She was high because she was self-medicating the bipolar, before she even knew she was bipolar.
Who was she wishing happy birthday to? Were they even really there?
I am fascinated by this.
"I want what she's having ..."
r2 she was wishing her mom who was in the audience, an upcoming Happy Bday . In real life the acceptance wasn't as bad as it looks. The cameraman pulled in too close and u didnt see that Patty using sign language, so in the moment where she seems to be just standing there, she is actually signing.
You're kidding, right OP?
She didn't seem very happy to be with Desi Jr. Didn't she have a baby with him?
Yeah, I can google it
Wasn't there a rumor that Desi found out she was pregnant and broke it off with her on the day of the awards?
Maybe she was just paying homage to Neely O'Hara.
what a loony
Do all bipolar people have such great hair?
I saw a Dateline/2020/Whatever interview with she and her children years ago (I think it's when Sean Astin's book came out) and she still claims Desi is Sean's father even though he had DNA testing done and it proved that Desi isn't. But Sean does have a relationship with Desi, his stepfather John Astin and his birth dad Michael Tell.
I think Patty really wanted Desi to be the father because she knew Lucy hated her guts and it probably drove Lucy nuts that her son knocked her up.
Didn't Desi Jr. go on to have a baby in Mr. and Mrs. Bo Jo Jones?
I like how she walks to the podium like a robot doing sharp, right-angle turns, and she nearly looks like she's going to overshoot the podium and has to be guided back to it.
Yes I believe the bipolar story. She says she was on one of her biggest bipolar highs ever, undoubtedly generated by knowing she was going to win that Emmy. It was a big comeback for her, the movie started out as a tv movie but ended up being released in theaters in Europe. She flipped out from the stress and hired a personal jet that week, flying around the country. Patty Duke was not that rich, all of her Patty Duke Show money was stolen by her guardians/managers. It was insane to imagine she could afford to rent a jet for a week. She was insane, the jet is part of the proof.
One thing I love about DL is the alternate reality created where Patty Duke is a huge star.
Who exactly are you referring to, r14? The movie *was* a big comeback for Patty, but looking like a drugged-out flake at the Emmys put an end to that real quick. She ended up spending the 70s traveling the country doing dinner theater, and taking any tv roles she could get. By the 80s she was at least getting better tv roles, but no she was never a big star again.
[quote]She ended up spending the 70s traveling the country doing dinner theater, and taking any tv roles she could get.
Won Emmy Outstanding Lead Actress in a Limited Series for:"Captains and the Kings"(1976)
Nominated Emmy Outstanding Lead Actress for a Single Appearance in a Drama or Comedy Series
for:Having Babies III (1978)
Nominated Emmy Outstanding Performance by a Supporting Actress in a Drama or Comedy Special
for: A Family Upside Down (1978)
Won Emmy Outstanding Lead Actress in a Limited Series or a Special for: The Miracle Worker (1979)
The 70's weren't that bad for her, she won two Emmys. She was ill. She finally got diagnosed and became an advocate for Mental Health and saved many lives. She's a fucking super hero. She lives on a farm. Ten years ago a horse knocked her over, she's actually very tiny. She fell and hit her head against a post in the barn and cracked her skull. Six months later she was singing and dancing on Broadway in "Oklahoma!".
R16, she said after the Emmys debacle her name was mud. She was probably going to get another shot at movie stardom, but not after the Emmys appearance. And I do remember her doing a lot of cheesy tv stuff immediately after. And yes, she and John Astin with their kids, were traveling the country doing dinner theater. They needed the money. I remember her talking about how stressful that period was.
no the baby turned out to be her second husband's (Mike Tell) baby. Sean hada DNA test to prove who his dad was.
OP is the Patty Duke Troll.
I am the Joyce Dewitt troll, and occasionally a Lisa Whelchel troll. Patty Duke is of only a passing interest to me.
I'm crazy about Patty Duke. When I was a kid I would jump for joy when I heard her TV show's theme song start!
And her performances in "The Miracle Worker" were fabulous.
OMG, "Having Babies III." That's a credit to adorn anyone's resume.
R23 The first "Having Babies" is far superior to the second because of Paula Prentiss. She played a diabolical and self centered mother to be who did drugs and dieted to the point that she went into early labor and had a stillborn when she was about five months along.
