Interesting article on Ken Levine's blog about what an asshole Cosby was to work for, but the really interesting tidbits are in the comments section. It's worth a read.
One of the comments:
i worked for The Tonight Show during Johnny Carson's reign and when Bill Cosby was a regular Monday Guest host filling in for Johnny.
One particular Monday when Cosby was guest hosting and I wasn't more than 19 years old, I had the ONLY bad experience in my 9 years working on the show.
Cosby, Mr. Playboy Jazz Festival showed up early to listen to the Tonight Show Orchestra rehearse in the late afternoon. As Im standing by Doc Severinsen's podium, I kiddingly said to Mr Cosby: Good luck to your Sixers, but i think the Lakers are going to take this one. HE WENT APESHIT ON ME. Here I am a little girl in essence (only girl crew person in my career infancy) and he got right in my face screaming profanities at me pushing his chest out assaulting me while yelling at me! (over a basketball game? Come on!) It got so bad, violent, perverted, mean and frightening my guys from the crew and band members jumped to my defense saying to him is your career worth this, for gods sake she's a little girl! He was so in my face I truly feared he was going to hit me. Eventually the security took him from the studio until time for his monologue. Ive known for 30 years that Bill Cosby is a bully, crazy, untalented, pushy, racist, mean and and egocentric asshole! Ill spit on his grave when he dies and that couldn't happen soon enough!
He's an oreo cookie, he is critical of black youths talking all ghetto. He says they should learn to speak proper English.
Who's to say Ebonics is not proper?
Rule #1 - Don't mess with a Philadelphia sports fan. I blame you! You do realize Eagles fans tried to kill Santa Claus one year by throwing ice balls for the 700 level. They have a jail in their stadiums. I would say you got off easy.
[quote]Who's to say Ebonics is not proper?
Anyone with common sense.
R3, it's about as proper as a hillbilly doing his "gazintas."
What about the comment that he like Asian hookers? Anyone ever heard that before?
I second R4, they are freaks
I can honestly say I never watched a single (complete) episode of [italic]The Cosby Show[/italic] (or any other shows Bill Cosby starred in). Just never thought he was very funny or interesting.
I saw him once on a plane. The plane was held up for him and he came on last wearing tennis gear and holding a tennis racket. He sat in the first row. He ignored everyone when they spoke to him, including the flight attendants. He then said something like "can't you people leave me the 'f-k' alone" or something like that. He was very, very rude. Everyone on the plane was shocked and Cosby didn't care that everyone saw and heard him.
He had pretty significant insight and keen observation about relationships between kids and their parents and turned that into entertaining comedic stand-up routines and later in his sit com. He was also arrogant, pompous, and proved to be a major hypocrite.
Newsflash: in *real life* people are complex; neither hero, or monster.
WTF is his problem?
Huge chip on his shoulder.
I eat old people's excrement.
I *am* excrement.
Most comedians are very different people when they are off the stage. Especially the big name ones. Rosie, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld are all mean. Bill is especially nasty though. He has tons of issues and some old people are just insufferable anyway.
Oh, shut up the whole lot of you and eat a fucking Jell-o Pudding Pop.
I read somewhere that he tended to avoid speaking to white people when possible. The example given was in a parking garage somewhere, there was some sort of issue that needed to be addressed, but Cosby would only speak to the black attendant there in order to try to straighten the situation out, even though there was a white manager present who was obviously the boss of the black attendant.
But what was up with casting those high yellow actresses as his daughters? The older daughter (can't remember her name) who appeared in Season 2 was extraordinarily fair, she could pass for Southern European.
r3 - Who's to say Ebonics is not proper?
I guess we should leave that up to the good native people of the country Ebonica… Ebonicia… um… er…
Remember the cold shoulder he gave Wanda Sykes a few years ago on live TV at the Emmys? When she asked him about The Cosby Show, he icily said, "We spoke English."
Raven (aka Olivia) has also hinted at estrangement with Cosby. And I don't think Lisa Bonet has had anything to do with him since she left A Different World, and hasn't even participated in cast reunions.
I'm a pedophile!
I remember one time on the Tonight Show he said he would not allow any white people on HIS show. He is indeed a Big racist.
[quote]And I don't think Lisa Bonet has had anything to do with him since she left A Different World, and hasn't even participated in cast reunions.
What HAS she participated in besides supporting her husband(s) and daughter at their premieres?
Native people, R20?
I'm pretty sure R3 was joking but I'm *certain* you don't want to go talking about "native people" in America.
We despise him.
He helped me get the truth out.
"Remember the cold shoulder he gave Wanda Sykes a few years ago on live TV at the Emmys?"
Wanda was also making jokes at his expense before he snapped at her. Asking if Nipsey Russell was orginally scheduled to give it to him and such.
Another profoundly conflicted asswipe who is and always has been just plain nasty (the sex shit, the hypocrisy, the "Call me DR. Cosby" crap) because he confuses respect with genuflection, and NOTHING is going to be enough for him, ever.
But, beyond that, I smell twat in the rendering of the anecdote. She probably was uncivil and too familiar to this self-important asshole, and he called her on it. And the description of Armageddon she provides sounds like a typical girly embellishment of the big bad man treating her like a guy, after she provoked him. Plus these twats never let go, ever. She WILL go spit on his grave, and have it filmed as she's doing it. And of course the posts about Phil. fans are right. Crazy v. Crazy here.
But screw Mr. Cosby anyway. His smugness has ruined every performance he's ever given, except the ones where it has just been him with kids and he's dropped the act.
r25 - Most languages are developed and spoken by "native people" of whatever country the language is spoken.
