What actors did Lucille Ball sleep with? Was she really a hooker before hitting it big? On who dated who they have Lucy as "rumored" to have slept with 25 men but only two confirmed. Her husbands! She had to have more lovers than that. Jimmy Cagney, Robert Mitchum, Paul Douglas, Milton Berle and others were listed as rumored. Does anyone know anything more?
Lucy was stunning when she was young - but any of this would have to be pre 'ILL', and though they separated for a while in the 40's, she was married to Desi in what, '43 - but she had already been kicking around Hollywood since about '33, so that's 10 years of men she could have been banging. It could have been anyone / everyone.
"immy Cagney, Robert Mitchum, Paul Douglas, Milton Berle and others were listed as rumored."
Armored where? Did you hear those rumors at the Stork Club in 1949?
I think she did indeed date Henry Fonda briefly. I think I heard it from that host on TMC, or whatever, who gives little facts and gossip from the old Hollywood years. They were showing Yours, Mine and Ours.
Lucille was a lot like her character in Stage Door, yet she dated directors and producers who could help her career. She gave nothing away.
She and Desi married in 1940.
Yay! A new Lucy thread. It's about time.
If you want see Lucy play the bad girl, try [italic]Dance, Girl, Dance[/italic], directed by Dorothy Arzner. It's not a great movie. I just got a kick out of it because Lucy was the bad girl in a dancing troupe, contrasting with Maureen O'Hara, who really just wanted to dance ballet.
As for her real love life, my impression was that she was on the prim side for Hollywood.
I think she also dated Bill Holden in the 1940s, long before he hit it really big.
Early in her career she reportedly dated British actor Ralph Forbes and B movie director Alexander Hall. She also had an alleged affair with married producer Pandro Berman. (Which either hurt or helped her at RKO.) Rumor had it she slept with George Sanders when they made Lured, and much later had a fling with her Wildcat co-star, the very hunky Keith Andes.
Another rumor was she gave Bob Hope some kind of sexual favors to get Desi the job of musical director on Hope's radio show.
Gossip, all of the above. This is still DL, isn't it?
I can't picture Lucy in bed with anybody. That said,I hope she got a taste of Mitchum's horsemeat.
Evan Frankel claimed in his auto-biography that they were an item. Why did I read that? Well, I was a houseguest of friends of a guy with whom I was about to break up. So it was a tense, strange weekend.
In Henry Fonda's AFI acceptance speech (on Youtube) he says he dated Lucille Ball and that, if he had played his cards right, the studio could have been called HenryLu.
I wonder if her carpet matched the drapes.
Lucy spent almost all of the 40's and 50's married to Desi and deeply in love with him. That being said, no telling if she had a fling here and there since she knew Desi screwed around on her and it hurt her deeply. She was surrounded by so much male beauty at MGM that I cannot imagine she would not have taken advantage of some of those stars during separations from Desi or while they were fighting. I would have had sex with George Sanders, too!
Uh, no, R12.
[quote]What actors did Lucille Ball sleep with?
Don't look at me.
[quote]What actors did Lucille Ball sleep with? Was she really a hooker before hitting it big?
Of course she was!
Here on DL, just like all attractive actors are gay, all successful actresses were once hookers.
There was quite a buzz back in the day about Lucy's relationship with the much younger Judd Hirsch which ultimately negatively affected her chances of getting the role of Beth in "Ordinary People" a role, granted, she was too old for, but with the right lighting and makeup could've really hit out of the park.
[quote]negatively affected her chances of getting the role of Beth in "Ordinary People"
Yes, but Lucy proved them wrong and showed what a dramatic force of nature she was in her cinematic triumph, Stone Pillow.
Mary Margaret McMertz
Speaking of "Stone Pillow", Lucy had a late-in-life lesbian fling with her co-star in that film, Daphne Zuniga.
And don't forget her years-long relationship with Vivian Vance!
In addition, rumors of Lucy's torrid affair with Peter Frampton negatively affected her chances of being chosen to play the title role in "The French Lieutenant's Woman." Yes, perhaps she was not quite right physically for that part either, but she would have also it right out of the park, just as she did with Mame Dennis Burnside.
Although Lucy was the first pick to play Doris, the lead in "Same Time Next Year", her chances were ruined as she was replaced by Ellen Burstyn when it was discovered Lucy had once bearded for the director's brother before he became famous in Soap. She had fallen for Richard but Richard only wanted bearding in between marriages. She was considered negatively affected by this forbidden, unrequited love.
No one could have satisfied Lucille Ball like Bea Arthur's big stuff.
Weren't Lucy's married years at MGM relatively short?
