Which is your fave? Did Linda-Bloodworth Thomason rip off Susan Harris's idea of four close female best friends? The DW characters even shared similar traits of the GG (airhead, outspoken, self-centered and caustic).
Golden Girls, without a doubt.
christ. we got so much singing in designing women because it was a tradeoff for conservative dixie who insisted on recompense for speaking liberal dialog. golden girls all the way.
I would also say "Golden Girls" who had Sophia. "Designing Women" only had that negro Anthony...
Looks great. I can't wait.
I prefer Designing Women with the original cast but Golden Girls has held up much better.
I posted last week that I recently tried to watch "Designing Women" but couldn't make it through all the seasons. The preachiness and sappiness got to be too much, and a lot of the dialog wasn't that funny. Sometimes they'd ramble 'til they got to the punchline, but by the time they did I kinda forgot what they'd initially started with. Julia and Mary Jo were guilty of this. Anthony, too, and I never laughed at anything he said, whether he was pretending to be a Pakistani or whatever. I found myself chuckling or smiling once or twice per episode but never LOLing or ROFLing like I did/do with "Golden Girls." It has held up better and is still hilarious and topical. Except for the stock footage, "Golden Girls" looks recent; the film used in "Designing Women" looks dated and very '80s. (The fashions notwithstanding in both cases.)
R2, don't get me started on Dixie Carter's singing. God, was she awful!
I like both but prefer GG because of the actors. Bea Arthur could read the Declaration of Independence and have me in stitches.
Plus there was the time that Rue did this.
I will never forgive "Designing Women" for the episode that Anthony is laid up in bed at Suzanne's and she is taking care of him. He says "It's like that movie "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane! And I'm Jane!" That line makes absolutely no sense to anyone who has even passing knowledge of the movie. Stupid.
And I'm Blanche!
Wasn't Blanche the invalid, R9?
Never seen the movie but somewhat familiar with the Davis/Crawford roles.
I have never understood the obsessive love for "The Golden Girls." (ducks head) I never watched it during its original run and have only seen random episodes in reruns over the years. Nothing I saw made me want to keep watching.
I did always like "Designing Women" but agree it does not hold up well. There are some hilarious moments but very few classic episodes.
DW at its best was leagues beyond GG. It could be far more cerebral and less insult-driven; the GG writers constantly undercut characters with dumb jokes and cheap shots.
DW's heyday was shorter than GG's, however. Seasons 2-5 are remarkably funny, especially season 4, but the cast change in season 6, coupled with a drastic downturn in the writing and directing, ruined the show. GG had a much longer run of consistently good episodes, and never suffered a cast turnover, which goes a long way toward to sealing its iconic status.
But to answer your question, OP, Linda Bloodworth-Thomason did not rip off Susan Harris, any more than Darren Starr ripped off either show to create SEX AND THE CITY. Aside from four female leads, they're all very distinct in terms of theme, tempo and humor.
Never felt the love for THE GOLDEN WHORES. DESIGNING WOMEN, on the other hand, was delicious. Especially once Delta got heavier. The character of Suzanne became more and more outrageous. Alice Ghostley could read the obituaries and make them a riot!
Golden Girls 4 Life
Golden Girls and Designing Women were just and expanded version of Kate & Allie. Instead of two women you got 4.
Just like Friends, Ellen, Drew Carey were weak versions of Seinfeld.
R2, please quit being too lazy to use capital letters. We don't care that it requires extra work on your little device. Be an adult.
r13: Eat dirt and die, trash.
Golden Girls. Much funnier.
I think the humor on Designing Women was much sharper than GG. Also, it seemed to me that the characters on DW truly liked/cared about each other while on GG they just insulted each other constantly: Rose-stupid Dorothy-ugly Blanche-slut. It just really got repetitive. Charlene and Suzanne still make me laugh to this day.
Designing Women all the way. Always waited for Julia to get an attitude, and the two, one when she debated some guy running for office, and the other was the defense of Suzanne in the make up room of some pageant
and the ending of the rant was, "...and that, Mary Jo (something) was the night the lights went out in Gor-Jah!" I love that episode.
I always loved Golden Girls but DW was more contemporary and relatable for the time it was in first run. I really liked Jean Smart too, always classy looking, along with Dixie Carter.
Oh, but the GG did love each other, and it was never more apparent than the last episode.
I liked both shows but Murphy Brown was #1.
I couldn't stand Julia Sugarbaker; what a self-righteous cunt she was. I hated it when she told off someone, because she never just told them off; it had to be some fucking lecture loaded with overwrought prose, almost like it was written by Pat Conroy.
Golden Girls had seven highly successful seasons. The entire cast won Emmies. Golden Girls has never been off the air. Even today, you can find it playing on two different stations at the same time. I think the cast changes on Designing Women just killed the show, even though there was a lot of talent there.
Golden Girls was also more ground breaking. Four renowned actresses playing characters celebrating friendships and healthy sex lives after 50. It wouldn't work today even. Today, they'd be cougars dating younger men and trying to stay relevant.
Golden Girls will always be the better of the two, IMO. It's funny - on Golden Girls, they often made jokes about Designing Women.