I suggest you tuck your Political Correctness up your ass, if there's room net to your head, and grow a sense of humor.
[quote]Wanda was also making jokes at his expense
He deserved it.
"He deserved it."
Then she deserved to be called out on it too.
I saw that Emmy broadcast with Sykes and Cosby was just plain rude to her. It was a moment when she came out into the audience to just make jokes and stick the microphone in front of some people. At some point, Cosby DID say something along the lines of "We spoke English." Now, I DO love Wanda Sykes and SINCE that time I have learned that her humor, although she uses that "sassy black woman" accent thing, is smart and clever and that she is bright, not some dumb pop-eyed throwback to Amos and Andy. But she wasn't QUITE as well known at that time. And I could SEE how someone could mistake what her "schtick" is for an Uncle Tom thing. Until you give her a few minutes.
But, good holy christ, Cosby could have been polite and nice and SHOWN BY EXAMPLE, even if he did not like her act. And she is MILES funnier that Cosby and could have handed him his ass on a platter in his BEST days, in my opinion.
[quote]Who's to say Ebonics is not proper?
I saw that Emmy exchange as well, and Cosby was a complete asshole to Sykes. Made me like her more, and like him less.
Supposedly since his son was murdered he's even MORE difficult to deal with.
I remember reading an excerpt from the book written by the studio chief during Leonard Part VI, or whatever Cosby's crappy movie was called. It was hilarious because he called Cosby out for being an unfunny, boorish jerk at a time when Cosby was still King of Must See T.V. Not that the studio guy didn't have an axe to grind, but still...
He's spot on about ebonics, which belongs in the bottom of any PC party's garbage pail of great ideas. Also spot on about so-called blacks over aping ghetto culture to extremes, whether it be fashion (sometimes their only fashion) or in the office.
He's not "spot on" about ebonics. He's just an asshole and a snob. And to call out Wanda Sykes like that just shows what a rude narcissist he is. The insistence on being called "Dr." when it's just an honorary degree is grandiose to say the least. But he continues in the long and storied tradition of supremely unpleasant comedians.
R30 are you listening to yourself? I suppose you really have no clue how ridiculous you are.
Oh, I'm laughing now, believe me.
Yo, what R36 said.
Who gives a f--k about Wanda Dykes ?
[quote] The insistence on being called "Dr." when it's just an honorary degree is grandiose to say the least.
I couldn't agree more!
Bill Cosby has an actual PhD. His degree is not honorary.
You go girl ! Read those beads, hunny !
Not surprised. I always found him an arrogant motherfucker and his comedy schtick vastly overrated. Only the other actors on the cosby show made it watchable. Ive heard lisa bonet put him in his place and wouldnt take any of his bs on cosby show which i find hilarious!
[quote]Bill Cosby has an actual PhD. His degree is not honorary.
Not a PhD, an Ed.D.
His dissertation was entitled, "An Integration of the Visual Media Via 'Fat Albert And The Cosby Kids' Into the Elementary School Curriculum as a Teaching Aid and Vehicle to Achieve Increased Learning".
What was yours, R45?
WHo gives a Fuck about an Oxford Comma?
Re: Ebonics. The distinction needs to be made between what is a language and what is appropriate language to use in any given situation. Linguists still disagree as to whether "Ebonics" (most linguistics refer to it as Black Vernacular English or BVE) is a language or dialect--no need to get into the technical stuff of linguistics, here. What is true is that what is called "Ebonics" has grammatical rules, marks tense in ways that are understandable to its speakers and listeners, and has a lexicon (vocabulary) that carries meaning for its users. Its rules are not the rules of what we call Standard American Language. But it is NOT ungrammatical--any more that the fact that English doesn't mark for singular or plural second person (you) in the way that most other Western languages (all the Romance languages, German sometimes yes sometimes no) do. Interestingly, we see an attempt to mark number this way in such slang terms as "youse" or "you-all."
Whether it's smart for speakers of Ebonics to use it when speaking to non-users (particularly in work situations or other situations where SAE is the language used by most speakers) is another issue for debate. And before we get too worked up, it's useful to remember that most Americans go to other countries and are angry when people there don't speak OUR language. Yes, we tend to have economic power that makes it incumbent on others to know English, but that doesn't make it somehow "right" in a purely linguistic sense.
And, yes, Cosby strikes me as a dick of the highest order. Could never listen to his monologues as a kid for very long, thought the Fat Albert stuff got old fast, and couldn't sit through any of his sit-comes.
I have a PhD and a PsyD. The difference between a PsyD or EdD and a PhD is significant. He bought his way through UMass. His wife, however, produced some great academic work.
Check out r48-putting out facts and reasonable argument to put a contentious topic into a fair context.
Jesus Christ (wo)man, what are you doing here?
Cosby earned his bachelor degree for "life experience".
The drugging -
What's Chris Rock like? I've read he's arrogant, but not out and out mean. Same with Seinfeld.
[R7] I don't know about Asian hookers, but he likes white prostitutes. A friend of mine worked with him years ago and said he is an unbelievable womanizing pig.
[quote]Who gives a f--k about Wanda Dykes ?
I do. She's an out gay person, and she is genuinely funny.
The latter is more than I can say for Bill Cosby.
It's highly pretentious for anyone with an academic doctorate to demand to be addressed publicly as "doctor." Inside academia is another beast entirely.
When I was a kid I laughed until I cried at The Chicken Heart routine. Good times.
I thought the Ebonics business was designed to get grant money to schools which had a significant portion of the student body speaking non-standard English. The state had grant or program money available to schools with significant student populations whose primary language wasn't English. Some school or schools was/were trying to get some of that money to fund their own language programs. If I understood this properly, they weren't justifying they use of non-standard English, they actually wanted to remedy the language skills of their students.
