Michael Pitt and JGL

Huh? When? Could you be any more vague?

R1 It is pretty vague since there isn't much to draw from. Allegedly these two had a torrid affair which was brief since Michael Pitt was, Michael Pitt throughout the whole thing. BTW this may or may not be true since it was merely a suggestion on one of Lainey's BIs.

This Michael Pitt. He looks like a fucking duech. I won't be surprised if this is true.

What? I have no idea what you are talking about, op.

JG-L and Michael Pitt was real.

So when did this relationship take place?

I'd like to go all asshole on his ass. Leave him sore for a while . Pitt is a lucky bastard for having a go at him. I'd like to be in his place.

Someone in the TDKR thread requested a new subject for this. Don't know anything more, just trying to help.

...Well he fucked him without lube, just a little spit, so yes he was mean to him.

Michael became an asshole/psycho only AFTER the breakup. Honestly, if someone broke up with me suddenly, I'd be angry too. Joseph seems like some slut who jumps around anyway.

The OP is just hating against Michael Pitt - who has a very solid career.

JGL is Joseph Gordon-Levitt and he is Jewish. Just think of all the nagging poor Michael had to endure. I would have slapped him around if I was Mr.Pitt.

Anyone here had Michael Pitt? I sense he would be a brutal fuck.

Their affair started early 2011 but became sexual in mid 2011. Things were cool but Michael started having issues in his boardwalk shit. Michael was already hard to work with but when his character was scripted to be killed, he went haywire. He got loud and objective and had a breakdown. This dick had their 'sudden' breakup coming to him. For him to be so angry and psychotic over Joe proves that he is nothing but an asshole. Having gone as far as gripping someones shoulder is a red flag in a relationship. Their relationship ended early 2012. They actually met each other after a few months after the break up and had a few heat arguments.

Fuck him and his fans.

btw, I know this for a fact.

[R12] , I thought the killing of Pitt on Boardwalk was punishment for his asshole and druggy behavior..How and why in the world did JGL get involved w/Pitt?

Yeah, I'm with R14. When and where did they meet? I'm pretty sure they've never worked together and hasn't JGL been with the same girlfriend for a several years? I'd like to hear more details on this.

It's kind of sad to hear that Pitt is such a massive jerk. I've always liked his work, ever since seeing him and Ryan Gosling in 'Murder By Numbers'. The truth is, though, that I don't think Boardwalk will recover from Pitt's absence. The first three episodes this season have all been dull as dishwater.

So maybe I am naive, but what about Jaime Bochert? Is she just a beard and the relationship a fake or does Michael Pitt just dabble on the side with the boys? I just don't know...

R13 is psychotic. The two have never even *met*, and Pitt was fired from "Boardwalk Empire" because he was a diva with a drug problem (mainly long nights out doing mounds of coke) who caused endless shit on set for arriving hours late, not knowing his lines, having to have makeup cover up all his visible signs of partying the night before, getting along poorly with both cast and crew (and producers), and generally having an air of being "too good" for the endeavor -- never mind that it's a Marty Scorsese-produced show on the premier cable network. This I DO know for a fact.

From what I understand Pitt will suck or fuck just about anyone.

Hmm, 17. They met through mutual friends. And dear 14 is holding back on JGL dirt. At least we know who's side he is on.

r17, FUCK YOU, they shared a house on Wonderview Drive above Lake Hollywood.

Jaime Bochert? What's up with that?

@ r17, r14 already told us he had problemw and became more so of an ass when his character got killed. I've never actually known him. But not hearing nice things about him though. He is good looking, he has that bad ass look about him.

I mean r13 already told us.

Calling him an asshole is nothing compared to how he really Is/Was!!!

And JGL isn't that innocent either. he is kind of a jerk and MP being more mean then usual towards JGL is perfectly fine. Bitches like Joseph should be put in their places once in a while and Pitt did that. Scared that piece of shit back into womens vaginas.

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Who is "Holly Fuck"? And why should she turn on CNN?

r13 what do you mean hard to work with?

[quote]He looks like a fucking duech.

Oh, [italic]dear.[/italic]

R17, what you wrote in no way disputes what R13 wrote, except for you claiming that the two never met. Now, we understand that you are very important on that particular set (after all, someone has to move cables in between camera set-ups), but that makes you no expert on actors' private lives.

Hey, R28, try saying it with a Swedish accent and it works!

r27 , what do you think what r13 means by 'hard to work with'?

sheesh~~~~~~~~~

LOL "never met". Really such a mystery how two Hollywood hipsters who are the same age might end up in a room together.

