How do they get their email or Google something? Isn't texting harder?
My brother has a flip phone. He's a self-avowed Luddite who refused to even *buy* a cell phone until he had his first kid three years ago. He has one of those pay-as-you-go things that doesn't have a monthly charge, and uses it as little as possible. He doesn't give a shit about texting and doesn't see the point of doing it vs. just giving someone a call or sending them an e-mail. He'd still have the same 25" Sony Trinitron CRT TV our mom bought him when he went to college (in 1992) if she hadn't given him and his wife a 42" flatscreen as a present last year.
I don't even have a cell phone! I don't need one, as I have no friends. I'm also not on Facebook. Anyone who does have a cell phone or is on Facebook is fucking idiot!
typical DL eldergay
My bf went back to his motorola razor flip phone. Texting is a pain but he likes a smaller phone.
Not having to pay for a data plan would be nice too.
I haven't upgraded to a smart phone yet. I do feel somewhat embarrassed texting the old fashioned way. Not a flip phone though. Very small.
I see lots of people with flip phones. NBD.
Gee, OP, some of us can actually live without mobile emails and texting! What a concept! My flip cell is used for very short conversations and emergencies. A lot cheaper that way, too.
I hope you punched and deleted, OP.
The Voice of the Night
Actually, anyone with a cell phone, or who is on Facebook IS an idiot.
I have a prepaid flip phone, which of course is just for calls. I have an iPod Touch and a MiFi if I want to access anything online when on the go. For me, the combination is cheaper, especially because I use the MiFi for multiple devices (iPod, iPad, laptop) with just one data plan to cover all of them.
R9 doesn't even have a TV!
OK, she does, and it's only for her soaps. And TCM. And the shopping channels.
I have a flip phone b/c I can handle not being attached to the internet 24/7 and texting is stupid. A 20 minute texting session can be accomplished in a 3 minute phone conversation.
If I need to take a picture I can. I can't make it look like it was taken in 1974 or distort people's faces like a funhouse mirror. I can get coverage pretty much everywhere and I don't have to charge my phone half the day. I can drop it in the toilet, leave it on the roof the car and drive off and pretty much beat the shit out of it.
When I lose it, I get a free one. This is the longest I've ever talked about it, I notice everyone with a smartphone spends at least 30 minutes talking about it at parties, that is when their face isn't in it.
Friends rag on me for it but these are shallow people who rather than drive a shitty car and use a shitty flip phone live with their parents and lease a BMW. But I'm pathetic b/c I paid 20 bucks for my phone 4 years ago.
R11, R9 has a big old TV, that was given to me from someone buying the latest expensive unnecessary TV. I have no cable, and only use the TV to watch DVDs (usually Criterion, European films, docs, or the odd quality indie!)
[quote]My bf went back to his motorola razor flip phone. Texting is a pain but he likes a smaller phone.
I refuse to part with mine. It even still says "Cingular" on the back. It works fine and I'm still on AT&T's 400 anytime, unlimited weekend & nights with rollover for $39.
Can't beat it. If I want to talk to you, I'll call you. Fuck texting. It's annoying and people rarely have anything important to say via text anyway.
I'dont have a cell phone or the Facebook and I'm not poor.
[quote]I notice everyone with a smartphone spends at least 30 minutes talking about it at parties, that is when their face isn't in it.
I've seen variations on this subject -- friends talking incessantly about their smartphones -- repeatedly on DL. Is it just one person saying it over and over again, or is this actually a common phenomenon? I'm a pretty social person, and I don't recall ever having a conversation at a party about a smartphone except back when AT&T's network was overloaded and everyone was getting dropped calls and little-to-no data service thanks to iPhone users.
I do have one friend who is RABIDLY anti-Apple and anti-Facebook (and consequently rabidly PRO-Google, even when they do shit like massive privacy invasions that he'd normally get pissed off about). He'd probably get along well with the posters on this thread, except that he detests gossip. Also like many of DL's weekend-poster coterie, he's a total hot mess, with sexual dysfunctions (can't last more than 30 seconds during intercourse without ejaculating, according to his ex, who happens to be a closer friend of mine), often-severe depression, an addiction to both video games and online poker, as well as pot, and problems with money so severe that he frequently resorts to payday loans even though he makes a solid living working for the state government.
