Is there a difference? Or is Scruff just essentially Grindr for bears?
I think Scruff was originally intended to be a Grindr for the bear community but there is no difference between them now.
I've since deleted both apps, but it was frustrating to see the exact same guys on both.
So both are just another hook up system?
Huge difference between them: Scruff lets you know who has been looking at your profile.
Scruff has a lot more functionality with the free version, and generally just works better, is more stable, and actually let's you know when you have messages. Grindr does a poor job of notifying you when you have messages. The guys are basically the same on both apps, but I think scruff is supposed to be more for guys who don't mind some facial hair... Not necessarily bears (that's what growlr is for.)
The bears seem to favor Growlr these days over Scruff.
I've had hotter hookups from Scruff than Grindr. And I agree it's a lot more stable than Grindr is and doesn't crash nearly as much.
Jack'd isn't too bad, and I've had some hot hookups from there too.
Unlike Grindr, Scruff and Jack'd also have better ways to filter your searches too.
Scruff's expensive if you actually want the app to do anything. Growlr also lets you see who's viewed you. You can also delete messages without having to open them if you don't like the guy's looks.
R2's is one of the funniest posts in a long time.
Get Grindr if you want HIV
Get Scruff if you want full-blown AIDS
That's insane, r10. Grindr is syphillis and herpes, Scruff is crabs.
Whatever happened to tea rooms and pickle parks?
What site should you use if you actually want a date?
None, R13. They're all hook up sites, now. Maybe Compatible Partners, but it's a bit of a pain.
One thing better about Scruff: if you have it on an iPhone and iPad, they are linked up. Wth Grindr, if you write something on one device, it doesn't show up on the other device. Makes things confusing.
If you want to date, go on the site and say in your profile, I'm looking to date. There are plenty of guys who say explicitly that they'd like to find someone to date. Some of them may be open to a hookup too, or they may be lying, but not all of them. Just go look and decide for yourself.
In general I'd say the guys on Scruff are much clearer and more open about what they want. (Also, Scruff skews older than Grindr.)
Jack'd is best, at least for my interests. The dudes on Jack'd tend to be buffer (hence the name), more athletic, more masculine, and more attractive. There are a lot more real athletes, military, and bi dudes on Jack'd, which is what I seek. It also has more cleancut dude-next-door jock types.
That sounds revolting, r17.
Maybe to you, but it is the popular preference More importantly, it is my preference.
I'm so glad I'm not single any more. Or should I say, I'm glad I'm in a monogamous relationship. I had to clarify that, because I'm tired of seeing my married facebook friend's continuous posts about himself and his new boyfriend (who is not his husband). Has he no shame?
[quote]What site should you use if you actually want a date?
"more masculine". ugh. i flinch every time I see this sort of internally homophobic language.
Does Scruff have a website, or can you only access it as an app on a device like an iPhone?
Scruff is app-only.
The websites are Manhunt (PNP bareback whores), Gaydar (Brit sluts), PlanetRomeo (German nudists), and Adam4Adam (poor people).
Grindr is useless and populated by idiots. Scruff marginally better. Jack'd sucked. Haven't used Bendr yet.
[quote]There are a lot more real athletes, military, and bi dudes on Jack'd, which is what I seek.
Are you one of those self-loathers who posts for bi/married/str8 on CL?
[quote]Scruff is app-only.
Oh thank god, I dreaded having to look at profiles on my giant 27 inch monitor.
Scruff has the guys who don't take 4 showers every day.
Grindr has the guys who shriek if anyone over 23 sends them a message.
All those apps are interchangeable nowadays. You just have to realize and acknowledge where you lie on the gay socio-attractive hierarchy. A vast majority (sorry - just being honest) are looking for those at the upper echelon of the totem pole - white,insanely fit, 24-37 with a professional job even though they themselves might not be so.
I, a mid 30's gym-going but average looking mixed minority (asian-latino) who has a job in a family business doing retail, know where I stand. I'm not bitter or anything, nor wishing that I be amongst those qualities that are aforementioned nor wishing that I attain one of those either. I'm just keenly aware of gaydom's culture.
R29 You sound nice and together. A real catch in my book.
Catch as catch can
Scruff skews somewhat older, hairier, more hipsterish. Profiles allow more textual info so you get a better sense of those who take the time to fill them out. The pool is fairly diverse and the vibe is more laid back.