How was he an asshole to JGL? Lainy just said he whined and threatened to expose them - although J didn't believe that anyway - from what I remember. What do you mean he put him in his place?

And whoever asked: He had the same girlfriend for a while, but that is long over. Apparently he wasn't the best bf to her, rather hot and cold.

Sigh.

All I did was have rough sex with him the night I found out my character was going to be killed. I'm sure you guys have taken your anger out on a sweet ass too. I thought I was fucking one of the directors and not my sweet adorable Joseph.

Give me a fucking break. How was I supposed to know he was telling me to stop for real?

With the recent pictures of Joseph surfacing, He doesn't have to worry about me bothering him again. He looks fugly. Women can have him. I heard he is securing his place in some woman's vagina. Fuck You Jay.

And If I ever see him again, I'll do more then just grip his shoulder...

Wow a genuine gossip thread on DL?! Great.

What's with the shoulder gripping thing?

lol at Michael fuking Pitt.

I would take a punishment fuck from Michael Pitt any day!

Ask Gus if Michael just dabbles on the side...with homosexuality.

Michael gripped baby J's shoulder and pinned him down to the bed and fucked him raw. Nothing wrong with that....I would have taken it gladly...

Michael > JGL

In mid 2011 JGL was shooting TDKR all over the world and wouldn't have had time for anything or anybody else.

This story is utter bullshit.

Ooh, a defensive fangirl.

r41 , your comment is shit. and it's even shittier for you to think think that the movie was filmed all over the world. TDKR was filmed in UK and USA and some exterior scenes were filmed from India (Which the actors didn't bother going for).

And to think someone making a movie doesn't have time for sex is even more bs...

[bold]JGL was shooting TDKR all over the world[/bold]

Can you name the parts of the world the movie was shot in? USA is one of them, can you name 10 more?

I don't even know what that fucking film is and how do we know Pitt wasn't in the same country? Oh, is that Leo film? Can't say I was interested in that. Did Leo hit on JGL?

According to Lainey the two were spotted at Soho House last month having a quick chat but JGL apparently seemed distracted and left in a hurry.

From Crushable.com

Our little Joseph Gordon-Levitt‘s growing up! One day he’s the shaggy-haired, awkward teenager on 3rd Rock from the Sun, then suddenly he’s wearing impeccable suits, playing a young Bruce Willis, and is the subject of torrid blind items claiming he had a gay affair somewhere in-between.

That’s right, Lainey Gossip has been dropping some anvil-sized hints that two up-and-coming members of young Hollywood used to hook up, but were “scared straight” by their management and had to break up.

What’s weird is, she published this particular blind only about six months ago:

Both are acclaimed actors. One’s an actor you find super cute. He’s popular and adorable, like dimples and old fashioned dresses. The other’s an actor I find super gross. And dramatic. And full of his own sh-t. He fronts like he’s dark. He’s difficult. The work is often beneath him. The work is often taken away from him because the attitude that it is beneath him is so often intolerable The two had a torrid affair. Which is nothing unusual, of course not. Except that dimples broke up with drama and drama practically had a psychotic break. There was a month-long spiral. A couple of times he came close to really hurting himself. He also threatened to expose them both, though no one is taking that seriously. As a result, his heartbreaker is trying, ignorantly, to go back to the other side of his bisexuality.

Oh No They Didn’t compiled evidence from Lainey’s recent posts to make the connection that Dimples is allegedly JGL, and Drama is supposedly Michael Pitt. Last week, Toronto Life reported on Lainey’s annual “Smut Soiree,” where she dropped heavy hints about JGL being the subject of this blind. Add that to her snarky commentary from TIFF a few weeks back where she claimed to observe Michael and Joe talking and Joe trying to get out of the conversation, and you have enough innuendo to support her story.

Of course, I find it highly suspect that Lainey posted and revealed this blind in a six-month span, and that it coincides with JGL’s well-received sci-fi thriller Looper. It just seems like she’s taking advantage of the timing. (Although it should be noted that right after Lainey published the blind in March, Dlisted cast Jake Gyllenhaal as Dimples and James Franco as Drama.) I can’t find any evidence of JGL and Michael spending any time together, though I did come across another gay rumor about Joe from late 2011. According to Jezebel, people thought that Joe was using Scarlett Johansson as his beard, but that rumor never went anywhere.

