Okay, so the photo that was released a few hours ago showing Egyptian protesters in Guy Fawkes masks that had press passes visible in the photos. Then this-
News reports have indicated that the film mocking the Prophet Muhammad, that has resulted in outrage in the Muslim world and the attack on the U.S. embassy in Libya resulting in the death of U.S. Ambassador Stevens, was made by Sam Bacile. But is there really such a person?
U.K.'s Daily Mail reports:
A search is on for the man behind the 'blasphemous' film that branded Mohammed a fraud, pedophile and a womaniser and sparked deadly protests after records apparently reveal he does not exist.
The producer, whose movie led to demonstrations that left the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other American officials dead on Tuesday, claimed he was an Israeli Jew named Sam Bacile and living in California.
But his identity began to crumble as it emerged Israeli authorities had no records of him being a citizen, and there were no property, phone, license or court records of Bacile in California.
Despite claiming he had spent $5 million on the film, he also has virtually no footprint in the Hollywood community, has no agent listed on IMDBPro and no credits on any film or TV production.
Steve Klein, a consultant for the film, told the National that Bacile is not Israeli or Jewish and is in fact working under a pseudonym - but he does not know the man's real name.
It raises questions over the real identity of the man behind the 'offensive' film and his motives for creating a movie that promised to spark outrage - and death.
He claimed the two-hour movie cost $5 million and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors, who believe the film will help his native land by exposing Islam's flaws to the world.
The film "released" into the Muslim world on 9-11 is clearly designed to enrage the Muslim world, sort of like the way the 9-11 attacks enraged many in the U.S.
And now the filmmaker turns out to be a mystery man. Very interesting.
Who translated it from English to Arabic in less than 24 hrs? Who pushed it on YouTube? Who financed it? Who are the actors?
mossad's fingerprints all over this...
No, this is too sloppy for Mossad.
The actors are identifiable and it's going to unravel. It's been less than 12 hours (in News Time) yet people are asking very dangerous questions.
Watch the media drop this story like a hot potato.
[quote]mossad's fingerprints all over this...
Right. Jews start all the wars.
Did the film show how islam really is? That usally pisses off the muzzies.
[quote]That usally pisses off the muzzies.
Please do not use religious epithets. I understand anger about recent events. But name calling makes things worse.
Why did the Egyptian protesters wear Guy Faux masks? How very "mainstream" and totally misguided of them.
As you can tell, I've been following this story today with incredulity.
Who had a motive for releasing it (and being able to ensure that it goes viral) on 9/11 and creating pretext for more intervention?
Christian activist tells Atlantic writer that Sam Bacile is a pseudonym and the man behind the name is not Israeli.
And of course the film portrays you-know-who as a homosexual because that is the absolute worst thing the hate mongering filmmaker could think of to call him.
A bigot is a bigot is a bigot.
Are Romney's people stupid enough to do this in an attempt to make history repeat - when Reagan beat Carter because of the whole Iran shitstorm?
$18 says that it is a vocal Southern Babtist behind the movie.
"Please do not use religious epithets."
Please. The more distain you give religious people, the better.
It was religion that killed those people, and it is religion that will eventually kill all of us.
s/b Baptist *I can't see what I'm typing on Safari
I just assumed you were from the south R13/15. That's the way we pronounce it down here.
Funny, R16. I read it too and didn't even notice the spelling.
[quote] Don't the $¢1ento$ have a film studio somewhere out in the SoCal desert?
Not in Santa Clarita. If they did it would be near Hemet, where they have a big presence.
He's a convicted federal felon who was ordered to stay away from computers and the internet for five years as a condition of his probation, so the Feds can take him in for parole violations. They need to do this right away.
Here's yet another thread that has some more info.
No, silly. He's a Muslim-demonizing, Jew-scapegoating Christian.
The whole "it was financed by 100 Jews" sounds like it comes from a Medieval, Eastern European folktale.
Yes R11, Muslims do think homosexuals are horrible which is why we are put to death in most Muslim countries.
Juan Cole is always on the inside track...