OP, I must congratulate you: brava on the perfect timing on the posting of this thread, on a Saturday night when the worst of DL's weird anti-social queens come out of the woodwork and Webbie is off at Fire Island or in the Hamptons. Flip phones vs. smartphones vs. having cell phones period is a DL classic meme that never goes out of style, as I'm sure you know.
I love flip phones for talking on the phone. They're a little longer when open and a little more comfortable to hold. And, they're nice and compact in your pocket.
But, obviously the screen size is small for the web and other apps, and texting is a pain.
So, no I don't have one, but if I was only using my cell phone for talking on the phone, I'd definitely have one.
I have a flip phone as well, just because I am a total procrastinator. I want to get a smart phone, and likely will in the coming weeks. I admit I'm a bit apprehensive at times to pull out my old ass phone when I'm in public.
I hate Apple and loathe Facebook with a passion greater than r16's friend. I don't text. Not at all. Not ever. If I want to communicate with someone, I will call. That's what the phone is for. If they can't deal with that, they lose. If I want my email, I use my computer. If I'm not in front of my computer, the email and anything else on the internet will wait. The telephone is the only thing necessary for immediate communication in case of an emergency. None of the rest of the crap you can do on a smartphone is necessary.
R16, it's the first time I've ever mentioned the people obsessed with their phones talking at parties. "What's your plan, do you have a droid, iphone, etc, did you know Apple uses slave labor? Have you seen this app, what about this app my friend invented this app, do you get coverage in this suburb, do you remember this version of the iphone, have you seen this youtube video, don't you hate autocorrect etc etc."
[quote] I want to get a smart phone, and likely will in the coming weeks.
Wait a month; the new iPhone will be introduced the third week of September, and as usual will raise the bar higher than ever in terms of smartphone technology. The Samsung Galaxy III S is currently "top dog," but the iPhone should top it.
Aren't those little phones mostly used for infidelity nowadays?
Is the new iPhone going to finally master GPS/turn-by-turn directions like an android phone.
Yeah, I know you can get apps that are pretty good. But, the Android/Google maps directions/GPS is so seamless and great. I was always surprised that my iPhone would be so far behind in this regards.
[iPhone owner, waiting for raging defensiveness about insulting the iPhone.]
[quote]I hate Apple and loathe Facebook with a passion greater than R16's friend.
Of course you do. How else would you maintain your superiority complex if you deigned to use the same technology employed by the masses?
Yes, R24. Btw it's Google's fault, not Apple's, that the iPhone doesn't have a native GPS/navigation function built into the iPhone's Google Maps feature. Fortunately it will soon be replaced by Apple's own map app, developed in-house, that includes voice navigation; it'll be part of iOS 6, which will debut around the same time as the next iPhone.
I don't have a cell phone or a Facebook account and my life is a non-stop fucking party.
Heard of the inverse relationship between wealth and the number of things you carry on your person … ?
When I was in the Navy, we would be at sea for 110 days at a time with no phone access outside the ship. I just got out of the phone habit and never picked it up again. I have a landline phone that I may use 2 or 3 times a month. Being at sea also got me out of the TV habit.
[quote]Heard of the inverse relationship between wealth and the number of things you carry on your person?
No, but the wealthiest person I know -- a billionaire -- has a wallet, watch and smartphone on him at all times. Which describes most of the men I know, except maybe for the watch.
How fucking old are you people? My friends won't even answer their phones anymore, it's all texting.
[quote]When I was in the Navy, we would be at sea for 110 days at a time with no phone access outside the ship.
Was this back in the '60s or something? All modern Navy ships have wireless broadband Internet throughout the ship, and crew are encouraged to Skype with their families and loved ones in their off-duty hours.
No, r31, it wasn't in the '60s or something. It was in the 90s.
R24 R26 and R22 are the kinds of conversations I'm talking about. Now, please, show us some artfully posed pictures of your feet overlooking the beach. You know how every 60s and 70s sitcom has a joke about people being subjected to boring slide shows at parties? Well now they're tiny. And portable!