I think she was one of those stars with the proverbial 7 year contract that wasn't extended.
Supposedly, Lucy was introduced to Desi by Ann Miller and Van Johnson when they all made Too Many Girls at RKO (I think Desi and Van were both imported from the Broadway production). Did all four stars make the transition to MGM and bigger stardom after that film?
A few weeks ago TCM ran a B picture series that Lucy filmed playing a recurring character named Annabelle who was a B picture movie star.
Kind of like the Ann Sothern Maisie B pictures, though now I'm blanking whether this was for RKO or Metro. She was pretty funny in them and definitely showed the flair for comedy that matured with I Love Lucy.
Abbott and Costello
It's funny watching some of her old movies because she had a much more gravelly, almost gang moll-ish type voice, than her ILL higher pitched voice.
Annabel was at RKO - and would have continued but the writer of the original stories got into a money fight with the studio, and they figured it would cost too much to go one with any more of the pictures.
As has already been stated, Lucy dated some actors for fun....but for business, it was the producers and the directors.
Sorry, but once she got into 60's 'Lucy Show' Lucy , she was a ball- busting 'man'. A real man, wanting chain- smoking, husky voiced, bitchy older Lucy ? I don't see it. Can you imagine the sex "Shut up. On your knees. Gimmie a cigarette". I've got to get to the studio.....get out"
Lucy had a bad rep in her hometown (Jamestown NY) long before her career started. Booze and taking other women's men.
Lucy and all 3 of the Stooges had a sex party after filming was completed on "Three Little Pigskins."
Lucy used a strap on and fucked Moe, Larry and Curly.
Hard-boiled Lucy. She's SO good.
"Blow, Ruby. I'm tired of your dialogue."
"That dame is a lumpa mud!"
I understand it was Charles Bronson in the 1970s. Read it in Photoplay.
She was the best cocksucker that I ever knew.
[quote]What actors did Lucille Ball sleep with?
Well, I don't know, dahling, she never sucked MY cock.
Lucille Ball's voice became so low and hoarse between "I Love Lucy" and "The Lucy Show." By the time she did "Stone Pillow" she sounded like a man. Was this attributed to smoking or menopause?
I think she was inhibited in bed, which made Desi seek out sluts on the side. If you want to keep a hot Latin at home, you have to ride It like a cowgirl.
There's the famous story of when she was being interviewed by a male reporter, he kept talking to her chest. So she took out the pair of falsies she was using to enhance her bustline- and shook them at him. That doesn't sound very seductive.
If she had put out, she'd probably have had a better pre-ILL career.
r36, Lucy was a heavy smoker of unfiltered cigarettes for her entire adult life and she also liked her booze. By the time of "the Lucy Show" she was in her 50's and all the booze and cigs had lowered her voice to gravel.
According to an old movie magazine gossip item (Modern Screen circa 1960?) Lucille Ball and Bobby Darin were seen on the town. Even though there were no pictures, Lucy was crazy about Bobby. Lucy's favorite album was "Bobby Darin at the Copa." And, to Lucy, Bobby seemed like a younger version of Desi. But, alas...
RE 37 - I think Lucy did put out, but when she found Desi's Cuban cigar peen, she was happy, and satisfied. But he wanted to 'share' it with every little actress he came across. It's the occupational hazard of having. Big cock. Your so proud of it, you want everyone to experience it. Finally, after Desi was arrested at a whore house, in Hollywood, the embarressment was too much. Lucy filed for divorce.
She's a whore, darlin.
Lucy wanted to sleep with all the grips and the best boy on Mame, but Gary talked her out of it.
One of her biographers mentioned the Lucille Ball was ill and had to leave high school for a time. Rumors in Jamestown had it that she had been pregnant and had a abortion
It is unlikely that Lucy slept with Paul Douglas, who was reportedly gay. But Lucy was reputed to have had sex with another important performer, Vivian Vance. Vance herself was concerned that this rumor might have had some basis in truth.
R47, I never heard that Paul Douglas was gay. For whatever it may be worth (very little, I know), he was married twice & had a kid with each wife. Regardless, he was a fine actor -- my mother was a huge fan of his & I've always like him too.
Has anyone seen the I Love Lucy porn parodies that came out in the '80s, 'Lucy Has A Ball' and 'Lucy Makes It Big'? Surprisingly, the porn parody boom hasn't seen a rerelease of either of these titles.
^^ Starring Lucille Balls!
[quote]By the time of "the Lucy Show" she was in her 50's and all the booze and cigs had lowered her voice to gravel.
She also developed nodes on her vocal cords after shout-singing for several months on stage in the musical WILDCAT in 1961.