"But the story gets more complex. Nakoula had Coptic and evangelical associates in the shooting of the film, including Steve Klein, a former Marine and current extremist Christian who has helped train militiamen in California churches and has led “protests outside abortion clinics, Mormon temples and mosques.” My guess is that most of the Egyptian Copts involved are converts to American-style fundamentalism.
The Egyptian Coptic church has roundly condemned the hateful film they made smearing the Prophet Muhammad.
Anyway, the bigotry of the edited film, directed at Muslims, is part of a movement of religious prejudice that also targets . . . Mormons.
Mitt Romney may want to rethink his ‘visceral’ reaction to the US embassy in Cairo’s tweet condemning the group’s hate speech."
How could this be advantageous to Rove et al. when Romney went on the attack and was swiftly and roundly criticized even by those in his own party? Did Rove anticipate that Romney would play it right? That Romney would follow the lead of other past presidential candidates and keep mum about ongoing foreign crisis and back the President? And then hope the Middle East blew up? I think Rove would make sure that Romney didn't fuck up if he were behind it.
I could see Adelson's people funneling money to the shady, but stupid CA neocon Christians chomping at the bit for their cause. These two groups have mutual biblical interests (I've forgotten what they are because they were non-sensiscal when I read them, but the fundies love the Zionists). I think Rove would be much slicker and employ professionals.
I mean this Sam Bacile/Nakoula Bassesley Nakoula character was either dumber than a box of rocks or crazy like a fox. His own actions guaranteed that he would be found and found quickly. Maybe the Adelson people found the perfect patsy in him. He's a convicted felon who'd just gotten out of Federal prison, he had previously owed huge back taxes and had liens on his property and, I imagine, employment prospects weren't bright. It's hard to say what his ties to the Coptic Christian community were since he was a professional con man and they quickly disavowed him today. So, basically, he was a man adrift and he could be easily bought for the right $$$, even if it meant going back to the federal pen for parole violations.
Hahaha, on top of the bank fraud charges?! Jesus, the right wing nutters found themselves a peach!
Many men want to start a war. It's the ultimate power trip.
VICE has done some excellent work tracking down other players in the "Mohammed" film. If this was a CIA or Mossad operation using cutouts to distance themselves from the film, they have done an excellent job. You want cutouts to be so flaky that you really can't know for sure why they did anything. This sure fits this crew.
Of course, we all know Nakoula Bassely Nakoula (possibly using the alias Sam Bacile) is a former fraudster. Now VICE introduces us to Robert Alan Brown, who possibly uses the aliases Robert Brownell and Alan B. Robert. And then VICE manages to get an interview with another person involved with the film, Jimmy Israel, who was born Jewish and states that he is now "mostly" Buddhist.
If you are really bored with your life, this article will give you a reason to live another day.
Make your choice, A. the CIA/Mossad is getting good at what they do, or B. these guys are just real fruitcakes. That is gets dubbed into Arabic on 9-11 suggests choice A.
So, the producer was a government stooge-
From WIRED mag-
"In recent days, we’ve learned that Nakoula used 14 different aliases — including “P.J. Tobacco” and “Kritbag Difrat” — in a complex check kiting scheme. We’ve learned that Nakoula was sentenced to 21 months in federal custody for the affair. According to The Smoking Gun, Nakoula was released from the the United States Penitentiary in Lompoc, California in September, 2010. He spent the following nine months in and out of a halfway house in Long Beach. Unnamed officials tell ABC News he wrote the script for the film, which depicts the prophet Muhammad as a thug and a child molester, while in prison.
"The punishment was relatively gentle, even though it wasn’t Nakoula’s first encounter with the law. That’s because Nakoula had decided to become a federal informant.
“I am sorry for what happened. Now I know it was wrong. I decide to cooperate with the government to retrieve some of those mistakes,” Nakoula told Judge Christina Snyder in June of 2010, according to a sentencing transcript obtained by The Smoking Gun."
I noticed how Clinton refused to acknowledge that this film was the alleged spark for Benghazi.
These people are evil. Obama, Bohner, Cantor, Clinton...they are all just shills for the new Nazi party, USA style.
r59 you're crazy dude. What is it like to live in your mind so full of conspiracy theories. Get out of your mind and back to reality.
Let me guess, you're a 9-11 truther.