Well wasn't Calvin married a few times too - and has a daughter? So what - that crowd seems to be desperately in search of something that eludes them, like inner peace.
Looks happy with a woman.
The very definition of "gay for pay".
Calvin was paying. The girl is not.
He's a whore, darlin'
The tacky photos
And the phony smiles
Well It's a bozo's world
And you're a bozo's child
R17 = Exodus
Gay Porn = $$$
Calvin Klein = $$$$$
Random girl = FREE
Your sexuality is defined by who you fuck for free.
My guess-this is all about maintaining the 'brand' Grizzled flesh peddlers are buying in the fantasy of a getting a young,'straight'stud(well,doughboy in this case)!
I love how "gay" is always $$$ on datalounge.
And, we love it.
Just the thought of fucking the cadaverous Calvin Klein makes me shiver. He could totally be one of the zombies on Walking Dead at this point.
I knew he was heterosexual. That whole thing with Calvin Klein was a sham. Sadly, there are a lot of desperate and messed up gay mne like Calvin Klein that will pass up real relationships with other gay men to be with heterosexual males who they worship.
I got to fuck a straight boy!
His personal grooming says gay. And he styled himself like that before Klein.
2 observations - in the main shot, his outstretched leg screams gay pose. And in the kissing shots, with the girl, his mouth is barely open - with Klein, he's like a wide mouth bass, all open mouth, & tongue. Could be with Klein, he's simply thinking of the $$$, but the girl shots all look set up.
[quote]His personal grooming says gay
There a lot of messy-looking gays, hon.
Anyone remember Scott Thorson ? He's the blonde boy who was with Liberace, got into drugs, got dumped , then sued Lee, for palimony (and lost).
Went on to marry, and have kids - but still seems like a big ol queen.
They are making his story this summer, with Michael Douglas as Lib, Matt Damon as Thorson. Shooting begins soon.
Michael Douglas is the same age Liberace was when he DIED, and Matt Damon is about 20 (!) years older than Thorson was at the time. Odd casting choices.
Nick Gruber has always been bi-sexual. It's not a big shock.
He had sex with both men and women when he was in porn.
[quote]Here are the reactions from the girls..
Amazingly, I agree with the ONTD bitches more than the overall DL reaction. Gruber is obviously gay-for-pay and always has been. I entirely agree with R22: particularly with porn stars and rent boys, your true sexuality is best defined by who you fuck for free. And no, hooking up with men for cash doesn't define your intrinsic sexuality in any way, just as being a closet case with a wife you occasionally bang once every few months while fucking male tricks three times a week doesn't mean you're anything other than gay.
It means you're bisexual.
This chick will be gone in a matter of weeks, months tops.
How long do gay men usually stay interested in women anyways? Not long. Even old queens married to women for over 50 years. But, these women never liked sex to begin with so it works in favor of the gay man.
Maybe he is f2M.
This guy is NOT straight but he's messed up in the head and desperate for attention. Just a few months ago he was out of control on coke, gets dumped by CK, and heads off to rehab to deal with his issues. He obviously still hasn't and thinks going after a girl will bring him the happiness he can't seem to find anywhere else. In two months, we'll be hearing about another of his wacky (fucked up) adventures.
For some people sex is a commodity (or service) they either trade or pay for.
It's downright sad that Calvin Klein chose that thing as public fuck toy. You'd think with his kind of money and power he'd be able to choose from the best. Gruber isn't even Walmart standard. The only way the past relationship makes sense to me is if a) Nick was his drug dealer, b) the beard for some other boyfriend Calvin had on the downlow and the media wouldn't bother to dig deeper, or c) Nick was the only one who agreed to barebacking.
God, I would shoot myself if I were in rehab and some queen came in and all he could share about was being Calvin Klein's kept thang.
Can you imagine every time in group he started to talk, I bet the life was just sucked out of the room.
He has child-bearing hips.
Anna Wintour attended his 21st birthday party. I wonder if they still keep in touch.
[quote]Eldergays deserve some escorted love too you jealous bitches
Calvin isn't an Eldergay; he's the Nosferatu of schmattas. He farts dust and cums embalming fluid.
I am sure he and Anna are textmates.
