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Sex and the City

Following up on the TV shows that don't hold well thread -- Sex and the City makes me wanna puke when it's on now. Was NY ever that vapid? Who cast these people? The only decent actress is Cynthia Nixon. Kristen Davis is almost embarrassing and each of the characters is beyond unlikeable. SJP parading about in those horrific outfits is almost...abuse. SHIVER!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 448November 29, 2019 10:59 AM

It was the precursor for reality tv...

by Anonymousreply 1September 16, 2012 2:08 PM

It was a terrible program that just happened to hit the zeitgeist at the perfect time: pre-recession women who had money to burn, wanted to have lots of sex, and cared about nothing but fashion. Funny how quickly it seems not just dated, but poorly acted, written, and directed.

Of course, any program that stars SJP as a beauty was always suspect in my eyes anyway.

by Anonymousreply 2September 16, 2012 2:15 PM

What I learned from the show, among other things: Manhattan high rollers will date women who are

1. Looking rode hard and put up wet, dressing like second-tier Vegas hookers, and, yet, have the emotional life of a 16-year old girl who journals about her "ideal boy", or

2. Control freaks with the look of a stern enema nurse, or

3. Victorian daddy's little girl prudes who are even grossed out by the idea of giving a guy a blowjob.

They will actively seeking women like these instead of models, heiresses, actresses, etc.

by Anonymousreply 3September 16, 2012 2:21 PM

You don't go to NAPA, YOU TAKE A NAP-A!

by Anonymousreply 4September 16, 2012 2:32 PM

The dialogue is ridiculous now that I see them in reruns.

by Anonymousreply 5September 16, 2012 2:35 PM

I think Sex and the City was one of the greatest shows of the lat 90s early 2000s.

The dialogue between the characters was perfect for that time, beacuse back then yes , that's what women lived for.. cock and fashion.

by Anonymousreply 6September 16, 2012 2:51 PM

surely you're joking r6.

It was horrible. It does seem like it was written for and about gay men, but then the characters were switched to women instead.

by Anonymousreply 7September 16, 2012 3:05 PM

I liked the first three seasons when it was actually a study of adults dating and finding identity in a big city.

Then it became about clothes, shoes, sex, and food fetishism. The hyper focus on SJP (versus the original ensemble cast) was especially grating.

by Anonymousreply 8September 16, 2012 3:14 PM

They only had two women writers on staff. The rest were all gay men.

by Anonymousreply 9September 16, 2012 3:22 PM

I still like it, in small doses.

by Anonymousreply 10September 16, 2012 11:00 PM

R8 nails it.

by Anonymousreply 11September 16, 2012 11:01 PM

I loved it when it was on and think it still holds up amazingly well. SJP gets way too much flack on this board. She is beautiful and looked AMAZING in those outfits. The two-part series finale is perfect.

How many of you live in Manhattan (or at least lived in Manhattan during the run of the show)? I thought so.

by Anonymousreply 12September 16, 2012 11:08 PM

Parts of the show are ok but it's still impossible to buy the premise that someone who looks like SJP would have her pick of rich, gorgeous, successful, talented men in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 13September 16, 2012 11:08 PM

"The dialogue between the characters was perfect for that time, beacuse back then yes, that's what women lived for.. cock and fashion."

Horse feathers!

by Anonymousreply 14September 16, 2012 11:08 PM

[quote]3. Victorian daddy's little girl prudes who are even grossed out by the idea of giving a guy a blowjob.

Didn't Charlotte admit to rimming or fingering her man's asshole at one point?

by Anonymousreply 15September 16, 2012 11:08 PM

I agree, it's aged horribly, and during the original run, I really only enjoyed the first 3.5 seasons. But, seriously, why the anger? It's a fucking fictional sitcom, not a documentary on the actual lives of NYC women in the 1990s.

by Anonymousreply 16September 16, 2012 11:10 PM

R16, Ms. R12 would disagree.

by Anonymousreply 17September 16, 2012 11:12 PM

"The Russian" story arc was especially grating. Carrie at her worst.

When she's explaining to her friends about Aleksandre writing her a song, and she's explaining that it means something like "the woman who's eyes that sparkle" her tone and inflections are just kill-worthy. Sort of like when she explained to Berger that his novel character would not be walking around NYC in a "scruuuuunchIE"!!

by Anonymousreply 18September 16, 2012 11:15 PM

Oddly, my partner and I watch it more now than when it was on its original run. I guess because it is on almost non-stop. It's a fun guilty pleasure.

by Anonymousreply 19September 17, 2012 12:02 AM

I still love watching it because I adore Chris Noth. The characters were light and the relationship between Carrie and Big was fun to watch, especially when they meet in the last episode in Paris. I remember it was on Sunday nights and I can tell you it was a lot more relaxing watching that than the Sopranos before startng the work week.

by Anonymousreply 20September 17, 2012 12:11 AM

For it's time, it was a great show. It was the first show that showed relationships between women that didn't revolve around competing for a man. Carrie probably had the fewest boyfriends or liasons than any of the other three, so I don't understand why people are posting that she was constantly with different men. BTW, it doesn't matter what a woman's face looks like, a straight man will fuck ANYONE with a great body like SJP has.

The women were all different individuals, and while SJP became the main star, they were an ensemble that worked well together. SJP gets a bad rap but she was the one who pulled the plug on the show in the first place in 2003. If it had stopped there, it would have been perfect. The subsequent movies have resulted in backlash against the original show. (i did like the first one though) The blame for that is our dear gay friend, Michael Patrick King who I will never forgive for creating a character like Stanford Blatch. Set gays back a decade with that one.

by Anonymousreply 21September 17, 2012 12:18 AM

I do find the show entertaining, but no, it has not aged well. And I despise both Carrie and Miranda. What a couple of cunts those two were.

by Anonymousreply 22September 17, 2012 12:25 AM

In the real world, Carrie would not be so desirable. Not to mention her personality was grating and she was superficial and incredibly juvenile, qualities str8 men do not find desirable in a woman.

Her apartment was so depressing, it reminded me of a SRO hotel room. Her place was basically just a crash pad, a place to fuck and sleep. There was no warmth and she didn't take any pride in her place, it came across as a stop over until some rich man landed her in a huge CPW pre-war or a Soho loft.

Most of today's single women do build lives for themselves, they get an apartment or even buy a co-op, they don't live their lives in a holding pattern waiting for a man to make their life better.

I've worked in fashion for over 20 years, most women who are obsessed with clothing and shoes don't have such exciting sex lives as the characters on SATC. I work with many women who are deeply depressed and can't seem to handle long term relationships because their lives are wrapped up obsessing about in their looks.

Most of them are super neurotic and spend more time on their wardrobes than on developing any type of long term relationships or even real friendships.

I agree with the person who said the scripts were basically about gay men, the story lines were not from a woman's point of view. The scripts were by gay men and it showed.

by Anonymousreply 23September 17, 2012 12:26 AM

r23 Your post may be accurate but this wasn't a reality show, it was fictional. Therefore, their lives had to be somewhat interesting or exciting to keep an audience interested. Carrie's personality would initally attract a man who wanted to sleep with her. Not for long term relationships but ironically enough, she had the two longest relationships on the show.

by Anonymousreply 24September 17, 2012 12:35 AM

I have the show's theme song as my ringtone. I LOVE xylophones -- they're so zippy!

I let almost the whole song play before I answer, just so everyone in the restaurant knows that I'm a groovy chick.

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by Anonymousreply 25September 17, 2012 12:47 AM

"BTW, it doesn't matter what a woman's face looks like, a straight man will fuck ANYONE with a great body like SJP has. "

The average str8 man would never find SJP's body "great'. Many would find her way too skinny and close to anorexic, as is her body in real life!

Here's just some of the comments from some male relatives: "She's a bag of bones." "That chick needs to eat some food on regular basis". "Does she have an ass, I haven't seen it yet."

The context of this conversation was during a discussion of the show with some of my female relatives during one of our yearly Holiday get-togethers, this was during the time SATC was still on HBO.

Their husbands overheard the conversation and chimed in. The consensus was that Kim Cattrell was the sexiest and most attractive and that Ms. Davis was the cutest but lacked outright sex appeal.

SJP was the least appealing to the guys, "especially her annoying self absorbed childish personality."

by Anonymousreply 26September 17, 2012 12:47 AM

I'm the Carrie! Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

by Anonymousreply 27September 17, 2012 1:00 AM

My least fave episode is where Carrie bullied Charlotte into lending her money to make a down payment to buy her condo after she broke up with Aidan. I'd have let that bitch be homeless.

by Anonymousreply 28September 17, 2012 1:09 AM

The whole Russian thing was a bore.

I agree that they show became too Carriecentric when SJP became an Executive Producer.

It worked better as the Supremes, not Carrie and the Supremes.

I thought the whole Paris ending was beyond ridiculous. It seemed to serve no purpose other than to allow SJP to stay at the Plaze Athenee on HBO's dime.

Besides, the show was about NYC, not Paris. What a squandered opportunity.

I still liked the show and found it entertaining. Although, the constant puns tried my patience.

by Anonymousreply 29September 17, 2012 1:11 AM

I never got into it. I didn't have HBO at the time and wasn't into downloading tv episodes yet. Later I tried to get into it and was advised to skip the first (and second?) season, but it still didn't catch on with me. I've never seen the critically-panned movies.

by Anonymousreply 30September 17, 2012 1:16 AM

She looked like a complete ass in Paris, especially when she stepped out of the limo in that ridiculous getup, with the hat that looked like ass. A lot of the shit SJP thought was stylish and whimsical just looked stupid. I LOVED it when Berger made the snarky comment about the hat she wore in the scrunchie episode.

by Anonymousreply 31September 17, 2012 1:17 AM

[quote]It does seem like it was written for and about gay men, but then the characters were switched to women instead.

The producers copied the successful "Golden Girls" formula.

by Anonymousreply 32September 17, 2012 1:27 AM

Really the worst thing about it was that we were supposed to love Carrie and even see her as a role model.

by Anonymousreply 33September 17, 2012 1:38 AM

[quote] I LOVED it when Berger made the snarky comment about the hat she wore in the scrunchie episode.

To me, that was a very telling episode. It was written so that we are supposed to be sympathetic to Carrie, but I don't think most people were.

The tea-cup hat was RIDICULOUS! And her churlish response "it's fabulous" made her seem like a real dick. And totally clueless.

It was one of the clues that the writers were a becoming a bit clueless, too.

by Anonymousreply 34September 17, 2012 1:46 AM

I started losing sympathy for Carrie when she met the really cute guy who was quite normal, but she was so crazy and jaded that something HAD to be wrong with him, and she went through his apartment going through his things like a psychocunt until he caught her. It was then I realized that Carrie created her own chaos. Her and Miranda.

by Anonymousreply 35September 17, 2012 2:02 AM

I like Samantha & Miranda was tolerable.

by Anonymousreply 36September 17, 2012 2:08 AM

I generally enjoyed it, and can still tolerate it. But, another vote for not aging that well. In reruns, it seems much more wildly inconsistent between great/funny episodes and annoying/bad episodes. Also agree that it was better in the early seasons, but that's true for many shows.

by Anonymousreply 37September 17, 2012 2:54 AM

R35, she WAS supposed to be crazy and jaded at that point in the episode. Not relatable. If she became a 'role model' - and I seriously don't think that was ever intended - it was in trying to deal with what living and dating in NYC had done to her personality.

I don't see the criticism that Carrie was supposed to be Mother Theresa. The show really depicts her in a bad light at times, and it's definitely deliberate. If her closest friends call her on her bullshit, why are we supposed to think Carrie's some kind of superhero? Of all the things to say about the show that are valid - like it became materialistic and shallow - why act like it's annoying that Carrie was written as perfect?

by Anonymousreply 38September 17, 2012 12:52 PM

Carrie was actually quite cute when the show first started when she had her long curly blonde hair. Miranda looked like an ill-tempered dyke. As the show went on Miranda's look got softened and Carrie's got harsher due to too much weight loss and working out. Both SJP and Madonna need to lay off and learn that extra weight flatters older women. The two who consistently looked pretty much the same were Samantha and Charlotte. I was actually shocked to see Kristen Davis and Cynthia Nixon, in the movies, were quite chunky below the waist. They did a pretty good job of hiding it in the show.

by Anonymousreply 39September 17, 2012 4:18 PM

Did we ever know what a "Cosmopolitan" was before SATC?

by Anonymousreply 40September 17, 2012 4:32 PM

I loved the show in its original run.

by Anonymousreply 41September 17, 2012 4:33 PM

Anyone who has ever seen Patricia Field would know why Carrie looked so bad sometimes.

The worst was the tiny, silver lame panties she wore in public with high heels.

by Anonymousreply 42September 17, 2012 6:15 PM

Wasn't that a fashion show or something R42? I remember some hideous outfit with either a corset or bra over her blouse and another time knee socks which no one over age 10 should wear.

by Anonymousreply 43September 17, 2012 6:21 PM

SJP looks like she has sandpaper pussy.

by Anonymousreply 44September 17, 2012 6:28 PM

R42: Yes, she wore something similar that "she likey" for a fashion show, but I was thinking about silver lame panties with heels she wore to walk on the street.

by Anonymousreply 45September 17, 2012 6:32 PM

Classy!

(NOTE: don't wear his if you have a HUGE vageene)

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by Anonymousreply 46September 17, 2012 6:35 PM

She wore panties on the street and no one blinked an eye, which they would in real life? I'll have to rewatch for that little gem.

by Anonymousreply 47September 17, 2012 6:37 PM

I found it odd that they basically never dealt with the siblings or parents of any of the women. Miranda's mom was killed offscreen and her sister had one line in that ep. Beyond that, you never even find out if some of them even HAVE parents living.

by Anonymousreply 48September 17, 2012 6:39 PM

I can't help but think this show would have been better with Jamie Gertz instead of SJP.

by Anonymousreply 49September 17, 2012 6:40 PM

I thought the show made a point that, like women, men look for relationships that are doomed from the start (because they suffer from mommy issues or had a previous traumatic girlfriend experience?). And that's why all these men were drawn to Woody Allen in a tutu aka Carrie.

The show was Absolutely Fabulous Light. You would hate those characters in real life but on TV they were worship worthy for being such cunts claiming the empowered women label for themselves while being hysterical fuck ups.

by Anonymousreply 50September 17, 2012 6:42 PM

YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE ME!

YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE ME!

YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE ME!

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by Anonymousreply 51September 17, 2012 6:44 PM

[quote]I found it odd that they basically never dealt with the siblings or parents of any of the women. Miranda's mom was killed offscreen and her sister had one line in that ep. Beyond that, you never even find out if some of them even HAVE parents living.

