No one really cares about Lana. We should, instead, embrace Adele.
I agree with r1. Adele is the real deal.
Adele is a fat slag.
She is an engineered act - not much authentic about the creation.
Adele is a natural talent.
Lana had a rich daddy who bought her a career. She's basically a product of studio wizardry and stylists, like 99% of current pop acts. Her SNL appearance exposed her for being talentless.
I give Lana Del Rey's stylist points for reviving backcombing, but unfortunately her hair is the most interesting thing about Lana.
My guess that she will be acknowledged with a number of Grammy noms, which will in turn re-ignite American interest in her. She should get a Best New Artist nom, as well as one for her "Blue Jeans" video.
Having said that, the next album's performance is crucial for her, as well as for her new pal, Lady Gaga. The camera shutter window for fame closes faste than ever in the twitter era. Here today, gone this second.
Her moment has passed. She won't tour, so that severely limits her shelf life.
The latest I heard, Lana has been having dinner meetings with Harvey Weinstein about writing films. (Bet she had to blow him like Gwynnie.) She's on a track like Drew Barrymore and Gwyneth - wealth and connections leading to a Hollywood career.
when she's good
The gays want their icons to suffer for their fame. This bitch got handed her career by her rich daddy.
I like how in Britain we just focus on the music and understand that pop is a manufactured confection.
Her music and voice are both awful. Her face is fucked up via plastic surgery. And she's one of those rich people who can't transcend her wealth and privilege in order to become a true artist.
She is heinous as evidenced by her very dead, soul-less eyes.
I'm just not interested in Lana. She's too contrived.
I thought she was amazing on Saturday Night Live.
Video Games is still one of the best songs in ages. The album not so much. And the Del Rey bag by Mulberry is fab.
She belongs with Lena Dunham on the list of manufactured hype foisted upon everyone by publicity teams.
I disagree. Her music is terrific; she's a co-songwriter and not just a voice. Besides, her voice is terrific. I really like the album.
Pitting one female singer against another, as though there's only one place for a woman in an industry, is sexist and ridiculous.
When will the gays embrace Lana Del Rey?
When she develops some talent.
I cannot listen to her because she can't sing. She does not have a good voice, not even a good 'quirky' voice. It's just a bad voice.
[quote]The gays want their icons to suffer for their fame. This bitch got handed her career by her rich daddy.
Whad you, whad you tawking abououout?
Sorry, but she has one deadly quality - she's really, really boring.
No, we won't, OP. She sucks, and she's dating Axl Rose.
Since her daddy bought her career and now learning she is dating Axl Rose, I am ashamed to admit that like Radio Games. oh well.
Anyone who saw her horrific performance on SNL last year knows she has no voice, no talent, no chance.
She has about as much soul as a Big Mac.
[quote]I like how in Britain we just focus on the music and understand that pop is a manufactured confection.
Eh, that's fine. But her music is awful, and she always looks like she just whiffed a fart.
She's awfully boring, agreed. And I also agree that I love Adele.
Wow, I find these responses quite refreshing given how much the under 25 crowd worships her as some breath of fresh air in the music industry. I'll admit I like some of her music, reminds me of Felt Mountain era Goldfrapp, but the contrived image and packaging of her whole act like she were some barbie doll is just too off putting. It seems Interscope has developed some new meme/internet guerrilla style marketing where they try to push an artist who hasn't paid their dues and create some aura of performance credit (Lady Gaga and her downtown clubs, Lana Del Rey and the Brooklyn scene, now Azealia Banks). It's not to say these women aren't talented but there's something to their marketing that asks the buyer to focus on prepackaged aesthetics over music.
For what it's worth, I wouldn't compare Adele and Lana except that its common knowledge the success of 21 is what made the head honchos at Interscope even consider backing Lana, much like Lily Allen and Katy Perry.
R32 is nowhere near as smart as she thinks she is.
I will embrace Lana Del Rey when she learns to sing.
Or as a friend of mine said after hearing this Boy George version of "Video Games":
"I finally figured out that the reason I don't like Lana Del Rey is Lana Del Ray."
R33, I agree. R32 is smoking crack. Not only do Adele and Lana Del Rey have nothing in common but as someone who likes both Lana Del Rey's record and Goldfrapp's Felt Mountain (and other releases) they sound absolutely nothing alike.