I know Bill has not been the same since his son was murdered - he was devastated by this. It doesn't bother me that he's a little curmudegeonly to people. I also don't have a problem with his mandate for some folks in our community to straighten up and fly right; him saying it is a lot better than some patronizing white liberal or a clueless WASP right-winger doing the same. He grew up in those neighborhoods - not to far from where my mother was born and raised. He knows just what he's talking about.
As far as his degree, don't know and don't care. I have a bachelor's, that's all I know.
Maybe self-described "little girls" have no business working with the grown-ups in showbiz.
Gee, a rich, famous and powerful celebrity had an attitude issue which this poor, innocent little female 20-plus years ago. Boo fucking hoo.
Cosby's welcome to state his opinions, and they carry some force, obviously, with some people.
It's his manner I find offensive. His put-down, hectoring, mean attitude. The fact that he represents so many unfortunate stereotypes himself ought to provide him evidence of how appearances can be deceiving.
I always heard that Cosby had some "help" with the writing of his dissertation/thesis (rumor was that his wife did much of it)--have no idea if that is true or not, though I worked with people who graduated from UMass who swore it was.
Incidentally, I have two Ph.D.s (different disciplines, obviously--and still not sure it was worth doing both). Where I teach, most students either address their teachers as "Professor X" (since not all college professors have doctorates--there are fields where a professional masters is the terminal degree) or by our first names. Fine with me either way--I always say they are welcome to call me by my first name as long as they understand they there is still a power differential at the end of the day (i.e. I still give the grade). The older I get, the more likely they are to address me as "Professor X" or "Dr. X" (no, my last name is not X)--sigh. What we non-MDs usually don't care for is when people (usually our students' parents) simply call us "Doctor" (no last name)--it feels like I am expected to treat their illnesses.
Why am I here? The gay gossip and pointless bitchery, like everyone else. What, you don't college teachers enjoy those things, too? We learned from masters, Aunt Penniman.
Paul Newman's son died young too. His solution was to use his wealth and fame to try to prevent others from dying as his son did.
Here's how one properly judges this sort of situation. You first look at the person telling the story. And she sounds like a hysterical nut. She's going to "spit on his grave" and wishes him dead because he once yelled at her? Wow. She's completely nuts.
So am I supposed to believe her story, when she's clearly overwrought and not quite there? Umm, no.
I have no doubt that he can be a douche. All celebrities are. I've worked with a few. They live in a complete bubble where they expect to be coddled and praised and treated with kid gloves. Yet they insist that they want to be treated like everyone else, and don't expect special treatment. While they simultaneously demand special treatment.
But this woman sounds mentally ill.
While I haven't been a Cosby fan since the Fat Albert years, I will posit there's a huge difference between having a drug-addicted son OD and having a son murdered by random strangers just because he happened to have car trouble after dark.
Doesn't excuse Cosby from his dickishness, which long predated Ennis' murder.
It's likely this woman has exaggerated the story and played it in her head a million times. I've been around enough women to know that is the likely scenario.
Bill probably took her comment as a sign of disrepect and exploded. Or he exploded because he didn't want to be interrupted.
Some people seem to think if you ask you will get want you want. That is not the case many times. You have to demand it. You have to get on people's backs to get them to do the work.
It's kind of interesting that black people are preached to by black men.
[quote] I've been around enough women to know that is the likely scenario.
Enjoy your stereotyping R67. Care to cast some generalisations about ethnic minorities and gays too?
F&F for R60 -- and BTW, this is why I hate you bitchy queens who reek of jealousy and wish you had a pussy and want to have straight men's ass-babies, whatever the fuck THAT means.
Your comment, R60, that women should expect to be raped, and if they're disturbed by it, they should grow the fuck up, is beyond the pale.
Come over here, little boy, and let me sodomize you with my steel-toed boot while you beg for Mommy.
I'm not seeing anything about rape, R71.
[quote]him saying it is a lot better than some patronizing white liberal or a clueless WASP right-winger doing the same.
I'm more interested in what is said than who says it. There is of course the aspect of why it is said, but that should be clear in the statement. Or do we think that the race of a person can undermine what they have to say. There's plenty of folks that wouldn't agree with his comments who came from a similar background, so he's hardly a spokesperson.
[quote]I will posit there's a huge difference between having a drug-addicted son OD and having a son murdered by random strangers just because he happened to have car trouble after dark.
Oh, I see. One got what was coming to him and the other was an innocent. Have I got that right r65?
I will [bold]posit[/bold] that losing a child is a devastating experience, no matter what the cause.
R71 you are unhinged. R60 said nothing about rape. You're the one who expressed violence against another human being.
Jeeze, take a Midal and watch some I Love Lucy. Chill, darlin.
You're right, R74. It's devastating no matter what the cause. Yet, I think there is a difference, but not in the way R65 thinks. I think it is actually more difficult for parents to accept that their child was the cause of his or her own death.
Remember the people who believed there was such a thing as the Smiley Face Killer(s)? That there was a killer or killers roaming the country killing college age young men by pushing them into bodies of water and then tagging the area with smiley faces. There were parents who insisted that's how their sons died. Yet, there was no credible evidence to support it. What the evidence pointed to was their sons drinking too much and doing something careless (going for a swim in deep rivers, climbing up on the railings of bridges, etc). It seemed easier for them to believe that someone murdered their children than to believe that their children were engaged in reckless behavior.
Google the lawsuit or lawsuits in which he was sued for allegedly drugging women and then forcing himself on them. Also, google plagiarism, Cosby and dissertation.