I think I read somewhere that they purposely kept parents/siblings/family members off screen because they wanted to drive home the point that the four women were each other's family and that was the bond they had formed over the years.

by Anonymousreply 52September 17, 2012 6:48 PM

I thought that was weird too R48. What, Carrie's mom and dad never popped up in NY for a visit? She never went home for holidays? Did Charlotte have any family when she got married? It was really strange imo.

by Anonymousreply 53September 17, 2012 6:49 PM

I know the show is fiction. Still, part of SATC's marketing was based upon how "groundbreaking" the frank sexual dialog among the characters is. After watching a few episodes, I rolled my eyes at that marketing ploy.

Because, out here in the real world, a full decade before "SATC", for eight years, I tended bar in a rough, tough, hard to bluff place where, when I had a barful of women, the conversations about sex could make a sailor blush and/or make you ears turn blue and fall off. Mostly it was, when it wasn't just plain vulgar,funnier then anything I ever heard any character say on "SATC."

I still will watch "SATC even thoguh I don't care for any of the characters except one- I love, love, love seeing Manhattan.

by Anonymousreply 54September 17, 2012 6:49 PM

I find it hard to believe those 4 women would have remained that good of friends. They were all so selfish, especially Carrie.

Carrie was very attractive in the 2nd season with the long blond hair. But the last few seasons she was looking rough and it was hard to buy that all those hot men would want her.

by Anonymousreply 55September 18, 2012 1:18 PM

Sex and the City has aged well. That's why it can release movies and make a huge amount of cash.

by Anonymousreply 56June 27, 2014 6:03 PM

Kristin Davis was gorgeous at the time.

by Anonymousreply 57June 27, 2014 6:31 PM

We knew what the US media really thought of women when they introduced The View and Sex in the City in the late 90s.

And nothing much has changed.

by Anonymousreply 58June 29, 2014 6:28 PM

[quote]That's why it can release movies and make a huge amount of cash

What year are you posting from, dear?

by Anonymousreply 59June 29, 2014 6:41 PM

When Berger broke up with Carria via post-it note, were we supposed to be shocked and feel bad for Carrie? Because I and all my friends laughed and applauded. By that time Carrie had become beyond tedious. I hated the way she treated Aiden and thought it rang false that none of her friends called her on her bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 60June 29, 2014 6:55 PM

Carrie would lose her shit for any tiny reason, like when she threw a big mac across the kitchen because big told her she couldn't come to paris. Poor big how would anyone put up with someone like carrie?

by Anonymousreply 61June 29, 2014 7:37 PM

It is now a pre-recession period piece.

by Anonymousreply 62June 29, 2014 7:57 PM

I still love this show. It was very well cast and very well written, and could be very funny. I love all four characters. And I find it believable that SJP as Carrie would attract the men she attracted. I think she's pretty, cute and charming.

by Anonymousreply 63September 27, 2014 4:41 AM

Love all the repeats. Every now and then I catch one that I've never seen before.

by Anonymousreply 64September 27, 2014 4:44 AM

Cynthia Nixon was just playing her real self, what she would have been if she'd never been an actress.

I know, because I was in grade school with her. Her only other good work was The Manhattan Project.

by Anonymousreply 65September 27, 2014 4:54 AM

Which of the girls are you?

I like to think I'm a Carrie but, after a few Cosmos, I act more like a Samantha!

by Anonymousreply 66September 27, 2014 4:58 AM

I would like to think I'm a Charlotte.

by Anonymousreply 67September 27, 2014 5:02 AM

I LOVED it when it aired, but in repeat, it is obvious the show is shockingly out-dated unwatchable dreck.

by Anonymousreply 68September 27, 2014 5:04 AM

Straight guys would consider these girls nothing but cumdumpsters.

by Anonymousreply 69September 27, 2014 5:12 AM

Go to the business district of any Midwestern city at lunchtime to see the show's most enduring legacy: the Red-Rover style line of secretaries walking four or five abreast down the sidewalk, teetering on their stiletto heels in their TJ Maxx designer finery, laughing and tossing their hair as they imagine it's their face on the side of that passing bus while the theme song plays in their heads on a loop.

by Anonymousreply 70September 27, 2014 5:24 AM

Best tv show evah!

by Anonymousreply 71September 27, 2014 5:26 AM

I never saw the original run - only some repeats. So, I'm not sure if it suffered being toned down for syndication. I'm also not completely sure what seasons the shows I watched were from.

It was nice seeing adult women being close and non-competitive with one another. Some of the lines were quite funny.

Carrie was super skinny but she did have a nice body. Nice tits and legs.

Some of the outfits she wore bordered on sheer lunacy.

One that stood out was a skirt/shorts(?) that had a frilly, layered backside like a little girls panties. That she was wearing on the street. With heels. Jesus.

But man she was obnoxious.

No guy - hot or not - would put up with that kind of neurotic, self-absorbed behavior. Unless he was mentally unhealthy himself.

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by Anonymousreply 72September 27, 2014 5:47 AM

R72 - Carrie got skinnier each season.

by Anonymousreply 73September 27, 2014 5:57 AM

Sometimes I thought Carrie was pretty and sometimes not.

Mr. Big sure looked fine in a suit.

by Anonymousreply 74September 27, 2014 6:01 AM

Except for the principal boyfriends of Big, Aidan, Burger, Steve, Harry and Richard, I thought the actors who played the women's dates were all pretty odd looking. To me, it was always strange casting.

by Anonymousreply 75September 27, 2014 6:34 AM

Not that one, honey. It'll burn your clit off.

by Anonymousreply 76September 27, 2014 7:13 AM

I loved it in its original run, but not so much in reruns. However, recently I've been watching some episodes and I have to agree, it was good up until 3.5 seasons. What killed it for me was Carrie. She became so self absorbed. She didn't give a shit about being there for her friends, it was all about her and the nonstop musing about Big. The return of Aiden is when I really started to hate her. She begged him to get back together and then treated him like shit before dumping him in drama queen fashion. All for a guy who treated her like a groupie. Never got that relationship or its popularity with fans.

Frankly, none of the characters we really likeable. I don't see them being friends without Carrie holding them together. Miranda and Charlotte would have nothing in common. Even Charlotte being friends with Carrie was not believable. Charlotte was like a trust fund baby, minus ever seeing her parents, she would most ikely hang with the waspy crowd like Trey's social circle.

Finally Carrie's fashion was so ridiculous in retrospect. I don't know if it's because NYC has become more casual over the years, but it's so OTT. I saw an episode the other day, The Big Time, that convinced me that Rayon from Dallas Buyers Club was modeled on Carrie's outfit in that episode.

by Anonymousreply 77September 27, 2014 7:29 AM

It was mediocre in first run and is unwatchable now.

by Anonymousreply 78September 27, 2014 7:29 AM

I absolutely fucking hate this show, words cant describe my hatred for satc. I have no idea how anyone can like it.

by Anonymousreply 79September 27, 2014 7:38 AM

Couldn't agree more with those that loved it during its run, but now hate it. It grates on my every nerve. For the record, I feel the same way about Seinfield. I loved it during its run and now can't even watch it. Too smug.

by Anonymousreply 80September 27, 2014 8:10 AM

r80 never was a Seinfeld fan either. I want to die when they do their "schtick".

by Anonymousreply 81September 27, 2014 8:13 AM

The show becomes utterly unwatchable with SJP becoming an exec producer (the season when Aidan comes back). There's one great episode in that season (when Samantha is a lesbian, and everyone is having great sex except Miranda, who is obsessed with chocolate cake), and then the air just sucks right out of the show when Aidan comes up, and the show becomes Carrie-centric (right as she becomes utterly unlikeable).

by Anonymousreply 82September 27, 2014 8:34 AM

I can tolerate it if I pretend it's a British series where the lead characters are supposed to be awful, like David Brent or Edina Monsoon. They do resemble most of the NYC bitches I endured in the late 90s/early 00s.

by Anonymousreply 83September 27, 2014 8:49 AM

I worshipped this show when it was on, even though I hated Carrie and found much of the show ridiculous, but the movies kind of ruined the characters for me so I don't and haven't rewatched it even though it's always on in reruns and I own all the episodes on DVD.

I do fantasize though about an alternative universe 2014 update of Sex and the City existing where Carrie has to cope with the collapse of the newspaper/ media /publishing industry and Miranda has to cope with all the downsizing in big law.

by Anonymousreply 84September 27, 2014 11:55 AM

What was the deal with their families? The only one who seemed to have a parent mentioned was Miranda. Were they raised in orphanages? Even when they got married no one showed up to give the bride away.

by Anonymousreply 85September 27, 2014 2:09 PM

Carrie was a self-centered, selfish, whiny little bitch.

Miranda was a bossy, hardened control freak.

Charlotte was a social climbing, sex phobic prude desperate to land a rich husband so she could play upper class housewife and push a limo sized stroller down the sidewalk and never work again.

The only character I really liked was Samantha, who was a slut, but unapologetic about it. She embraced her sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 86September 27, 2014 2:19 PM

R18 you read my mind on the Berger/scruuuuuunche scene. I remember thinking when I watched it for the first time, "I can't believe I ever thought Carrie was charming. I hope Berger and Carrie split because he ends up physically abusing her."

by Anonymousreply 87September 27, 2014 2:28 PM

I always thought the same thing, R75. I called it "Mary Tyler Moore Syndrome," because Mary's boyfriends on MTMS were always too old and too goofy looking to be believable.

The Golden Girls sometimes had the same problem. I think it's just a product of our double standard with actors. The women and gay men have to look as fabulous as possible while the straight men can be doofy and schlubby and no one bats an eye.

by Anonymousreply 88September 27, 2014 2:31 PM

Can you remember (or believe) that during the show`s run (and a little after it) Sarah Jessica Parker was considered world`s no``1 style icon ? The mere initials SJP were synonymous with a lofty style ideal.

by Anonymousreply 89September 27, 2014 2:37 PM

Samantha had the best lines.

"Honey! They don't call it a JOB for nothing!" (Said to a smoking hot, young Bobby Cannavale)

by Anonymousreply 90September 27, 2014 4:10 PM

Sex and the City is a demonstration of everything that is wrong with modern urban dwellers. I can't tell you how many idiotic suburban teenage girls/young women I've met who want to move to NYC to be just like Carrie. And I am from Chicago, btw. It is sad, really. The same thing cannot be said for Absolutely Fabulous and London which makes sense---AF is more overtly satirical and funny. It's also a much better show. Especially after the economic crisis began, Sex and the City does not hold up.

by Anonymousreply 91September 27, 2014 4:16 PM

Someone challenged SATC critics if they lived in NYC - I do. What set me off was Carrie's money situation. She was a writer. Even with a rent controlled apartment, she couldn't afford the shoes, let alone the shoes, the clothes, the cocktails, the partying. Later in the series they gave her a successful book which I guess was supposed to cover the lifestyle situation, but before that it was completely unbelievable. Oh, and she only traveled by taxi. All the other women were covered - Samantha was in p.r., very successful, and that's an industry that gets gift bags, and lots of free stuff because their clients are trend-setters - IF you're big in p.r., because p.r. doesn't pay well unless you've made a real name. Miranda's lifestyle made sense - lawyer in decent one bedroom apartment. Charlotte obviously came from money and had a trust fund. Carrie would have been on the street long long long before her apartment converted. There was the episode about how she spent $40,000 on shoes alone. Yes, that's financial recklessness, but she didn't have the $40,000 to waste in the first place. She was actually right about the scrunchie, but it's such a stupid point, I don't know why she kept clubbing Berger over the head with it.

Also, there's a ton of divorce among the Manhattan "elite" (people with lots of money) and there is no way in hell Charlotte would have ended up with Trey's family apartment. Yes, he gave it to her, which was unbelievable in itself. The plot line had her wanting a shark for a divorce attorney when it didn't matter. They had no kids. Weren't married all that long. Him being impotent and having a freaky relationship with his mother are nonfactors in the financial settlement department. She's lucky she got to keep the ring.

by Anonymousreply 92September 27, 2014 4:27 PM

Charlotte's brother popped up in an early episode (Samantha fucked him).

Carrie was human. Sometimes we liked her and sometimes we hated her. She did mean things and she treated people badly. I thought it was brave of Parker and the writers to sometimes present her in a negative light.

That actually made me like her even more.

Over the course of the series Miranda's journey was the one I think a lot of people can relate to. Cold and shut off then she meets a man who opens her eyes to possibilities.

Cattrall is by far the best actress of the bunch which is why her work holds up the best.

by Anonymousreply 93September 27, 2014 4:51 PM

Kim is the best actress. Kristin was the most attractive.

by Anonymousreply 94September 27, 2014 9:47 PM

R61 Actually in that scene in which Carrie and Big argue about his sudden announcement that he's moving to Paris, he says she can come as long as she is moving for herself not for him. That set her over the edge and I didn't blame her -- it was a douche move by Big.

by Anonymousreply 95September 27, 2014 10:10 PM

r92,

That was the biggest problem with the show for me too as someone who was studying/working in journalism during the show's run.

I mean at the beginning of the show Carrie wasn't even a columnist in the New York Times but at some crappy dimestore rag and we're supposed to believe she can afford all these designer clothes and accessories?

by Anonymousreply 96September 27, 2014 10:33 PM

Exactly why I will never understand why fans liked Big. Setting aside the fact that by the end Carrie was such a bitch that they deserved each other. He was just such an asshole. She was always begging for his love and he played her like a fiddle. He even married someone else and in the dreadful movie dumped her at the altar. She just get comng back for more humilation.

I loved Aiden, but he was too nice for Carrie. In the end Berger was best guy on the show as far Carrie goes. He didn't take crap, but also wasn't as "Big" of a douche. Of course, like I said, Carrie was horrible the last few seasons.

As far as attractiveness. She was ok at the beginning and had a great body. I think confidence can attract men; she walked around town like she owned the place, men find that appealing. In general, I wasn't sure any of them would be pulling that many guys on a regular basis in NYC, even Samantha. She was 50 and still banging tons of gorgeous guys in their 20s and 30s.

by Anonymousreply 97September 27, 2014 10:36 PM

I remember a writer discussing Uma Thurman's looks and saying that at certain angles her beauty disappears.

I felt that way about SJP. There were a few scenes where she did look beautiful, I remember one in particular was where she stepped out of the Central Park buggy at the hospital where Miranda was giving birth. It was when Big called out to her and she turned around to look at him.

by Anonymousreply 98September 27, 2014 10:51 PM

SJP was very attractive in a cute, perky way back in the early 90s, as in LA Story. Her looks declined on SATC.

