A good movie that did absolutely nothing at the box office. I thought it was far superior to "Juno," which was written and directed by the same team (Diablo Cody and Jason Reitman.) Charlize Theron and Patton Oswald were both excellent.
Me too! It's much better than Juno because it's far beyond that hipster quirkiness. I love how you're on Charlize's side until you realize what a cunt she is...and then you feel sorry for her. Great performance by Charlize, great film. Patton Oswald is especially wonderful.
Charlize was terrific in an unsympathetic role, She was nominated for a Golden Globe and should have been for the Oscar.
Was it because she had the abortion in this one?
I loved this movie. Patton Oswalt was very good and Charlize Theron was amazing. She didn't win anything because she didn't ugly herself up enough, she wasn't a historical figure and the character was unsympathetic. But I do think it was the best performance of the year.
The screenplay is far from perfect (the big monologue at the party was awkward and I wish they hadn't given her a 'secret' to justify her actions) but I think it shows growth from Cody and there were some excellent scenes. Even with the problems, it stayed with me more than most movies i've seen recently.
This was a very painful film for me to watch, as the month before I saw it I has reunited with my high school boyfriend.
I thought we were going to reignite; he had moved on.
Very awkward to watch a film and it dawn on you that you are the unsympathetic nut everyone finds pitiful/annoying.
Loved the big party scene, it was hysterical and sad at the same time. Loved this film and was ready to hate it because I didn't like Diablo until I saw this.
Didn't like it at all. Totally flat with seriously unsympathetic characters.
R5, don't be so hard on yourself.
We all feel. We all want love.
I thought Patton & Charlize were sympathetic.
Could Charlize Theron lay claim to the title of DL sacred cow? I don't think I've read a single bitchy/dismissive comment about her here.
You must have missed the thread when she adopted the baby, R10.
That I did.
Who wants to bet that R8 is fat?
[quote]I wish they hadn't given her a 'secret' to justify her actions
Agreed, R4. Actually, I think they could have done that whole scene where she drunkenly screams at the wife that she fucking hates her without the whole "big reveal" aspect. I thought her character was plenty entertaining just as a selfish, alcoholic brat who never moved on from her high school glory days. The "reveal" just seemed schlocky.
I was a great film but Charlize was not the most likable character...film was way better than Juno, which I could not sit through.
I liked it too OP.
So what was the big "reveal?" Can someone tell us after posting:
Who wants to bet R13 is a cunt?
It was already revealed above.
It started off so drably and CT's character has no redeeming qualities. Then it dawns on you that that's the point. Harsh, sad, unromantic, unsympathetic, sort of funny and quite realistic.
I did enjoy the film, but I was expecting her to be more of a TWIT (Teenage Women In Their Thirties) than she was. The obsession with the color pink, Hello Kitty accessories and Twilight-loving bullshit was too toned down for me. I wanted the full Mariah, Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, Cameron Diaz, et al. "I'm still a teenage girl!" experience.
Both the town she left and the midwestern apartment Charlize's character for which she left the town life were equally despairing.
I loved the film, and found her performance incredible; even more so the second time I saw it on blu-ray.
Well I screwed up that first sentence, which should have read:
Both the town she left and the midwestern apartment she currently resided were equally despairing.
aw same sort of thing happened with me r5. It made me love it even more...I even cried. I could really relate to her character.
God, I hated "Young Adult." Awful, awful screenplay, and not one of Theron's best. Patton Oswalt was fine, but the movie just was a loser in my opinion.
Loved this film! Don't understand why it didn't get more attention. Has some very very funny moments.
I really enjoyed it, and thought Theron gave a fantastic performance. She's a very good actress. I was also ready to hate it, because I can't stand Diablo Cody and think Juno is one of the most overhyped films ever.
I love Charlize.
It was a miscarriage, not an abortion.
One miscarriage with the high school sweetheart's baby and probably more with her husband. She said something about her broken body. I don't think the movie would be as good without the reveal. People have their reasons to be cunts (no that that justifies them) was kind of the point, mirrored with Oswald's character.
So was Beth was completely innocent? Even though her friends all hated Mavis?
Matt told Mavis the truth in the beginning.
What do you mean? What should Beth be guilty of?
Throwing things in Mavis's face. Her friends didn't like Mavis. I think Beth wasn't so innocent. That feel sorry act was bs.
I like Charlize, but this film had no one you could sympathize with. Charlize's character was the anti-hero. It serves no purpose.
So she's a failed author who is now a ghost writer who goes back to her hometown with the intention of breaking up the marriage of her happily married and new dad ex-high school boyfriend.
That's it. There was nothing deep or entertaining about the plot at all. It's a made-for-tv film that ought to have aired on Lifetime.
This film was a real wake up call to me. I took a break from watching the Kardashians to go see it and actually brought my own bottle of Diet Coke to the cinema. And I was wearing sweat pants.
I get so bored with people like R21 who dislike films just because they didn't meet their "expectations." How about going to the cinema or the theatre or listening to music or reading a book without any expectations and entering into the world of the work with some context other than "my expectations of how things should be"?
I don't think people like you realise how stupid and narrow-minded you sound.
Fabulous performance by Theron. How was she not nominated for an Oscar for this?
Saw this the other night -- I thought it was going to be a laff-riot comedy (hadn't read anything about it online) and found it incredibly depressing.
A very good movie. Has some good black-comedy moments (which I love).
"There was nothing deep or entertaining about the plot at all. It's a made-for-tv film that ought to have aired on Lifetime."
You've obviously never seen a Lifetime movie. It wasn't a "true crime" schlockfest or an issue-of-the-week disaster.
"How about going to the cinema or the theatre or listening to music or reading a book without any expectations and entering into the world of the work with some context other than "my expectations of how things should be"?"
Stop lecturing other people and being mean for no reason. If read about a movie before you see or see commercials for the movie then you will have expectations about what it might be like. Nothing unusual there.
I loved the film, particularly the sister of Patton Oswald's character who, for a "rube", gives the supposedly "worldly" Charlize's character a blunt but honest talk about the hometown and her place in it. Way better and honest than the average "star vehicle".
By the way, Charlize's look at her rival performing in the bar band was absolutely chilling. She should have been nominated for that one scene alone. I love the other barmembers saw through her immediately.
This thread inspired me to watch it again. Great movie that probably won't get the respect it deserves because of misogyny (don't worry, I'm not the Misogyny Kills troll.) If this movie was made about a man, it would reap the awards. But as much as I like it, there are some flaws that prevent it from being a true classic. It's hard to believe that a character as seemingly popular as Charlize Theron's would have a successful career as a writer. To be a successful writer, there needs to be more introspection than her character shows throughout the movie.
I also thought Theron's performance was lacking. It was too cold and sociopathic to make the movie engaging, even with an antihero point of view. There was no empathy to be had. This would've been fine if Diablo Cody hadn't written the character to have a sliver of a spine wrapped beneath all the chaos.
Her character's situation was very believable, though the elements might have been a bit uneven.
I think Lisa Kudrow would have done a brilliant job with this role of a narcissist in crisis.
But she's not a good writer, R43.
It's called The Comeback, R45.