I bet he even returns used enemas to his local CVS.
I doubt it, R78. Cosby looks like he would be a happier man if he indulged in an occasional enema.
He has been sued more than once for drugging women. Sounds like he enjoys offering to help women with their careers, inviting them to join him alone for a drink, then spikes their drink and gets right to business. Women wake up later in a daze. When several accusations like this arise it sure looks like he much more than a narcissist.
Several years ago when I was trying to break into screenwriting, I ran into Mr. Cosby and asked for five minutes of his time to pitch my script. He put me in touch with his production company and the script was optioned.
I'll always remember his kindness in granting me my first break.
So, R81, does that preclude his drugging and raping multiple women?
His hiring a good screenwriter would benefit him as much as it did you, if not more.
The stories can't be any worse than the Deb Messing horror stories. Let me tell you about Deb Messing.
And just when will Leonard Part 7 be released, R81?
He was really good in I Spy.
[quote]She's going to "spit on his grave" and wishes him dead because he once yelled at her? Wow. She's completely nuts.
He exploded in rage and berated and humiliated a 19-year-old woman who attempted to engage him in a social pleasantry. He sounds completely nuts. Remember, he sells himself as being wise and wonderful where younger folk are concerned.
He's an educator, y'know?
[quote]I always heard that Cosby had some "help" with the writing of his dissertation/thesis (rumor was that his wife did much of it)-
I suppose it's because he's black huh? Oh heaven forbid a black man should be capable of doing something other than fathering children.
A friend had a major role in the Carson Productions. Cosby was one of the most hated guest that would appear on the show.
You're an idiot, R57.
Isn't his wife black, R88?
This really is nothing more than idle gossip, but one of my friends from high school went to Morehouse. During his freshman year, Bill Cosby's son was the senior assigned to him as a sort of big brother. They stayed in touch for a while, but my friend was just a public schooled, lower middle class, scholarship kid from a Houston suburb. Ennis was apparently a nice enough guy, but was really snobbish about his status as Bill Cosby's son. My friend really grieved over his death and regretted losing touch, talking (mild) shit about him, etc.
I hate that asshole Cosby but Wanda Sykes is an annoying fuck. I agree with him on dissing her.
I assume R81 is a person of color...
Bill Cosby, new star of thughunters.com
Also don't forget the time he humiliated quadrapelegic Teddy Pendergrass.
[quote]Teddy Pendergrass was scheduled to present Bill Cosby an award at a function in Philadelphia. He says, "Bill came on stage, then surprised me and everyone else there by walking up to me, dropping a microphone in my lap and saying, "I'm not leaving here until you pick up that mike." This was totally unplanned and I was taken aback. As I sat in my wheelchair, all I could do was shake my head no. I couldn't even venture to guess why Bill was doing this. Did he think he was helping me? That putting me on the spot like this and making me struggle was somehow good for me? If Bill really knew me, he'd know how much I'd overcome just to be there. I thought Bill would get the message when I refused, so you can imagine my shock and horror when he shouted, "I'm not leaving here until you pick up that mike!" A nervous silence fell over the crowd. I was embarrassed, humiliated and furious. Didn't he realize how devastated I'd be if I failed.
The man needs to go away.
R88. Has nothing to do with him being black. I've had a lot of students plagiarize and the vast majority are white.
so, for fairness, let me state: Henry Louis Gates is NOT a plagiarist.
OMG, the story about Teddy Pendegrass is a heartbreaker...it brought tears.
When my sister met Bill Cosby in Chicago, she was a hot young blonde. She asked him if he wanted to go "shake a leg," and he said no very rudely. She always hated him for that, while I secretly found it amusing. Ha, ha, catty older sister!
Bratty Younger Sister
[quote]Eventually the security took him from the studio until time for his monologue.
Oh come on, bullshit. Does anyone really believe that the guest-host of The Tonight Show was removed from the studio by security because he was yelling at a P.A. who very likely had no business at all butting into whatever it was he was doing at the time?
Sure, he overreacted and yelled and screamed at her, and she was humiliated and probably frightened... but come one... this part of her story is pure bullshit, so what else about her rant is also bullshit?
What 2 things can you never give a nigger?
1) black eye
I had a personal experience with Dr. Cosby quite a few years before the tragic murder of his son Ennis. I was a very tall, blond, fit F/A working in First Class from DFW-LAS. After the bulk of the service was completed, he felt perfectly comfortable and welcome(no) to join me on my jumpseat as I hurriedly woofed down my crew meal. GREAT.
Being mashed and propositioned was nothing new for me, and I am not a prude. But I was literally freight trained by the man. He wanted me to join him at the hotel at which he was performing for the duration of the gig. I politely attempted to demur, stating that I was involved and I would not engage in any sort of pairing with a married man. I am telling you that man worked me with the subtlety of a jackhammer for the rest of the flight.
So, he definitely has no bias against white women if they appeal to him. I just found him gross, but not arrogant or mean spirited.
On one other point, I love the history and usage of Ebonics. I see it very much as I do Cajun, pidgin Hawaiian, Geechie and other regional dialects. I agree, one would be well advised to utilize the King's English while in a business or educational environment, but why not have the option to communicate with ones family and peers in a common language?
No one would criticize a Hawaiian for the accepted use of their native pidgin
with their fellow islanders. Why does the speaking of Ebonics bother Caucasians so? Yep.
I love how datalounge gets all up in arms and self righteous about a woman stating that she will spit on someone's grave because they humiliated and debased her and yelled in her face, saying she is clearly mentally ill, when the average datalounger would not hesitate to spit on someone's grave if they wore white after Labor Day.