My point being, let’s just leave JGL alone and let him continue to make beautiful .gifs by dancing on SNL. But if he wanted to check off items on his fame list, he’s certainly moving on up.

I remember when Michael Pitt was cast on Dawson's Creek, as Michelle Williams improbable love interest.

I remember thinking, "Who is femmy, mush-mouthed queen?"

He was much better on Boardwalk Empire.

I do give him credit for allowing a close up of his dick in a film.

Speaking of that, R48, I wonder how Michael Pitt and Louis Garrel got on?

They both spent a lot of time with their cocks out in "The Dreamers".

Where is Soho house?

At least JGL doesn't pretend to have girlfriends for PR purposes.

I thought he did, R51. Or did/does have a real girlfriend

How do you know that, R20? If this is even true, which I doubt, they weren't together long enough to shack up.

Who is this Lainey person?

Unlike Pitt, I believe that guy Garrel is gay in real life, R49, so probably didn't get along at all. Pitt doesn't like gay people.

Yes I am sure Pitt, the guy who was happy to star in Hedwig and the Angry Inch, hates gay people.

Dude is bisexual himself, try harder R55.

He may not hate gay people, BUT I know for a fact he is straight, R56. He slept with my cousin's best friend, and he told her even though there are a lot of gay and bisexual actors in HW, that he't not gay or bisexual. He said he's never even thought about sleeping with a dude. She asked because she was afraid of HIV.

And guys NEVER lie to get girls into bed, r57. Tell your "cousin's best friend" to get tested, not just for HIV but all STDs.

R55/R57 = Full of horseshit. First you say he hates gay people, then in your next post you say he may not hate gay people. Make up your damn mind!

Isn't it always amazing how the internet seems to draw just the right people to post on a thread to tell us that celebrity X slept with her "cousin's best friend" who not only supposedly gives us verification that he fucks women, but that he actually answered the gay question.

Stupid fangirls are so pathetic.

I'm talking to you R57.

He never said he hated gay people, R59. I just assumed he did because of his answer, but maybe he doesn't.

I always thought Michael Pitt was as hot as hell, something about those luscious lips.

Who is Gus, R39?

Who is JGL's new girlfriend. Didn't he dump one a while ago?

Well, apparently, he dumped Michael Pitt a while ago. Maybe, you're confusing him with a girl.

No, he had some dancer girlfriend he was with for a while, creating videos and "happenings" together and whatnot.

I have worked with Pitt and know JGL socially. He is at least bi, but Michael Pitt is straight. Very very straight. He hasn't fucked any men (and believe me, Stephen Trask tried). He also has a serious, serious drug addiction....I'm shocked that he made it past 30.

[quote]I have worked with Pitt and know JGL socially. He is at least bi, but Michael Pitt is straight.

Tell us more about JGL. What kind of guys does he like?

JGL is Jo-Go

I love how people KNOW someone is very very straight just by working with them. And KNOW they never slept with any men especially when said person is a serious serious drug addict.

How do you know Pitt wasn't compromised in a drug-induced haze? How do you know that he just wasn't interested in Stephen Trask? Whoever he is.

If Gus Van Sant can't get a guy started on H, nobody can.

Soho House is in West Hollywood.

When Pitt stared in Last Days, he was working with a shitload of gay guys, so it's kind of hard to believe that he hates gay men.

Frankly, I don't believe Bertolucci would have cast Pitt in the French film, without sleeping with him first.

Pitt went to high school with my best friend's daughter. He was the biggest druggie in the school, and that was saying something. Family was trashy. Friend's daughter said he slept with any girl who would have him. No mention of boys, but he was quite young then.

I could give two shits about this Pitt guy. JGL as bi/gay is fucking news to me, dish people!!!

Was JGL the bottom? Michael seems like a mean top...

[quote]JGL as bi/gay is fucking news to me, dish people!!!

That's what I want to know.

Yes, I'm pretty sure Pitt was a trashy boy and sold himself in New York before he slept with the right person in Hollywood...who was that right person?

David Geffen.

I was thinking Kevin Williamson but maybe you are right?

I thought it was common knowledge that Michael was a rent boy in New York. There's no way those lips have never touched cock.

Okay, I guess Pitt is heterosexual. It sounds like he's really in love

[quote]“Oh, that’s for Jamie,” he said. The lids of his puffy eyes seemed to widen with excitement. “That’s my love.” Suddenly, his speech was as light as a dandelion bumping along on a summer breeze. They met at a bar in the East Village five years ago; he was drinking, she was pouring; her first day on the job. They were both just coming out of relationships. They tried to go slow at first, he said, but it was hopeless. They’ve been living together in Bushwick for four years. She cooks. Under the name Frances Wolf, she’s recording an album; she and Mr. Pitt have jammed with Patti Smith, to whom Ms. Bochert bears a certain resemblance.

