What actors did Lucille Ball sleep with? Was she really a hooker before hitting it big? On who dated who they have Lucy as "rumored" to have slept with 25 men but only two confirmed. Her husbands! She had to have more lovers than that. Jimmy Cagney, Robert Mitchum, Paul Douglas, Milton Berle and others were listed as rumored. Does anyone know anything more?
Lucy was stunning when she was young - but any of this would have to be pre 'ILL', and though they separated for a while in the 40's, she was married to Desi in what, '43 - but she had already been kicking around Hollywood since about '33, so that's 10 years of men she could have been banging. It could have been anyone / everyone.
"immy Cagney, Robert Mitchum, Paul Douglas, Milton Berle and others were listed as rumored."
Armored where? Did you hear those rumors at the Stork Club in 1949?
I think she did indeed date Henry Fonda briefly. I think I heard it from that host on TMC, or whatever, who gives little facts and gossip from the old Hollywood years. They were showing Yours, Mine and Ours.
Lucille was a lot like her character in Stage Door, yet she dated directors and producers who could help her career. She gave nothing away.
She and Desi married in 1940.
Yay! A new Lucy thread. It's about time.
If you want see Lucy play the bad girl, try [italic]Dance, Girl, Dance[/italic], directed by Dorothy Arzner. It's not a great movie. I just got a kick out of it because Lucy was the bad girl in a dancing troupe, contrasting with Maureen O'Hara, who really just wanted to dance ballet.
As for her real love life, my impression was that she was on the prim side for Hollywood.
I think she also dated Bill Holden in the 1940s, long before he hit it really big.
Early in her career she reportedly dated British actor Ralph Forbes and B movie director Alexander Hall. She also had an alleged affair with married producer Pandro Berman. (Which either hurt or helped her at RKO.) Rumor had it she slept with George Sanders when they made Lured, and much later had a fling with her Wildcat co-star, the very hunky Keith Andes.
Another rumor was she gave Bob Hope some kind of sexual favors to get Desi the job of musical director on Hope's radio show.
Gossip, all of the above. This is still DL, isn't it?
I can't picture Lucy in bed with anybody. That said,I hope she got a taste of Mitchum's horsemeat.
Evan Frankel claimed in his auto-biography that they were an item. Why did I read that? Well, I was a houseguest of friends of a guy with whom I was about to break up. So it was a tense, strange weekend.
In Henry Fonda's AFI acceptance speech (on Youtube) he says he dated Lucille Ball and that, if he had played his cards right, the studio could have been called HenryLu.
I wonder if her carpet matched the drapes.
Lucy spent almost all of the 40's and 50's married to Desi and deeply in love with him. That being said, no telling if she had a fling here and there since she knew Desi screwed around on her and it hurt her deeply. She was surrounded by so much male beauty at MGM that I cannot imagine she would not have taken advantage of some of those stars during separations from Desi or while they were fighting. I would have had sex with George Sanders, too!
Uh, no, R12.
[quote]What actors did Lucille Ball sleep with?
Don't look at me.
[quote]What actors did Lucille Ball sleep with? Was she really a hooker before hitting it big?
Of course she was!
Here on DL, just like all attractive actors are gay, all successful actresses were once hookers.
There was quite a buzz back in the day about Lucy's relationship with the much younger Judd Hirsch which ultimately negatively affected her chances of getting the role of Beth in "Ordinary People" a role, granted, she was too old for, but with the right lighting and makeup could've really hit out of the park.
[quote]negatively affected her chances of getting the role of Beth in "Ordinary People"
Yes, but Lucy proved them wrong and showed what a dramatic force of nature she was in her cinematic triumph, Stone Pillow.
Mary Margaret McMertz
Speaking of "Stone Pillow", Lucy had a late-in-life lesbian fling with her co-star in that film, Daphne Zuniga.
And don't forget her years-long relationship with Vivian Vance!
In addition, rumors of Lucy's torrid affair with Peter Frampton negatively affected her chances of being chosen to play the title role in "The French Lieutenant's Woman." Yes, perhaps she was not quite right physically for that part either, but she would have also it right out of the park, just as she did with Mame Dennis Burnside.