Priorities, R103 Priorities.
Some things just can not be tolerated.
You people obviously never watched "The Cosby Show." If you had, you would know that he is a very intelligent and kind man. He was never mean to anyone on that show. You just can't stand that a black man is a success!
r105 The Cosby show was not a documentary, you know that, right?
Saw him on the Tonight Show some years ago with Leno. He came on and was upset that he had just come off a flight and found out that during the flight when he asked for wine it was from a small poptop can and not a mini bottle. It was like, "How dare they." The audience seemed a little stunned that he would be upset over that.
A doc about Cosby is being filmed. Should be interesting.
My friend, who's white FWIW, has a local radio show about jazz and blues and somehow got introduced to Bill Cosby. My friend invited him on the show thinking it would probably never happen, but Cosby came on the show and actually sat and talked with my friend for over two hours about music. My friend's daughter, who's 7, was in the office and Cosby asked if he could talk to her and she had a wonderful time talking to him. Apparently he was really sweet with her.
That's my Cosby story.
Cool r109. I am glad to hear it, I hope he is sometimes nice, he can't always be a dick. I saw his show in Palm Springs after his son died, it was kind of boring but I can understand why.
You can't believe women. They lie too much and Wanda is an ugly old dyke. Cosby wins.
On the other hand, you should always believe men in general and the queens on DL in particular.
Ha, R112 wins.
Oh..I didn't even know this thread was still open. I figured r111 had closed it with his decisive statement and power to deduce what was really true. Thanks for letting us still play.
My Cosby experience was through some elderly relatives.
They had written to NBC to request tickets to his TV show, they received four tickets, they gave two to their neighbors.
At the time, the show was being filmed at the Kaufmann Astoria Studios in Astoria Queens, Kaufmann was located near my relatives home.
It was a very bad rainy day, the people with the advance tickets, which my relatives and their neighbors had, were required to stand in the rain almost for an hour. Everyone on that line assumed they were going inside, these were not stand-by tickets.
A security guard was about to check the tickets, but just as this long line of people were about to be let into the studio, two private buses from some black organization pulled up.
The tired people who had waited on that long line in the rain, were shocked to see the people from the buses were being immediately escorted into the studio. The people on the line were furious, all of them, mostly white and Hispanic people, were turned away.
My aunt wrote to NBC with photocopies of the tickets added to her letter, she received no response, let alone an explanation as to why guaranteed seating meant nothing as soon as those buses pulled up. NBC/Cosby's production company wasn't even courteous enough to send them replacement tickets for another filming.
This incident spoke volumes to me about Cosby's hatred of the 'little people' especially white people.
I'm sure my aunt was not the only one to complain about this incident, she heard others say they were going to write or call NBC to complain. Unfortunately, this happened pre-cell phone cameras and pre-digital cameras, so one one was there to record what was going on, then immediately email the photos to NBC.
You've got to hand it to R101, he knows how to get a DL thread deleted.....
[quote][This incident spoke volumes to me about Cosby's hatred of the 'little people' especially white people.
Oh good god, exaggerate much?
Chances are Cosby had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
Imma say it. The man has done much more good for mankind from I Spy civil rights TV show to of course being one of America's favorite TV dads, historical accomplishments for one man of any race.
As for the pushy broad -pffft. Most great men are fucked up but this one happens to be black deal with it.
He IS a monster. At least 11 inches, but he was old when he took "it" out, so I told him, to throw himself in the East River and try Riker's Island
Well R116, that happens all the time. The tickets you have are secondary to the tour bus people who consistently fill the audiences for the shows. I've been to LA several times and that happened when I was in line for several shows including The Price is Right, my nieces wanted to go. I got bumped from two shows my group was thrilled to have gotten tickets for.
When she was good, she was VERY good...
[quote]Who's to say Ebonics is not proper?
The Pendergrass story alone would be sufficient to brand Cosby as one of the Entertainment worlds Biggest Unwiped Assholes.
R123 "Biggest Unwiped Assholes."
Yeah, the Teddy story is not only mean but downright disturbing.
"Chances are Cosby had nothing whatsoever to do with it."
Really? If it's YOUR TV show, you had better damn well know what the fuck is going on re how your FANS are being treated by the people you have approved to work for YOU! I can't believe anyone can be so clueless.
You mean to tell me, the people in charge, who Cosby most likely hired and approved/knew of their actions, had nothing to do with two full buses of black people being let inside the studio before the ticket holders were? My aunt told me, "Even the security guys were stunned when the people from the bus were quickly being let in as ticket holders waited in the rain for so long."
I refuse to believe that the legit ticket holders would have been bumped had those buses been filled with white people. I always thought Bill Cosby was a racist, though it appears he became more upfront about it as he aged.
"Well [R116], that happens all the time. The tickets you have are secondary to the tour bus people who consistently fill the audiences for the shows."
Did you READ my post? Reading comprehension at DL does not exist. I NEVER stated the buses were TOUR buses, they were from some black organization based in Manhattan.
An angry person on the ticket holder line had asked one of the people from the bus where they were from, they were not tour buses.
Chill the fuck out, R126 R127
Perhaps it's your own reading comprehension that could use some improvement.
You're unhinged about a minor incident from over two decades ago, and one that you had no involvement in.
Who's clueless here?
I hope you get a good sleep, you need it.
"Perhaps it's your own reading comprehension that could use some improvement."
There's absolutely nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, I also have an incredible memory for details. I do remember exactly what my aunt told me about this incident. I remember how upset she was, especially, having waited for the tickets, then waiting forever on a line.