[quote]“She’s my fiancée; we’ve been engaged for a long time now,” Mr. Pitt said. “She’s planning the wedding. We’re fighting over the wedding, basically. She wants something really big, I want something really small.

[quote]“She’s my other half,” he continued. “She’s a musician, right? Wonderful musician. And she pays her bills doing print work, as a model, and, you know, she’s lucky to be able to do that—even though she fuckin’ hates the business, we both hate it. It makes the music industry and the film industry and every industry look like a walk in the park. And when it comes down to it, she’s able to make money and not work in a bar and put it into her music and sustain.”

R74, Pitt went to three different high schools and dropped out at 16 if what he says is true. So I doubt your friend's daughter got to know him all that well. She probably says that now because he's famous and found out he was in the same high school for a month.

Sorry but it sounds exactly like a piece of fiction that he was making up as he went along.

Who is Gus and why should we ask him?

OMG gays, Gus is Gus Van Sant, sheesh.

I dealt with JGL during press for the first GI Joe film, and I found myself at an invite-only club in NYC. There was JGL about to get his dick sucked by some Latino trade, and I had to grab the little bitch to drag him out as people were pulling out their phones to take pix.

I tossed his ass in a taxi, got him back to his hotel, and I quit that bitch first thing in the morning. I was paid for the entire gig. Either come out or keep it in your pants.

Interesting R87.

How would Gus know about dabbling, R39? Because they dabbled together?

OMG! I can't believe there is a thread on this topic.

A friend of mine told me that he's pretty sure they did have a fling because he lives near JGL and about a year ago, he saw Michael Pitt leaving his house.

So, just because he left his house, they're having an affair? okkkaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy

R87 is lying.

how do you know, r92?

Michael Pitt kind of strikes me as bisexual. He definitely seems he is into girls because of the ones he has been linked with. I wonder how he has kept the relationship going with the current girlfriend so long if the is involved with guys on the side.

Michael Pitt does kind of strike me as bisexual.I would say he is definitely into chicks because of the girls he has been linked with. I wonder how he has maintained the relationship with his long time girlfriend if he is seeing dudes on the side

Michael PItt & Louis Garrel were hot naked together in "The Dreamers", but neither one of them is gay.

R17 Slightly off-topic, how many people on DL actually work in Hollywood? What kind of jobs do they have? Are many of them still here?

More about JGL, please.

JGL moans like a little bitch!

R95 I've been wondering about that too. I suspect he and Jaime Bochert are just good friends who share a house tbh.

I wouldn't mind hearing Michael's side of things, since I get the impression JGL is a shitty boyfriend given all the cheating he does.

Well Michael Pitt at leas likes girls if you look at the the few ones he had been with in the past.

Does JGL douche his hole well?

R101 I don't really follow your logic here. He's dated 4 women from what I understand, a hell of a lot less than JGL. I'm not disagreeing he's bi though.

R102 He doesn't do anal apparently.

On youtube there are clips from that movie Rhinocerous Eyes. The one where people think that he slept with the costar Gayle Harold. Well there is actually behind the scenes of the making of it and in one of them everyone is getting their hair styled and Michael and Gayle stare at each other for a few seconds then Michael gets a twitchy leg and the camera catches it. Not saying that HAS to mean something but I kind of believe maybe something happened there. Btw off topic but Michael Pitt is excellent as Mason Verger in the show Hannibal. I love that show and cannot wait to see Mason's messed up face in season 3.

R104 Interesting. Someone on Tumblr dug up screencaps of an old audition of his where he's kissing a guy, and he seemed pretty into it. Not that that necessarily means anything either, buuuut...

As much as I personally despise Lainey, I never saw any reason for her or her sources to make this one up. It's not like there's a ton of fangirls out there who wanted these two to be together. It wasn't even public knowledge that they were friendly.

Where does this no-anal info come from?

On the DVD commentary track of 'The Dreamers', Bernardo Bertolucci says Michael Pitt & Louis Garrel wanted to downplay the gay subplot.

There was supposed to be a gay sex scene between Michael Pitt & Louis Garrel in 'The Dreamers', but the actors told Bertolucci they'd rather stay away from that angle.