I never found Uma all that attractive. In fact, I thought Jenanne was far more attractive in The Truth About Cats and Dogs.

by Anonymousreply 99September 27, 2014 10:54 PM

I never expect realism when watching television, either comedy or drama. Detectives get shot at all the time and survive while they only need one bullet to take down someone. Men are married to women who would obviously be beyond them in real life. No one ever makes the amount of money that a real "whatever" would in real life. There is no professional that is portrayed realistically on television.

So I don't expect any of that in television. And I certainly don't expect to live my life in a way that reflects what television thinks. (So if you're a woman in the late 90's trying to live like Carrie then you're an idiot.)

I just want the quality of writing to be good and, for the most part, SATC survives at all because of that. I want the characters to be interesting and, for the most part, SATC survives because the characters can be interesting in spite of the major faults that the characters have.

And women of all kinds treat the Aidens of the world like that all the time. Just as the Bergers treat the Carries of the world like that. (Berger was the biggest whiner that Carrie dated. If you looked at him funny he would whine about it.)

Most successful series are dated. But if the qualities of writing and characterization are interesting then they survive, no matter how dated they are. In that way, SATC is about 7.5 on a scale of 10.

by Anonymousreply 100September 27, 2014 11:05 PM

[quote](Berger was the biggest whiner that Carrie dated. If you looked at him funny he would whine about it.)

I hated the Berger character mostly because I loathe Ron Livingston with the heat of ten thousand suns.

by Anonymousreply 101September 27, 2014 11:08 PM

SATC became such a dreadful cult when it aired, thanks to its popularity amongst fraus. That probably took the show runners unawares, I assume the thing was made with a niche, gay / fashion crowd in mind.

The characters were barely watchable. They all seemed mentally ill or personality disordered to me, and not in a fascinating, complex way. They were by turn shrill, crass, crude, venal, fatuous and whiny.

Luckily the subsequent films, which should never have been financed, made laughing stocks of all involved.

'Lovely' Eau de Toilette by Sarah Jessica Parker, the perfect gift for that special cup cake loving frau in YOUR life.

by Anonymousreply 102September 27, 2014 11:37 PM

What made the program insufferable was that SJP began to believe the hype about herself.

by Anonymousreply 103September 28, 2014 1:06 AM

[quote]I assume the thing was made with a niche, gay / fashion crowd in mind.

Because targeting a small minority, one which was more likely to be out partying when SATC first ran, is a sure-fire way to success!

by Anonymousreply 104September 28, 2014 1:22 AM

The Russian storyline was so bad it was good.

I've never found SITC in the least bit funny and the characters are horribly self-absorbed, yet I still don't mind watching the occasional episode. I guess I like the soapy element and seeing Carrie's sometimes ridiculous outfits which were At at time - I suppose - meant to be the height of fashion.

At least it is watchable. Friends, on the other hand, has no redeeming features. I have no understanding of what people saw/see in it.

by Anonymousreply 105September 28, 2014 1:33 AM

SJP attends all the social functions here in Manhattan, usually the Fashion Week nonsense. She is almost as comical as Anna Wintour.

by Anonymousreply 106September 28, 2014 1:37 AM

r103, completely true.

by Anonymousreply 107September 28, 2014 1:40 AM

Re: The Lifestyle expenses -- shoes, cocktails, cabs, etc.

Meagan Daum wrote a book about living it up in NYC at the same time as SITC. To finance it all, she ran up her credit card and went bankrupt.

by Anonymousreply 108September 28, 2014 1:50 AM

What is SITC?

by Anonymousreply 109September 28, 2014 2:39 AM

I loved the show... I still love the friendship between the four. I thought Carrie was insufferable by the end of the series... a shallow, vain, neurotic mess.

Like all shows it suffered when the original creative team moved on to other things and the incoming creative team had to leave their mark on it.

To the point about so many gay men as writers... one of the best scathing reviews of that diabolical second film was that it was gay men playing Barbies.

I'd love to see a third and final movie... written by Tina Fey. She's a funny writer. It's just as an actress she kinda bombs.

by Anonymousreply 110September 28, 2014 3:08 AM

I'm watching the episode where Carrie goes to Aidan's country cabin. God, I forgot what a snotty cunt she is. I thought the cabin was cute for what it was, which was a simple getaway place, nothing fancy but Carrie's expression was sneering. I'm sure it didn't measure up to the Hamptons.

That was one of the real disconnects for me. How a girl who grew up middle class at best could get so snobby and she never went to the country even as a child?

by Anonymousreply 111January 23, 2015 5:59 PM

When it started it was a very different show. A good one. The performances were more natural and it was funny. That was the show that won awards and critical praise. As it progressed, it softened into watered-down version of itself, with characters slipping into caricatured versions of themselves. It became a completely different show.

And the movies took everything terrible about the show's final seasons and inflated them.

by Anonymousreply 112January 23, 2015 6:09 PM

I hated when Sarah Jessica would screech. Mice, squirrels,someone tapping her on the shoulder, all made her scream. I like her, but Carrie was annoying as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 113January 23, 2015 6:31 PM

Carrie must have had an extremely tight hoo-ha, because I don't see why a man would stick around her for more than a week.

by Anonymousreply 114January 23, 2015 6:41 PM

Carrie's histrionics made her unbearable, and it made her relationships unbelievable as well. She heaves her Big Mac and fries at Big's kitchen cupboards only seconds after showing up at his door all smiles in a french outfit. While Aiden is taking a shower she sees an engagement ring in his nightstand and immediately throws up. She goes to the Hamptons and sees Big on the beach with another woman and immediately vomits into the ocean. She acted like a junior high school girl. No successful man would put up with such a hysterical woman.

But what made the show unwatchable for me was Stanford Blatch. Weak, whiney, insecure, sissified and pathetic, his character was a constant FUCK YOU to every gay viewer.

by Anonymousreply 115January 23, 2015 8:33 PM

I still love it.

by Anonymousreply 116January 23, 2015 8:35 PM

"While Aiden is taking a shower she sees an engagement ring in his nightstand and immediately throws up. She goes to the Hamptons and sees Big on the beach with another woman and immediately vomits into the ocean."

All that throwing up was because she was an anorexic.

by Anonymousreply 117January 23, 2015 8:40 PM

Why did Carrie expect her friends to bail her out financially?

by Anonymousreply 118January 23, 2015 9:21 PM

Anyone remember the columns the show was based on, written by Candace Bushnell in the NY Observer?

She got my goat too: she spent all her time with obnoxious rich people, making fun of them, talking about how shallow they were.

I always finished the column thinking "these people are assholes and you clearly can't stand them. Why do you continue to hang out with them?

by Anonymousreply 119January 23, 2015 9:50 PM

I remember those columns R119, especially how horribly written they were.

by Anonymousreply 120January 23, 2015 10:38 PM

Does anyone remember that in the first season, or at least the first episodes of the first season, whilst in the middle of pretty much anything, Carrie would stop, look straight at the fourth wall and talk directly to the camera.

I don't know why they threw that out the window.

And I agree with R56 that there was a fifth character, withdrawn in the background but omnipresent in every shot: Manhattan. And Manhattan went through quite an ordeal in 2001.

I remember one of the episodes ending with a big "I heart New York" (I think it was the first episode of the 4th season) but other than that no recollection whatsoever that the show touched on that matter. I have not seen all the episodes so this POV may be unfair but I feel like the producers/writers decided to go on as if nothing happened.

I also feel that all the fluffiness, carelessness, self-absorption and futility exhibited by all the characters on the show in the first three seasons did not resonate very well with the new sense of gravity brought about by the events and the writers had problem adjusting to that.

by Anonymousreply 121January 24, 2015 1:28 AM

"In general, I wasn't sure any of them would be pulling that many guys on a regular basis in NYC, even Samantha. She was 50 and still banging tons of gorgeous guys in their 20s and 30s."

Why not?

A straight friend of mine just moved to New York to "model." He probably fantasizes that he'll find N adventurous older broad like Samantha, but in reality he'll wind up with someone like Bob Colacello.

Men, both gay and straight, have sex with people out of their league all of the time, especially if the sex is easy and care-free.

by Anonymousreply 122January 24, 2015 1:58 AM

[quote]I remember one of the episodes ending with a big "I heart New York" (I think it was the first episode of the 4th season) but other than that no recollection whatsoever that the show touched on that matter. I have not seen all the episodes so this POV may be unfair but I feel like the producers/writers decided to go on as if nothing happened.

They did. And they removed the Twin Towers from the opening segment, too. I thought that was a self-important move.

I really disliked the actor who played Steve. Awful voice, and the character was way out of his element with that group of women. Bad casting and writing, I think.

When Carrie saw Berger in the Hamptons and was describing her past romantic history, she described her relationship with Aidan as so hurtful and said that they broke up once and got back together, only to hurt each other all over again. WTF? Aidan never one time hurt her. That writing continuity lapse always bothered me.

by Anonymousreply 123January 24, 2015 2:57 AM

R123, I thought Steve was supposed to have autism or aspergers based on his speech/mannerisms. The way he talked and communicated seemed off.

by Anonymousreply 124January 24, 2015 3:12 AM

R123

Only "hurting" Carrie was subjected to by Aidan was pretty much of her own making.

Remember it was Carrie who cheated on Aidan him with Big which caused their first breakup. Carrie then runs Aidan to ground to take up with him again but is "hurt" to find he really doesn't trust her and that she still has feelings/is seeing Mr. Big. Aidan buying Carrie's apartment when it went co-op as part of the plan for their married life brought more "hurt" but then again it was mostly Carrie's doing. The final hurt was finding out Aidan had clearly moved on by marrying and having children.

No, none of it makes sense but SITC was/is aimed for the female demographic. In that world everything is a man's fault.

by Anonymousreply 125January 24, 2015 3:26 AM

Buck would have never DATED Carrie!

by Anonymousreply 126January 24, 2015 3:29 AM

No man NYC guy in his right mind would date Carrie. Sleep with her ok, but a long term relationship with that basket case is another matter. Truth to tell in their own ways each of them were nut jobs.

by Anonymousreply 127January 24, 2015 3:34 AM

Trans In The City

by Anonymousreply 128January 24, 2015 3:37 AM

I loved the looks on Carrie's and Samantha's faces when they saw Miranda's braces for the first time. That episode was so funny.

I loved and still love the show, but I could have lived without the following story lines: Samanta has breast cancer; Trey is impotent; Steve needs attention as a 12-year-old would (playing basketball); Steve's mother has dementia; Carrie moves to Paris. Otherwise, it's very entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 129January 24, 2015 3:40 AM

[quote]Cynthia Nixon was just playing her real self, what she would have been if she'd never been an actress.

I know, because I was in grade school with her. Her only other good work was The Manhattan Project.

I liked Cynthia Nixon the 5 minutes she was in Little Darlings with Tatum O'Neal & Kristy McNichol.

by Anonymousreply 130January 24, 2015 3:42 AM

Cynthia Nixon was fairly good as Mrs. Stephen Haines in the revival of "The Women" a few years ago.

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by Anonymousreply 131January 24, 2015 3:47 AM

I will love the show forever. I still cry when Big & Carrie finally get together in Paris.

by Anonymousreply 132January 24, 2015 3:49 AM

Can anyone tell me what the name of the episode is that has Samantha at a table with two men and another woman and the other woman dives under the table and goes down on one of the men?

by Anonymousreply 133January 24, 2015 4:05 AM

The biggest "WTF?" relationship was with Russian Dancer Guy posing as "artist."

Miranda liked Steve's thick cock. She didn't care about his speech impediments. Plus he was a big puppy dog, obeying her every command, which Miranda loved.

The best part of the final episodes were not the Big/Carrie reunion but Miranda finding Steve's mother (picture Steve, drunk, in a dress) and taking care of her - and the reunion of Smith and Samantha when he comes back from the movie shoot.

For over the top breakup drama, though, nothing beats Carrie's "honeymoon" trip in the first movie. Carrie was positively wet as all her friends fussed over her when she was the one making all the fuss over the wedding dress.

by Anonymousreply 134January 24, 2015 4:11 AM

Among the relatives, we also get to meet Stanford Blach's grand-mother. She's old and Stanford thinks she would be happy to know that he has met a great woman and possibly even marry her. So he introduces Carrie as his fiancée.

Great line here from the grand-mother: "Stanford could you boil some water for the tea darling?" [Stanford leaves the living-room; the grand-mother shuffles up to Carrie and whispers] "If I were you darling, I wouldn't invest too much into this. I love my Stanford, but he's a fruit you know!"

I also love the busted look on Carrie's face.

by Anonymousreply 135January 24, 2015 4:16 AM

R134

That "Russian dude" was played by Mikhail Baryshnikov who has probably forgotten more about art and artists than most.

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by Anonymousreply 136January 24, 2015 4:18 AM

R133, the episode is called "Frenemies", and it's from season 3.

by Anonymousreply 137January 24, 2015 4:18 AM

Gee, R136, thanks for telling me who he was! I didn't know!

His character was a joke. His relationship with Carrie was a joke. Carrie never would have dated someone whose ego was bigger than hers. And their characters had absolutely nothing in common except in the writers' feeble imaginations.

by Anonymousreply 138January 24, 2015 4:22 AM

Thank u r137!

by Anonymousreply 139January 24, 2015 4:24 AM

Oh please!

Aleksandr Petrovsky was everything Carrie went after in a man; older, successful and loaded. He also chased her which made a nice change from her usual MO.

Carrie had and managed to screw up relationships even with men nearer to her own age. There was that baseball player (played by the gorgeous Mark Devine of Maytag commercial fame), along with a host of others.

Was hoping Mr. Big's wife would give Carrie the beat down she clearly needs/deserves, but sadly she only fell down the stairs and busted her teeth.

by Anonymousreply 140January 24, 2015 4:31 AM

Carrie was the worst. It really bugs me that she expected Charlotte to give her her engagement ring so she could buy her apartment. She even got pissed Charlotte didn't offer right away!

by Anonymousreply 141January 24, 2015 4:34 AM

I didn't like the scene when all of the couples had dinner at The Russian's house and they were all offended when he didn't know who Billy Joel was. I would have understood and then congratulated the guy.

by Anonymousreply 142January 24, 2015 4:34 AM

[quote]Was hoping Mr. Big's wife would give Carrie the beat down she clearly needs/deserves, but sadly she only fell down the stairs and busted her teeth.

But Natasha did get a little bit of vengeance when Carrie sat across from her at lunch to apologize. It was a pretty good burn, although Carrie's voiceover right after (as she was walking down the street braless) seemed to indicate that Carrie was over the insult and now felt somehow empowered.

by Anonymousreply 143January 24, 2015 4:39 AM

I was glad they finally had Miranda bond with her baby. For a while there poor little Brady seemed doomed.

by Anonymousreply 144January 24, 2015 4:42 AM

Yes, Natasha got in a good one, but personally wanted her to slap Carrie upside her stupid head. After that episode one pretty much lost interest in SITC. Just couldn't stomach Carrie any longer.