The fact that her letter re-counting the incident wasn't even acknowledged by anyone within the Cosby organization, or at least by someone at NBC who was handling audience relations, was the ultimate in rudeness.
Celebrities seem to forget without fans they are nothing, it's true, but it's never discussed. No one gets famous and rich because a handful of people enjoy their work.
What's got YOU so unhinged and defensive? The fact that so many people in this thread are calling Bill Cosby out on his selective racism. Perhaps he doesn't hate all white people, he sure likes those Caucasian blondes with big tits, huh?
R12 is simply an angry fool. Talk about a chip on the shoulder...
A friend is his personal chef at his Berkshires home. Friend likes working for him. Wish I had more dirt.
He is indeed a big Racist. Absolutely Hates white people. He ranted and raved one night on the tonight show about how he would both allow any white people to work on his show. He really showed his ass that night and I never watch a ything he was in afterward.
"So, he definitely has no bias against white women if they appeal to him"
I know women will never understand this, but sometimes men have sex with women to degrade them. That's what some get off on. It's sort of rape-lite.
But was he as mean as Johnny Carson?
[quote]He ranted and raved one night on the tonight show about how he would both allow any white people to work on his show.
Back before the internet age, people used this all the time: xxx said it on the Tonight show! And now, you really have to prove something like that. Can you cite a source for this? I can't find anything about it on the 'net.
He was pretty rude to me once. I was working overnights at a hotel 10 years ago and he was staying there. He called to the front desk a few times and was particularly short with me for no reason at all. Each time I answered the phone after our initial conversation, we asked to speak to Yolanda, my coworker, who is black. She was on the phone yapping and laughing with him. He did come down to the desk and chatted with her for a good 15 minutes and ignored me. Oh well.
Yolanda was a sweetheart and I miss her a lot, btw.
I hate him just for his massive praise of Pisslam. Remember, this is the religious cult where 80+% of its members think homosexuals deserve to die. Anybody who thinks a culture that cruel, bloodthirsty and backwards is wonderful obviously has dozens of screws loose.
Not to mention the hypocritical audacity he has to moralize at the black community when he himself has been cheating on his wife throughout his married life. He utterly reeks of bullshit.
11 inches? wow that's a lot, I always found him so hot and very handsome.
Tiger Woods R13.
That should be R133
Very Rude Asshole. He hates white people.
Cosby was doing Seinfeld before Seinfeld.
But once he leaves the stage he is a bastard. And a pig.
The "genius" prima donna has repercussions for regular folks like us. It gives people the idea that if you are an asshole, you are necessarily some kind of superior being.
Cosby is a nasty excuse of a human being. Can't stand the jerk.
I have no idea if Cosby hates white people, but he's no fan of poor black people either. I'm not American but I've heard him ranting about on two different interviews, one with Oprah, about black people who are on welfare, black single mothers, irresponsible poor black men etc as though it was strictly a black issue. I waited for him to offer a suggestion on how things could be improved or talk about the importance of education or discuss the importance of having a plan. He didn't do any of that, he just ranted as though all these poor black people stuck in a cycle of poverty and crime needed to just stop being poor. He behaved as though they were an embarrassment to him personally. It was odd.
As Richard Pryor once said, "Fuck that Jello-pudding eating asshole!" Cosby is such an unfunny, arrogant, pompous, sleazy, crooked, hypocritical, 1000% RACIST, house-n****r testament to everything mankind has ever done wrong. Who can't speak a coherent sentence. When that pig dies not only will I dance on his grave, I'll lead an entire C-walking class across it. Utter trilobyte, invertebrate sewer-residue of comedy.
Cosby has trouble keeping assistants because he is so rude to them. I know a gal who was working for him, and on the first day he said to her in the limo, "I am going to earn more money today, than you will earn in your entire life." She waited until the car came to a stop and just got out and walked away. She has yet to return, or give a shit about it.
R147, would you happen to know if that job is still available?
Does the Black Community think he's funny?
According to his website his next concert is the Hall County Fair in Grand Island, Nebraska next week, and just a wild guess, but I'm thinking that audience will be pretty fucking white.
So nowadays he's playing county fairs, amusement parks, and Indian casinos?
Time to stop looking at the women who have come
Forward to accuse him but let's look at the man
Who is being accused. Why would they want to suffer
The embarrassment and the shame talking about this!
Prescient thread. How so many over the years enabled Cosby the Rapist/Abuser. Monster indeed.
WATCH THAT VINDALOO, BITCH!
This has been great reading these older posts.
R102 are you still out there?
[quote] Does anyone really believe that the guest-host of The Tonight Show was removed from the studio by security because he was yelling at a P.A. who very likely had no business at all butting into whatever it was he was doing at the time?
I know that was posted 2 1/2 years ago, but yeah, I do believe it. Cosby has a history.
Back in the 1980s, there were multiple reports of him abusing staff on the Cosby Show. Here's one, which includes a photo of him with a crew member in a headlock. Nobody looks like they're laughing.
"You can't believe women. They lie too much and Wanda is an ugly old dyke. Cosby wins."
Wherever you are, I hope life is not kind to you. And I am sure it isn't.
[quote]Back before the internet age, people used this all the time: xxx said it on the Tonight show! And now, you really have to prove something like that. Can you cite a source for this? I can't find anything about it on the 'net.
People still try to pull this stunt, even with the internet. I just got into an argument on HTF with a guy who insisted there was some "PC thought police editing" of a show to remove a homophobic slur. No matter how many YT videos we show him that prove the original episode already had the edit (because even in the 1970s, the slur was unacceptable) he insists he saw it back in 1973 and KNOWS it was there.