You must have seen me, OP. I hardly ever use my mobile. I have a land line, too. Not much for texting, though I like corresponding via email. And, of course, I love meeting friends for coffee.
I am so ready for the Iphone 5!
[quote] It's annoying and people rarely have anything important to say via text anyway.
Missed his mother texting: "Goodbye son, the building if collapsing." on 9/11/01
So is Apple seeing as they can no longer sell the iPhone4
I am so ready for people to STOP calling it the "iPhone 5." It will be the SIXTH iPhone, idiots. The 4S was supposed to be called the iPhone 5. Finally, if anything it'll most likely either be called the iPhone 4G -- now that it is likely to have full-spectrum LTE-network capabilities on all the major wireless networks -- or possibly, in the vein of the iPad, simply "the new iPhone."
Nice try, R36, but texting was virtually unheard of in the U.S. back in 2001, and almost no one had a SMS plan or phones with texting ability. It was popular in Europe and Asia by then, but hadn't yet migrated stateside.
I'm getting myself a pager
Bomb, bomp, bomp, bomp
Flip phone a brand new phone you can own
Try it and you'll never go back
I notice on some tv crime/detective shows, cops still use flip phones. Is that true IRL? Do PDs issue flip phones to cops for work? How droll
Just because your ass wasn't at the forefront of technology doesn't mean everyone else was not.
I texted in 2001 and if you didn't you're just a loser with a Samsung and a Zune.
I'm right there with your brother, R1.
I have a flip phone. What's the problem? Of course, when I want to text, I have to stop what I am doing and stand off to the side to send it. Of course, I'm not thoughtlessly stopping dead in my tracks, oblivious to those around me. Who cares if I'm standing in their way, right? OMG, Biff just sent the funniest text and I HAVE to respond ASAP.
I have a flip phone. Partly it is because I am too lazy to make a decision on plan, partly because I don't want to spend that much money a month, when my current phone costs about 7 dollars a month, and in a large part because I spend too much time surfing the web as it is. If I got a smart phone I can see myself always checking the internet regardless of where I am. So basically I am indecsive, lazy, cheap, and an internet additct...
I have a GO flip phone. I text rarely. I'm not on Facebook or Twitter. I have a good job; I'm successful at it. and I just don't have any desire to walk around with a phone.
I like my flip phone and think Facebook and all its ilk are invasive. When I want to be online, there is always my computer.
Not the luddite you might suspect
I have a LG flip phone that I love and have had since 2006.. I actually paid $145 to have it repaired a few months ago when one of the stereo speakers developed a buzz. I am nursing it along and have no intentions of giving it up. It fits great in my pockets, it's extremely simple and elegant to use and the battery lasts at least a week between charges. On a camping trip in Utah, mine was the only phone in 15 hands that still got a signal in the desert. Best of all, it keeps me connected without being tethered to the Internet.
I'm with you, R46. I never was one to be the first on line for every new technology. My brother is though. I used to live my tech life vicariously through him. For me it's part laziness and part technology decision making. And, quite frankly, I don't want to be constantly reachable. Damn it was bad enough with cell phones. Yea yea I know I can turn it off but it makes it harder to avoid people intruding on your time whenever they want.
My problem is that for work I really do need access to my email and other info away from my computer but I hate the little phones. My commnications are not little text messages but ore often longer and more formal communications. Also I'm out of my office so I could do a good deal of work while waiting for whatever which can entail unbillable hours.
After my usual and endless masturbatory research - I still don't know which smart phone would be best and if it really matters anyway - I now realize what I need is an iPad. While waiting for the new one to come out int he spring I got caught up in a frenzy of work that lasted months and then I had to replace my computer. So now after sleeping for a few weeks and mindless activity (my favorite vacation nowadays) I'll plow into an iPad. Please - no one tell me that I should wait because something new and better is coming out. Just more fuel for my tech procrastination.
What's with everyone needing a GPS/Navigation that talks to you? What the hell did you do before? Constantly get lost? Jeez I've always managed to find my destination.