I've said it before but it's worth repeating...why, oh why, is no Hollywood producer out there considering Patty Duke for even a small, important supporting role in a film? The woman is an Academy Award winner and is one of the most talented actresses we've had in the last 40 years - not to mention her humanitarian work. If damn Betty White can be getting decent film roles in her dotage, there is no earthly reason why Duke should not be given more opportunities.
Despite everything, Patty Duke is a great actress.
I agree, R26. I wonder if it's as simple as they are afraid to work with her because of the bipolar issue (i.e., DISCRIMINATION IN THE WORKPLACE! (sorry for the ALL-CAPS - but ultimately a movie set is a workplace, and she is, if you look at it that way, someone who has a [mental[ disability.)
Not that there wouldn't be a hundred other reasons cited. I'd actually love to see her on stage!
Anyone here see here some years ago in a revival of "Oklahoma" - Bway? as Aunt Eller?
Another great fan of Patty Duke
She got an Emmy Nomination for 'Having Babies'
I worked on Call Me Anna the TV movie made from her book it was one of the first things I worked on when I came to LA. She's a really sweet lady and introduced herself to all the crew (as Anna) and learned our names. At the time she was happy to work or not work, whatever. I think she was still recuperating from her earlier years and didn't want to push it.
Her bio "Call Me Anna" is one of the best showbiz stories ever.
R30 Matthew Perry was in that movie (Call me Anna) what was he like?
I think they should do "Billie" as a Broadway musical!
I don't know that Matthew Perry was in it and he wasn't anybody then right? I was new out here just starting so I didn't have any reason to focus on him. The shooting schedule was pretty intense, we had about three weeks to shoot and there were somewhere around 63 sets? Can't remember exactly the number of sets but it was crazy.
One cool thing we shot some scenes at the studios where they used to do that show the 20 thousand dollar question. That building has since been torn down but it was great to learn about and see some of those old Hollywood locations.
Know just enough about bi - polar, to understand when a person is on the upside , they do 'grand' things, that usually make no sense - hence , the private jet, and marrying someone she only knew for a few hours. I remember seeing that wonderful actress, and funny lady, Jenifer Lewis , on "Oprah" once admitting she was bi polar, and how she went out and bought a $3,000,000 house once she couldn't afford. The manic period makes them go big.
I would hope that Duke is enjoying the quiet life. She had it so rough her first few decades. I also wish she would turn up again in something notable.
r33 Billie was on a Bway but it was called Time Out For Ginger.
R36 she does in Idaho, has for years. I think that is the main reason she doesn't work as steady b/c she far away and no one is thinking about her.
I just uploaded "Call Me Anna" to my ipad as something to read on my flight to Europe.
Is it juicy or just depressing?
both but inspiring!!!!
It was 1970. There were Quaaludes in the swag bags.
She most recently appeared in the current season of Drop Dead Diva, it was great to see her acting again & yes I am a fan.
BUMP b/c I love her...
I think she is an underrated actress with a very fine range. I enjoy her in everything I've seen her in. Might I suggest "Always Remember I Love You" when they play it near Christmastime. You'll love it.
I met her at an anniversary showing of the Miracle Worker several years ago in Boise. She lives in northern Idaho. She was very charming and petite. Had a question and answer session after the movie. She was really incredible in that movie.
Patty Duke is a national treasure and one of our greatest actresses.
I'm glad this thread was bumped because I've been watching her on Password Plus and thinking she's an underrated national treasure.
ur welcome r46 from r42 :-)
Northern Idaho is beautiful but goddamn it's 90% white supremacists. Seriously.
Years ago, her identical cousin Cathy was part of the crowd I ran with. When I first knew her, she was a waitress at "The Magic Pan."
I expected she'd be bitter about being a co-star on a hit TV series and then becoming so obscure. Whenever she talked about Patty, she had nothing but good things to say. (Trivia you'll read nowhere else: at Patty's insistence, Cathy was her stunt double in "Miracle Worker.")
Cathy moved to Portland and I lost track of her. Oh, yeah, I only met Patty once, and if you ask me, they looked nothing alike.
I think she's tremendous!
r48 the home that Patty lived in before her current one, was not too far from one of the white supremacists compounds. The compound was later closed as most of them up there have been
Eldergay confessional: I saw "Billie" in a theater.
r52 me too!!!
She's right that those are the four best words she ever learned, though.
I also saw her in Me, Natalie.
I saw her interviewed live at The Castro Theater after an anniversary showing of "Valley of the Dolls". The evening was surreal, with all the usual "audience participation" at any Castro Theater event, which always makes me proud of my City.