R49 Yes! I actually have a copy of "Lucy Has a Ball" (with the incredible Tony Montana.)
You need to burn that onto some discs and make some money on ioffer, r52.
Even into her seventies, Lucy could not be satisfied sexually by just any one man. Her legendary affairs with the biggest male celebrities during the 1980s were legendary, from Kevin Kline to Eddie Murphy, to all the members of Duran Duran (all four at once, on one memorable occasion).
It was her affair with Grace Jones that lost her the part of Pola Ivanova in A View To A Kill, which she would've knocked out of the park with the right lighting and costume. The unhappy ending of the affair meant that tension on set would have been unbearable. Roger Moore campaigned hard for Lucy, the pair having had a memorable one nighter in Duluth one summer, but to no avail.
Roger always said her greatest charm was her removable teeth.
/Even Gary Morton knew that Desi was the great love of Lucille Ball's life.
When informed that her husband was calling on the telephone, Lucy was said to have replied "Which husband, the Reuben or the Cuban"
As much as she loved Desi, she couldn't take his drinking, his gambling and his cheating on her with hookers, starlets and some of her friends. In addition, the operation of Desilu Studios put tremendous strain on the Arnaz-Ball marriage
His reply: "What's the big deal? For the most part, they're hookers."
Ball's biographers said that she didn't like to be alone. She was in her 50s, divorced and "lonely and loaded" when she met Gary Morton. Was it a love match? Who knows? But is it was great second marriage for both of them.
Yes, Lucy let Gary have his expensive toys, but she kept him on a short leash. Had he cheated on her, I have no doubt that she would crushed him into dust.
When Lucy wasn't present, Gary was often snubbed and insulted to face, considered little more than a gigolo by many of Lucy's and Desi's friends. Publicly, he maintained his cool. The closest he ever got to getting back at some of his tormentors was when he played Sherman Hart -- a thinly disguised Milton Berle -- opposite Dustin Hoffman in Lenny
Duran Duran had members, R54. I should know.
5 members! Shitstained computer!
Was Lucille Ball a man in drag like Mae West allegedly was?
More on Keith Andes, Lucy's hunky WILDCAT star, please!
Didn't Desilu (post Desi) even finance a TV series or two starring Andes? Or maybe I'm thinking of the short-lived GLYNIS starring Glynis Johns but co-starring Andes?
Well, let me clarify. I did get close enough to it a couple of times to be able to confirm that not only was the carpet not red, it was like reaching into a muff made of Brillo-pads and coming out with the contents of an ashtray from a sunken tug.
Does anyone know anything about Desi's second wife, Edith Mack Hirsch Arnaz.
I know that she was a redhead and that her first husband owned KalKan dog food. Other than that, I know very little about her. Can anyone add to her biography?
Lucy was very straight laced and did not like how perverted Hollywood became.
She had a long affair with Pandro Berman at RKO, which, unfortunately, didn't advance her career. he probably heard her her sing.
While she may have had a few hit TV series, her only lasting legacy is with the original I Love Lucy episodes. Little of it was her doing. She never was the sharpest tack in the box. Thank God she married one.
none of it was of her doing?
So, somebody else was up there making us laugh? Was it her evil twin?
Lucy was engaged to Broderick Crawford at some point. I assume she fucked him a time or two.
HOW CAN YOU GUYS TALK OUT OF YOUR *SS. READ UP THE FACTS ABOUT LUCILLE BALL, WATCH DOCUMENTARIES AND THEN STATE YOU'RE FACTS!!! SHE WAS AN AMAZING MODEL, ACTRESS, TELEVISION STAR ETC.
DON'T YOU GO AROUND AND DIS MAH LUCY!!!!
DON'T LISTEN TO HATERS THEY WILL ALWAYS HATE... READ UP BEFORE YOU POST. I'VE SEEN SUCH POSTS "I HEARD SHE GOT ENGAGED TO RODERICK CRAWFORD, AND SLEPT WITH HIM." SHE WAS NEVER ENGAGED TO THAT GUY!
When money gets tight pants get loose, hunty.
R69, please loosen your caftan and unclutch a little. Are we a tad under-medicated this morning, muffin?
She was a Leo. Enough said.
Lucy dated Tony Dow for 3 years after Leave it to Beaver was cancelled. She teased him about her gray and red beaver.
Woman claims to be Lucy and Desi's child and abandoned by them.
That makes me sad that Morton was put down and treated badly when Lucy wasn't around.
He wasn't some gold digger. I think they loved each other and wanted to make a stable secure life together something Desi never could.
Was it the a fiery hot romance like with Desi? Probably not but people grow and need different things at different points in their life.