The character of Lana Del Rey is a pretty good invention; she's that over-heated, over-sexed suburban teenage Lolita whose mind is a product of disposable American pop culture and consumerism who equates success with fame and probably daydreams about pursuing it for it's own sake. She fucks all the boys - the only power she has - and probably believes she loves them all intensely, especially when they're fucking her. She pits her suitors against each other, unknowingly, to heighten her own satisfaction and has just enough self-awareness to understand the cards she's been dealt in this culture. Will she ever break out of her entrapment? Perhaps not and her knowledge of this is what fills her with a sense of doom and an immediate pursuit of pleasure that she cannot deny herself.
Why don't the American gays like Lana Del Rey? Probably because they're more shallow that she is.
Does she have a hand in writing her songs? I actually really like her album mostly due to the lyrics in the songs. I don't think most people on here have actually listened to the album and just going by what they think is on there. Image aside, the music and the words really stand up.
that's absolutely absurd, r35. if anything, people who would fall for such a talentless, fabricated mess of a performer are the shallow ones.
I couldn't have said it better r35. She is a construct, a performance piece and she boldly embraces her role. Good for her.
The NME has a few choice words about her latest attempts at "edginess"
To clarify, my comparison between BTD and Felt Mountain wasn't so much about their sound rather than their affect (60's/moody, cinematic score) and reception in the mainstream. I guess I was approaching the comparison more from a marketing stand point, same with the Adele comparison. You see, that's how label heads think - when a certain tempo/production style/aesthetic becomes popular labels are in a mad dash to copy the formula.
I have to agree with R36 and R37, the fact that as a culture we've delved into judging a musician by their ability to step into the shoes of the 'construct' their AR teams have developed for them and not their music is why I find Lana so underwhelming. People are waking up to fake buzz artists like Lana; she would have done better to have kept doing small venue performances and built real musical skills rather than chopping up her face and signing with interscope.
I'm not trying to be 'smart' (I actually laughed at that comment), if anything I'm just spewing out a bunch of psuedo disconnected thoughts trying to piece together why I feel Lana hasn't caught fire like her team wants her to.
R40, you really have no idea how the music business works.
R40, that was the dullest post on record. I'm actually angry at myself for reading the whole thing.
I really like Lana. There is something about her voice that captivates me. I like her whole retro look as well. I don't know much about her as a person, but I remember reading that she lived in a trailer park, (and she said that's why she couldn't have afforded plastic surgery). Or am I wrong?
I really don't get the hype about Adele. When I listen to her songs it sounds like she isn't hitting the notes porperly.
She's a phony.
Well you know you are doing something interesting if David Lynch embraces you.
When she learns how to sing by perhaps taking some lessons
Totally fake and forced on us. There is nothing in her dead eyes and trout lips for us.
She's the most awful thing that ever happened to the music scene.
Eyes are the mirror of the soul. Her dead eyes remind me of that quote from Election: "You might think it upset me that Paul Metzler had decided to run against me, but nothing could be further from the truth. He was no competition for me, it was like apples and oranges. I had to work a little harder, that's all. You see, I believe in the voters. They understand that elections aren't just popularity contests. They know this country was built by people just like me who work very hard and don't have everything handed to them on a silver spoon. Not like some rich kids who everybody likes because their fathers own Metzler Cement and give them trucks on their 16th birthday and throw them big parties all the time. No, they don't ever have to work for anything. They think they can just, all of a sudden, one day out of the blue, waltz right in with no qualifications whatsoever and try to take away what other people have worked for VERY, VERY hard for their entire lives! No, didn't bother me at all!"
Her music bores me, her voice is ver annoing, she tries too hard, she should go away.
Please Lana go away
I really love four of her songs. They make me shiver. If she was focused on singing songs like that, she would be a fuckin' star.
Her career was tanked when she did SNL without being known. If she had come on and killed it she would be a superstar but instead everyone was asking "who is she fucking?"
I hadn't thought about her at all until someone restarted this year olf thread.
You are all ignorant and slow.
You are shallow and trivial people. It's frustrating. You send threads with bare asses and penises and you have no idea about soul searching. You deserve your doom.
R41 and R42 are acting like stupid bullies.
I love some of her songs. I listen to them constantly.
She can’t sing live, though.