R43? Cupcake? I can assure you I am at the forefront of new technology, undoubtedly more so than you. I bought my first cell phone, a Motorola MicroTAC, in 1990. I followed it up with a StarTAC in '96. More recently I've bought every iteration of the iPhone within the first week of sales, most of them on the first day. (No, I am not one of those idiots who waits in line for hours for them; I buy via mail order.) While I was living in Europe in 2001 when the Twin Towers fell, and was already texting at the time myself, I am nevertheless aware that texting in America was virtually nonexistent at the time. The messaging service most people in the WTC complex would've had at the time (maybe) was a BlackBerry, which was one of the few communications services that continued working in Lower Manhattan in the aftermath of the attacks after cellular and landline phone networks were completely overwhelmed with calls.
Somehow, I've moved beyond the whole phone thing, although I still own a disposable ($15 to buy/20¢ a min) Samsung flip-phone from Virgin for emergencies. There are wifi hotspots most destinations I go...I work in telecom... and that's quite satisfactory to pair with my iPad, iPod Touch and netbooks when I'm on the move.
[quote]Cupcake? I can assure you I am at the forefront of new technology
Just because you write things on your Newton, doesn't mean that you know shit
[quote]I notice on some tv crime/detective shows, cops still use flip phones. Is that true IRL? Do PDs issue flip phones to cops for work?
Yes. Why would a cop need a smartphone? Outside of NYC, nearly all of them have squad cars equipped with computers.
[quote]I have a LG flip phone that I love and have had since 2006.. I actually paid $145 to have it repaired a few months ago when one of the stereo speakers developed a buzz. I am nursing it along and have no intentions of giving it up.
R49, your behavior borders on the bizarre. It's almost akin to spending $500 to repair a CRT television when you could buy a brand-new flatscreen for the same price. You can buy a new flip phone -- better yet, a new *unlocked* flip phone -- for thirty bucks. And yes, it will have better technology and reception than any six-year-old phone model, and also be just as small.
People texted all the time on Blackberry phones, long before the iPhones came out. Some have deluded themselves into thinking that Apple "invented" thinkgs like texting and taking photos with a phone - they did not!
I don't have a smart phone as I don't have much need to text. That said, I am going to get a new phone within the next month or so and figure that I might as well move up to a smart phone, even if it is more for a better camera phone that I have now. Smart phones cost more $$$ per month - Verizon, for example. chargess $40 per month per smart phone on their share everthing plan, plus $60 for 2 GB of data. So for one smart phone, one will pay at least $100 a month, and that's before all those other silly fees and taxea! What a racket.
[quote]People texted all the time on Blackberry phones, long before the iPhones came out.
No, they didn't. BlackBerrys were originally designed for the exclusive purpose of receiving and writing e-mails, not text messages. BlackBerry servers were run by corporations, for the most part, and RIM had (and still has) a proprietary network designed solely for the purpose of sending e-mails. BlackBerrys were most commonly synced with Microsoft Exchange servers, so a BlackBerry owner would receive messages not via a telephone number, as with texts, but via their regular e-mail address. It is not at all the same thing as a SMS network, which has entirely different functionality and, famously, limits text messages to a length of 140 characters (which is the entire reason Twitter has that limit for tweets).
[quote]Some have deluded themselves into thinking that Apple "invented" thinkgs like texting and taking photos with a phone - they did not!
I have yet to meet ANYONE who thinks Apple "invented" either thing. Cameras on flip phones were commonplace for at least five years prior to the iPhone's debut.
Got a droid to replace my motorola razor. I miss the razor phone. The touch screen on the droid may be easier but I misdial or pocket dial someone by mistake. I think texting was easier on the razor..
yes. an eldergay here.
[quote]The touch screen on the droid may be easier but I misdial or pocket dial someone by mistake.
I don't have a Droid, but how on earth do you pocket-dial anyone by mistake on it? On iPhones you can't make a call unless you swipe your finger at the bottom of the screen to "open" the phone.
If you're still a loser that has to use initials because you're typing on flip phone.
Get a REAL phone. Jesus H Christ.
the big losers are the ones that buy into and obsess about all this needless upsold junk technology
Who the hell needs to text?? If it's so damned important, call me -- or better yet, send me an e-mail. That's why I have a laptop.
All of you young'uns who are staring at those tiny little fonts for hours a day will need bifocals at 30 and thumb surgery at 40.
