That was pretty amazing, actually. SO good that I can't even come up with a good r1 cunty remark.
I was at the concert. Streisand was amazing - and I'm not a rabid Babs fan. This was the most comfortable and engaged I've ever seen her be with an audience. Her song choices were suitable for what she can do comfortably and well, and she didn't oversing or overact anything. Also the support acts - at least Chris Botti and Jason - were great. The three Italian tenor act was adequate.
I went to the concert expecting to have a moderately enjoyable evening and I came away very impressed
A much fresher set list than I was expecting. I've always wanted her to sing "What'll I Do?".
You'll Never Know (video introduction)
Funny Girl Overture
Being Good Isn't Good Enough
As If We Never Said Goodbye
Medley: Nice ‘n Easy / That Face
Smile (with Il Volo)
Il Volo segment
Un Amore Così Grande
O Sole Mio
The Way He Makes Me Feel
Ask Barbra: Enough is Enough
Marvin Hamlisch: The Way We Were / Through the Eyes of Love
Jule Styne: Rose's Turn/Some People/ Don't Rain On My Parade
I Remember Barbra film clip
You're The Top
What'll I Do? / My Funny Valentine (with Chris Botti)
Lost Inside of You (with Chris Botti)
Evergreen (with Chris Botti)
Chris Botti segment
When I Fall In Love
Jason Gould segment
Jason's video for Barbra's birthday (Nature Boy)
How Deep Is The Ocean (Barbra and Jason)
This Masquerade (Jason)
Here's To Life
Make Our Garden Grow (with Il Volo, Brooklyn Youth Choir, Chris Botti)
Some Other Time
Glad to hear this. Has she lost weight at all? At her last concert tour, she was looking slovenly and almost pregnant.
OMG, I love that! I think I'm going to cry.
Here's To Life is one of my all-time favorite songs. I have a version done by Shirley Horn which I play quite a bit.
I can definitely hear the age in her voice on that tape- many thanks for posting. Oh she's still a great singer, particularly on the quieter songs where she does not have to summon the power and interval swoops. But you can hear it even then- her voice is thicker, huskier. She is wonderful in person in my experience- she is (believe it or not) self effacing, funny, and sweet. She's very classy (despite yelling fuck you to a Repub in NYC in 2006!) which I was all in favor of.
I think she is doing this tour for the $$, not for herself but for her philanthropies. Yeah she will keep 10 or 20 million for herself, but the rest will go to her foundation and charities.
Great woman, model diva.
I wish she'd do more updated music instead of old standards. She should do a dance album.
Jason did a Leon Russell song? And she did Enough is Enough as a solo, not duet?
I'm seriously not trying to be cunty, but I thought it was terrible. Her aging voice just doesn't have power or strength behind it any longer - it sounded weak and raspy. If you'd never heard of Barbra Streisand before and you listened to this recording, would you really think it was good?
[quote]I wish she'd do more updated music instead of old standards. She should do a dance album
She did! Barbra recorded "Enough Is Enough" with Donna Summer and "The Main Event/Fight song.
The long version of "The Main Event" is very hard to find, because it was in the movie soundtrack.
I was shocked as well, r10. Then again, I haven't listened to anything recent from her in ages, so maybe this was a long time coming.
I think you still can hear what the voice was, even if, intially, she sounded really, really ragged.
R10, your overlooking the fact that this performer has a long history with her audience.
t7: Her voice is very leathery and husky...but like the mature Garland, it still delivers. She seems to have done some major training and excercise with her vocal cords - she sounds MUCH better than I ever thought she would, especially the GYPSY songs.
One of the reviewers said her warm rapport with her audiences is akin to Garland.
Does she have a cold?
Does this mean that Streisand is still doing the movie of Gypsy? Or trying to get it started again??? UGH.
She needs a lot of rest. If she sang through a show or rehearsal the day before - she will be raspy.
She is 70 freaking years old. Everyone's voice changes, your chords thicken, they vibrate more slowly, come together with less cohesion - and she is singing well - much longer than many other people. We are used to our divas dying young. There are very few singers of her magnitude that made it this long, so I guess you really don't know what to expect.
I saw a show of her music done last month by someone else younger and in better voice but I really did not give a damn about it - just pretty and hollow. Babs is a great communicator.
Yes, she has lost weight since the last tour. she looks like she's in excellent shape right now.
11 - I mean more like RECENT pop songs. Those songs she did with Donna Summer were forever ago. Even when Dusty was older, she kept current with dance music. See link...the song is still pretty timeless (probably because it was copied by 'you know who')
I like Babs, but I was going to say that the one who amazes me is Barbara Cook. She's even older than Babs and can still belt them out like nobody's business.
She does need to modernize. I think she should cover "Every Granny In The World" by Rihanna...oh, wait, she has no grandchildren.
Singing doesn't require that much energy, if you keep yourself in shape, don't smoke too much and don't do a lot of drugs, one can keep singing forever, maybe not hold the notes as long or as strong, 'though.
How did Jason look and sound. That's a tired, overdone song he covered by Leon.