Not as slow as you, R55, failing to tell us the NAMES of the four songs you really love.
r57 which makes her no different than those other plastic enhanced manufactured non-singing live popstars like Beyonce, Katy Perry, Rihanna and the like that are being forced upon us.
Lol R58, alright i will tell, if that really matters to you.
Born to Die (It's incredibly beautiful. The title may be pompous for some people, but the song is really awesome and soulful. It can give chills)
Dark Paradise(Demo Version)
Guys, don't judge Lana by her looks. It's unfair.
I wonder why Adele is more popular than Lana Del Rey. The only song that i like from Adele is Skyfall , all the rest end up really boring and whiny in a annoying way.
R56 = 24-year-old art chick grad student who wears dorky hats and thinks she's "edgy," who will also be embarrassed in 20 years that she ever liked Lana Del Rey.
R62, you are insane...
R62 is 100% correct. You Lana fans will be cringing at yourselves in a few years for liking her shitty "music". Bitch is the biggest poseur out there.
r35, that was far too astute an analysis to be wasted on an internet message board. That was the most intelligent take on Lana I've ever read and makes perfect sense.
R62 and R64 is the same person i bet. I detect the same bigotry and insanity.
Fuckers, you are so shallow that you judge poor Del Rey by her tacky clothes and her sour mug. Her voice and a number of her songs are incredibly good. You are too anal to be fair in your critic as it seems...
I agree she is fake, but fake or not, Video Games is one utterly gorgeous and compelling track, beautifully odd, sparse and mysterious retro coolness. I think she fluked the song, but nonetheless it as awesome song.
R68, i totally agree with you. Video Games is a very beautiful song.
OP, you really are into archaic stereotypes, dude.
It's official: The gays LOVE her. And she loves them! Lana is the real deal. Watch any video on YouTube of her interacting with her fans and it's obvious.
I like most of her stuff. Sure she's manufactured - show me a pop star who isn't. No, she can't sing live, but I only care about the studio versions anyway. I'm not a rabid fan - I just appreciate the fact that she's doing something a little different, and she seems like a genuinely nice person even if she did get famous on daddy's dime.
You can keep Adele. Her music is the epitome of boredom. I'd rather have Amy Winehouse back.
LDR is a complete poser.
She's talent-free with a rich father and a good publicist.
Still a nothing.
How can ANYONE like this talentless bitch? HORRIBLE voice. She sounds bad enough on the studio versions but live she is a joke. I can't believe gays have such bad taste. Stan for talented singers at least, phags. Seriously.
Hater on line 75!
I love her to the end of time.
Being a technically good singer doesn't mean much in the pop world. Lana was influenced by Nancy Sinatra, who was no diva but her records are still wonderfully fun to listen to, 40 years on. Celine Dion is technically a good singer, so they say, but I'd rather put icepicks through my eardrums than listen to her rubbish "music."
With Lana, it's about the material and a particular atmosphere rather than her vocal abilities. Katy Perry, Britney, and Madonna can't sing, either, and their music is flavor-of-the-month stuff written by committee. Gaga can sing, but she spends more energy ripping off Leigh Bowery, Bowie and Klaus Nomi than writing decent songs. They are ALL manufactured.
I don't know how I ever lived without LDR in my life. It's like I'm alive for the first time...like I'd been in a coma all those years & didn't even know it. She makes me feel alive.
cannot tolerate her at all.
I hate that it's become "normal" now in the music business for talentless non-singers to succeed. Lana sucks big time. Nancy Sinatra did too.
It's pathetic how so much of the public would rather listen to these ear-sores than people who can hold notes.
You cannot tell me this song doesn't give you an eargasm...
Ugh, I tried to listen to Video Games just now... that voice is AWFUL! And her face is hideous.
If they haven't, they won't.
[quote]Video Games is still one of the best songs in ages. The album not so much. [I]And the Del Rey bag by Mulberry is fab[/I].
[quote]I don't know how I ever lived without LDR in my life. It's like I'm alive for the first time...like I'd been in a coma all those years & didn't even know it. She makes me feel alive.
It's usually more the opposite.
Live for her...thanks
Gods and monsters
Guilty of liking 'Summertime Sadness'.
Lana Del Rey is an offense to music. She's as horrible as Shitney Spears and Ke$ha.