Grindr skews younger and more "gay scene". Grindr also seems to have more closet cases/downlow, headless torsos or indecipherable profile photos. Less diversity and more of a "lets hookup right now" vibe.
Which ones allow X-pics?
Neither, R34, although you can trade any pics you want with individual people.
Scruff used to be for more bearish types, but now most the boys on Grindr have migrated over to Scruff. Maybe they think it makes them look more butch? I don't know. As a bear, I've moved to Growlr and made the most connections ever (and yes, my profile says I'm there for dates). Vive la difference!
Growlr is for the bears
Scruff was never for bears, it was for men with facial and/or body hair. Growlr is for bears. The two groups overlap but they are nowhere near synonymous. Plenty of hairy otters are not bears, plenty of fat or beefy guys are not hairy. Lots of bearded twinks and hipsters on Scruff would never ever be described as "bears".
r19 bi dudes are only the popular preference of other bi dudes (read: guys with girlfriends/wifes).
Scruff is available on Lumia phones (WP8), unlike Grindr.
Scruff has better interactions... letting you know who viewed your profile, and letting you "woof" at people.
Scruff isn't available on older iPhones. In my city, Grindr is now almost entirely 18 year-olds and non-English speakers.
Grindr has been abandoned for the other apps in my town: scruff, Growlr, Mister, hornet
Rumor has it grindr is going to make you register so they can weed out the bots
scruff gets me laid. grindr, not so much.
R43, that's good, they really have it bad.
Anyone know if its worth paying for the extra features on Jack'd? I would like to be able to look at profiles anonymously on occasion, and I was wondering if that feature actually works. Thanks
Paying for something tha tis usually free is silly
On Scruff you can search profiles that are not near you. You can search by city or zip code.
On Grindr, you can only look at the profiles that are in close proximity to you. I like this better, more privacy. I don't want people from all over the world to be able to see my profile.
[quote]Huge difference between them: Scruff lets you know who has been looking at your profile.
This is what led to the downfall of Friendster and why Facebook has vowed to NEVER let people see who has viewed their profile. It would turn everyone into neurotics and trying to create fake accounts just for browsing.
[quote]But regions differ. Yes I have all five apps
What are the five apps?
Scruff, you are a bottom
Grindr, you are a top
Why do they all have silly names?
What if a gay guy wants to hook up with a woman? Where would one they go for that?
Jack'd is so much better and somewhat classier. More masculine and athletic dudes are on Jack'd
Slap'd is a good one too
Jack'd has TONS of young black guys. If that's your scene
R53, there's no such thing as a gay guy who wants to hook up with a woman, just as there's no such thing as a straight guy who wants to hook up with another guy.
The term you're looking for is "bisexual".
What about squirt.org? Works pretty well for me.
R16= queen of self de-nile!
I had a lot of luck with Grindr when it first came out, but I generally do better on Scruff these days. As others have said, it skews older. Twinks looking for daddies use it, as well as daddies looking for daddies. So whatever I'm in the mood for, it works out.
Before any of these apps existed, there was WhosHere. Not specifically a gay-oriented app, but you could specify your own gender and filter by the gender of choice, so it worked just as well. I met a ton of guys on WhosHere (well, a ton by the standards of the early days of the App Store).
It still exists but is almost entirely populated by guys in the Middle East spoofing their location. It's the Friendster or MySpace of hookup apps.
[quote] Or is Scruff just essentially Grindr for bears?
Nope. Growlr is for bears.
Who cares? They're both for whores, darlin'.
I hadn't heard of Growlr, just signed up, it's an interesting mix, at least for my area.
I use Growlr mainly.
I'm loving the new lesbian hook-up app Muffstr.
It has a new feature where you can 'honk your U-Haul truck horn' at people.
Growlr is good to find bears and chasers, but the app itself isn't nearly as good as Scruff's or Mister's (search feature is bugged and can't be saved, won't work on iPad / no iPad version.)
Hopefully that will be fixed in the months ahead.
I hope so too, it's the type that I prefer
The men on Growlr are more or less bearish depending on one's location. In some places it's mostly great big large men, in others those same men are in the minority; in some places it's bears and cubs and otters and all their lingo, in others the men are much less concerned about "bear culture."