Any normal woman after braking up a man's marriage would steer clear. No, not our Carrie, she needs to hunt down the ex-wife to "explain" and tell her just how sorry she truly is about things. WTF?

Like I said they all were nut jobs.

by Anonymousreply 145January 24, 2015 4:43 AM

They should have let Miranda become an out lesbian. That would have solved so many problems. *LOL*

by Anonymousreply 146January 24, 2015 4:45 AM

Yeah, that scene when Natasha walks in on Carrie was uncomfortable to watch. One would think that Carrie would have been too nervous to stick around the apartment after Big left, but she lingered after her shower and nosed around to take in Natasha's decorating taste. So, not only was she cheating with someone's husband, she was also relaxed and unconcerned about it afterwards while still in the husband and wife's apartment.

I still liked Carrie, though. Somehow.

by Anonymousreply 147January 24, 2015 4:50 AM

[qupte]Carrie was the worst. It really bugs me that she expected Charlotte to give her her engagement ring so she could buy her apartment. She even got pissed Charlotte didn't offer right away!

She didn't expect Charlotte to give her the ring. She had received the down payment money from Mr. Big, which she revealed to the girls at lunch, asking them if she should take it. They discussed it and then Miranda and Samantha offered her the down payment money (or at least a chunk of it). Carrie refused. Charlotte looked away the whole time and changed the subject. Carrie later confronted Charlotte, pissed that she didn't offer or even listen, but making clear that she would not have taken it. It was stupid and obnoxious, but Carrie didn't ever demand or expect the money. She was more pissed that Charlotte was ignoring her problems. Later, Charlotte, on her own, offered Carrie the ring to sell for down payment money and even then Carrie was hesitant and told Charlotte to really think about it, understanding that it would take a while to pay back.

by Anonymousreply 148January 24, 2015 4:52 AM

But Carrie DID guilt trip Charlotte. Like crazy.

by Anonymousreply 149January 24, 2015 4:59 AM

Speaking of Protestant work ethic, Charlotte was showing her true Episcopalian self.

Carrie went to work on Charlotte by goading her on the fact she was "given" her Park Avenue apartment as part of the divorce settlement. Carrie further laid into Charlotte we she observed the latter still wore her wedding ring when at home.

Carrie was a typical first class user that only NYC and a few other places can produce. Her sense of entitlement simply was unbounded by taste, manners or propriety. Mooches are bad enough, those who feel it is their god given right for you to subsidize their lifestyle are to be avoided at all costs.

Cannot speak for elsewhere but there are plenty of real life "Carries' walking around NYC. It also explains why women are always fighting with each other.

Mrs. Phelps Potter gives the young Mrs. John Day some of the best advice when she tells her to keep out of other women's troubles.

by Anonymousreply 150January 24, 2015 5:16 AM

Carrie should have used the loan from Big. He lent it with no strings attached, so why tear up the check? He could well afford it more than Charlotte, and he treated Carrie like crap so he "owed" it to her more than Charlotte did. (Obviously, no one owed it to her, but it's Carrie we're talking about.)

by Anonymousreply 151January 24, 2015 5:23 AM

I never understood why it was considered not just okay but actually funny to joke about Steve having had testicular cancer. The whole "one ball" episode was offensive to me. Imagine if they had a "one breast" episode when Samantha had breast cancer.

by Anonymousreply 152January 24, 2015 5:29 AM

It's a fictional comedy, R152. That's why it's okay. Geesh.

by Anonymousreply 153January 24, 2015 5:35 AM

Except that it would sound awful for a TV episode to make continual jokes about a woman having only one breast. It seemed wrong to me.

by Anonymousreply 154January 24, 2015 5:44 AM

When Carrie first started dating Big and she had really long blonde hair was the only time she was actually pretty. Otherwise her looks were average to actually looking rough towards the end of the show.

by Anonymousreply 155January 24, 2015 5:44 AM

[quote]it doesn't matter what a woman's face looks like, a straight man will fuck ANYONE with a great body like SJP has

You say that like it only applies to the straight male. Gay men are guiltiest of that. Look at all the emphasis on body in any gay event, publication, orgy, sex ad, etc. it's like the faces don't matter.

[quote]Did we ever know what a "Cosmopolitan" was before SATC?

Yes -

by Anonymousreply 156January 24, 2015 6:06 AM

To be fair, we must consider syndicated reruns are not on HBO and therefore heavily censored, which takes away quite a bit from the series' original edginess - however much it had.

My favorite moments had more to do with realistic nudity (as opposed to sex under the sheets) and their ability to deliver punch lines like Goldicocks when talking about fussy penis tastes.

by Anonymousreply 157January 24, 2015 6:10 AM

No way Miranda would start pining after Steve while dating Robert. No way. Not on this planet or any other planet.

by Anonymousreply 158January 24, 2015 6:32 AM

I like blue.

by Anonymousreply 159January 24, 2015 7:33 AM

I liked the show when it aired, but I haven't seen a rerun since the finale. I liked the first movie, but avoided the second one.

My real problem with the series is the delusional viewers who patterned their lives after these women. How many Real Housewives and Kardashians think that they are Carrie? And why do women fight over who gets to be Carrie? Samantha vs Charlotte is the real debate.

by Anonymousreply 160January 24, 2015 8:12 AM

Sarah Jessica Parker for the reboot of "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?"!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 161January 24, 2015 8:14 AM

I like the show. It's fun and over the top, not a documentary. It's really sad that so many women modeled their lives after it.

by Anonymousreply 162January 24, 2015 8:49 AM

I love the episode where Tamara Tunie plays one of the power dykes. Charlotte hangs around with the power dykes and she realizes that she wasn't gay.

by Anonymousreply 163January 24, 2015 10:02 AM

I have a gay male acquaintance who is convinced he is the male version of Carrie. It's nauseating, that's why I hate SATC now.

by Anonymousreply 164January 24, 2015 11:13 AM

How big was Mr. Too Big, that Samantha couldn't handle his peen?

The sadist in me ki-keed a little when Berger broke up with Carrie, and when Big jilted her at the altar. And it totally made no sense for her to forgive Big and marry him anyway. 'Cause in the SATC 2 movie, they are bickering over the flatscreen TV he got for her as a gift. She was such an annoying heifer.

by Anonymousreply 165January 24, 2015 1:49 PM

Big's big romantic gesture was to cut and paste the great love letters of history and send them to her in some emails. That's it. She came running. She was basically just a gold digger and a shrill one at that.

by Anonymousreply 166January 24, 2015 2:15 PM

I'd forgotten about a lot of Carrie's bf's except Mr. Big, Aleksandr, Aidan and Berger (stupid name. Was that his first or last?) Don't remember the Maytag guy at all.

Was the guy playing Steve putting that whiny, little boy voice on or does he really sound like that?

I saw the episode yesterday where Samantha catches Richard eating out some chick's pussy. That one was funny but sad for her. She rarely let her guards down.

by Anonymousreply 167January 24, 2015 3:56 PM

That's David Eigenberg's (Steve) real voice.

by Anonymousreply 168January 24, 2015 4:04 PM

Grotesque and pathetic, but profitable.

by Anonymousreply 169January 24, 2015 4:09 PM

I'm scared!

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by Anonymousreply 170January 24, 2015 4:14 PM

Carrie's relationship with Big should have ended when she walked away from seeing him at the Plaza after his engagement party. She had clarity as to why they were never going to be together and it made sense. Men like Big might fuck women like Carrie a few times but they never marry them.

There was no way a man like Petrofsky would have been attracted to a low-rent skank like Carrie, especially after we see what his first wife was like. She ridiculed everything about him, including playing a song for her on the piano. When she did that fake swoon at the Opera, I wish he had let her fall to the ground and left her lying there.

I think SJP looked the best when she had the shorter hair during the Aidan redux sequence. It's beyond ridiculous she's still wearing that long, long hair even now.

by Anonymousreply 171January 24, 2015 4:17 PM

Carrie was such a heinous character by the end of the show's run. I was actually glad that Petrovsky treated her like shit.

by Anonymousreply 172January 24, 2015 4:35 PM

Does anyone here know why SJP and Kim Cattrall didn't get along? I remember some people being surprised when it became public they weren't best friends like they were on screen.

by Anonymousreply 173January 24, 2015 5:38 PM

Does anyone here remember when Bradley Cooper was on Sex and the City?

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by Anonymousreply 174January 25, 2015 12:20 AM

No, what was his role? Was he the 20-something she had an affair with and woke up horrified by the mess in his room and that he had roommates too. Or was he the bisexual one?

One I can remember very well was Justin Theroux, who portrayed a boyfriend having a big problem with premature ejaculation. He was always coming in his boxer shorts as soon as they would start to make out.

by Anonymousreply 175January 25, 2015 12:30 AM

IIRC BC played the guy who took Carrie for a ride in his *very* nice Porsche and something happened afterwards. Don't think he was a recurring character or a serious BF like Berger, Big or the others.

by Anonymousreply 176January 25, 2015 12:43 AM

"I'm a dude!"

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by Anonymousreply 177January 25, 2015 12:45 AM

Carrie's scorecard:

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by Anonymousreply 178January 25, 2015 12:46 AM

R176, exactly. I really don't get his appeal but he looks even worse in the Sex and the City episode he was in.

by Anonymousreply 179January 25, 2015 1:00 AM

Carrie was extremely self-involved and bossy.

She dates the bi guy: "Do I kiss better than a guy?"

When they went to Atlantic City Charlotte wants them to get a drink with a couple of guys and Carrie puts the kibosh on it, then later they're riding the trolley and Carrie demands that Charlotte go back to the hotel.

The worst was when she tells the girls that Miranda's mother had died. She makes it entirely about her:

Where have you been, and where's Miranda? I'm starving. - What's wrong?

Miranda's in Philadelphia. Her mother had a heart attack yesterday and she died, early this morning.

She wasn't even sick. I can't believe it. Poor Miranda, how is she?

[bold]*I* don't know. She's not good. *I* just felt so awful for her and *I* just... *I* didn't know...what to say to her and...You know Miranda, she was trying to be so strong, but she sounded so alone. And *I* just kept saying all the wrong things, *I* think.[/bold]

- No, I'm sure you didn't.

by Anonymousreply 180January 25, 2015 1:00 AM

I watched it for the hot guys. Samantha took some rides of some real hot studs.

by Anonymousreply 181January 25, 2015 1:11 AM

Carrie was supposed to be the "point of view", middle of the road character. The other women would never have been friends w/o her bringing them together.

OTOH, she's the one character that never "grew". Samantha got into a relationship. Miranda found someone who wasn't as uptight as here and moved to Brooklyn (now she'd be a second wave hipster). Charlotte married someone who wouldn't have fit into Greenwich. Carrie never got over Big and pushed away much better guys.

The show was no documentary, but even accounting for her journo and ex-club kid connections, she couldn't have afforded all those shoes.

The story arc with the Russian was stupid. The need to be rescued by Big really put the capper on what vapid, immature character she was.

SJP has made a series of bad movies with often bad parts post-Carrie. Between that and all her plastic surgery, she hasn't worn well which also makes it easier to diss SATC.

by Anonymousreply 182January 25, 2015 4:05 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 183September 20, 2017 1:40 AM

I think a lot of people are missing the point. Carrie is not meant to be seen as perfect or ideal. She is meant to be seen as a flawed character who is needy and sometimes manipulative. This was a TV show so, of course, the flaws are going to be exaggerated so dramatic effect. But let's be honest, all of us, male or female, can see bits and pieces of us in her neurosis. That was the point. She was far from perfect but she was "Everyman."

by Anonymousreply 184September 20, 2017 2:03 AM

Unlike you boys who who made this show such a big deal I've watched precisely one episode of Sex and the City. I really never couid understand why it warranted dozens of threads over the years.

But I kinda liked the commercial that she parlayed from the show. SJP probably got a million for this.

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by Anonymousreply 185September 20, 2017 2:05 AM

I liked Steve, Harry and Smith but not Big.

by Anonymousreply 186September 20, 2017 2:37 AM

Candy Bushnell stole my act!

by Anonymousreply 187September 20, 2017 2:40 AM

The episode where Stanford brings Carrie to meet his Grandmother is based on a true story. The guy Stanford is based on came from a very rich family. I met the guy on a plane from New York to LA. Much better looking and kind of hot. He was involved in the beginning of the show as a manager or something.

by Anonymousreply 188September 20, 2017 2:53 AM

Part of show's appeal was a kind of wish fullfillment.

by Anonymousreply 189September 20, 2017 3:14 AM

I really hate when a group of fraus or gays start the dreaded "which SatC characters are we????" shit.

They always peg me as a "Charlotte". I think they mean it as an insult, but I don't mind it.

by Anonymousreply 190September 20, 2017 3:33 AM

SJP beautiful? r12? I think you need to get your eyes checked. Either that or you're living in a different universe than the rest of us.

by Anonymousreply 191September 20, 2017 3:49 AM

Oh why not... Liked it at first and to me, like a lot of shows, they couldn't sustain the quality.

Couldn't stomach Steve, actually liked Miranda, liked the Carrie character because she was so imperfect. Samantha and Charlotte struck me as too one-note.

A moment I liked, Miranda goes into the office to have an abortion, comes out... and there are lots of troubled, uncertain looks... and Miranda says she couldn't do it, we're going to have a baby or something like that.

And as someone who spent some teen time in NYC during the 1970s, there were times when the show felt like a Valentine's card to NYC.

by Anonymousreply 192September 20, 2017 3:49 AM

Loved it all the way through. Thought it got better as it went in. As a straight woman, I related to a lot of it, that's why it worked so well. When other women and I talk about it, it doesn't matter our background, the storylines are something common to all women. The time your friend dated the rich guy and he dumped her. The time you dated the artist who was all in to himself. The time you were crying at home because you think you're ugly.....whatever, girls can relate. And for people saying Carrie couldn't get those guys...wrong! You should see who my friends and I've pulled.....and were pretty plain.

by Anonymousreply 193September 20, 2017 4:06 AM

If they make a third movie, someone has to die.

by Anonymousreply 194September 20, 2017 5:00 AM

Next year will be 20 years since Sex and the City debuted, if you can believe it.

by Anonymousreply 195September 20, 2017 5:29 AM

[quote] Next year will be 20 years since Sex and the City debuted, if you can believe it.

I believe it

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by Anonymousreply 196September 20, 2017 5:43 AM

I watched ONE episode to see what I was missing, already knowing this frau-fest tv sort of thing would give me HIVES, but I had no real idea how awful it would be!