Although Lucy was the first pick to play Doris, the lead in "Same Time Next Year", her chances were ruined as she was replaced by Ellen Burstyn when it was discovered Lucy had once bearded for the director's brother before he became famous in Soap. She had fallen for Richard but Richard only wanted bearding in between marriages. She was considered negatively affected by this forbidden, unrequited love.
No one could have satisfied Lucille Ball like Bea Arthur's big stuff.
Weren't Lucy's married years at MGM relatively short?
I think she was one of those stars with the proverbial 7 year contract that wasn't extended.
Supposedly, Lucy was introduced to Desi by Ann Miller and Van Johnson when they all made Too Many Girls at RKO (I think Desi and Van were both imported from the Broadway production). Did all four stars make the transition to MGM and bigger stardom after that film?
A few weeks ago TCM ran a B picture series that Lucy filmed playing a recurring character named Annabelle who was a B picture movie star.
Kind of like the Ann Sothern Maisie B pictures, though now I'm blanking whether this was for RKO or Metro. She was pretty funny in them and definitely showed the flair for comedy that matured with I Love Lucy.
Abbott and Costello
It's funny watching some of her old movies because she had a much more gravelly, almost gang moll-ish type voice, than her ILL higher pitched voice.
Annabel was at RKO - and would have continued but the writer of the original stories got into a money fight with the studio, and they figured it would cost too much to go one with any more of the pictures.
As has already been stated, Lucy dated some actors for fun....but for business, it was the producers and the directors.
Sorry, but once she got into 60's 'Lucy Show' Lucy , she was a ball- busting 'man'. A real man, wanting chain- smoking, husky voiced, bitchy older Lucy ? I don't see it. Can you imagine the sex "Shut up. On your knees. Gimmie a cigarette". I've got to get to the studio.....get out"
Lucy had a bad rep in her hometown (Jamestown NY) long before her career started. Booze and taking other women's men.
Lucy and all 3 of the Stooges had a sex party after filming was completed on "Three Little Pigskins."
Lucy used a strap on and fucked Moe, Larry and Curly.
Hard-boiled Lucy. She's SO good.
"Blow, Ruby. I'm tired of your dialogue."
"That dame is a lumpa mud!"
I understand it was Charles Bronson in the 1970s. Read it in Photoplay.
She was the best cocksucker that I ever knew.
[quote]What actors did Lucille Ball sleep with?
Well, I don't know, dahling, she never sucked MY cock.
Lucille Ball's voice became so low and hoarse between "I Love Lucy" and "The Lucy Show." By the time she did "Stone Pillow" she sounded like a man. Was this attributed to smoking or menopause?
I think she was inhibited in bed, which made Desi seek out sluts on the side. If you want to keep a hot Latin at home, you have to ride It like a cowgirl.
There's the famous story of when she was being interviewed by a male reporter, he kept talking to her chest. So she took out the pair of falsies she was using to enhance her bustline- and shook them at him. That doesn't sound very seductive.
If she had put out, she'd probably have had a better pre-ILL career.
r36, Lucy was a heavy smoker of unfiltered cigarettes for her entire adult life and she also liked her booze. By the time of "the Lucy Show" she was in her 50's and all the booze and cigs had lowered her voice to gravel.
According to an old movie magazine gossip item (Modern Screen circa 1960?) Lucille Ball and Bobby Darin were seen on the town. Even though there were no pictures, Lucy was crazy about Bobby. Lucy's favorite album was "Bobby Darin at the Copa." And, to Lucy, Bobby seemed like a younger version of Desi. But, alas...
RE 37 - I think Lucy did put out, but when she found Desi's Cuban cigar peen, she was happy, and satisfied. But he wanted to 'share' it with every little actress he came across. It's the occupational hazard of having. Big cock. Your so proud of it, you want everyone to experience it. Finally, after Desi was arrested at a whore house, in Hollywood, the embarressment was too much. Lucy filed for divorce.
She's a whore, darlin.
Lucy wanted to sleep with all the grips and the best boy on Mame, but Gary talked her out of it.