A friend says since TracFone is a Pay-As-You-Go service, cops can't determine where you are. Is this true?
No it isn't true. You have no idea how a cell phone works. A cell phone has to be able to track your APPROXIMATE location so it can transfer you to the nearest cell tower. Otherwise you'd constantly be dropping your call.
You can buy a trac fone via cash though so that makes it anonymous
I am with StraightTalk and have a $49 phone bill, including tax. The phone is a a Samsung Droid and works off the verizon towers so I have excellent coverage. And no contract! I don't download on my cell, so no concerns about maxing out on my monthly data limits. I could not be happier. Last phone was a Blackberry - overrated (at the time) junk.
[quote]I notice on some tv crime/detective shows, cops still use flip phones
On Southland they use iPhones.
[quote]A friend says since TracFone is a Pay-As-You-Go service, cops can't determine where you are. Is this true?
Of course not. Given a phone number, law enforcement can determine the location of any mobile device. What they can't do is determine who owns the phone if it was bought with cash.
I find it curious that so many people insist that they need smartphones for work and yet 99% of the use I see around is people talking to friends about inane bullshit, tweeting everything about their insubstantial lives and watching stupid youtube videos.
[quote]How fucking old are you people? My friends won't even answer their phones anymore, it's all texting.
I'm in my 40s.
I love how technology is turning everyone into spergs who can't even handle the human contact of a phone call. I think one of my former pals may have actually dropped me because I don't text. She's too anxious to answer her phone, ever, the delicate thing.
I still have the Samsung flip phone I got for free in 2005, the desktop I bought in 2004, an old TV I only use to watch DVDs and a zillion books (hooray used books buyers' market). Unlike my acquaintances who constantly have their faces buried in their iPhones, I have zero debt. Life is good.
I got an even more "sophisticated" smartphone recently. My contract was up and my old phone was acting up, so I decided to get a new one. I hate it. It's battery life is even worse than my old smart phone. I hardly use any of the stupid apps. I can't wait to return it.
My cheap ass employer gave us all flip phones as our cell phones when we were complaining about using our own minutes for work and even going over. Then, the boss complains we don't check emails enough from the field. I HATE texting from it.
What kind did you get, R68?
[quote]Who the hell needs to text?? If it's so damned important, call me -- or better yet, send me an e-mail. That's why I have a laptop.
You are such an idiot. Texting gets straight to the point. I don't want to have to talk to your dumb ass.
[quote]People texted all the time on Blackberry phones, long before the iPhones came out.
No they didn't, grandpa. Jesus.
I am a wealthy New Englander and I still drive the same car I've had for 12 years. Works great and gets the job done.
It's a Nokia Lumia. It comes preinstalled with a ton of useless apps.
I have a flip phone with a keypad in the lower part. I'm fine with texting via the querty keypad. I've grown into texting, but still find it ridiculous how much longer texting takes in some instances. My partner and I were getting ready to go out for dinner and a movie with some friends, and he kept texting them, while were about ready to go. I finally just called one of them: "Where do you guys want to eat? What sounds good? Ok cool. You guys are already out that way? What are you doing? Cool, how about we meet up there and then head to the restaurant? Ok cool." End of conversation, took about 30 seconds talking, instead of texting back and forth.
What is it with people being frightened of answering their phones? Texting is such horseshit. seriously, it takes hours to accomplish something that can be said in 45 seconds.
US smartphones repeat the billing model of cable/AOL/Compuserve. I'm not paying them.
Prices are not sticky. We still pay a premium for build-outs that are complete. Prices should go down, but they don't.
Competition is being decimated, creating oligopolies in each region. These companies have no incentive to use their profits to offer broadband speeds such as those in Europe and Asia.
An Amazon or Apple network would make every carrier shit its pants.
That's when I'll go back to smartphones.
R75 = 127 years old
[quote]People texted all the time on Blackberry phones, long before the iPhones came out.
[quote]No they didn't, grandpa. Jesus.
But it is true that texting has been around since the 90s. I could receive texts on my very first huge brick Samsung phone in 1999, although I don't think it was SMS. You had to send the text to an email address. My next phone in 2004 was a Siemens CF62 with true SMS/MMS. It was easy to compose texts once you mastered the T9 system; I think since the advent of QWERTY keyboards on mobiles, people have forgotten how to T9.