I imagine it has aged poorly because it was so shitty to begin with!

by Anonymousreply 197September 20, 2017 6:23 AM

It was very much a show of it's time, perhaps THE show of it's time. I think it's aged fairly well, but as a period piece. You also have to remember that the shows in syndication are heavily edited. A couple have Samantha's storyline cut out completely because it couldn't get by the censors.

by Anonymousreply 198September 20, 2017 6:27 AM

Up-the-Butt Girl

by Anonymousreply 199September 20, 2017 6:32 AM

I hated the depiction of gay men as accessories. Nowhere is this more evident than in the episode where Carrie goes with the girls to a guy club and meets a hunky gay Australian. He becomes her new gays pet. ..until they go out and, shock horror, he talks to guys and doesn't give her enough attention. Jess Christ that annoyed me. I mean all the time she's with Aiden and yet she's still looking for some guy to fawn over her. It showed up how she felt about gay men as just there for her as ego boosters, and showed how little she really cared for Aiden. She was horrible.

by Anonymousreply 200September 20, 2017 7:04 AM

I'm not sure it's that unrealistic that those guys dated Carrie considering she was with JFK Jr at one point

by Anonymousreply 201September 20, 2017 7:08 AM

Carrie and Bigs relationship was so boring and predictable. He just used her for sex all through the series and she just saw him as a rich guy who could fulfill her cinderella fantasy. Let's face it she wouldn't have been interested had he not been rich. She ended it with Aiden cause he wasn't wealthy enough ie not Big. It wasn't romantic at all. All that phoney stuff about her not being ready for marriage was BS. She would have jumped down the aisle if Big had proposed with a huge diamond ring. Carrie was a shallow neurotic asshole.

by Anonymousreply 202September 20, 2017 7:27 AM

As if we all dont know gay guys like each of the girls, especially Carrie.

by Anonymousreply 203September 20, 2017 10:51 AM

[quote]It was very much a show of it's time, perhaps THE show of it's time. I think it's aged fairly well, but as a period piece.

Why would you call it a period piece, what makes it dated? I'm not being snarky, I'm interested in knowing your opinion.

by Anonymousreply 204September 20, 2017 12:02 PM

[Quote] You also have to remember that the shows in syndication are heavily edited. A couple have Samantha's storyline cut out completely because it couldn't get by the censors.

The more you know.

by Anonymousreply 205September 20, 2017 12:13 PM

I actually sympathized with Miranda. She had a real job - when did she have the time or the patience to socialize with those self absorbed parasite loser dogs (Carrie and Charlotte)?

by Anonymousreply 206September 20, 2017 12:24 PM

There's a great episode with Miranda's mother dying, and Nixon is great. It has a bonus subplot where Samantha is doing it with a hot daddy gymnast and we get to see him naked. (But no dick shots I recall, alas.)

by Anonymousreply 207September 20, 2017 12:49 PM

Miranda was actually the most believable character to me. She called Carrie out on a lot of her shit. I abhor Carrie. For a sex columnist she was incredibly dull and close-minded. Remember the ep where she dates the politician and he's into golden showers? She freaks and offers to pour warm tea on him instead but then he dumps her because his campaign manager is worried about him dating a sex columnist.

by Anonymousreply 208September 20, 2017 1:02 PM

[Quote] She called Carrie out on a lot of her shit.

That's for sure.

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by Anonymousreply 209September 20, 2017 2:09 PM

I had just started college when SATC premiered, and they looked so much older to me. SJP, Nixon and Davis were only in their early 30s, but to me they all looked middle-aged. Cattrall looked like she was pushing 60.

by Anonymousreply 210September 20, 2017 2:23 PM

The girls look embalmed in SATC 2.

by Anonymousreply 211September 20, 2017 2:24 PM

I recently stumbled upon the original columns the series was based on, by Candace Bushnell (who could be Ann Coulter's twin sister, lookswise)

What a bizarre story.

She was this seemingly intelligent woman who spent her time with a bunch of creepy gold diggers and Wall Street types whom she clearly loathed--she spent much of the column mocking them.

So it made no sense that she continued to hang out with them--it wasn't as if she worked with them or lived next door to them or was related to them. She actively sought them out yet despised them.

Made no sense to me, though they seem to have sorted that out in the series?

by Anonymousreply 212September 20, 2017 2:32 PM

I felt sorry for Natasha after Carrie ambushed her.

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by Anonymousreply 213September 20, 2017 3:03 PM

Cynthia Nixon was one of those cases where much of the audience knew she was gay even before she did. The only Miranda scenes that rang true were the ones where she didn't want to have sex with her husband.

by Anonymousreply 214September 20, 2017 3:18 PM

[quote] Candace Bushnell (who could be Ann Coulter's twin sister, lookswise)

Also, a big time Republican.

by Anonymousreply 215September 20, 2017 5:30 PM

Broad city or sex and the City? Favorite women in NYC show?

by Anonymousreply 216September 20, 2017 5:34 PM

r214 Cynthia isn't gay, she's gay by choice

by Anonymousreply 217September 20, 2017 5:44 PM

If Sex and the City taught me one thing, it's that it's now legit to show women having sex with their bras on in a film or tv series.

by Anonymousreply 218September 20, 2017 7:25 PM

I posted this once before but my list for most irritating and why is as follows.

4. Samantha - wanton slut but at least admits it so my favorite actually.

3. Miranda - bitchy, ball busting career woman with a serious chip on her shoulder. She does however give Carrie shit when deserving and has to put with with baby voiced Steve.

2. Charlotte -WASPY, uptight, social climbing princess who is searching for a rich man to support her for the rest of her life. Her incessant search for Prince Charming was pathetic and weird.

and, voila, in first place:

Carrie - vain, self-centered, whiny and screeching, self-described "city girl" who expresses disdain and terror at Aidan's cute little country place and is confronted by a squirrel. Freaks out about a scrunchie Berger mentions in his book and mostly for her stalking Big and deliberately trying to sabotage his marriage to someone else. In the real world, Big would have RUN and filed a police report.

by Anonymousreply 219September 20, 2017 8:39 PM

We were actually supposed to believe that a hot AF Ron Livingston (in the prime of his looks) would've fallen madly in love with Old Horseface. IRL he wouldn't have given her a second glance.

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by Anonymousreply 220September 20, 2017 8:50 PM

I re-wached the series while going through a "relationship" that slightly mirrored the Carrie/Big saga. This guy even said he could see himself as Mr. Big when he was older. Best sex of my life and I was madly in love with him, but I always knew it would never work out as much as I wanted it to. Watching this show during that moment of my life genuinely helped me a great deal. It also made me realize I might share a few more traits with Carrie than I'd care to admit.

I remember one moment, after he'd told me he was going to start dating someone else, I got in my car, drove for a bit, circled back, ran to his apartment and basically spilled my guts and put my heart out there, while still trying to play it off like I was just giving him friendly advice (he only ever considered me a friend with benefits) as to why he shouldn't date anyone. Seemed like a very Carrie thing to do and I cringe now thinking about it. I think we've all had cringey Carrie moments like that if we're being honest.

by Anonymousreply 221September 20, 2017 9:04 PM

I always thought it odd that none of them had parents who showed up at weddings or anything. I think Miranda mentioned a mother? Did any of the others have parents that were mentioned? I know Steve's mother showed up in some episodes.

by Anonymousreply 222September 20, 2017 9:08 PM

Well, we knew Carrie's father abandoned the family when she was very young.

by Anonymousreply 223September 20, 2017 9:46 PM

I liked it when it really was about sex. But I did hate, after all that yacking for years, that all four "independent" women ended up not only with men but rich successful men, no less. Even the poor blue collar bartender ended up owning the hip bar.

Great messages throughout actually -- Charlotte was the ultimate whore, holding out for a million on her pre-nup and then being rewarded for a short marriage (she ruined with an affair) with a Park Avenue apartment. You've come a long way, baby. But it's still all about his money.

by Anonymousreply 224September 20, 2017 9:53 PM

R204 My distinction is this: I don't think it's dated because, (to me at least), most of the writing is still funny. Old Cheers episodes are still funny, so is Seinfeld. But has anyone tried to watch a Murphy Brown episode lately?

by Anonymousreply 225September 20, 2017 9:53 PM

Congratulations, PO, (if you're still,alive). You've grown up.

by Anonymousreply 226September 20, 2017 9:57 PM

P.S. Miranda's mom was buried in a famous episode, R222,

by Anonymousreply 227September 20, 2017 9:58 PM

A few years ago, I tried watching Murphy Brown in syndication, after many, many years of not having seen it. I needed a broom and a dustpan to sweep up all the dropped names which remained topical and hopelessly anchored to the 80s and early 90s and which were at the very core of anything that attempted to be a joke. In other words, utterly unfunny. Oh, yeah, and the whitest woman in the universe groovin' down to Motown classics - like your aunt from Connecticut trying to be "down with the kids". Yawn.

by Anonymousreply 228September 20, 2017 9:59 PM

Since nobody really answered it, Bradley Cooper played a guy Carrie picked up after her awful "Single and Fabulous?" magazine cover came out. He stopped for smokes and came back with the magazine, asking if it was her. She climbs out of the Porsche and goes home alone rather than have a one-nighter that would make her feel worse. It was one of the better episodes actually.

by Anonymousreply 229September 20, 2017 10:04 PM

[R22] Charlotte had a brother show up, but besides Miranda, no parents showed up. MP regretted introducing Charlotte's brother because he didn't think the show was about that. It was about the girls in the city etc. so he never really wrote scenes about family members again. In the commentary for the SatC movie he mentioned that Carrie's parents could've been at the wedding rehearsal and whatnot, but he left it up to the viewers to kinda come up with that assumption, cause again, he wasn't interested in the girl's backstories and whatnot that much. So parent's could have been present at major events, but just never shown.

by Anonymousreply 230September 20, 2017 10:19 PM

r196 made me laugh

by Anonymousreply 231September 20, 2017 11:11 PM

Carrie was such a cunt that I'm not surprised her family stayed away.

by Anonymousreply 232September 20, 2017 11:19 PM

A SATC III worth watching would have Charlotte, Samantha or Charlotte betraying Carrie by having an affair with Big.

by Anonymousreply 233September 20, 2017 11:56 PM

A SATC III (AKA "Metamucil & The City") worth watching would involve a grease fire in Carrie's shoe closet.

by Anonymousreply 234September 20, 2017 11:58 PM

That too r234.

by Anonymousreply 235September 21, 2017 12:02 AM

A sneak peak of SATC III (SJP has never looked better):

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by Anonymousreply 236September 21, 2017 12:23 AM

Only if it's Charlotte, R233. It would be too cliche for "the slut" Samantha to do it, and there aren't beer goggles in the world that would make Miranda attractive to Big. Maybe Charlotte is a widow or something and Big decides that he wants to be a father after all. Carrie decides to host a vacation and Charlotte and Big fall in love.

I'd watch it.

by Anonymousreply 237September 21, 2017 12:25 AM

Sandra Bernhard was originally going to play Miranda. Yuck. Too much homely for one show.

by Anonymousreply 238September 21, 2017 12:28 AM

[quote] Sandra Bernhard was originally going to play Miranda.

But they decided to go for someone a little more dykey.

by Anonymousreply 239September 21, 2017 12:32 AM

I saw the first episode for a class, I was stoned and pretty much figured "so she's ugly and trying to date and it's rough going?"

by Anonymousreply 240September 21, 2017 1:22 AM

SATC2 wasn't as popular as the first movie. It seems every year there is a rumor of a third.

by Anonymousreply 241September 21, 2017 1:27 AM

We got a glimpse of Aiden's parents once; they were used to show how fucking neurotic Carrie was about getting too close to Aiden too soon. And similar to what someone above pointed out, she would've leaped at the chance to meet Big's parents (and in fact STALKED Big and his mother inside a church one in an early episode).

by Anonymousreply 242September 21, 2017 1:30 AM

^ inside a church once

by Anonymousreply 243September 21, 2017 1:38 AM

I can smell r221's cunt.

by Anonymousreply 244September 21, 2017 1:38 AM

Yes, in S1 Carrie asked if she could go to church with Big and his mother. His said no and when she asked why not, he replied "my mother doesn't need to meet *another* girlfriend." That should have been like, sign #34 that he just wasn't into her. Instead she stalked him to church, dragged Miranda with her, sat in the rafters and then "accidentally" dropped a Bible to the floor. The look on Big's face when he saw her up there was priceless. Then she put herself in Big and his mother's path and basically forced an introduction. Big must be some kind of masochist because any other guy would have seen Carrie for the psycho that she was and ran for the hills right then.

by Anonymousreply 245September 21, 2017 1:51 AM

It was ridiculous enough that Carrie became a writer for Vogue, but putting her on the cover with a feature about her for her wedding was barf-inducing.

by Anonymousreply 246September 21, 2017 3:13 AM

"Oh Blossom -- you're so beautiful!"

by Anonymousreply 247September 21, 2017 10:49 AM

R246, to be fair, they introduce Big as the next Donald Trump, and his golddigger got the cover...

by Anonymousreply 248September 21, 2017 11:07 AM

I agree with most of the criticism on this thread but once in a while i still watch a couple of episodes, especially from the first seasons: it reminds me of the late 90s era. Before 9/11 the world really seemed like paradise (and i was in my early 20s), and this show about sex and spending money is a perfect time capsule of those days.

by Anonymousreply 249September 21, 2017 11:43 AM

Even though it was filmed in a real city, SATC is as realistic as Game of Thrones.

by Anonymousreply 250September 21, 2017 12:43 PM

God i was obsessed with the show when I was in college. The first movie was almost fine, then the second movie is such a dumpster fire.

I think the series was very much a thing of its time, because back then 4 women in a tv series usually never talk about sex freely. To be so frank about sex was new and it paved the way we see sex on TV.

by Anonymousreply 251September 21, 2017 12:59 PM

Everyone should have a Samantha in their lives.

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by Anonymousreply 252September 21, 2017 1:07 PM

Samantha was fun, yeah, but season after season of those drag queen statements like the one above made me dislike her. I'm sure secretly Kim Cattrall hates Samantha too.

by Anonymousreply 253September 21, 2017 1:14 PM

[quote]a hot AF Ron Livingston

You're out of your fucking mind.

by Anonymousreply 254September 21, 2017 1:28 PM

[Quote] I'm sure secretly Kim Cattrall hates Samantha too.

