has been there since i can remember. 2 of my friends still live in Silver Lake. One i met when i was 16 and he's lived there since the 1970's.
I prefer and like Los Feliz much better.
And WeHo is such a gay cliche its tired.
I stopped going to the Abbey in 2003 right before it became mega huge and a breeders magnet.
I think the Hollywood Hills and the Hills above Sunset not to far from the Beverly Hills hotel now those places are timeless and ive sure been to more than i care to admit parties where drugs, sex and booze were plentiful.
[quote]There are no malls or restaurant chains? Who can live in a city like that? Everything you need, you need to go out of the city for? How unconvenient.
Do you even know what this thread is about? Silver Lake isn't a city. It's a neighborhood in Los Angeles.
SIlver Lake is a lot of fun. It's the only multi-ethnic neighborhood in LA, which is a phenomenally segregated city. Los Feliz, nice as it is, is as white as Beverly Hills. I didn't have a single black or latino neighbor when I lived there. In Silver Lake, there's every color of skin imaginable. It's the most like NYC of anyplace in LA. I love it, frankly.
"Everything you need"? Malls and chain restaurants have NOTHING I need. It's been years since I've shopped or eaten at one. Life is too short.
1998. The correct answer is 1998.
And it became a cliche in 2006.
Now it's just comedy and marketing.
I lived there from the mid 70s to the early 80s. At that time, Weho was where single, young gays went to play. Silver Lake attracted more of an older crowd and gay, "settled" gay couples. It was also still affordable with great views from the hills.
I miss "Gloria's" restaurant at the corner of Maltman and Sunset. I think it's a video store now.
[quote] It's the only multi-ethnic neighborhood in LA,
That last name was supposed to be Mar Vista (for those on the westside).
I like Silver Lake.
I would like it but can't see a damn thing. You're talking about the one in the Dakotas, right?
R27, we were just talking about Gloria's this weekend. I miss their brunches.
Real artists like quiet neighborhoods where they can work in peace. It's the "aspiring" artists who require a "scene."
When the aspiring types succeed, they seek out quiet boring places that will allow them to work in peace. If they fail, they go to law school.
SL was a multi-ethnic neighborhood back in the 90's. It's all white now. Do some of you live in a bubble? Sheeesh!
SL gentrified because the better off hipsters still can't afford to live in nicer areas. Twenty years ago, they would have been running away instead of running towards the neighborhood (another reason it was popular with gays.)
[quote]SL gentrified because the better off hipsters still can't afford to live in nicer areas.
No doubt you're referring to the westside. All we see when we go there (the WS), is congestion and crowds.
Which more than a few think is responsible for the east side resurgence.
I'm not a fan of the WestSide.
God, I miss the 90s
The Westside is over. No young Angeleno under 30 thinks of the Westside as a place to go, unless you like traffic and chain stores/restaurants. But the beach is nice (and even then, Orange County has nicer beaches to visit).
Echo Park is the sketchier neighborhood. Silver Lake has always been a fairly nice place to live, unless your last name was LaBianca.
In the 1989, Silverlake: The View From Here, you can see how the neighborhood was, and how it attracted gay couples with its cheese shops and hilly vistas.
The hills are much nicer than the flats
Silverlake, Echo Park and Eagle Rock have been taken over by straight yuppie hipsters. All the charm of its seediness from the 70's and 80's, most of the gays bars - gone. I used to feel "home" here, now yuppie breeders have infiltrated their way in and taken over. What has happened to Venice and Santa Moinca is happening here. Fucking sickening.
What we need is another big quake to get people running from L.A.
So, what's the new Silver Lake? Or similar areas of other cities?
Stuck in Florida
Highland Park is supposedly the up and coming neighborhood now.
SL's days as hipster central are numbered thanks to outrageous real estate prices.
Silver Lake has rent control. I found a great place 16 years ago and pay practically what I did then.
If you can get over your bourgie notions of "home ownership," you can live quite comfortably there.
That's what they said about my mom, R42.
[quote] Los Feliz, nice as it is, is as white as Beverly Hills.
I'm guessing that you never made it too far south of Los Feliz Blvd, to around the Sikh Temple at Vermont & Findley....
Ivanhoe school district. The breeders love it. They can spend all their money on themselves rather than on private schools for their kids. Well at least until middle school.
Too bad because by then they are fucked because their kids have already made lasting friendships with all the future juvenile offenders.
[quote]Highland Park is supposedly the up and coming neighborhood now.
My aunt daily sets Hipster Traps, baited with hummus and freshly shucked corn or bottles of Eagle Rock microbrew, but they are so scared of the Mexicans, whenever they go on their "community-affirming" walks, they stay in the middle of the street and don't see them them.
Boyle Heights is going to be gentrified too one day as will all of East LA.
The Tom Of Finland Foundation is in Silver Lake.
So I guess it's the last redoubt.
Last time I was in Silverlake I saw soccer moms jogging with baby strollers around the reservoir. Made me sick to my stomach. Now they want to get a city ordinance to close the bars early because of all the "noise." These uptight bitches and their pussy-whipped yuppie husbands seriously need to go back to the Palasades.
Echo Park preserved itself by yanking hipsters into alleys and kicking the hell out of them. Perhaps Silver Lake should take note.
As soon as I get out of this awful place Iam going back to Silver Lake to start HS
R55 what are you talking about? Echo Park is full of pretentious hipsters.
some of you really get your panties in a knot over nothing. and love to sling hate around instead of enjoying yourselves.
The trick to enjoying living is Silver Lake in 2013 is to avoid Sunset totally on Saturdays and Sundays. The farmer's market and flea market on Saturday is good if you go early, very early. This neighborhood isn't meant for hordes. Now if we can do something about the now-adult Helicopter Children of The Damned walking down Sunset staring down at their phones like fools, walking into people, pets, poles...
Silverlake has been dead to me since they closed down Cuffs
I have lived in Los Feliz since MJ's was Woody's and Cuffs and the other leather bar on Sunset was open and in full effect. I hate how this area has changed. All the comfortable and funky places are now all clean metallic uncomfortable places. Who are these 20 somethings? Trust fund babies? Where did they come from? They seem nice enough (many have moved into my building) but they seem to be full of fluff. Or is that because they are a decade or so younger? I do have to say that the area has become more diverse. I still see mostly White people but now I even see some Black folks (as well as others) hanging out, shopping etc. And that never was the case when I first came out here.
[quote] Highland Park is supposedly the up and coming neighborhood now
Stop it. We know you really live in Shepherd's Bush.
"Full of fluff". Exactly, R61! Who's paying their bills?!
I had my first lesbian experience with Cousin Lena by the shores of Silver Lake. Ma says Lena's a bad influence, but she sure knows how to eat pussy.