There was a little bit of contact between them though in this scene where Louis Garrel restrains a naked Michael Pitt so that Eva Green can get his pants off:

Another Michael Pitt-Louis Garrel screencap:

I can see how doing a gay sex scene would have felt controversial especially if it was vivid. Especially when thus was made(wasn't it 1999). Whether Pitt was straight or bi this would be a hard thing to do in a movie because of how society would react.

It was Bertolucci who cut the sex scene(s) between their characters, not the actors.

R106 Apparently JGL did a radio interview where the subject of anal (with a woman) came up and he said he thought it was gross and he didn't see the big deal. His fangirls like to trot that one out as proof he's not bi. *rolls eyes*

[quote]It was Bertolucci who cut the sex scene(s) between their characters, not the actors.

On the DVD commentary, Bertolucci and the author Gilbert Adair say that the actors weren't interested in doing the gay storyline that was in Adair's novel, 'The Holy Innocents' (on which 'The Dreamers' was based).

If you mean that Bertolucci himself agreed that his movies sometimes have too many subplots and that he himself realized there might not be room for the relationship between Michael Pitt & Louis Garrel, that is true, but it's also the case that he says the actors weren't interested in exploring the gay angle, either.

I wonder which one of the actors was more against it.

The movie suffered so much from the lack of sexual relationship between the guys. Bertolucci must be an idiot. You noticed it was supposed to be about 3 people who were into each other, but it never really realised itself. What a failure.

Bertolucci says on the DVD Commentary that he's been criticized in the past for putting too many sub-plots into his films and so he decided not to focus on the relationship between the two guys, even though they have a sex scene in Adair's novel.

Pitt's fiancé looks like a man so maybe he is bisexual.

She looks like a heroin addict.

She could play a young Patti Smith in a biopic.

@reply 116. She does not look like a man to me. I know she is very skinny but maybe she is one of those few people who cannot gain weight.

Michael Pitt is very hot....

Michael Pitt goes practically naked in 'Bully'. Lots of Nick Stahl and Brad Renfro on display in that movie, as well.

R119 She has said she tries to gain weight and can't and she's looked like this forever.

His quote about having a crush on David Bowie is making the Twitter rounds. Hadn't heard that one before.

And is somebody threatening to out the little hypocrite JGL or is he trying to be extra-straight because he wants an Oscar? He's usually very low key with his girlfriends, but not with the current one. Even took her to US Open which he admitted isn't something he's into, and it seemed pretty odd considering he was all about ~protecting her from public scrutiny a year ago.

I didn't even know that JGL was Joseph Gordon Levitt.

Valid point, R123.

For those unfamiliar with the acronym used for an actor, the OP should specify that at the beginning of the thread.

Wait who made the crush comment about David Bowie? Joseph Gordon Levitt or Michael Pitt?

Pitt is so hot and dirty. I can barely stand it.

So I answered my own question by looking at twitter. I wonder what the context of that was. Was he joking or just meaning to say that he was really thought Bowie was cool or did he mean he had an actual crush.

Very kind of JGL to provide a platform for his ex-boyfriends to come forward anonymously on HIS OWN WEBSITE.

J.T. Leroy used to call Michael Pitt, Pillow Lips.

Here's the other thread.

Pitt's girlfriend looks like Lucas Haas in a wig, so maybe he really is bi

Slightly OT but: did we ever discuss the rumor about JGL and Ryan Ross from Panic! At the Disco? Supposedly they hooked up around 2007-08.

R132 I never heard that one.

That sounds hot as hell, r132, but also very much like a fangirl fantasy. (Have these 2 even met?)

R134 I linked the source at the bottom (it's ONTD, thought I would warn you). I have to say, as with Michael, it seems a really odd thing for anyone to make up. But at the link, ppeak - a poster who has had some great info on actors before, esp James Franco - said he hadn't heard anything about it, so take it as you will.

One thing I do know about JGL for a fact is that he is very, very controlling of his image and what does and doesn't get out about him. I think the type of men he goes for run very contrary to his image (both Michael and Ryan Ross have documented issues with drugs, for instance), so I imagine he makes sure they are people in the industry who won't talk and that he is never linked to them. I imagine he was very angry about the Lainey blind. She certainly seems to like him a hell of a lot less these days, possibly because his people had words with her.

LOL good luck to JGL's wife, I guess. She's gonna need it.

Oh, and Joseph? The internet never forgets.