Well, R21, I'm far from being an old geezer (I'm 31), but having been into music all my life, it's my opinion that for the most part, there have been very few truly decent songs written in the past three or four decades. Somehow the concept of actual melody seems to have gone the way of the dodo bird. Not to mention the fact that few, if any, singers today can even begin to hold a torch to people like Sinatra, Mel Torme, Sarah Vaughan, Ella Fitzgerald or...Barbra Streisand. If someone were to ask most of the singers today to sing some of the standards of the 30's or 40's, they would be incapable of doing it.
So...why should she "modernize"??
I love Babs fans. You are all are so much more amusing than any Babs concert could ever be. I will be using "interval swoops" in my everyday speech from now on.
I wish she'd do Sunset Blvd, The musical. Much better role for her than Mama Rose. More close to the real STAR!
"belt them out" doesn't really apply to Barbara Cook.
How does Il Volo differ from Il Divo . . . besides two letters?
She has recorded What'll I Do. On her The Way We Were album.
r 22 - singing , particularly on the scale Babs does it, requires TREMENDOUS energy. Singing for an hour with an orchestra is like a steeplechase event. Sitting around the house singing to yourself - sure - doesn't require all that much.
Concertizing - is extremely draining.
[quote]I'm seriously not trying to be cunty, but I thought it was terrible.
Yeah, because a real judge of how great she sounds should always be a YouTube video recorded on a cell phone. Dickhead.
r30: No, you are thinking of "My Buddy/How About Me".
My single favorite recording of hers. Flawless in every respect.
Peter Matz arranged it - OF COURSE.
"Concertizing is extremely draining"!!!!
I LOVE you guys! Please post more. Please.
I'm not even disagreeing with you or being cunty. I love it when you queens break down Babs talent/singing/whatever. It's awe inspiring.
New album out today "Release Me" at Amazon for $5.00 download. Don't know how long but Amazon is way better than iTunes because they have first day sales.
I didn't die young, you heaping pile of horseshit, r17!
I'm a Barbra fan, but she does sound raspy.
It's a pity to hear her lose that great voice of hers, but I wouldn't enjoy a couple of hours of that.
And I know I am in the minority, but I think "Don't Rain on My Parade" is a very annoying song.
[quote]Singing doesn't require that much energy
Spoken like a true Beyonce fan.
Streisand is a true talent who has taken care of her voice and knows how to sing properly. It shows. Compared to those screechers on American Idol, it is a treat to hear someone who is still truly amazing.
Really, she sounds TERRIBLE on the Gypsy songs. Yeah, yeah, she's 70, her cords have thickened - whatever. Not only is she too old, but she cannot sing the role anymore.
[quote] Yeah, because a real judge of how great she sounds should always be a YouTube video recorded on a cell phone. Dickhead.
LOL. Oh you Eldergay Streisand fangurls are so sensitive.
Well someone tell me when is my turn
When is it...er, ah...dream for myself
What is weird to me is that I was a big fan and now I find that I am not.
And it has nothing to do with her losing her voice because I have avoided all her most recent releases.
I downloaded her new CD of songs recorded decades ago last night and was looking forward to listening to it, but only listened to a few songs.
I find that I still think she had a beautiful voice, but I don't like the way she sings most songs -- or the songs -- anymore.
What was the stage for the show like? I was so put off by the ridiculous all-beige, fussily decorated set from her concert tour a few years ago.
Oh shit, R444. You better buy some body armor. Them queens be coming after yo' ass.
R48, is this thread really going to have 444 posts? Wow! I wonder that person will say to make you post this in advance!
I'm with r10. I'm a fan of hers (I'll watch "The Way We Were" or "Funny Girl" at the drop of a hat) but I was shocked at how bad she sounds.
I really hate to say it but she needs to retire. She's turning into Sinatra in his last years.
Why doesn't she just die already.
All Datalounge members who listened to this recording owe royalties to Ms. Streisand for this illegal recording.
When Marty dies, who will become Barbra's manager?
Did she sing her portion of the We Are the World remake? That would give me chills.
I agree with you R50. I could not stand Sinatra- I love Streisand, she is doing so much good for the world in her philanthropic activities- she can make films, direct, do charater roles etc. But it is hard to hear that great voice decline.
My guess is that she tours because she can make so much money doing so. The reviews from Philly were pretty good despite the decline in voice. She does it less for her own wealth (which is plenty) than to fund charties- her womens heart center in LA, her Foundation, etc.
It's really sad. Like her peer Aretha Franklin, she simply doesn't sound the same anymore. But at least we have the old videos and albums from their prime that reminds us of what they could do.
That's why Linda retired, she claims her voice isn't as strong as before.
I can't imagine anyone enjoying this at all except for absolute diehard fans wanting to see her live.
I don;t dismiss that, because though I am not a Streisand fan, I can imagine going to see Julie Andrews croak through songs in a concert today just so I could have the thrill of seeing her. But even so, Streisand is just not able to sing well anymore.
Just listened to the clip on the Jason thread. She sounded pretty good- very sweet clip. But still, even 10 years ago she was much better. Her 2000 tour and the DVD from it are pretty much that last of Barbra still at her best- by the 2006 tour the decline is noticable.