Really??

by Anonymousreply 255September 21, 2017 1:38 PM

She's a fine actress, it must be hard playing a caricature for like 25 years!

by Anonymousreply 256September 21, 2017 1:54 PM

I don't think it was odd for Carrie to attract all the hot guys, as someone pointed out up thread, SJP dated JFK Jr. But she needed to have a great personality on the show and instead she was whiny and neurotic. I never understood what Aidan saw in her, like what did they do for actual conversation? They had nothing in common. Same with Petrovsky. What in god's name did they talk about? When the episodes weren't so focused on Carrie, they were good. Lots of funny peripheral characters.

by Anonymousreply 257September 21, 2017 2:31 PM

What was the baby name someone "stole" from Charlotte? It was kind of trashy and not something you would expect Charlotte to want to name her offspring.

by Anonymousreply 258September 21, 2017 2:40 PM

That was the other thing about Charlotte. She had her whole life mapped like some weird OCD fetish down to baby names. She seems like the kind who had a hope chest stashed away and signed her name with every new bf's surname over and over. "Mrs. Charlotte York Goldenblatt" "Mrs. Charlotte Goldenblatt" Mrs. Charlotte York-Goldenblatt"

by Anonymousreply 259September 21, 2017 2:48 PM

Cattrall's big break in the movies was playing a character whose orgasms sound like a barking dog. She should have dropped any illusions of being a respected actor a long time ago.

by Anonymousreply 260September 21, 2017 2:49 PM

SATC wasn't a documentary, so that's why Carrie attracted hot guys. The show couldn't be 30 minutes of her typing on her laptop.

JFK Jr briefly dated SJP because 1) he was trying to break into Hollywood at the time, and she was one of the few famous NYC based actresses around his age at the time and 2) she was bangable. With 1) being his higher priority.

by Anonymousreply 261September 21, 2017 3:05 PM

[Quote] What was the baby name someone "stole" from Charlotte? It was kind of trashy and not something you would expect Charlotte to want to name her offspring.

Stealing baby names is so fucking weird.

[Quote] She seems like the kind who had a hope chest stashed away and signed her name with every new bf's surname over and over. "Mrs. Charlotte York Goldenblatt" "Mrs. Charlotte Goldenblatt" Mrs. Charlotte York-Goldenblatt"

She totally did.

by Anonymousreply 262September 21, 2017 3:08 PM

R258, I am pretty sure it was Shayla. I met a few of them in life actually. Dana Wheeler Nicholson was such a good bitch in that episode.

Let's face it, Samantha was a gay man in female form from minute one. Few if any women would act or talk like that. By the time she was getting female orgasm shot into her face, it was a bit of a joke.

by Anonymousreply 263September 21, 2017 3:20 PM

[Quote] Let's face it, Samantha was a gay man in female form from minute one.

Exhibit A

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by Anonymousreply 264September 21, 2017 3:28 PM

Thanks, R263. I stand by my trashy comment.

by Anonymousreply 265September 21, 2017 3:39 PM

Sisters tried, r251

by Anonymousreply 266September 21, 2017 3:50 PM

I never understood why some of these women would even be friends. Charlotte didn't really fit in. Carrie and Samantha as friends, yes. Carrie and Miranda, yes. Miranda and Samantha... eh. Maybe acquaintances at best. Charlotte and anyone else, no.

by Anonymousreply 267September 21, 2017 4:03 PM

Yeah, the Shayla I knew in Austin TX was a total trashbag.

by Anonymousreply 268September 21, 2017 4:09 PM

Charlotte's baby name was so funny. I figured it would be some obscure Victorian-era name like Ottilie or Maile, but it was straight out of the iron belt trailer park.

by Anonymousreply 269September 21, 2017 4:14 PM

[Quote] Charlotte and anyone else, no.

You just reminded me of the episode when Samantha sleeps with Charlotte's brother. She was such an asshole to Sam.

by Anonymousreply 270September 21, 2017 4:20 PM

I also though Trey's name was stupid. They were like some 1980 highschooler's John Hughes induced ideas of what upper class names would sound like.

by Anonymousreply 271September 21, 2017 4:20 PM

[quote]The producers copied the successful "Golden Girls" formula.

Except that show was created by a woman and had a more diverse mix of writers.

by Anonymousreply 272September 21, 2017 4:41 PM

Because of this thread, i watched a handful of episodes from Season 4 (my favorite season) last night, starting with S4Ep2, The Real Me, which is my favorite episode of all. I watched with the mindset of what a narcissistic cunt you all say Carrie is. And it's not that I disagreed, but I usually watch the show being annoyed with Carrie's stupid, compulsive, insecure, self-sabotaging decisions, knowing that many of us behave this way.

Well... What a narcissistic CUNT! I don't know how Saint Aidan didn't beat the living shit out of her. And I don't just mean the two huge examples- her cheating on him with Big and her breaking the engagement after he moves in and buys both apartments on her floor. It's the little things, like rejecting every kind, thoughtful gesture he did, from buying her a new computer to not balking when she hung out with Big to showing up at Miranda's mother's funeral, and on and on and on. What a spoiled, entitled, nasty, dismissive fucking cunt. She deserved Big.

by Anonymousreply 273September 21, 2017 5:25 PM

[quote] Lots of funny peripheral characters.

Now we're talking. I would've watched the entire show based on the character of Amalita Amalfi and her coterie of aristo-Eurotrash friends.

by Anonymousreply 274September 21, 2017 5:37 PM

When the second movie aired I remember thinking that Carrie was ill suited to Big in the long run. He wants to stay in and relax and she's whining about wanting to go out and see and be seen, vapid cunt that she is. She is not domestic enough for marriage.

R274, I'd love to have seen more of Amalita too along with Lexie, the socialite who fell from the window, and Carrie's friend, the wild party girl groupie turned house frau, back when she was still wild.

by Anonymousreply 275September 21, 2017 5:40 PM

Only a gay man could come up with a name like Amalita Amalfi.

by Anonymousreply 276September 21, 2017 5:52 PM

I agree Charlotte would never have been friends with any of those, maybe Miranda, but that's it.

by Anonymousreply 277September 21, 2017 5:58 PM

Heterosexuals are malignant narcissists. So what else is new?

by Anonymousreply 278September 21, 2017 6:40 PM

[quote] Heterosexuals are malignant narcissists. So what else is new?

That's not the shocking part. The shocking part is that no one ever called her on it. Miranda did every now and then, but not to the degree she should have.

by Anonymousreply 279September 21, 2017 6:42 PM

let's not complain too much. You know that if this show were produced today one of the "girls" would be played by Laverne Cox or someone like him. At least we got spared that.

by Anonymousreply 280September 21, 2017 7:04 PM

r280 Yep we would have needed a Latina, a disabled, a black, a tranny, no gay men because they are mysoginistic.

by Anonymousreply 281September 21, 2017 7:17 PM

[quote] [R280] Yep we would have needed a Latina, a disabled, a black, a tranny,

Well, we just figured out how to make the show even MORE narcissistic

by Anonymousreply 282September 21, 2017 7:19 PM

I Hated the gay characters

by Anonymousreply 283September 21, 2017 7:26 PM

Oh, let's hijack a completely unrelated thread!

by Anonymousreply 284September 21, 2017 7:27 PM

R284 Take it to Tumblr

by Anonymousreply 285September 21, 2017 7:30 PM

r285 Take it to 4chan.

by Anonymousreply 286September 21, 2017 7:33 PM

Another one here who loved all of the peripheral, one-shot characters. That's a big reason why I watched the show.

by Anonymousreply 287September 21, 2017 8:36 PM

Was Luann really based on a SITC character?

by Anonymousreply 288September 21, 2017 9:33 PM

Couldn't stand to look at charlotte the first two seasons, she was bovine.

by Anonymousreply 289September 21, 2017 9:37 PM

I loved Jennifer Coolidge as the divorcee on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

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by Anonymousreply 290September 21, 2017 9:39 PM

The Magnolia Bakery at Bleecker and 11th made the area famous, which caused small businesses to be pushed out by greedy landlords who brought in Michael Kors, Ralph Lauren, and Coach, all with multiple locations between West 10th and Eighth Avenue. Now these stores are closing , leaving empty storefronts which prompted a lenghty New York Times article on the "Bleakness of Bleecker Street."

by Anonymousreply 291September 21, 2017 9:44 PM

I liked the cocky lawyer? finance guy? who picks up Samantha in a bar but when he stands up, he's only 5' tall. So she tries to ditch him because he's short and he says, So what, you're a slut. Then she laughs and agrees to go out with him, briefly anyway.

Thought the first movie was awful, never saw the second one because it sounded worse.

by Anonymousreply 292September 21, 2017 10:04 PM

the second one must be seen to be believed, R292. Its un-fuckin-believable. You'll join ISIS after watching it.

by Anonymousreply 293September 21, 2017 10:38 PM

The 2nd film is easily one of the worst films of all time. It's like all the actresses had been replaced with clones who'd never played these characters before and the screenwriters was replaced by a computer generating plot lines and dialogue. AWFUL! Liza's random cameo at the start is the only thing worth watching it for.

by Anonymousreply 294September 21, 2017 10:47 PM

There was also the first episode of a later season where it seemed like new lousy writers had been brought in and all four women were suddenly imbeciles -- the one where they start out sniffing perfume and Carrie announces she wants a "luv-ah" and it gets worse than that. Miranda becomes a dummy who thinks Steve is going to beat up her big black boyfriend she just dumped (as if), Charlotte decides out of nowhere to help the blind and stumbles around a department store wearing a blindfold she doesn't take off even when trampled (as if), and Samantha becomes a psychobitch out of nowhere and fucks her abusive ex upstairs while her young stud boyfriend waits for her downstairs. (WTF?)

The show got back on track the very next episode but I always thought that was bizarre bizarre bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 295September 21, 2017 10:54 PM

R288 There is a character in the second season of the show who Candace Bushnell allegedly based on her friend IRL, Dorinda Medley. The character's name was Susan Sharon and she was married to a rageoholic named Richard who worked in Finance. Like Dorinda, Susan Sharon ran her own cashmere company. Plus, know who the blonde is in this gif who has her back to the camera? Yes, Candace Bushnell.

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by Anonymousreply 296September 21, 2017 11:25 PM

There were at least a thousand signs that Carrie and Big were doomed before, during and after their wedding, but I still laugh when Big wants to get his own apartment in SATC 2. They hadn't even been married for a year at that point and he can't stand being with her 24/7. You picked the wrong horse, dumbass.

by Anonymousreply 297September 21, 2017 11:27 PM

R295 Samantha's ex wasn't abusive, you want to know abusive? Ask Ryan Phillippe

by Anonymousreply 298September 21, 2017 11:34 PM

Mark Kermode's awesome review of SATC 2. He hated it.

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by Anonymousreply 299September 22, 2017 12:19 AM

God I love Brits like the one at r299, they just tell it like it is, not like typical Americans walking on eggshells, trying not to offend.

by Anonymousreply 300September 22, 2017 12:51 AM

He was a serial cheater asshole. Maybe not abuse but compared to gorgeous saint Absolut Hunk. And she's still a nutcase to go fuck him just to be mean to Smith.

by Anonymousreply 301September 22, 2017 1:09 AM

(And, for the record, I don't believe Ryan Phillipe is abusive either.)

by Anonymousreply 302September 22, 2017 1:11 AM

To be honest, Richard exuded much more raw sexiness, even if it was of the assholish variety, than Jerry/Jarrod ever did. The latter looked like a dumb, plastic Ken doll with naughty parts removed.

by Anonymousreply 303September 22, 2017 1:13 AM

Yuck. Deal with that actor in real life and see how raw and sexy you find him. Ugh. Give me the sane blonde any day.

by Anonymousreply 304September 22, 2017 1:23 AM

Candace Bushnell was not on the writing staff for any of the SATC seasons and therefore could not base any of the characters on anybody. She had nothing to do with the show. Darren Star created it and wrote the pilot, and put the writing staff together which Candace Bushnell was not part of.

by Anonymousreply 305September 22, 2017 2:11 AM

The show was based on the Sex and The City columns Candace wrote for the NY Observer. The book was not yet published when HBO made the deal with Darren Star. Candace was a consultant for the early episodes, but did not write any of the shows.

by Anonymousreply 306September 22, 2017 2:13 AM

R249 me too, I lived in NYC then and life was exciting and hopefull. The world has changed SO much.

by Anonymousreply 307September 22, 2017 4:30 AM

Those one-off characters that we saw in the early seasons and then never again (Amalita, Laney, Susan Sharon) were straight out of Bushnell's column and based on people that she knew.

by Anonymousreply 308September 22, 2017 5:42 AM

I loved Charlotte in the first two seasons, but after that she and all of the characters became stereotypes. Even the “fashion” became costume-like.

by Anonymousreply 309September 22, 2017 6:16 AM

Sounds like r304 has some info on James Remar. Dish, please!!

by Anonymousreply 310September 22, 2017 4:37 PM

Isn't there an episode with trans characters?? They're Samantha's neighbours or something?? All i remember is Carrie sounding like an idiot at the end of the episode.

by Anonymousreply 311September 22, 2017 5:31 PM

[quote] Isn't there an episode with trans characters?? They're Samantha's neighbours or something?? All i remember is Carrie sounding like an idiot at the end of the episode.

They're not trannys. They're fetishes.

And yes, Carrie goes to do ghetto speak at the end and they cut to the credits right before the big black one throws her off the roof.

by Anonymousreply 312September 22, 2017 5:38 PM

[Quote] they cut to the credits right before the big black one throws her off the roof.

Would've been my favourite episode if that happened lol

by Anonymousreply 313September 22, 2017 5:53 PM

The chicks with dicks who throw eggs at Samantha's window after she tells them to hold down the noise (and douses them with water, granted)? I am so confused; those are not transexuals. They are transvestites, right? Why some of us still use the "tranny" phrase actually. It's too hard to keep up with the rest.

That's the episode where Carrie hears a rooster on a vet clinic roof every morning (until she makes them take it inside so she can sleep). Is that really a thing in NYC?

by Anonymousreply 314September 22, 2017 5:55 PM

IIRC, they used the term "tranny hookers" in that episode. Imagine the shitshow if that happened today!

by Anonymousreply 315September 22, 2017 6:04 PM

I liked the early seasons too when they had "interviews" from people on the street. They stopped that at some point.

by Anonymousreply 316September 22, 2017 6:19 PM

Because of this thread I started watching SATC. It is not Sex In The City as one poster seems to believe. I had heard about the show, but never had HBO so never saw it. With Amazon Prime they have all the seasons plus the two movies. I'm really enjoying it and laugh at least once during an episode. I think, considering it is almost 20 years old, that it has upheld well.

by Anonymousreply 317September 22, 2017 7:53 PM

I can't believe it's been almost 20 years.

by Anonymousreply 318September 22, 2017 10:21 PM

"Is that really a thing in NYC?"