[quote]It's a Nokia Lumia.
Oh, well, that was your problem. You got a Windows Phone.
[quote]What is it with people being frightened of answering their phones? Texting is such horseshit. seriously, it takes hours to accomplish something that can be said in 45 seconds.
1) It's now considered impolite and trashy to subject people around you to the sound of your conversation.
2) it's now considered an imposition to expect people to answer a phone call when it might not be a good time or place for them to talk.
3) Text messages and emails are asynchronous and don't require the other person to reply to you in real time. It's just more polite all around.
Times and manners change.
I have a flip phone too.
My Siemens CF262 was also my first web-enabled mobile phone. I remember reading DataLounge and Googling things on that tiny screen.
[quote]What is it with people being frightened of answering their phones?
4) There's also the fact that sound and connection quality on the iPhone has been so notoriously poor that nobody bothers with voice calls anymore. That's probably the main reason I hate talking on the phone now and prefer to text.
People hunched over staring at their phones look like idiots.
I find it endlessly amusing just how riled up some of the eldergays around here get about smartphones.
I probably text and surf the web too much and use a few apps too much to use a standard flip phone.
But, I love actually talking on the phone on a flip phone - it's so much longer and closer to both ear and mouth, and lighter, and just feels better. But, that's not enough reason to go back.
There are always these threads full of people so proud that they have purchased the latest unnecessary technojunk. The even refer to it by brand name, as if this indicates they have some special knowledge.
I don't have a cell phone, smart, dumb, or otherwise.
My life runs fine. I have scores of friends. I am not a hermit.
I do have a landline and I do have e-mail.
This is enough.
I have a landline and email.
No cell phone.
Cell phones are a scourge on society.
I just got rid of mine about two months ago after finally upgrading to an iphone. The adjustment was a bit much to get used to. My old phone even had an...antenna!!
Don't iphones cost $70 or more per month?
I pay 117 a month with Sprint.
I have my iPhone and iPad on a shared data plan, 6GB a month, $135. It just depends.
Holy shit, $117. That is ridiculous. I don't see how average workers can afford to keep an iphone running.
My friend also pays around $120 and guess what happens when he needs to make an actual call? He borrows mine. I've also seen him beg bartenders to let him charge his phone.
R80? That's called "rationalizing."
Especially when they're driving, R84.
More polite? WHAT A STUPID THING TO SAY! Just step away from people or wait to talk until you can get away. That's what I do. Many cell phone users are rude. So are many texters.
People who text are lost in the conversation which takes forever. In between parts of the convo they are thinking about what to write or what was written.
The constant chirping of the phones and their habit of interrupting what they're doing to read and reply is not polite. Constantly seeing the tops of their heads is ridiculous. They all seem to think it's okay to text at work.
I pay between 30 and 45 a month. I have a flip. I can text but I get charged extra so I rarely do. I have no problem with it but I miss my landline.
Who uses email any more?
People who refuse to get on board with new technology. People who refuse to text or have a decent smartphone are just going to sit still while the world passes them by. It's kind of a shame. My 60 year old mother texts.
I think the world is passing by the people hunched over and staring at a piece of plastic, texting.
Yeah well, I fucked your 60-year-old mother back in the day and I still don't want a cell phone -- have no desire or need to text.
And fuck you too.
R100 is also a complete and utter idiot.
R101 is a complete and utter idiot.
R100 who doesn't? You must be very lonely, go play your video games.
I'm trying to use my phone less.
I left it in the car last night by accident and I was thrilled.
Normally, I can't help but check it before my eyes are fully open in the A.M.
It's wrong, I know.
R107, it is a psychological addiction and a very unflattering trait for the phone owner to have.
I don't own a computer or know how to use a computer, and don't care to own one. I did get an iPad for Christmas, and learned how to use the Internet and write my own blog.
Sent From My iPad
[quote]Yeah well, I fucked your 60-year-old mother back in the day and I still don't want a cell phone -- have no desire or need to text.
You are extremely rude and barbaric! Go play in heavy traffic.