Great Performances - "Back to Broadway" on tonight.
Eder? McCartney? Thompson?
Watching it now on PBS. Sings okay. Kind of fat.
Oops...Back To Brooklyn
It's on some PBS stations again right now.
Question: Why do so many older gays worship her? Has she even acknowledged her gay fans? I know she has a gay son, but still, I never hear her talk about her gay fans like Cher does.
This tour was the first I saw her and to my surprise it was fabulous and in the arena she sounded strong and sang all her biggest hits. She was relaxed, funny, interacted with the audience. One of the best concerts I've been.
Streisand has always been a "me, me, me" performer. So was Lucy and so is Meryl ( that's how women last in the entertainment business ). That was one talent Garland lacked.
That being said she is not the singer for those songs. Even in her prime she didn't have the balls to be as evil, abusive and mean the way Mama Rose has to be played. By the way that is also why B.Peters was a bad Mama Rose. Streisand can be controlling, and lacking in constant self-awareness, but she is not an actor who can play that confused, abandoned child in an affective manner.
So those songs are done in vain. Which makes the recordings far more special, but the quality really lacking. Sad. She could find a better way to express her art if she sang for her seventies' voice. And please don't get me started on "The Guilt Trip".
Stuck permanently on stupid. Another Hollywood lefty zillionaire willing to whore herself out to Wall Street moguls for a song, and then smooths over the tragic irony by posting insane leftist screeds--with equally tragic spelling and grammar--to curry favor/absolution from her gays. Pathetic.
Streisand's voice is like margarine. Talk amongst yourselves.
She gave a valid interpretation of the songs. I'd have to see it in context to know if it'd really work. I don't think Babs has the balls to play someone so unlikeable either - or at least play it well.
I'd actually really like a new version of Gypsy, given that the first two versions are rather awful. Note to filmmakers: if you miscast Rose, it's not gonna work. Period.
Whoever plays this part, can't be self conscious. Rose is a mean, evil, selfish woman with literally no redeemable qualities. Sure, I think, somewhere, she does love her kids, but she also resents them for not allowing her to be the star she felt she deserved to be.
She's incredibly charming and sexy when she needs to be. She also needs to be funny for the first act. That's what keeps you watching her. She's kinda hilarious in her complete disregard of other people and their feelings. The thing is: she can't know that she's funny. She's not a wacky, madcap Auntie Mame character. She's not eccentric. She's really provincial and kinda stupid. That's why she's so funny. She actually thinks the kid's act is good for God's sake.
When Betty Buckley played the role, she sang it better than anyone I've ever heard - yes, even Merman - but she was so cold and unfunny that the entire show felt awkward and much creepier than it needs to be, especially during the first act.
No one can deny Barbra Streisand's astounding vocal range but her "singing" has never appealed to me personally. I've tried desperately over the years to fall in line & force myself to like her warbling but something just doesn't connect. My guess is that it's a combination of her shrill unpleasant tone & schmaltzy material that always leaves me cold. Even when she sings material I like (usually pre-1960 standards) there are ALWAYS far superior versions available elsewhere by underrated & more gifted vocalists.
No comment on the borderline unprofessional clip featured in this thread. *cough* Was it talent, powerful connections or simply good management that made Miss Streisand a star? Talk amongst yourselves...........
Interesting remarks, R70. Apparently Arthur Laurents told Barbra she wasn't right, she plays for sympathy. Then Barbra discussed her mother Diana, who Arthur says sounded worse than Rose.
He apparently told her that if you could deal with that, then yes, you can handle the part. It seems like it would be the final arc of Streisand's career, from "Funny Girl" to now. So who knows if all pieces will fall into place.
Lol R71 is an idiot.
She used the same stage and entrance as she did on her previous tour. Same Funny Girl overture. The PBS presentation really butchered this up. They maybe showed 10 seconds of the "You'll Never Know" opener, and missed all the photos of her with Mike Wallace, Jack Parr, Phyllis Diller (she was the opening act for Phyllis at the Bon Soir)and Judy Garland. This show was intended for Brooklyn. After Barclays, she opened the show with "On A Clear Day", and the second half of the show with "My Man". The PBS show also didn't show the solo numbers of Il Vilo, Cris Botti, or Jason Gould. I think her shows were much better after Brooklyn. Especially the Amsterdam and Tel Aviv shows on youtube. I had great seats for the show in Las Vegas. I figured as she neared 70 and I neared 60, I should finally fork over the bucks to see her. I'm glad I did, too.
At this point I only want to hear Streisand perform material she has never sung before. Another "People", "Evergreen" or "Don't Rain On My Parade" will put me to sleep.
She sounds awful. Thank God this has zero chance of actually being made.
Thank you R73 for bringing some "intelligence" to this thread. Stupid Bitch.
"The first two version were rather awful."
You mean Russell and Midler, not Merman and Lansbury. Right?
Yes, the Russell and Midler film versions were terrible. Just awful. Fro the footage and audio I've seen/heard from Lansbury, she might have been the definitive Rose. Her "Rose's Turn" is especially chilling.