It might just be the best show on network television. Why isn't it a bigger hit? It reminds me of shows like 'Arrested Development' and 'The Comeback' in that mainstream audiences didn't get the joke.
Don't like it, and don't like people telling me I'm stupid and don't get the joke because I don't like it. It's not funny!
I caught an episode Friday and it's a remarkably well oiled ensemble for a brand new show. I hope the stigma of being an off-season network experiment won't hurt its chances come the fall.
I love Alison Brie, and wanted to like this show, but I can't. It's just not funny.
The self-referential wankery got to be too much for me in the last season but I still really love this show. Every main character and major supporting character is played by a really great comic actor and I'm right in the target audience for most of the annoying nerd bait, so I can't get too mad at it.
It's clever but not funny.
"Community’s characters are a mixed bag of unlikable traits (self-absorbed, close minded, petty) – which is usually great fodder for jokes – but there’s no “straight man” to balance them out. Each character is stranger than the next so there's no pay-off. I guess their combined weirdness is supposed to elevate the study group to some higher level of existence. The group dynamic in Community, to steal a phrase from Family Guy, insists upon itself. And it’s exhausting."
"There has to be a character with heart to guide the wackiness; someone with more than a quip and a wink. I just have no attachment to any of them."
[quote]it's a remarkably well oiled ensemble for a brand new show.
Brand new????? Not hardly.
It will probably be a ratings winner if it had a laugh-track.
If Seinfeld was a single cam sitcom the audience would find them annoying then laughed at them.
The 1st season had some brilliant moments. The 2nd season still had some great moments, though it didn't really live up to expectations. Didn't figure out why Chevy stayed in the wheelchair, unless they just wanted him out of the storyline.
The 3rd season felt like the writers were on some kind of odd drugs. Abed split into 2 characters, and his dreamatorium seemed more like a sanitarium. All the characters were suspected of being mentally insane in more than one episode. John Goodman ran an evil air conditioning school, which I didn't get. The pillow/blanket fort documentary was not enough of a storyline to last 2 episodes.
The show still has great potential. They need to stop relying on the odd gags that would probably be much funnier on late night TV.
I would probably bet cash money that Chevy being stuck in the wheelchair all those episodes was entirely a result of his feud with Dan Harmon.
The "feud" was a lame attempt to get publicity for their dying show. There never was any "feud". And the publicity ploy failed as the ratings continued to tank.
I can understand not liking the show, but some of you seem angry with it. Why?
I appreciate that the network is trying something different but this show just isn't funny or entertaining. Is it over yet?
There are some astonishingly stupid people on DL.
[quote]There has to be a character with heart to guide the wackiness; someone with more than a quip and a wink. I just have no attachment to any of them.
This can describe Happy Endings as well. But that is just a much better show. They are able to succeed where Community Fails.
Community is exhausting.
I like Happy Endings.
The feud with Chevy was real. Dan Harmon was fired.
[quote]There has to be a character with heart to guide the wackiness; someone with more than a quip and a wink. I just have no attachment to any of them.
Yes, because if it is formulaic, it's too confusing for my little brain to process.
It's good, but it's no Parks & Recreation.
I loved the first two seasons, but I agree with R8 that it went off the rails at times this year - that dreamatorium episode was terrible.
I think it's one of those cases where a show starts playing to its nerdy, passionate fanbase. In the process, it becomes more obnoxious and provokes the internet fans to become even more stridently annoying.
The cast is brilliant - especially Gillian Jacobs & Alison Brie - and I hope that the new showrunners can illustrate that without just using self-referential in-jokes.
It didn't capitalize on Chevy's talent.
I like the video game episode. It was pretty good.
Whenever there's a thread about community on the DL it gets hardly any comments. I think there are 4 of us on here who enjoy it and I think that's reflective of the rest of the public.
Personally i think Community's problem is that it's very niched, it's pretty much aimed a college age demographic who get meta references and know what a "shipper" is. My friends are only in their 30s but they feel it's too young for them.I think its main problem is that it's whole premise is an in joke and most people aren't in on it.
Plus they're doing nothing with Chevys character. Chevy used to play guys like the Jeff character, but since they've given that cynical smart ass character to Joel Mchale there's nothing for chevy to do, since that's really his only forte. And the Shirley character could be more fleshed out. Shes a hypocritical christian, we get it. Now what?
It's a good show, a lot better than Happy Endings but not a good as Arrested development.
I think I like the concept of it and the actors involved more than the actual show.
I agree they could do more with Shirley. Maybe make her more sassy.
I love Shirley. She's my favorite, followed by Jeff, then Annie.