By 1961, Lucy had had enough big pinga to last a lifetime. She needed something else from Gary, and she got it.
Lucy had an affair with a married Pandro S Berman.
Gary Morton was a gold digger. He was just smart enough to know he couldn't take the money and run. He had to be in it for the long haul. He figured with Lucy's smoking and drinking she wouldn't make it past Kennedy's first term.
Lucy had quite a rep as a boozer and good time gal in Jamestown long before she started in show business.
Lucy went from O'le to Oy Veh!
Gary signed a pre nup and was at her beck and call for 27 years.
He clearly loved her and I am tired of him being bashed.
Nobody ever says anything unkind about Desi's second wife. Bit of a double standard to say Gary was a gold digger because he came from a humble background. He was a devoted, kindhearted guy who never screwed around. He made her laugh and was a wonderful step dad to her kids.
Watch this video, it shows his deep affection for the family he married into.
There is a reason why Lucy had such a hard time conceiving.
[By the time of "the Lucy Show" she was in her 50's and all the booze and cigs had lowered her voice to gravel.
She also developed nodes on her vocal cords after shout-singing for several months on stage in the musical WILDCAT in 1961.]
Amazingly Lucille Ball, spoke in a high pitched voice when she was a young contract actress. The studio vocal coaches advised her to smoke and to do vocal exercises (basically screaming at the top of her lungs) to lower her pitch. The studio vocal coaches, including Gene Tierney who became a lifelong chain smoker with a gravel voice late in life, gave this same advice to most young actresses. Also Lucille admired older actresses like Carole Lombard who had perfected a lower-pitched sexy screen voice. While riding in an open car with Desi, Lucille would do her vocal exercises (screaming).
While developing "I Love Lucy"(ILL), Lucille and Desi agreed that all rehearsals should be done in "full voice", which was basically the loud, back-of-the-theatre voice that would be used when the show was actually filmed. During ILL, Lucille was obsessive about rehearsing every show, so effectively she spent hours every day screaming her lines during rehearsal. She actually argued with and insulted some big name guest stars who refused to do all rehearsals in "full-voice".
As the earlier poster said, when Lucy appeared on Broadway in Wildcat in the early 60s, the character was written different from the Lucy character. But as the show opened and struggled to find it's way, Lucy reportedly fell back into the Lucy character, because that's what the audiences expected. Damage to her vocal cords, a lifetime of heavy smoking, drinking, menopause, screaming her lines in TV and theater rehearsals - it all began to catch up with her by the late 1950s. Her voice was seriously damaged, but she refused to make any changes.
We did it once. No more. I had sufficient.
When Joan Rivers had her daytime talk show, she did a wonderful episode with some of Lucy's former directors, friends, and co-stars just after Lucy died. They told some great stories about Lucy. Lucy grew up very poor in Jamestown, NY. Her father died when she was young. Her grandfather and her mother DeeDee struggled to keep the family together. An accidental shooting that killed a neighbor child resulted in a lawsuit that cost the family what little security they had - Lucy's grandfather had been responsible for watching the children.
Her home life was so bad that by the time Lucy was in her teens, she was ready to escape to NYC and to try to make her fortune. Lucy was always intentionally vague about that part of her life. She would say only that she worked as model for Hattie Carnegie. One of her directors and her friends said on the Joan Rivers show that she would privately tell stories about being paid to go to parties as a young girl in NYC and finding her payment in cash under the dinner plate. As one friend said, you can bet she wasn't being paid to show up and eat. Lucy did what she had to do.
She also posed topless.
[quote]Nobody ever says anything unkind about Desi's second wife. Bit of a double standard to say Gary was a gold digger because he came from a humble background.
That's because Bitch Ball cheated Desi out of him money and he had basically nothing. He was broke and looking for any money when he produced the Mothers In Law.
Gary was a huge mooch who did nothing and extracted a salary for it. That is, by definition a mooch and/or toy boy.
Of course Gary was a mooch. That guy is just defending him because they are of the same "tribe." IF you know what I mean.
What DO you mean?
It starts with the letter between "I" and "K" and rhymes with EEEEEWWWWWW
As in yech.
Wasn't Lucy married for most of her adult life?
Young Lucille as a blonde. Love this look for her.
Lucy must have truly loved Gary Morton. If she were going to marry a mooch she could have had her picking from almost any young, gorgeous "Wanna Be". She didn't need to settle on an old, ugly song and dance man.
Take note of Juliette Mills.
Gary Morton seemed to do nothing but play golf all day. Lucy obviously must've loved him because they were married for many years, and he didn't appear to have much income.