I've seen that on a few Cosby show thread comments, too, people who saw some 1960s Tonight Show where X happened but there's no evidence the episode even existed.
Lisa Bonet seems to obviously dislike Cosby and stays away from him. Maybe he made some sort of pass towards her? And surely if Cosby was attacking or molesting women around the set, she had the opportunity to hear one of them talk about it. Maybe someone warned her to stay out of his way, and she realized what was happening and was very offended. Or maybe she threatened to go to the police and was bought off.
Maybe she came in contact with one of his victims and heard the story then. She's always been silent about why she dislikes him, but it's very obvious.
Funny because I've been waiting for Ken Levine to comment on this. He probably doesnt want to show tool much schadenfreude.
I do think a lot of the general public who grew up with The Cosby Show are genuinely disappointed and sad, but I suspect most of the people actually in the business are just cackling.
Any female employee or intern now will just look at him, were Cosby to ask to be watched eating or touched or in any way kow-towed to, and laugh in his face.
Its all jealousy and racism people. Dr. Cosby is a great man and a great humanitarian. He is being railroaded because a certain segment of the population, one that has all the power, can't stand to see a man of color enjoying success. Please don't judge the doctor until a court of law find him guilty. Thank you. That is all.
R161, I know about a great land deal. I'll be happy to hook you up with the developer if you pay me a finder's fee.
At least he's not gay.
R3 is an indication how the asses come out when the shit flies.
DON'T try to make this about calls for education and citations that language use is associated with both education and employability.
You don't even know where the term Ebonics stems from. Stop now. There is plenty to rail on the disgusting Cosby about without attempting, in this era, to use the term "Oreo," you racist troll.
R161, 'doctor' LOL.
Dr. Cosby can now join the ranks of Dr. Frankenstein, Dr. Moreau, Dr. Evil and Dr. Mengele.
If Lisa Bonet doesn't speak up, I hope that Lenny Kravitz says something. He probably heard an earful from her while they were married.
There are several blind items stating Bonet was sexually assaulted by him but will probably not come forward because she has started getting some acting roles again.
It's funny for years when I was a kid my dad would tell the story about how he asked Bill Cosby for an autograph and Cosby rudely blew him off. Then one day in DC I see Cosby at Union Station and ask for and autograph and he blew me off too. It was like a rite of passage.
R9, you're a ridiculous fool. Actually Cosby is very interesting and he's worked for so many decades, because he can be extremely funny. He's also a huge douche. Are you interesting? Personally, I doubt if you have enough brain to be interesting.
He's not gay...that's the best part of this.
R161, what are racism people?
Damn I wish Joan Rivers was still here. I bet she knew the dirt on Cosby. I wonder if they got along?
She probably didn't care as long as he didn't bother her (and he wouldn't), R173.
[quote]Another comes forward. When will it end?
Uh Oh, she was 15.
Too bad you didn't have a handy grease fire.
Let's leave the Cosby kids out of this. Raven wants no part of this and Bonet has made no comments despite the fake one.
Anyway, I was curious about what Bonet was up to and oh my GOD, her husband is gorgeous.
He sure looks like a monster these days, with those googley-ass cataract eyes. They were really planning to give him a new TV show looking like that?? I can't even look at him!
Another example of Cosby being a jerk.
Most if not all the women are clearly speaking from the heart. Cosby is speaking from his attorneys.
They're saying he's a Somnophiliac now. Like necrophilia, except breathing.
[quote]Here I am a little girl in essence
I hate when women play this little game. If she was 19 years old and had a full-time job, she was an adult and she knows it.
You would never hear a man talking about an incident that happened when he was 19 years old trying to make himself more of a victim by saying, "Here I am a little boy in essence..."
That one wide-open eye, and one half-closed, doesn't help either.
I watched all 8 seasons of the Cosby Show last year and I got the feeling during Season 1 that Lisa Bonet and Cosby had something going on between them. The way they would look at each other, she seemed infatuated with him and he with her. They would kiss on the mouth often. She was only 16 when the show started.
R186 She's saying she was young, a teenager and inexperienced as opposed to a mature woman. It's only a game in your mind.
[quote]Gloria Allred representing 3 new ones
Good! She'll nail the bastard's balls to the wall.
Oh lord, now that there are many women accusing him of rape, he's suddenly a rude, hateful, il-tempered, evil man too?
So anyone who ever had a run in with the guy gets his few minutes of fame now?
This thread was started two years ago. There was no bandwagon to jump on at the time.
R20 I believe you mean we should leave that up to the good people of Schvartza. They be knowin de propa Ebonics. Their President could be Jesse Jerkson or Fat/Now Emaciated Al Sharton. Both of these buffoons are ministers without a church. Has either one of them ever led a real service?
It's great to see that we got inside info on Jackass Cosby two years before he hit the headlines.
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LOL @ 'googly-ass cataract eyes'!
Not to mention the hordes of tarry little black warts all over his face. All that money and no aesthetic sense of himself whatsoever. Gross x 1000.
Whenever I saw Cosby in later years, I couldn't help but think of Dorian Gray. Still can't. Ugly on so many levels.
As far as comedy, I'd take a Barry Humphries over a Bill Cosby any day.
I still say though, don't be surprised if what this is all really about is to discredit the women and their rape claims which will reinforce/invent new laws against women's rights. And the whole UVA thing is the manna his attorneys could only have dreamt of. A lot of people grossly underestimate how serious the social fundamentalists, religous and not, are in the world. They've turned back on civil voting rights and on women's access to safe, legal abortions. They've repealed gay marriage laws that had popular Yes votes. What better way than to say,"See what these feminazi's will stoop to in order to desroy a GOOD MAN?!"
okay, that last part might've been too dramatic...
his male appendage IS a monster.