She was a scream. Very kind, intelligent, and tiny. I tried to find a link to the interview but failed. Sorry. Unlike Miss Dunaway, she gets the joke. PPSM has inspired me to read "Call Me Anna".
In 1968 I was a first grader who watched Black and White reruns of "The Patty Duke Show" after school, before "Batman" and after "Dark Shadows" on channel 36. It was a sea of camp for this little gayling.
Little did I know that 40+ years later I'd be living across the Bay amongst a crowd of other gay men enjoying the Camp company of Patty Duke.
Call her Anna
She is most likely manic depressive, the REAL term for it.
The problem is med for manic depression are NEVER stable. You need to constantly be under a doctor's care, because you have to adjust dosages at least twice a year.
Also things like getting a cold, can alter your body chemistry so you need to get your dosage adjusted again.
And if they fail to do this, they fly into a manic episode. Of course when they are manic, they don't want meds because it feels so good.
Manic Depression is like type 1 diabetes. It MUST be monitored all the time, to achieve stability.
[quote]I also saw her in Me, Natalie.
I watched this late one night on cable when I was about 12 and I loved it. It made me want to hop a Greyhound to New York and find myself.
Patty has worked steadily for the last forty years. There may have been some rough times, but there has never been periods of complete unemployement. She is always getting offered work.
It may not be the work YOU think she should get, but she's still in demand.
r58 - I've been treated for bipolar disorder for the past 30 years, so I know quite a bit about the disease. I agree it has to be monitored like Type 1 Diabetes, however getting a cold isn't going to change anything. What in the world are you talking about?
She really needs a big comeback project, but those things are magic mix of timing, material, and fate, and cannot be manufactured.
Betty White didn't plan for her Snickers commercial to launch her into the stratosphere, higher and more acclaimed than any time in her life, but there it was.
I hope the gods are as beneficient to Patty.
More Patty talk! Who else has read Call Me Anna?
I am sure that Patty is very upset these days, her dog died.
She should have taken that job on The Mary Tyler Moore Show as Ted's girlfriend!
"She is most likely manic depressive, the REAL term for it."
The real term for it in 1957.
Video response to r21. You will loose your mind.
Hi, PPSM, hope your having loads of Eurofun!
Whatever the reason, it's terribly sad. Embarrassing for her, the presenters she studiously ignored, her peers and her craft.
Sad. Sad. Sad.
I believe that she is probably bi-polar or manic depressive, but I don't know for sure. There is no doubt that she is a liar, even under oath, and she has no credibility in anything she might say. I've always liked her, but she is a very damaged person, and does not tell the truth. I would not waste my money on "Call Me Anna". Examples of lying--she asserted under oath that Michael Tell could not possibly be the father of Sean, and later after marriage to third husband Astin, she spent years claiming that he was the biological father. The DNA was publicly disclosed to show that Michael Tell was in fact the bio-dad, something that her son had to spend his whole life not knowing. She claims that the managers raped her, both the man and the woman, but then claims emotional damage from them dying before any reconcilliation. She is a badly damaged human.
remember r71 she was out of her mind (literally) at that time.
She did a movie with Jason London in the early 90's, they did not get along. ...at one point she flew into a rage and beat the shit out of him, he wanted to press charges, but was talked out of it by his manager at the time.
r73 I don't think a 5 foot 1 inch lady could beat the Shit out of a strapping young man!!!!
Well, R74, you must not have ever dealt with a crazy woman, 5'1" or otherwise. Remember we are trained since early childhood to never hit a woman even in self-defense.
She went nowhere after her Oscar win in 1962. No one knows who she is anymore. Meanwhile, Angela Lansbury went on to become a household name who is still working today and just won a 5th Tony Award a couple years ago.
She's moved comfortably into character roles and will probably be able to work for as long as she wants to.
You know, OP, this may never occurred to you, but one can be bipolar AND high.
But why assume she was high, when she's a diagnosed bipolar? People do the same thing with Kristy McNichol, still insisting her problem was really drugs. I guess they think it makes more scandalous gossip, so they stick with it despite all evidence to the contrary.
OP, butt-wipe, give Patty a break, she had a rough life, asshole.
not high just out of her mind at that time.
"You... Mom.... happy birthday"
I love that line: "The best words I...". I had it as my Facebook "favorite quote" once. And I swear if I ever win an award, I'm going to imitate that speech down to the last eye blink.
She speaks two languages: English and Crazy Bitch.