The audience can't seem to connect or relate to any of the characters..Modern Family,The Middle and malcolm in the middle are the only successful single cam sitcoms and they are all geared towards family.
I love this show,...lots of references to popular culture might make it hard for some people.
But Even if you don't get the pop culture ...it is very funny.
It's become too Reddit-y.
r28, that is the perfect description of what's wrong with it. But I feel like I should defend it by mentioning that it somehow became my 57-year-old father's favorite sitcom and he thinks it's the only time Chevy Chase has ever been funny. I'll be sorry to see it go just because I think Danny Pudi is really funny and talented and after it's over he'll probably be relegated to main-character's-tertiary-friend parts in Judd Apatow movies.
I think Joel McHale is the problem - he's not strong or likable enough to centre the show. Put Jason Bateman in there and the rest of the actors would have a strong axis around which to rotate.
I'm 56 and I love it...
I would watch Shirley read the phonebook. The actress who plays her has a funny twitter feed. She calls people out who confuse her with black actresses that look nothing like her (it seems to happen often) and sweetly informs the occasional idiot who asks her if she was on Good Times that she was 7 at the time of its airing.
Community won't be premiering on Friday, Oct. 19th as originally announced. Rather, it might take the place of one of the other struggling NBC shows that get pulled from the schedule.
According to the attached, both Guys With Kids and Animal Practice may be short-lived. But the article gives the impression that NBC might think about shelving or moving 30 Rock and Up All Night depending on how the next week of ratings look for those shows.
[quote]There are some astonishingly stupid people on DL.
Not stupid, as much as afflicted with awful, elderly taste. This thread is full of them, starting with R1.
Perhaps if we all banded together and organized a campaign to get more people to join the millions and millions of Americans that aren't watching 'Guys With Kids,' we could get the rating so low that NBC would officially pull the plug.
That's how we will get Community back on the schedule.
Random trivia: the guy who plays Magnitude was also one of the kids in the Harry Potter movies.
The will end up being appreciated when its over like AD and MITM
I'll keep watching as long as there's a chance of Joel McHale taking his shirt off.
Looking forward to this season.
Hate that Joel McHale endlessly plugs it on The Soup. Yeah, we get it, you scored a network sitcom because of your Soup gig. As a result, The Soup has reeeeally gone down the shitter.
And Community just isn't that good.
NBC finally announced season premiere date.
New episodes start February 7th.
I thought for sure it would get an earlier start because NBC would replace some other lame show on their schedule (Hello, Guys With Kids) with it, but they really take every opportunity show how little faith they have in Community.
Chevy Chase is finally done with the show. It probably won't have much impact though. He's already filmed most of the upcoming shortened season, and the show will be lucky to be renewed again.
I like his crusty Pierce character, but she show will not feel all that different without him there.
Chevy Chase was always the weakest link. You can always tell when CC sabatoges a scene with his shameless (and very unfunny) mugging. Community would have been perfection without him.
I have a friend who is familiar with the set, so I've heard plenty of stories.
Dan Harmon is like a lot of other aging comic writers/actors/standups. He's a mean, bitter asshole, but there is still some good in there.
Chevy Chase is just an asshole.
It's back on next week!
Another fan here. Happy to have it back!
I used to really like Community, but to be honest, its obnoxious fanbase has really alienated me to the show. It didn't help that the back half of the third season really went downhill while everyone on the internet gave each of its episodes an A+++
I liked the ingenuity at first, but not every episode has to be a concept episode.
Is the Dean guy actually gay?
Joel was funny on Letterman last night. Apparently he was on the View this morning too, but I didn't record it.
One thing he mentioned that I'd forgotten about. Since the new season of Community was supposed to start last October, they have a Halloween and Christmas episode in the can. We'll see both of them some time this winter/spring. That will be fun because I don't like that we only ever see the Christmas episodes of shows during December.
I think the show is worse than ever. I was hoping that Dan Harmon splitting wouldn't have had such a noticeable affect on the output. It seems like they are only pushing the wild and bizarre aspects of the program, and not at all focused on keeping the dialog clever or funny.
And I think the ratings are reflecting that I'm not the only long time fan that is losing faith in the program.
Agreed. HUGE fan of the show show here, but it's not the same show now. I can't put my finger on it. But something is either missing or something unnecessary has been added? It's just not as funny or weird. It feels like an imitation of COMMUNITY.
Joel McHale gives me a huge boner, that's enough to keep me watching!
And Donald Glover's naked bubble butt on the bloopers is wank worthy!
Really, people think Joel McHale is hot? He makes Gale Harold look sexy. Some of you queens here just love vanilla, don't you?
Joel McHale has trollface.
Joel McHale is SUPER hot. So is Donald Glover, damn! But the show is genius pure and simple. It will go down as a comedy on the level of AD.