Do you know where you are, R110?
How can people be so incompetent at texting that it takes them 45 minutes?
If it is taking you that long, the problem is not the technology.
[quote]I pay 117 a month with Sprint.
I pay 80 a month with unlimited data on AT&T. However, I've been a customer for a very long time.
Too many people, many of whom are otherwise wonderful humans, are constitutionally incapable of having a brief telephone conversation. Even if they call you at work, or you call them at work for a specific reason, even when you've stated your boundaries or remind them you're at work, just out of the shower, just leaving the house, etc., they go on and on. And on. And get pissy or passively aggressive if you try to end the call politely.
I have experienced this repeatedly with different friends, colleagues and relatives over the years. But you can be damn sure they'll practically hang up in YOUR face when THEY'RE in a rush.
This is why I text. And email. Call me neurotic, call me a social retard, whatever. Drop me as friend and call it my fault. But my ear won't keep getting hot from your interminable calls, Brother/Coworker/Friend Who Cannot Take a Strong Hint.
It's amazing that I have to tell you this, R114, but simply don't answer the phone until you have time or are by a landline that doesn't heat up where you can call them back. I assume you have voicemail. If it's an emergency they leave a message and you can call them back if absolutely important.
Texting is not a necessary evil. It's fine if you like to do it, but stop trying to make it a necessity.
[quote]Texting is not a necessary evil. It's fine if you like to do it, but stop trying to make it a necessity.
Texting may not be necessary if you are 60-plus, and all of your friends are also 60-plus.
For those of us with actual jobs and social lives, texting is, indeed, necessary.
Hey asshole. Stop assuming. I have a job AND a social life and no it isn't.
My friends all know not to text me. In fact I texted one this morning because it was an emergency and I couldn't get him by phone. He called me and said "Why are you texting? You worried me."
I would die if I couldn't text, could never go back to speaking on the phone.
Let's try and guess how old R117 is. I'm going with 71.
One really has to be low brow and non-intellectual to think that he is somehow superior because he uses texting on a phone.
Only a know-nothing skewed ignorant person would think he is superior because he uses texting on a phone.
That's because you're an idiot R119.
R113, i've been with Sprint since '98. My plan is unlimited everything. They added a smartphone fee and some other fee and then there are all those mysterious surcharges tacked on. My plan is supposedly 80 per month but with all the extra fees it's routinely 117 and change. They also got rid of their gold and silver member deals for longtime customers when they got the iphone. I was gold. It got me nothing but offers for free NASCAR tickets.
However, I'd never go with ATT after the abysmal experience of having them for home phone and internet. I don't know how they can stay in business with their incompetent and unintelligible filipino tech support and seemingly incesssant dsl down time.
R120, I don't think anyone believes most texting types think they're "superior" to ear-to-ear communicators. In my case (@R114), it's simply what I prefer with people who can't or won't respect conversational boundaries, especially given physical issues that make it painful to use a phone for long conversations.
Do you consider yourself superior to texting types? Unless you're an asshole, I doubt you do. You simply [italic]prefer[/italic] one communication mode over another.
I prefer paper books to ebooks. But I don't slag off Kindle fans, and gladly use my e-reader for works that are nonprint-only.
Don't own a mobile, or prefer not to text? I'll gladly call your landline or mobile IF you'll respect MY preference for shorter phone conversations.
As long as people are respectful in their interactions, why get in a tizzy if someone prefers a flip phone, smartphone, text, or email?
R120, I was speaking to R116 and R119, both of who seem to think they have some sort of superiority because they text and are bigoted ageists on top of their low brow intellects and misplaced arrogance.
I hate talking on the phone.
R124 here. I meant to type:
R123, I was speaking to [R116] and [R119], both of who seem to think they have some sort of superiority because they text and are bigoted ageists on top of their low brow intellects and misplaced arrogance.
I am sorry to burst R123s bubble, but yes, I do get shit from people because I hate to text. My last relationship was with someone a mere 3 years younger than I, and he only wanted to text. When feelings, inevitably, would get hurt, because subtlty of language and emotion does not flow well, he would throw a fit. I would, then, have to call to calm him down. He and his friends would make fun of me for not having a cell phone, and not wishing to be friends with hundreds of people I did not know, online, simply because I was seeing someone.