Why does his belly look like a deflated balloon? He's far too young for that middle aged body. And I agree with another post here-If you're going to pay top dollar for a piece of ass,then get the BEST that money can buy. And this guy is NOT the best.
Bet his lips taste like Prep H.
[quote]This guy is NOT straight but he's messed up in the head and desperate for attention. Just a few months ago he was out of control on coke, gets dumped by CK, and heads off to rehab to deal with his issues.
Obviously he's fucked in the head and has issues, but there is ZERO indication that any of it has to do with his sexuality. How many times does it need to be established that straight guys have sex with men for money, either on camera or with a sugar daddy, and gay guys even occasionally have sex with women on camera? (case in point: straight porn god Rocco Reed, who just came out as gay after having an extensive career plowing the shit out of hundreds of women - see the lengthy thread we have on the topic)
[quote]I got to fuck a straight boy!
by: Calvin Klein
Puhleeze. You probably paid about $50,000 to suck on his nards for a few minutes each night. But fuck? No darling.
Why would a woman want a man who fucks other men? Are women that desperate for boyfriends? Or extremely insecure?
That is nasty, r47. Gross!
It's the same old story, old rich guy is paying someone to fake it for them. Do you really think all those young women who hang around Hugh Hefner are really into him? The same thing probably with this old guy & his wife at the link.
It doesn't even matter if this guy with CK was gay for pay or bi. Either way it was your typical rich guy young stud relationship all bought and paid for.
The girl is some kind of porn actress. Maybe he's thinking of going into straight porn.
Let's not forget that Brother Klein paid for the boys cosmetic work. That's probably in addition to whatever weekly stipend he was given.
your bi-phobia is showing.
R53, it's because of the REALITY that bisexuality in men is exceedingly rare, and most guys who claim they're bi are in actuality gay men afraid to fully commit to labeling themselves in such a fashion. (Btw that has nothing to do with this situation, as CK's fucktoy is clearly straight.)
Wow, R52, that 32 y/o woman has the butt of a teenager.
The swollen stomach is from alcohol.
Exceedingly rare? Have you carried out empirical research?
Why is she standing on her tip toes to kiss him? A staged photo op for sure.
[quote] Calvin isn't an Eldergay; he's the Nosferatu of schmattas. He farts dust and cums embalming fluid.
R43 is the cuntiest cunt who ever cunted! Keep it up, darling.
As for Nick Goober, he was definitely a paid whore. He did his job, and he was well compensated for it. He lived a jet set lifestyle, met tons of celebrities, and got a new set of choppers. Good for him.
Now he can settle down with his fellow porn trash girlfriend, and have lots of little future porn babies.
They're really quite a match.
Per the Daily Mail CK has paid for more than Nick's choppers even after they split up. He paid for his rehab "arranged to foot the monthly $35,000 bill for his paramour." "He had also arranged to pay for Gruber's private jet transfer, in fear that if the porn star flew commercial he would be tempted to drink alcohol..."
He "paid the rent for Gruber's luxury West Village penthouse apartment for two years and forked out thousands when the model needed plastic surgery after sustaining a skiing injury..."
He also helped him through his bulimia.
And the Daily News says :"Although the photos may shock those most familiar with Gruber through his relationship with Klein, the source says that before becoming the designer’s much younger boyfriend, most of his relationships were with women of his own age, and that he did both gay and straight porn."
R61, if Klein didn't cut him off before he paid for rehab, I'm guessing he has now. If he can't latch onto another sugardaddy soon he will be in the poorhouse, as a lot of kept men are after they get cut off and can't find a replacement. A return to gay porn or hooking under the radar is in his future. He has no education and his looks are going fast. It's doubtful he will ever encounter any of those famous people again and if he did they will act like they don't know him.
Really, R64? It's so rare to hear about a porn star being a con artist, though.
I can verify that R65. I know a model who got old and the whole "Best If Used By" date showed up. He was given millions over the years. And he didn't save a dime. These poor boys have been brainwashed into thinking they'll never age.
r7 and r8 where the tongues and lips of most men on this forum have been?
Three possibilities here:
1) He's straight and a whore who wanted to live the good life with a rich, famous person. Could have been a rich woman if he had found one.