One of her biographers mentioned the Lucille Ball was ill and had to leave high school for a time. Rumors in Jamestown had it that she had been pregnant and had a abortion
It is unlikely that Lucy slept with Paul Douglas, who was reportedly gay. But Lucy was reputed to have had sex with another important performer, Vivian Vance. Vance herself was concerned that this rumor might have had some basis in truth.
R47, I never heard that Paul Douglas was gay. For whatever it may be worth (very little, I know), he was married twice & had a kid with each wife. Regardless, he was a fine actor -- my mother was a huge fan of his & I've always like him too.
Has anyone seen the I Love Lucy porn parodies that came out in the '80s, 'Lucy Has A Ball' and 'Lucy Makes It Big'? Surprisingly, the porn parody boom hasn't seen a rerelease of either of these titles.
^^ Starring Lucille Balls!
[quote]By the time of "the Lucy Show" she was in her 50's and all the booze and cigs had lowered her voice to gravel.
She also developed nodes on her vocal cords after shout-singing for several months on stage in the musical WILDCAT in 1961.
R49 Yes! I actually have a copy of "Lucy Has a Ball" (with the incredible Tony Montana.)
You need to burn that onto some discs and make some money on ioffer, r52.
Even into her seventies, Lucy could not be satisfied sexually by just any one man. Her legendary affairs with the biggest male celebrities during the 1980s were legendary, from Kevin Kline to Eddie Murphy, to all the members of Duran Duran (all four at once, on one memorable occasion).
It was her affair with Grace Jones that lost her the part of Pola Ivanova in A View To A Kill, which she would've knocked out of the park with the right lighting and costume. The unhappy ending of the affair meant that tension on set would have been unbearable. Roger Moore campaigned hard for Lucy, the pair having had a memorable one nighter in Duluth one summer, but to no avail.
Roger always said her greatest charm was her removable teeth.
/Even Gary Morton knew that Desi was the great love of Lucille Ball's life.
When informed that her husband was calling on the telephone, Lucy was said to have replied "Which husband, the Reuben or the Cuban"
As much as she loved Desi, she couldn't take his drinking, his gambling and his cheating on her with hookers, starlets and some of her friends. In addition, the operation of Desilu Studios put tremendous strain on the Arnaz-Ball marriage
His reply: "What's the big deal? For the most part, they're hookers."
Ball's biographers said that she didn't like to be alone. She was in her 50s, divorced and "lonely and loaded" when she met Gary Morton. Was it a love match? Who knows? But is it was great second marriage for both of them.
Yes, Lucy let Gary have his expensive toys, but she kept him on a short leash. Had he cheated on her, I have no doubt that she would crushed him into dust.
When Lucy wasn't present, Gary was often snubbed and insulted to face, considered little more than a gigolo by many of Lucy's and Desi's friends. Publicly, he maintained his cool. The closest he ever got to getting back at some of his tormentors was when he played Sherman Hart -- a thinly disguised Milton Berle -- opposite Dustin Hoffman in Lenny
Duran Duran had members, R54. I should know.
5 members! Shitstained computer!
Was Lucille Ball a man in drag like Mae West allegedly was?
More on Keith Andes, Lucy's hunky WILDCAT star, please!
Didn't Desilu (post Desi) even finance a TV series or two starring Andes? Or maybe I'm thinking of the short-lived GLYNIS starring Glynis Johns but co-starring Andes?
Well, let me clarify. I did get close enough to it a couple of times to be able to confirm that not only was the carpet not red, it was like reaching into a muff made of Brillo-pads and coming out with the contents of an ashtray from a sunken tug.
Does anyone know anything about Desi's second wife, Edith Mack Hirsch Arnaz.
I know that she was a redhead and that her first husband owned KalKan dog food. Other than that, I know very little about her. Can anyone add to her biography?
Lucy was very straight laced and did not like how perverted Hollywood became.
She had a long affair with Pandro Berman at RKO, which, unfortunately, didn't advance her career. he probably heard her her sing.
While she may have had a few hit TV series, her only lasting legacy is with the original I Love Lucy episodes. Little of it was her doing. She never was the sharpest tack in the box. Thank God she married one.
none of it was of her doing?
So, somebody else was up there making us laugh? Was it her evil twin?
Lucy was engaged to Broderick Crawford at some point. I assume she fucked him a time or two.