In NYC, anything is potentially a "thing"

There are more things in heaven and Earth, (R314), / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy

by Anonymousreply 319September 22, 2017 11:19 PM

Of all of those women, Samantha is the only one you'd want to hang out with. Charlotte is boring, Miranda is a downer, and Carrie is a self-absorbed cunt.

by Anonymousreply 320September 23, 2017 6:10 AM

I liked sex and the city when I finally watched it...or I liked the first few years. I did think they dressed SJP very badly but I accepted it.

by Anonymousreply 321September 23, 2017 6:15 AM

[Quote] Of all of those women, Samantha is the only one you'd want to hang out with.

I wouldn't mind Samantha and Miranda. If i was with Carrie, my reaction would be similar to Nina Katz.

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by Anonymousreply 322September 23, 2017 4:33 PM

That's because Samantha is really a gay man -- just cast with an actress instead of an actor.

by Anonymousreply 323September 23, 2017 4:45 PM

Hollywood gays are pretty vapid and a bit too "T" if SITC and The Golden Girls are their mouthpieces.

by Anonymousreply 324September 24, 2017 4:49 AM

It's strange that in the past foreign stars seemed to have it easer: Garbo, Dietrich, Loren and others did have huge breaks in Hollywood. I always found it curious that a poor peasant girl like for ex. Sophia Loren managed to speak a perfect english while a cosmopolitan 21th century young woman like Cruz speaks a barely there english after years and years of american movies. What gives?

by Anonymousreply 325September 24, 2017 3:11 PM

^oops, wrong thread sorry

by Anonymousreply 326September 24, 2017 3:12 PM

FWIW, the roosters were rescues kept on the roof of the SPCA. Although having a neighboring animal rescue centre makes no sense for a residential area like she lived in.

by Anonymousreply 327September 24, 2017 3:46 PM

Season six was horrible.

by Anonymousreply 328September 26, 2017 3:50 AM

Really? I think it's when I liked Carrie most myself -- when she was getting bitter despite her career going great (the book), then the whole "waste of time" with Berger. It felt more real somehow, less fairytale bullshit. Which it then became once the Russian came along and then that finale with Mr. Big saving the day.

I rag on it but, if I am honest, it remains one of my favorite shows of all time. Flaws and all.

by Anonymousreply 329September 26, 2017 3:53 AM

enjoyed it at the time. Now? ugh. By the way no women talk like that. That was conversation gay men imagined women having.

by Anonymousreply 330September 26, 2017 3:59 AM

Berger had the most realistic reaction of a normal man to Carrie's bullshit. So in that sense, it was brave for the show to go in that direction. I loved the episode where Carrie ran into Berger's friend at some club and they acted like she was fucking nuts - which she was.

by Anonymousreply 331September 26, 2017 5:06 AM

To be fair, he was too. And adorable.

by Anonymousreply 332September 26, 2017 10:43 AM

One of the best quotes which pretty much captures how the rest of the world felt about most of the main characters, from the "Baby Shower" episode:

Lainie to Charlotte: "I'm sure you get asked this all the time but... what is your problem??"

And the second favorite, during that Highland Fling:

Charlotte: For something called a "fling" it looks like a lot of work.

Bunny MacDougal: That's what I used to tell Trey about you.

by Anonymousreply 333September 26, 2017 12:14 PM

Charlotte and Samantha were my favorites. Carrie and Miranda were selfish, cynical cuntrags.

by Anonymousreply 334September 26, 2017 12:56 PM

How was Miranda selfish?

by Anonymousreply 335September 26, 2017 12:57 PM

Miranda treated Skipper like crap...Steve too, but when he found someone else, she had to have him back, leaving that hot black guy out in the cold. In general, she was a cunt. And Carrie was just as bad.

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by Anonymousreply 337September 26, 2017 5:13 PM

Carrie deserved that. She also deserved to get jilted on her wedding day. Big was an asshole for doing it, but she had it coming. It's my favorite scene from that movie.

by Anonymousreply 338September 26, 2017 5:15 PM

Loved the Carrie / Berger pairing, because they were both such tools. I mean the guy had a freak "Fuck You!" temper tantrum when he heard his ex-girlfriend's voice on the answering machine (shit, how old is this show again?). He was as neurotic and fucked up as Carrie. Of course he couldn't handle Carrie cutting his ball off by being right about one little thing he was wrong about (scrunchy).

by Anonymousreply 339September 26, 2017 5:18 PM

R338 Agreed.

by Anonymousreply 340September 26, 2017 5:18 PM

ballS! Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 341September 26, 2017 5:18 PM

I love the whole scene around Bergers "He's just not into you" and the women staring at him like "Who asked you, asshole?".

by Anonymousreply 342September 26, 2017 5:20 PM

I watched the first 15min of that execrable SATC 2 film today - it was like a fucking parody.

Liza looked held up by animatronics and what the fuck with Carrie, as usual, making Stanford's wedding all about her and wearing an absurd crown headpiece while she did it

And... breathe

by Anonymousreply 343September 26, 2017 5:21 PM

The biggest issue I have is they had good material and never used it: Carrie and Charlotte should have gotten drunk and made out and started an affair. Mainly with rimming, as that's how they got down in real life.

by Anonymousreply 344September 26, 2017 5:25 PM

When I catch an old episode I'm always surprised to see smoking in bars and clubs. Then I think "wait a minute, this show is almost 20 years old!" I forget how long it's been.

by Anonymousreply 345September 26, 2017 5:27 PM

Did two or more of the main girls ever fight over one man?

by Anonymousreply 346September 26, 2017 5:28 PM

Carrie treated Charlotte like shit a lot. They'd be the last pairing that I'd expect. Carrie basically bullied Charlotte into selling her engagement ring from Trey so that Carrie could buy her apartment. That whole scene... that's where Carrie totally lost me forever.

by Anonymousreply 347September 26, 2017 5:28 PM

[quote] Did two or more of the main girls ever fight over one man?

Samantha hit on Big a few times in the early days but he turned her down. Then Charlotte went out with one of Carrie's many flings. There weren't any hard feelings in any of these scenarios.

by Anonymousreply 348September 26, 2017 5:29 PM

This review of SATC 2 is great

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by Anonymousreply 349September 26, 2017 5:54 PM

R347 That whole episode was infuriating. It's nice that the others offered to help Carrie but it wasn't their responsibility. And as Miranda said, it's not like Aidan was being unreasonable (especially after everything she put him through).

by Anonymousreply 350September 26, 2017 5:55 PM

R349, that is hilarious and reminds me of how horrible that movie was.

by Anonymousreply 351September 26, 2017 6:03 PM

R350 It was pathetic that a woman her age who could obviously afford to spend, spend, spend had no savings and nothing to show for her life. I guess that's why she kept rich Charlotte around all those years. If I were Charlotte I would have thrown her ugly ass out of my Park Ave apartment!

by Anonymousreply 352September 26, 2017 6:37 PM

R352 It wouldn't have killed her to just sell some of those shoes.

by Anonymousreply 353September 26, 2017 6:42 PM

[quote] It was pathetic that a woman her age who could obviously afford to spend, spend, spend had no savings and nothing to show for her life

Honestly, doesn’t that describe about 90% of gay men - myself included.

by Anonymousreply 354September 26, 2017 6:56 PM

I just find it implausible that Miranda would think that the engagement ring she helped Aidan pick out for Carrie was any good, when Charlotte and Samantha immediately knew how bad it was. Why wouldn't Miranda also know that? It makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 355September 26, 2017 8:28 PM

What was wrong with ring? Not able to land the shuttle with it?

by Anonymousreply 356September 26, 2017 9:16 PM

R356 pear-shaped, which is one level above marquis, with a non-uniform matte band. I had to look it up to see if it was as bad as I remembered, and it was worse.

Very bridge-and-tunnel

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by Anonymousreply 357September 26, 2017 9:23 PM

Linky stinky--I couldn't get the YouTube link to post properly.

Google "Carrie engagement ring Miranda" and there's a clip

by Anonymousreply 358September 26, 2017 9:26 PM

It was yellow gold. Enough said.

by Anonymousreply 359September 26, 2017 9:29 PM

Cynthia Nixon's the worst!

by Anonymousreply 360September 26, 2017 9:29 PM

Miranda's worst moment, among many, was when she met the nice couple who were interested in her for a three-way (after all three of her girlfriends had speculated they would pick someone else in that situation). The couple is pleasant and happy to see her, they want to got through with it -- and Miranda sneaks away out the door without a word, leaving them hanging (and probably as insecure as she was feeling). What. A. Cunt.

The female characters here (and on "Girls", for that matter) made me regularly so happy to be gay and away from female hetero bullshit (though it still seemed to find me from time to time).

by Anonymousreply 361September 26, 2017 11:28 PM

Miss Kim Cattrall gives a 90 seconds tour to her NY home! Good space, but it looks like a strange mix between a Mormon temple and a bordello

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by Anonymousreply 362September 27, 2017 10:36 AM

Now when I see the slo-mo shots of Carrie flouncing down the street I can only think of the multiple takes they had to do to please executive producer SJP.

by Anonymousreply 363September 27, 2017 10:52 AM

That show was absolute garbage.

by Anonymousreply 364September 27, 2017 10:57 AM

I would think gay men would've worshipped this show. As one poster above put it, 'cocks and fashion.' What else do gays ever think about?

by Anonymousreply 365September 27, 2017 10:58 AM

What irritated the shit out of me was when SJP started believing her own publicity and behaving like a starlet 'I'm ready for my close-up, Mr DeMille'. IRL, she could never be anything other than the DUFF (designated ugly funny friend). Should have stuck to her Square Pegs persona.

by Anonymousreply 366September 27, 2017 11:00 AM

Must say, I loved Jason Lewis in this. He was beautiful, inside and out.

by Anonymousreply 367September 27, 2017 11:01 AM

I remember there was a rumor that one of them would die in the first movie. That’s what the third one should be about.

by Anonymousreply 368September 27, 2017 12:30 PM

Cattrall was very public about wanting more money and bigger credits in the series' final years and the movies. SJP likely encouraged the Samantha cancer storyline to provide a potential easy exit for Samantha from the franchise.

by Anonymousreply 369September 27, 2017 12:44 PM

R362, oh my god, I just threw up in my mouth!

by Anonymousreply 370September 27, 2017 1:38 PM

If that was Miranda's worst moment R361, then that's really not that bad. These characters were supposed to be flawed. Golddigging Charlotte who was so desperate for a ring that she married a rich guy who couldn't get it up, then walked off with the Park Ave apt. that had been in his family for years. Then she was so desperate for ring #2 that she berated Harry, telling him that he was lucky to be with her and that he was ugly and people gawked at them in the street. Miranda really was not that bad and I'm not even a fan of hers.

by Anonymousreply 371September 27, 2017 2:27 PM

Clearly Kim doesn't have pets anymore. That white palace would be a mess in a week if she did.

Someone who worked on the show told my brother that Kristen Davis needed 10 takes on every scene to get it right. You can actually see her going up on lines in some shots especially long uninterrupted takes.

by Anonymousreply 372September 27, 2017 3:23 PM

Charlotte and Harry shouldn't have got back together. Should have ended the show with her being single.

by Anonymousreply 373September 27, 2017 3:30 PM

Charlotte loved him so much she converted to Judaism for him R371. I can understand her feeling under appreciated. Out of all the woman Charlotte is the one I would want.

by Anonymousreply 374September 27, 2017 4:32 PM

me too. Charlotte had all those regressive fantasies as a Park Avenue wifey but at least she was sweet and generous. The other three not so much to put it gently.

by Anonymousreply 375September 27, 2017 4:38 PM

Miranda was the most realistic and relatable, at least to me.

by Anonymousreply 376September 27, 2017 4:40 PM

Two things that always grossed me out, and I have no idea if the producers / writers meant for it to be that way:

-Carrie unable to get her diaphragm out, and Samantha bravely goes into the washroom to help her excavate it;

-After Charlotte has been locking herself in her apartment with her "rabbit" vibrator for days, the girls storm into the apartment to call a halt to it, and Charlotte hands it over to Miranda, who takes the vibrator with her bare hand and places it into her purse...unwashed.

Nasty! And I'm female!

by Anonymousreply 377September 27, 2017 5:08 PM

[quote] Someone who worked on the show told my brother that Kristen Davis needed 10 takes on every scene to get it right. You can actually see her going up on lines in some shots especially long uninterrupted takes.

I totally believe this. Davis was terrible on Melrose Place. Even Kathy Ireland out acted her. It was a shock to see her be even semi-coherent on SATC.

by Anonymousreply 378September 27, 2017 5:17 PM

The whole Charlotte and Harry storyline was unbelievable. A nice WASP girl becoming a jew for THAT jew????? No.

by Anonymousreply 379September 27, 2017 6:45 PM

R379, Charlotte was bruised by the failure of her marriage and her husband's refusal to continue with fertility treatments or consider adoption. Harry was kind.

by Anonymousreply 380September 27, 2017 7:21 PM

There's a long shot where Carrie, Miranda and Charlotte are walking down a street at night, trying to take care of a page of dialogue no doubt in one shot. Talking about Samantha becoming a lesbian with that artist. There's a huge gap after one line and then finally Charlotte chimes in and I guarantee it is Davis going up on her line, missing her cue, whatever. Probably the best they got and called it a night. Watch it.

by Anonymousreply 381September 27, 2017 7:38 PM

UIgh, I hated that lesbian story line. Samantha was too into dick to suddenly go for a woman.

by Anonymousreply 382September 27, 2017 7:41 PM

Again, one more way for Darren Starr to do gay male storylines in the guise of a female character. The vagina squirting in her face was clearly meant to be someone's experience with a dick. And her suddenly fluid sexuality choice indeed made no sense.

by Anonymousreply 383September 27, 2017 7:51 PM

The biggest sin in the first movie is Jennifer Hudson's "acting." Holy christ, if what ended up in the movie were her best takes it must have been excruciating piecing her scenes together in edit.

by Anonymousreply 384September 27, 2017 7:59 PM

[quote] The biggest sin in the first movie is Jennifer Hudson's "acting." Holy christ, if what ended up in the movie were her best takes it must have been excruciating piecing her scenes together in edit.