DW was far too much Julia Sugarbaker and not enough Suzanne.
GG got the balance right and was more laugh and giggle inducing. It also holds up better.
'Designing Women' in its heyday with Delta Burke, Dixie Carter, Annie Potts and Jean Smart is classic television with some of the best acting and writing ever on a sitcom.
Designing Women was good, but it did not hold up over time. and once the original cast started being replaced, it went downhill fast.
GG is still funny today.
This thread should have closed after R1. The Golden Girls, no contest.
Julia's rants were fun, especially the rare times she stood up for Suzanne. The one that concludes "and that's the night the lights went off in Georgia" is a classic.
Best season of "DW" was the 1988-89 post writers strike episodes. Even the darker ones, such as Julia's car-into-newsstand anti-porn protest, were packed a comedic punch that probably couldn't be attempted today. It was jarring to hear Anthony express his disgust over an amputee fetishist mag named "Stump" over a gasping audience/laughtrack.
A shot-for-shot remake of the Golden Girls intro, starring the Superfriends!
Golden Girls, no contest. It was a funnier, not to mention, a far more socially progressive show. DW always felt very conservative and preachy.
"THE SILVER FOXES"
[italic]Four older men share their lives together in a ranch-style house in Fort Lauderdale.[/italic]
Tired of living alone, Blake Debergue places an ad in a local paper for two rooms to rent in his home. The ad is answered by Dorian McGraw and Russell Newberry.
Lyle Waggoner is Dorian--a headstrong, responsible high school teacher. He left Buffalo, New York and headed south after his wife dumped him for a young male model.
Brian Dennehy is Russell--an overly-optimistic, sometimes dim-witted but fun-loving pet store supervisor. He is a widower and a transplant from Chicago.
Robert Conrad is Blake. Also a widower, he has great sex appeal and he knows it. Originally from New Orleans, he's lived in Florida for close to 20 years. His job at a museum allows plenty of opportunity to meet members of the opposite sex.
Mickey Rooney is Solomon--Dorian's elderly, sharp-tongued father. He comes to stay with the men after his retirement home is closed due to a devastating lawsuit. Lived in Florida for decades with his wife, Sophie, before she died. He often speaks of his late wife, who was the great love of his life.
[bold]theme song is James Taylor's "You've Got A Friend"[/bold]
They are not even in the same league imo.
One was a pop culture phenomenon which remains a staple in cable TV. The other no so much.
Love both shows fairly equally. I will say, Golden Girls was more consistently funny throughout its entire run, but when Designing Women tackled "issues", it was usually brilliant and very well written. Julia's "Terminator" tirades are some of my very favorite TV moments.
Did I get an Emmy nomination as Rose?
Never was much of a fan of "Golden Girls" despite the fact that I liked Bea Arther and Rue M. on "Maude" and I loved Betty White on "MTM". I think what turned me off is that they made Betty White's character so ridiculously stupid that it really undercut the plausibility of the whole show. It reached a point where whenever I watched, I would almost roll my eyes every time Betty White's character said anything.
"Designing Women", on the other hand, was absolutely one of my favorite shows, and one of the few sitcoms I've actually enjoyed. The original foursome were four of the funniest women on the face of the earth, and had terrific chemistry with one-another, and the writing was sharp and witty and and frequently very timely. As a New Englander who fell in love with the south when I attended college in Savannah, I appreciated that DW also featured a depiction of a part of the south that we don't often see in TV (not the Hillbilly "Hee-Haw" south, but the elegant, genteel, "old money" south, where people have manners and grace"). If Tennesse Williams had written a sitcom, he would have written "Designing Women".
I love "Golden Girls" but it had far too many of those trademark Susan Harris touches I find annoying- the transitional music on all her shows (SOAP, Benson, Empty Nest et al.) sounds like it was by the same cheap orchestra, the overuse of establishing shots, the lack of continuity in consistency in characterizations, overly bright lighting...
[quote]The one that concludes "and that's the night the lights went off in Georgia" is a classic.
You should come to JR's in DC on a Sunday night. At some point in the evening, they'll play that clip and every single fangurl in the bar will emote every last line at the top of her lungs while twirling her $1 vodka tonic above her head. It's hi-larious!
Designing Women! And please show some class and not bring up race (to the white trash that posted about Anrhony!)
If you're gonna make a show about female friends, you need the rule of four.
"The Facts of Life"
"The Goodtime Girls"
"Sex and the City"
DW by a hair. The clincher was the "Ray Don" put-down episode. Brilliant.
Yes, R10, Blanche was the invalid. So for Anthony to say that he's the Jane in the situation makes no sense.
There's no comparison. TGG begat DW. TGG is also a consistant laugh riot. DW was funny in spots.
Golden Girls...not even close.
Golden Girls encompasses all ages, races, you name. My ex, who in his early 20s, would stop everything he was doing to watch 11:00pm back to back episodes.
I could watch the Golden Girls, Seinfeld, The Big Bang Theory and Law & Order SVU 24 hrs a day and be happy.
Designing Women--without a doubt. The best. I never cared all that much for Golden Girls.
You're in the minority, R53.
Lady, you've got bigger problems than lesbians in your sauna!