After all the turmoil with Desi, Lucy probably wanted a nice, quiet marriage and Gary seemed to provide that for her. Also, by the time she met Gary she was well into middle-age and probably wasn't all that interested in sex anymore.
Gary was on the payroll. A glorified assistant.
[quote]If she were going to marry a mooch she could have had her picking from almost any young, gorgeous "Wanna Be".
No, she couldn't. She was a sagging old booze hag. Even rich ones don't get a choice like that.
Gary Morton could've been a dog for all the sexuality between them. She'd just pat him on the head like a good dog. She was a vindictive bitch who loved to humiliate others.
FWIW, my very late mother (1921-1978) used to exclaim that Lucy had "slept her way to the top."
Not that my mother would have had any insider information, she was born and raised in Bronxville, but this was the impression she had gleaned over the years.
(By the way, my mother also had a strong opinion about untalented actors ("They must be sleeping with someBODY!" and untalented child actors ("His/her mother/father must be sleeping with someBODY!")
She would have loved TMZ.
R99. I still maintain that even if Lucy were a complete crone she still could have done better than Gary Morton.
What is this vitriol for Gary Morton? He put up with Lucy's mood swings for 27 years.
He is a profile in courage, Blanche.
Henry Fonda was in love with her and she was in love with Jack Lemon.
R84: "Wildcat" was selling tickets, and would have continued for a fairly long run through 1961. Ball was not used to singing and dancing for eight performances a week & singing was never her strong point anyway. She was raising two kids, and not getting much rest between performances.
Desilu was financing the show, so Lucy could give up, which she did after fainting on stage and breaking a nearby actress's arm.
She said she was "stuck in a hit".
Pre-Hollywood, Lucy was a skimpy dressed theatrical showgirl. While not prostitution per-se, generous stage-door Johnnies were always a perk for "Broadway Babies".
With her good looks and visibility, I'd take it as a given in depression era America she would at least have come close to the line if not cross it.
And thanks to whoever bumped this thread. I wouldn't have thought to download this music video without it.
Definitely dated Henry Fonda, per Stefan Kanfer's book on Lucy. She also was linked to Orson Welles, William Holden, Brian Donlevy, Oscar Levant, Broderick Crawford (!), George Sanders, Franchot Tone (after his divorce from La Crawford), Lee Bowman and George Raft among others. She also did bearding duty for Cesar Romero.
Didn't Eddie Fisher claim in his memoirs that Lucy cheated on Desi with him?
When she met Desi in 1940, he was having flings with both Betty Grable and Lupe Velez.
"She also did bearding duty for Cesar Romero."
Interesting since Desi is alleged to have allowed Romero to blow him to get Romero to stop coming on to him.
Lucy was into threesomes. Her motto was "one in the pink one in the stink."
Everything I've read about Henry Fonda has been bad.
Why would any woman want to be with him?
"Even into her seventies, Lucy could not be satisfied sexually by just any one man. Her legendary affairs with the biggest male celebrities during the 1980s were legendary, from Kevin Kline to Eddie Murphy, to all the members of Duran Duran (all four at once, on one memorable occasion)."
Hey now, in the 80s there were five members of Duran Duran--though she may have taken a pass on Andy, he wasn't quite as incredibly hawt as the others.:)
Some say she was patient zero.
[quote]It's true. Old broads can't get decent looking men.
That's news to me!
[quote]Watch this video, it shows his deep affection for the family he married into.
I agree, R81. Gary and Lucille really seem to have had a genuine love and affection for one another. In this video, plus a couple of others that I've seen, he comes across as a loving, kind man… a sweetheart. He was likely a good husband and companion for Lucille and brought a solid loyalty that she hadn't had before. They seemed happy and really good together.
(In that video, Desi, Jr. was a sweet kid. Lucie, Jr. seemed like a true bitch in the making.)
Richard Mulligan was gay?!
Probably one of the most awkward most embarassing things I have ever seen on TV was the Barbara Walters interview where Lucy went on and on and on about Desi while Gary Morton got smaller and smaller and smaller by her side. Her one great love was Desi - and Gary knew it.
I'm surprised she didn't send Gary out for cigarettes while she was doing the interview.
R115, good lord...... is that for real? Never heard such a thing, she didn't seem all that spry to be banging young guys.
What do you mean Lucy cheated Desi out of his money and that's why he died broke?
I always read he had a huge gambling addiction and that's how he lost his money.
Anyone remember the story Leno told on the Tonight Show right after Lucy died?
I remember it being very touching yet incredibly funny.
All I remember is he ran into her on Rodeo Drive. She'd just had her hair done and was waiting on her driver.
She was leaning against a wall, smoking a cigarette with one knee bent and the foot touching the wall.