2) He's BI
3) He's really gay and staged this with a friend to rub it in Klein's face.
Take your pick.
I guess having to lie on top of that cadaver known as CK every night took its toll...if an alligator had walked past Nick, he'd have jumped on it. Not that Nick is any prize - he's gross-looking and slimy.
Has Calvin Klein ever officially come out, a la Anderson Cooper?
It's always just a matter of time.
[quote]He's straight and a whore who wanted to live the good life with a rich, famous person. Could have been a rich woman if he had found one.
There's a reason you rarely see wealthy women -- true, non-celebrity wealth, that is, so Madonna and her ilk don't count -- carrying on with boy toys: women aren't sex-driven like men are, and they understand that it's undignified to have a younger plaything. I know plenty of millionaire women and only one who married a much younger man (no, I'm not naming names), in essence to piss off her ex-husband.
Anyway, your first sentence here is clearly correct. Young men whore themselves out for money, access and/or power all the time; just visit any pool party at Casa Geffen or Bryan Singer's place for proof. Nobody that young is actually *attracted* to geezers like David Geffen or Sandy Gallin, so regardless of actual orientation they're just in it for the $$$.
Bisexual dudes are hot.
Once you go vag, you never go vak.
"Nobody that young is actually *attracted* to geezers like David Geffen or Sandy Gallin, so regardless of actual orientation they're just in it for the $$$."
Which just goes to show that, despite all their money and power, Geffen, Gallin, et al, are just ordinary schlubs with little self respect or self esteem.
Why don't these designers and moguls date models? They could be paid in campaigns in CK's case and they are already hot and available. Why dip into the untouchable caste?
Baptiste Giabiconi is a gay-for-pay boyfriend to Karl Lagerfeld, too.
[quote]Which just goes to show that, despite all their money and power, Geffen, Gallin, et al, are just ordinary schlubs with little self respect or self esteem.
I wouldn't go THAT far. They're billionaires, not ordinary schlubs, and they understand that money can buy both power and young men. Like any rich straight guy with a trophy wife, they're more interested in looks than brains, so they fish around for the hottest studs they can get. They know they can get away with it and they DO, which actually indicates strong self-esteem and ego, not the other way around.
But, R79, your intelligent theory leaves out a crucial component-most of us want to be loved and with someone who thinks we're attractive and can connect with us sexually and romantically. It's a nice option these billionaires have but I doubt they're truly happy having to settle for the superficial.
R79, you don't see Warren Buffet or Bill Gates, guys who could buy and sell Geffen and Gallin a couple times over, running around chasing after people young enough to be their grandchildren and dropping thousands of dollars on their paid "friends."
Just because they can afford to act like jack asses doesn't mean they are paragons of mental health and stability.
Maybe they've become soured on romantic love, and their strong bonds are only with friends, family etc.
r79. Shallow people attract shallow lovers.
[quote]Like any rich straight guy with a trophy wife, they're more interested in looks than brains, so they fish around for the hottest studs they can get.
And all Calvin Klein could come up with was Nick Gruber. That's the tragedy of this public boytoy situation.
[quote]They know they can get away with it and they DO, which actually indicates strong self-esteem and ego, not the other way around.
I disagree. When you have to flaunt your fancy car, your fancy mansion, your pretty trophy wife or boytoy, pictures of your last fancy holiday trip(s), your wealth, your wit, your vast knowledge about everyone and everything, and your power you are basically telling everybody that you need their approval / fear / respect / admiration, because you suffer from low self esteem and believe that when you convince others that you are worth something maybe someday you will believe it yourself.
[quote]most of us want to be loved and with someone who thinks we're attractive and can connect with us sexually and romantically.
Clearly I'm more cynical than you are, but in my experience, most wealthy older men are egotistical pigs who care far more about arm candy and hot sex than any "deep romantic connection," and oftentimes dump their first wives or partners at the earliest opportunity for a younger, hotter plaything. This goes regardless of sexual orientation.
R83, you are making an incredibly broad generalization that doesn't apply to all. Not every rich person with a nice house and fancy car is needy and desiring affirmation and validation. Egotism is only sometimes, but by no means always, rooted in a lack of self-esteem.