Scruffy types make me hard
These apps are all really just digital gay bars. Only difference is there's nothing to drink.
Right on point r78! Mad props to the real gay bars that still do enough business to at least break even.
LOL @ r72
Hello guys. I have a question. If I don't have a scruff profile I can still browse. When I check out profiles, do they get a notification? Like unknown user, area ...
The people on both are likely to have STDs.
I don't know if it's a problem across the board, but on my Android phone they crash each other. If I have Scruff in the background and start Grindr, I get a pop-up saying that Scruff has stopped working, and vice versa.
I haven't tried scruff but I have tried:
Grindr: The App doesn't stay running in the background. Yet is the most fun.
Jackd: The opposite! Won't let me close the damn app nor does it even show up in the running apps list (grounds for immediate removal)
Hornet: Worked pretty good when first installed back in early 2013 but now it does not work even after update. Or maybe it does work but nobody ever sends me a message.
I've had the best luck with Grindr. The most users. Unfortunately it does appear to be mostly extremely desperate bottoms and children who want to promote their social media like instagram and get more followers.
I get such a kick out of those. Some 18-21 year old will send me a message. I'll look at their profile and it will be covered in links to their social media with tons of cockteasing pictures. So I reply back "are you horny" and I get a reply like "yes" or "a little" and then I bombard them with "ok it says you're a bottom and I'm a top so lets get together!"
"are you still there?"
"still horny? I am so horny!"
They annoy the shit out of me. The headless horsemen annoy the shit out of me. The messages in spanish annoy the shit out of me.
JAck'd doesn't seem to have that problem but it does have a lot of the same people. More people looking for dates than just hookups. It's a shame that the app won't give me the option to close it.
Something that I do really enjoy doing with the apps is going to a gay bar and opening up grindr and jack'd and finding people who are literally in the same bar. Grindr is the best for that because it measures the distance in feet and not miles.
IS there an app where a big fat ass guy with a giant cock can fuck hot muscular guys?
R85 is a sex addict
R86 - only if rentboy.com has an app
LOL. Mean! True tho...
Sometimes I think that the guys who are successful on these kind of sites are the lucky ones and end up happier in the long run... Food for thought I'll put on the back burner while I find my next ego boost from 1s and 0s. Here's a thought, what if sleazy motels and I don't bookstores had to coordinate meetings? Then everyone can just have all the same STDs, no one will commit to anyone else and will be one big mindless joke till we wake up at 60 or older with nothing worth anything to remember about our lives. Just came here cuz I was googling "free scruff activation code"... Sigh.
Technology is my (our) downfall, and yet I saturate myself in it, learn it, crave it, and make my living helping fix it when it breaks.
EDIT: those who are NOT successful are the lucky ones...
You're all whores.
I posted r85. and I have since tried scruff and jack'd. I must say I prefer both of those over hornet and grindr. But I regret to inform you that I am about to uninstall all of the apps because they're all a waste of time.
The week before last I had some cop try to lure me to a prostitution sting operation in a hotel from Jack'd. There are no gay men in their 30's where I live and whenever one pops up they're usually smokin' hot and have the same interests. I message them and they message back and I get all excited then.... then they mention they are passing through and going back home to NYC or Miami in a couple of days at which point I throw every object I can reach that isn't nailed down and throw it at the wall. I can't take any more of that heartbreak and I'm tired of wasting time sexting with twinks who just want to promote their goddamn instagram like I give two fucks about that. So annyways, back to the drawing board.
I would be afraid to meet anyone from either app. Those apps are infected with people with STDs, insanity, criminal pasts, and all manner of creepiness.
Do people use grindr just for gym hookups?
[quote]IS there an app where a big fat ass guy with a giant cock can fuck hot muscular guys?
Does Scruff still key you see who's been looking at your profile ?
Here's the irony - I am 51 and a bear. I get hit on more on Grindr by young guys, than I do on Mister. In fact, I never find sex on Mister.
In Australia, I find Grindr to be full of hairless torsos, and judgmental twinks. Where with Scruff the guys seem more down to earth and real.
Scruff is even more revolting and STD-infested than Grindr. And that's saying a lot dude.
[quote]What if a gay guy wants to hook up with a woman?