I do find the FB/Smartphone obsessed to feel they are superior. I do not think I am, but I have heard how weird I am for my personal preferences many times. I rarely hear that someone is an oddity because they update their FB 20 times a day.
I am no Luddite; I work in IT.
A flip phone is all that I need.
When this thread started I was on a Samsung flip phone. The e-ink keypad, when turned horizontally, would switch to a full QWERTY keyboard. Pretty cool, eh? It replaced a LG flip phone because many of my friends were texting me and it was a hassle texting back on the LG.
I'm now on Samsung smartphone and the extra features really are convenient. The cost factor is cushioned by my job subsidizing most of the monthly bill (I paid for the phone). If it wasn't for the subsidy, I'd still be on the flip phone. But now that I'm on a smartphone...it would be tough to go back. I agree with many here, my two flip phones were much better for calls--both for call quality and comfort. On the other hand, I was out last night and at a bus stop and using my phone, I found that the bus I wanted was 55 minutes away but another bus # that also worked for me was only 9 minutes away. Good to know at 11pm.
I broke down and got an iphone4. Verizon offered me a deal to replace my flip phone that was too good to pass up. Now, I can't believe I've gone all of this time without one...
My work issued phone is a flip. Hate it. Plus it has a little antenna that pulls out. I feel so hip 1995.
I think the eldergays who get really upset about texting either don't have mobile phones, or they have ancient ones without a full keyboard.
I don't particuarly like texting myself, but I use it all the time for working out small details with someone. It's so much easier than talking.
[quote] I don't particuarly like texting myself
So don't text yourself DUH!
I remember when cellphones first came out, texting was really big in Europe because it was cheaper than calling. Everyone in the US was all "what? It's a phone, you're supposed to talk!"
Then school kids in the US and newly minted high school graduate secretaries memorized their phone keypads and were talking to their friends with both hands under their desks. The bosses/teachers were unaware of their slacking. Texting became king.
Now if only one could buy a phone plan with unlimited texting and no talk time.
[quote] What is it with people being frightened of answering their phones
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I had a hard time finding a flip phone for my 80 year old mother. She was spending $60 a month on her cellphone that she would only use it on nights and weekends for fear of "using up my minutes!" So I told her she could pay me $10 a month and not use her phone just as well as paying $60 a month if I put her on my plan.
Well...we had to get her a new flip phone. "No music! No cameras! I don't want it to talk to me!"
Getting a new flip cellphone has resulted in a ball of confusion for her.
It's a different color! My other phone was pink!
So I got a pink cellphone cover. Now it's pink.
But the ring is different!
Yeah, so? It's not the same as your landline ring, so when you hear it, it is undoubtedly your cellphone. You live alone. It's not somebody else's phone. Look for your cellphone when you hear it ring.
The list goes on with her finding fault with a plain flip phone that is pretty much the same as her old flip phone, but what amazes me is that she visited recently and still has the same startled and confused reaction every time her cellphone rings. She's had the same phono for a year.
"Is that my phone! OMG! Is that MY phone? Is it my phone or your phone? Where is it? Where's my phone? I don't even know if it's mine!"
I remind her that her phone has voicemail. "I don't know how to use it!" I remind her that all she need do is flip open her phone and press "recent call" and it will show her the phone number that just called hers. "I don't know how!" I remind her it's exactly the same as how she does it on her landline phone when she misses a call.
There's something about cellphones that make elderly people lose their minds. And they jumP and run to answer it like they'll be arrested if they don't pick up before it stops ringing.
R136, your mom sounds like she posts here on DL.
I think so. And I wonder if the non-cellphone owners are mostly men or mostly women.
I suppose I should be grateful. My friend's parents refuse to use the cellphone he bought them. He's told them it will save everyone so much money if they just talk cellphone to cellphone. His mother won't even pick it up when it rings. It's "too complicated." She's afraid she'll hit the wrong button. They are in their 80s.
Fuck touchscreen keyboards on phone. I'm sticking with QWERTY. I can bang out messages in seconds on my 'ancient' HTC Desire Z, and without getting RSI in my thumbs.