I asked them to cast her so I'd look better

by Anonymousreply 385September 27, 2017 8:01 PM

my very own Louis Vuitton?????

by Anonymousreply 386September 27, 2017 8:12 PM

oh yes, R378! I remember i was shocked to find K Davis passable on SATC because i remembered how dreadful she was on MP. Obviously Spelling shows were shot much faster than HBO's.

by Anonymousreply 387September 27, 2017 8:13 PM

I loved Kristin Davis' looks. In what universe would SJP end up with the all the hot guys and KD end up with Evan Handler?

by Anonymousreply 388September 27, 2017 8:16 PM

yes, KD really is lovely. Big calves and all.

by Anonymousreply 389September 27, 2017 8:21 PM

SJP has charisma R388.

by Anonymousreply 390September 28, 2017 5:36 AM

SJP was voted the LEAST SEXY WOMAN IN THE WORLD by Maxim magazine. Carrie Bradshaw didn't know how to cook a single meal. She squandered money on clothes and shoes and couldn't manage her finances. She had unpredictable temper tantrums, eg, flinging greasy fast food at her bf when he told her she wasn't invited to live with him in Paris. She behaved with integrity, ie, destroying another woman's marriage. How could she ever be seen as more than a random fuck?

by Anonymousreply 391September 28, 2017 5:47 AM

Without integrity.

by Anonymousreply 392September 28, 2017 5:47 AM

well, the fact that she was not perfect was a plus. And SJP is a very relatable actress when she's not playing "irresistible men magnet".

by Anonymousreply 393September 28, 2017 11:22 AM

Some people seem to have forgotten that it was a COMEDY series. Why ruin the fun with all the "well, that would never happen in real life!" debbie downer talk? The audience is supposed to laugh at these characters and the situational comedy first. Caring about the characters might have been intended as a bonus, if at all.

by Anonymousreply 394September 28, 2017 12:27 PM

Charlotte just wanted a rich husband. She started with the impotent WASP because that's what she knew, but settled for Harry because apparently he had a shiksa fetish. At her age, she would have converted to anything to land him. That's why she freaked out on him when he didn't propose right away. She was a total lunatic.

by Anonymousreply 395September 28, 2017 1:13 PM

And Charlotte's biological kid was ugly, I'm sorry to say. The kid that they got from China was cute, though.

by Anonymousreply 396September 28, 2017 1:14 PM

[quote]Some people seem to have forgotten that it was a COMEDY series.

it was until season four, then it became all weepy and "Dramatic".

by Anonymousreply 397September 28, 2017 1:36 PM

I tried to read the book it was based on but since it was a series of articles I didn't like that there was no plot development and didn't finish it.

by Anonymousreply 398September 28, 2017 2:29 PM

r397, how could it be considered drama with sexy Carrie Bradshaw sexying up NY with her sexy column until the bitter (un) sexy end?

by Anonymousreply 399September 28, 2017 2:56 PM

It was sort of messed up the way Harry lead Charlotte on. Like she's good enough to fuck but not marry.

by Anonymousreply 400September 28, 2017 4:16 PM

I re-watched the pilot and the whole SJP landing guys out of her league seemed apparent when Carrie was pursuing an ex, Kurt, played by the gorgeous Bill Sage. It didn't help that she was photographed in jarring close-up coming onto him, so that I was reminded of the Tootsie Cleveland line re "I'd like to make her look a little more attractive."

by Anonymousreply 401September 28, 2017 4:27 PM

[quote] Tootsie Cleveland

Was she one of the drag queens on the roof with the chickens?

by Anonymousreply 402September 28, 2017 5:19 PM

I sure hope so

by Anonymousreply 403September 28, 2017 5:46 PM

So much cringe.

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by Anonymousreply 404September 28, 2017 5:59 PM

it's like the fat slob in the sitcoms always married to a hot blonde. Carrie had a so-so face and a boy body (although many women would kill to haver her body) but snagged a lot of hot men: that's what the demo (women and gay) wanted to see. It's not a documentary.

by Anonymousreply 405September 28, 2017 6:46 PM

[quote] Carrie had a so-so face and a boy body

The last thing Carrie had was a boy body. She had ENORMOUS jugs!

by Anonymousreply 406September 28, 2017 6:49 PM

you must be joking. her tits were absolutely average.

by Anonymousreply 407September 28, 2017 6:53 PM

Those are average?

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by Anonymousreply 408September 28, 2017 6:57 PM

More average

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by Anonymousreply 409September 28, 2017 6:58 PM

well, ok... they're good. But the rest of her body is nothing

by Anonymousreply 410September 28, 2017 7:09 PM

I thought SJP looked better with the crazy blonde mane. She also wore clothes well, even though most were ridiculous. She looked much better earlier in the series with more meat on her bones and fuller hair.

by Anonymousreply 411September 28, 2017 7:10 PM

Out of the four of them Kristin Davis seems to have aged the best.

by Anonymousreply 412September 28, 2017 7:16 PM

I always thought that for Charlotte, Harry was just a rebound she took after her marriage failed. So for me it was a "holy shit!" moment when she decided to become a Jew for him. So much devotion for a guy who never intended for the fling to become actually serious. Same thing with Carrie and Mr. Big or Miranda and Steve. The only difference was Samantha and Smith Jarrod where Jarrod was all in and Samantha was just going along for the ride (the turning point was probably the cancer storyline).

by Anonymousreply 413September 28, 2017 7:30 PM

Carrie was going to bug Mr. Big to the end of time until he married her. She was such a doormat when it came to him that I could never buy her Savvy Girl in the Big City routine. He wouldn't tell her that she was the one, didn't want to introduce her to his mother, barely bothered to tell her that he was moving to Paris for work, found someone else while he was there and married her, cheated on his wife with Carrie, ditched her at their blowout wedding and humiliated her in front of everyone, sent her an email a day with someone else's poetry for a year (prob got a PA to do that, lbr), and then in SATC 2 told her that he wanted to get a separate apartment because he couldn't stand being around her 24/7.

We're still supposed to think that this is some huge love story? I'm probably forgetting a bunch of stuff, too.

by Anonymousreply 414September 28, 2017 8:06 PM

Yeah it was pretty bad R414. I was horrified to see a bunch of my friends actually CRYING tears of bittersweet joy at that ending. In fact, almost all of them seemed to find that the inevitable Happy Ending that could only be just so.

by Anonymousreply 415September 28, 2017 8:10 PM

Would've respected it more had Carrie gone on alone but happy (like Jane in "Broadcast News"). Then found someone (maybe even Mr. Big) later in the movie versions. As is, she looked like weak little girl being rescued -- after 7 seasons of telling us she was the opposite. (Of course frauen loved it since it confirmed their own choices in many ways. It's all about the man in the end).

by Anonymousreply 416September 28, 2017 8:16 PM

[quote]We're still supposed to think that this is some huge love story?

That's why I believe it never left its comedy roots, because Carrie clearly was a caricature of a needy woman who needs to tame a man who doesn't want to be tamed by her. I believe the only thing Big ever liked about Carrie is that she was so crazy about him and that gave him an ego boost every now and then. And he could get that from her even when they've broken up countless times.

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by Anonymousreply 418September 28, 2017 8:35 PM

That article is 100% bullshit. There's no way that movie was supposed to start shooting this month. There's been no announcement about anything in the trades and it's not even on IMDB Pro. There's no third film.

by Anonymousreply 419September 28, 2017 8:38 PM

Why not just kill Samantha off with the cancer they conveniently created and start SATC3 at the funeral? Surely she doesn't hold rights to the whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 420September 28, 2017 8:39 PM

Yeah she is the one character they could plausibly kill off.

by Anonymousreply 421September 28, 2017 8:42 PM

I don't believe the BS story they were ready to shoot and Kim put an end to that. They would have had everyone locked in before they got that far.

by Anonymousreply 422September 28, 2017 10:45 PM

We were willing to do a big sponsorship deal on a 3rd movie. Plenty of our product placement, as audiences would flock to see a movie about sex and 4 post-menopausal women. Are the rights to Golden Girls taken?

by Anonymousreply 423September 29, 2017 12:16 AM

Please make it stop

by Anonymousreply 424September 29, 2017 11:00 AM

R423 Those four could play Golden Girls already.

by Anonymousreply 425September 29, 2017 2:45 PM

[Quote] That's why I believe it never left its comedy roots, because Carrie clearly was a caricature of a needy woman who needs to tame a man who doesn't want to be tamed by her. I believe the only thing Big ever liked about Carrie is that she was so crazy about him and that gave him an ego boost every now and then. And he could get that from her even when they've broken up countless times.

So true.

by Anonymousreply 426October 1, 2017 6:38 PM

So no SATC 3?

by Anonymousreply 427October 3, 2017 4:17 AM

Doubt it R427

by Anonymousreply 428October 3, 2017 10:11 AM

What a coincidence that all four are available? Go ahead and kill off Samantha with her cancer and go for Season 8 on HBO, the way "Curb..." does. People would tune in, no need to worry about that pesky ageing box office thing, (It'll happen, watch).

by Anonymousreply 429October 3, 2017 8:59 PM

I saw the series when it originally aired but now re-watching episodes on DVD I find myself recoiling from the look of Carrie and Samantha, both with that blonde hair with the dark roots. Yick. Was that a trend in the 90s? It looks really tacky and ungroomed as opposed to the look of Miranda and Charlotte.

by Anonymousreply 430October 10, 2017 9:55 AM

I just watched all of season 2. The last episode has Carrie likening herself to an unbridled horse that Big could not tame, which is laughable, but also perhaps how that SJP is a horse myth started.

by Anonymousreply 431October 11, 2017 1:04 PM

LOL! R431

I’m currently rewatching and I am enjoying it more than I thought I would. It’s late 90s pre 9/11 comforting trash I guess. Carrie is increasingly insufferable though, I find the other girls become more likeable as the show goes on.

by Anonymousreply 432April 13, 2018 12:30 AM

^ exactly. As the show went on that's exactly what happened... that and Patricia Field got out of control.

by Anonymousreply 433April 13, 2018 12:33 AM

I wanna play! Which channel, please?

by Anonymousreply 434April 13, 2018 2:24 AM

a lot of the late 90s early 2000s shows did not age well. I mean Queer as Folk looks like its from a museum now.

by Anonymousreply 435June 7, 2019 10:19 PM

[quote] The last episode has Carrie likening herself to an unbridled horse that Big could not tame, which is laughable, but also perhaps how that SJP is a horse myth started.

It started somewhere else.

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by Anonymousreply 436June 7, 2019 10:27 PM

R435-Why?

by Anonymousreply 437June 7, 2019 10:53 PM

Carrie did get worse as her friends got better as the show progressed. I think that's what made Carrie's unlikability stand out to much more. Everyone else was growing up, maturing, and actually learning from their mistakes and there was Carrie - ruining any semblance of a normal relationship so that she can go pine away for Big yet again.

by Anonymousreply 438June 7, 2019 11:18 PM

R 437 because the world has changed dramatically since then. Queer as folk is a good example. When is the last time you actively go to find hookups at a bar? or go to a bathhouse? Bareback is not controversial anymore as long as you are on prep, and the exclusively gay queer space is shrinking. Marriage is legal, and no one is running off to Canada to get married now.

Sex and the City suffers from the same thing: time. Back then the show was fun: rich, carefree female professionals who have sex and talk about it. The frank and honest approach to dicks and pussies were part and parsel of the experience. Now we are past that and move on to other subjects like representation, age, weight, etc. Without SATC, Grace and Frankie or Girls or 20 other shows wouldn't exist, but thats also make SATC old by comparison.

by Anonymousreply 439June 11, 2019 10:50 PM

I actually liked the show. I found Kim Catrall the worst actress of them all. Bit too over the top for me. KD also wasn't very good. But I thought SJP was the clear standout of the cast. Yes her character was annoying but that was the point. She was sort of an amalgam of everyone...basically an everywoman. People that made comments about her having no savings and spending on clothes and shoes...most Americans have no savings and continue to charge up their cards. Yes she was a slave to love and would act neurotic and needy to get Bigs attention. But how many of you whores out there "stalk" your exes on social media and play mind games to get what you want? We all do things like that from time to time in greater or lesser degrees. That's why I loved the watching Carrie.

by Anonymousreply 440June 13, 2019 2:34 AM

R440, this is what everyone loved about her at first. She was fairly realistic in those ways, but by season 4 or 5 she started going into genuinely insane territory. We've all stalked an ex on social media or tried to get over them in the worst ways possible, but most of us eventually learn our lessons. Carrie never did. Every time you thought she'd move on from Big, she'd get roped right back in and it got annoying and made her seem mentally disturbed. By the finale, they tried to make it seem like Carrie ending up with Big was some big fairy tale happy ending, but it was a completely unrealistic groaner.

by Anonymousreply 441June 13, 2019 3:37 AM

Carrie was insufferable. I preferred Miranda and Samantha. Also this show makes me feel very old, I remember when it was new and fresh 20 years ago. It was almost revolutionary now it's tired and dated.

by Anonymousreply 442June 13, 2019 4:10 AM

I never thought Big jilted Carrie at the altar. I just thought he got stuck in traffic and was late and she threw a big ol childish fit. Am I wrong?

by Anonymousreply 443June 13, 2019 5:23 AM

No R443 he drove off from the venue as he was attacked by nerves and couldn't call her. He was on his way back after coming to his senses. Her explosion of anger was OTT

by Anonymousreply 444June 13, 2019 6:00 AM

some of you are delusional. The only people who date/marry beautiful women are hollywood actors. Look at politicians, stock brokers, or the next episode of dateline where some Connecticut yuppie pushes his wife off a cliff. These women look regular as fuck, sometimes down right homely. Most rich people, especially the working rich, marry and date for myriad of reasons. Get the fuck off of fire island for a change.

by Anonymousreply 445June 13, 2019 6:27 AM

I kept hoping there would be a big rift in Carrie and Big's marriage in Sex and the City 2. It seemed like it was building to that and re-introducing Aidan, but that movie never went above or below surface level dumbassery. That movie was, like, 5 hours long and yet it was the most boring, superficial piece of shit I've ever seen.

It would be interesting to see a movie where Carrie realizes that maybe she and Big don't belong together and happily ever after is never promised.

by Anonymousreply 446June 13, 2019 6:21 PM

[222], [230] Charlotte's father also appeared - very briefly - in an episode. Kind of blink and you'll miss it, and sort of a bizarre scene too. It's at Charlotte's first wedding where she discovers the night before that Trey has trouble getting it up. She freezes as she's about to walk down the aisle, and calls Carrie back where they have this big discussion about Trey maybe being impotent or perhaps he jerked off before he met up with Charlotte that night. Then Charlotte decides she will get married anyway, and her father steps in from right next to her. So he was just standing there listening to them talking about Trey's penis, I guess?

by Anonymousreply 447November 29, 2019 7:03 AM

[Quote] I kept hoping there would be a big rift in Carrie and Big's marriage in Sex and the City 2. It seemed like it was building to that and re-introducing Aidan,

Ehh it wouldn't have been anything new. But I did want to slap Carrie when she got mad that Big bought her a tv instead of some jewelry. Or freaking out because he wanted to stay home for once.

by Anonymousreply 448November 29, 2019 10:59 AM
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