For anyone to understand this entire story about Michael Pitt, or Mike as he was always known before he became Michael, you have to first know his history. I grew up in his New Jersey neighborhood, and when me and my friends were playing baseball at age 11, he would sit in the bleachers and cheer on (sort of) his sister who played on the boys team. He was a miserable kid who was quiet unless he knew you, and if you did know him, growing up in the 80's and early 90's, you would most likely label him as "weird." I recall one summer, my friends and I were playing in a park inbetween his house and mine, and he came by and would just stare and when we asked him if he wanted to hang out, he would smile and be interested for about 5 minutes, then start arguing with one of the smaller, nerdier, less athletic kids, trying to put him down. For this reason, we all pretty much thought he was an asshole and rightfully so. He would continue through the 90's becoming stranger, hanging out with some of the wilder kids who were easily 5-7 years older than him. Kids who at the large age gap of 14-20 would drink, smoke, and get involved with pot and pills. Mike took to pills at a very young age and I openly admit to us planning to fight him and a few of his dirtbag tag alongs because he tried getting my young, female cousin, Denise (and was successful in his efforts) to smoke weed and take XTC with him and his friends. Despite all this, when he was about 16-17 he sorta just vanished. The rumors of his exit from our town ranged from: he moved to NY to try to be an actor/model/or musician, to he is a male underage prostitute in Cali, to he joined a cult in Waco, TX. Obviously, if you have followed his story, you know he moved to NY and the rest his history. However, small town rumors and the testimonies of his family and friends left behind, stated that he was HEAVILY involved with drugs (Vicodin, oxy, coke, heroin, and Xanex) and mixed in with a really strange crowd in NY that pretty much exploited him for sexual favors and acting dollars, in exchange for him getting more work and popularity in the circles he was involved with in NY. The stories of him being involved with men at least 10 years older than him started around when he was 18. Fast forwarding to the new rumors of his agency dropping him, Boardwalk Empire writing him out, and the never ending Internet posts of him being difficult to work with at the cost of him getting mildly black listed, I would say the least surprising thing here is him dating a well known Hollywood actor. To this day, I have never heard any rumors in West Orange, NJ stating he is dating or has dated JGL, but I have heard enough awful gossip that it is urban legend enough. The unfortunate thing is all the stories have really hurt his family, and his mother was always a nice lady. But yea, in the case of Mike--excuse the hell out of me--MICHAEL Pitt, it's ok to believe what you read, because even if it isn't 100% factual, there is probably another untold story similar to what you are reading. Oh and for those Internet people that are going to say I'm writing this because I'm angry about the personal situation he had with a family member of mine, yea, a little, but it doesn't make a word of what I'm saying untrue. If you come across a 30-40 year old person who grew up in WONJ, you will most likely get the same story from that guy or girl, as Mike has become somewhat of a hometown hero--well more of a local legend here and just about everyone in town has heard his story and several more that have followed.

R137 - Cool story, bro.

Does that adorable Ben Rosenfield from the last season of Boardwalk Empire fit into the story?

R137 - Actually, I'm gonna respond properly to your stupid ass because I'm in a feisty mood. And there's some other shit in here I've been meaning to clean up anyway, so might as well start with you.

Firstly, let us assume you are not actually an attention-seeking liar and what you said was true. Forgive me, but so fucking what? Michael has acknowledged he was an asshole as a kid, and a drug user to boot. He owned his shit, so frankly, big fucking deal.

Secondly, the rumors about Michael and older men are not brand new information and have been discussed ad nauseum in other threads here. Again, big yawn. And I find it very revealing that you consider THAT proof of Michael's awfulness when, in fact, it is no such thing. I mean, you realise this is a gay message board right? We're gay men. You just came in here acting like being gay, or having sex with guys, is horrible. Fuck you, man. Seriously.

Thirdly, while I'm sure some of the stuff about his drug use probably is hurtful to hear about for his family, if they are also upset about the fact he likes men well, again, I'm not impressed. That makes them homophobic. Which is something that fans have suspected before.

Fourthly, there are plenty of stories about what a great person Michael is to work with out there, including from people I know. Seriously I've never heard a bad story about him outside of 'has drug problems'. I do, however, have stories on what a dickhead Saint Joseph is. From people who used to be his friends no less.

And lastly...this is addressed to the idiot on the first page claiming to be an insider: you, asshole, are a liar. As I've said elsewhere, Joe broke up with Michael because he was a heroin addict. The rest of that shit never happened, and believe me I would fucking know if it had. Fuck you for defaming someone just to defend that fake-ass fool.

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