Well they'll get mileage from this just-happened-to-be-there paparazzi photo op for a stab at any new porn movies hiring right now.
His belly needs reigning in though.
Call me old and cynical or call me CK
If I live long enough to be an old troll like Calvin Klein, you can best believe I will be hiring 21 year-old paid whores to service me. HOWEVER, it will be a strictly private, behind-closed-doors affair. I will never parade my young whores around with me in public like so many of these geezers do because it just looks tacky and pathetic. It's all about being discreet so as not to look like an old fool.
r85, so, when the shoe fits it's still something completely different like in this case?
I second r83.
[quote]women aren't sex-driven like men are, and they understand that it's undignified to have a younger plaything. I know plenty of millionaire women and only one who married a much younger man (no, I'm not naming names), in essence to piss off her ex-husband.
Actually the big difference where women are concerned isn't a lack of sex drive, it that their interest in sex is deeply rooted in being desired. They have no interest in paying for someone to fake it. That would be the ultimate humiliation. Men (both straight and gay) don't seem to be similarly afflicted. They can happily fuck someone who they know is only interested in what they can get from them.
Believe me, I do lust after much younger men and worship them from afar, but I would NEVER dream of paying one to fake an interest in me. The very idea makes me feel queazy.
True to an extent for many r90 but don't assume there aren't women out there that are prepared to go to ANY lengths to keep up fake appearances. Women can be more of a driving force for showmances than the men they cover for.
Especially if they are being 'desired' behind the fauxmance by a real hunk who adores them, they'll put up with anything. It' easy money, at the end of the day.
The very fact straight and gay bearding is such big business is because without the co-operation of women nobody could even do it.
[quote]Once you go vag, you never go vak.
You miss the point entirely R91. The discussion isn't about bearding and faking a relationship for MUTUAL career and/or financial benefit. That is a business transaction where no sexual relationship exists. We were talking about paying someone to have a sexual relationship with you knowing that they are not attracted to you and may even be repulsed. I don't know any women who would be interested in doing that (as the payer--not the payee). Men seem to have an easier time with it.
I agree with the posters on this thread asking the question, why would a woman have a relationship with and have sex with a bisexual guy when There are men who are 100% heterosexual who don't have the remotest attraction to the same sex and who truly want to be with his woman? If I was a woman, like hell I would give bisexual creeps the time of day! I think women who have sex with or marry bisexual men are completely stupid or they are major whores.
There was a poster on DL one time who said he was an old gay who met ,and knew many, many bisexual guys throughout the years. He said they are usually very sleazy who play mind games with their sex partner's at the point in time and they are lunatics. I am aware straight and gay men can be extremely negative, but I think bisexuals are much more losers and users. Also, bisexuals are much more chauvinistic than some straight guys.I have met many bisexual men who think women are sexually accessible,and they are there to be used and shoveled to the side when the bisexual guys are done using them. Or, they think women will stay in a relationship with their husband or boyfriend screwing around with a guy in the side because they would be understanding about it.Basically so many bisexual men think women are just sex objects.
The poster that claims someone can be gay or straight for money is full of it! If a guy is straight, there is not even a remote chance in hell he can get sexually aroused and not even a slightest erection for the same sex. The same goes for gay men,but in some cases here and there, they are usually very deeply closeted cases.
"Anyone remember Scott Thorson ? He's the blonde boy who was with Liberace, got into drugs, got dumped , then sued Lee, for palimony (and lost). Went on to marry, and have kids - but still seems like a big ol queen."
What what WHAT?? That slimeball.
Darlings....Money can not buy you class. Nick needs to get my new book "Cooking with Spam"
He's bulimic too? Yeah, he's gay.
Our love was as pure as morning rain.
I hate closeted heterosexuals. They should just come out and live their lives.
[quote]The very fact straight and gay bearding is such big business is because without the co-operation of women nobody could even do it.
"Big business"??? You've been reading waaaaaaaaay too much DataLounge, hon. At most a few dozen celebrities and public figures engage in the full-on bearding process.
And then she died.
Yeah and Hollywood is a bastion of realness, nice people and socialism! Dude YOU are the naive deluded fool!
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