He banged me so hard I went lez
I'm so tired of the lazy racists who claim that Cosby is being accused because he is African American. The only people perpetuating racism actively in the country now, in any overt way, are the people who cannot let go of the fact that sometimes a brother is a creep, a criminal, and not a credit to his community.
Shut up already. It's become a game of "Separate by Choice, Ever Victimized because of Convenience and Habit, Defensive and Dishonest because of Cowardice and Getting Away with It."
I have to agree with you, r190.
Yet, r186, many try to describe 22-year-old Monica L. as a girl.
"I Spy" is shown on retro stations. Cosby was a pretty good actor, and handsome, too. Some people here seem to think he looked then like he looks now.
Anyone else find it interesting that his co-stars from the Cosby Show, have been deafeningly silent?
I find it amazing how he became so famous if this many people hated him.
He got famous in the early 60s, right?
As racist as hollywood still is I find it hard to believe that an obviously violent racist rapist was coddled and forgiven?
Funny for a black person who clearly doesn't like white people, he targeted white women to drug and rape. He should be thrown in jail. He is a disgusting racist rapist.
"As racist as hollywood still is I find it hard to believe that an obviously violent racist rapist was coddled and forgiven?"
Anything and everyone is forgiven as long as he brings in major $$$$ which Cosby did. Hollywood is a boys club and many men in power are probably similarly rapist/borderline rapist.
Bill Cosby may be a lot of things, R202, but he was never handsome.
Yes, r203, as in more evidence that he is as guilty as the day is long.
Even when stars are GUILTY they have co-stars coming out of the woodwork defending them.
"Bill Cosby Breaks Silence: I Only Expect Black Media to Remain ‘Neutral’ Amid Rape Allegations"
Oh please, r207. He's always hated young black men more than he's ever even remotely disliked white people. He was considered an 'Uncle Tom' by many before this sex scandal ramped up.
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[quote]As racist as hollywood still is I find it hard to believe that an obviously violent racist rapist was coddled and forgiven?
It's because he went to all the right parties, hint hint.
Hahaha at him running to black media now.
They always run back to us when they're in big trouble. This is even more pathetic than when Michael Jackson was hanging with Farrakhan and Nation of Islam bodyguards.
Fuck you Pill Cosby. You are a piece of shit.
We hated your show. Only white middle America loved that corny snoozefest.
So....is he dog whistling that the allegations are a racist media conspiracy?
It's interesting that he didn't deny the charges. He just said only the black media can report responsibly on this....and then he praises the strength of womanhood likes he's Maya Angelou. Did he learn that at the Playboy Mansion?
Deflection, manipulation, accusations....not the actions of an honest man. Who does he think he's fooling?
His delusion is fascinating. I guess fame is a drug in the worst sense.
Don't fans ever take a read on their favorite celebrity? I would absolutely never ask for an autograph but seems like you could get a feeling who is a bitch. From the OP's link...
You could kind of tell that Steve Allen would be a bitch and I would never even have considered approaching Cosby.
Bill Cosby should have faded into obscurity a long time ago. He is now just a boring old man. He bores the whole public. Next?
R219, Pill Cosby is anything but boring right now. He's fascinating.
[quote] Funny for a black person who clearly doesn't like white people, he targeted white women to drug and rape. He should be thrown in jail. He is a disgusting racist rapist.
Why is that strange? Rape is about power not "ooh, she's pretty".
Johnny Carson beat his wife.
Will they do a Lifetime movie with one of his victims?
R209 - watching Bill Cosby in some of those old episodes of "I Spy" - my heart fluttered and loins tingled. It may be somewhat hard to believe seeing him now or watching The Cosby Show reruns - but he was pretty hot when he was in his twenties. Maybe not drop-dead gorgeous....but the body was pretty beautiful and his face was a lot more handsome than it would be later on. He is just one of those guys who steadily lost their sexy with each passing year....so that by the time The Cosby Show rolled around - there was practically nothing left.
What the fuck is wrong with Cosby's milky blue eye?
Is he a booze hound? He was never particularly attractive, but he's aged pretty badly in a way that I associate with big time drinkers.
He could be one of those "functional alcoholics" - I wouldn't be surprised at this point.
And whatever he's doing may have intensified after Ennis' murder.
Bill Cosby sounds like a man who fully realized that the world is full of assholes.
[quote]And I don't think Lisa Bonet has had anything to do with him since she left A Different World
After she left A DIFFERENT WORLD (after just one season, 1987-1988) she returned to THE COSBY SHOW, believe it or not. Her storyline was that college wasn't for her. Then she left in the middle of the 5th season (1988-1989) to go to Africa. In actuality, she had to take maternity leave to have Zoe, her daughter with Lenny Kravitz. Denise returned from Africa in the first episode of the 6th season (1989-1990) with a new naval officer, Martin, husband and his daughter, Olivia. Bonet stayed on through to the end of the 7th seasons (1990-1991). Apparently, she had another falling out with Cosby, because though she's never seen again, she's often referenced throughout the rest of the show. It was especially weird when Martin & Olivia would appear without her, even more so in the very last episode when Theo graduated from NYU and everyone in the family was there, except for her.
Too much information, homo.
Cosby hot? He had and has the fugliest face I've ever seen.
Time to let this racist thread die. Cosby ain't going down no matter what a bunch of idiot lesbians on this message board think. The laugh is on you. So shut the fuck up cunts
Too bad Law & Order is no longer on the air.
I would have LOVED to see their version of this "ripped from the headlines" episode.