This show is the comedic equivalent of "Lost" - there's nothing there. It's masturbation for the geeky 'meta' crowd.
I want Troy and Abed to fuck. There, I said it.
The problem with the show now is that Abed has become a gimmick, much like Sheldon on "Big Bang Theory" is. They were funny in the first season and their geekiness was endearing and amusing but it wears thin when the writers latch onto it and rely on that weirdness to drive the shows' respective storylines.
What's wrong with masturbation for the geeky meta crowd?
Just saw the Thanksgiving episode and it had the best elements of the show -- absurdity mixed with heart.
NBC’s Community (1.0/3) found itself down 23% from last week to tie a series low.
I stopped reading this thread when a poster upstream referred to Chevy Chase's "talent."
Community is a great show, loved the animated Xmas ep.
Chevy Chase is still a no-talent hack. Him being on TV IS the joke.
I had hoped that it would still be OK after they fired Dan Harmon but the last 5 or 6 eps were essentially unwatchable, imo. I don't mind the animated gimmicks or the puppetry but I do not understand why they keep trying musical sequences because only two of the actors have half-decent singing voices.
Will there be a paint ball episode this year?
I actually just started watching the show about 2 months ago. Amazon had the first three seasons on sale for like $12/each. I was home with a nasty case of the flu and had a marathon of Community. I was instantly addicted and loved it. Trying to watch the new season on NBC is torture. Hardly the same show at all. What happened?
Best episode = The group plays Dungeons & Dragons with that fat guy.
The D&D episode is my favorite too, r70. The reason it sucks now is because the producers fired the shows creator/writer/director Dan Harmon.
It's like when Aaron Sorkin was fired as head writer of West Wing. After he left the whole tone of the show changed for the worse: got so boring and serious, lost all levity.
But there are only 8 total episodes of season 4, I believe, before Community ends for good - at this point that's a blessing. We'll always have seasons 1-3.
This show went downhill after Harmon got the boot. So sad. It's like a pale imitation of what it was. And yet I'd be hard pressed to say exactly what's off about it.
That said, the actors playing Abed and Troy were amazing last night. Really good, subtle work.
Donald Glover was incredible playing Abed last night. I don't think Danny Pudi did as well playing Troy, but it was still a great character switch.
And Jim Rash was amazing imitating Joel McHale's Jeff. And a surprisingly hot body under that shirt. I'm still enjoying the show a lot even though you can tell it's a runaway train.
Oh and I was surprised at how nice Joel's singing voice was in that puppet episode.
I got the joke....it just wasn't funny enough to continue on and on and on...
This was my favorite show for three seasons. I've given up now. I hope it gets canceled.
[quote]And Jim Rash was amazing imitating Joel McHale's Jeff.
Remember the one where they are trying to film a new infomercial for Greendale.
McHale played the Dean and it was spot-on!
Is Chevy Chase even on this anymore?
The origins episode was brillaint.
I still like it just fine.
It's dead in the water now. Next week will be the last ep of the series.
It's still enjoyable although it's not a must see anymore. And I really loathe the little pep talk Jeff has to give the study group each and every episode, usually about togetherness or friendship or helping one another. Ugh. Barf.
Will it be renewed?
It seems so contrived. Trying too hard to be cultishly great like Arrested Development.
Me too r62, me too!
Renewed for Season 5 bitches!!! Yay!!
5 years at community college?
Wonder how many episodes for season 5?
[quote]It might just be the best show on network television.
Or it might not.
In a repeat from last year, NBC‘s perennial bubble comedy Community just snagged a 13-episode renewal.
There have been some significant changes on the show over the past 12 months though. When NBC renewed the show last May, it still had creator Dan Harmon as showrunner and Chevy Chase as co-star. Immediately after the upfronts, Harmon was replaced with David Guarascio and Moses Port. Then in November, Chase too departed.
The bitter feud between Chase and Harmon was a major factor in destabilizating of the show for a couple of seasons, leading to public outbursts and profane voice messages.
Now that Chase is gone, emotions have cooled down and all sides involved have had time to reflect, there is speculation that Harmon may come back, especially if this turns out to be Community‘s final chapter. (I’d heard that, with the show’s future at NBC in limbo, there were a number of suitors clamoring to pick up Community for a final installment.) There are no deals in place but I hear there certainly is interest in bringing Harmon back in some capacity.
Clearly they recognized that replacing Harmon neither improved the show, nor made it more accessible to a bigger audience, so why not bring him back and at least have it be done properly.
Harmon is definitely coming back, per his twittering.
Good news, I hope!
After several weeks of negotiations, Community producer Sony Pictures TV just confirmed that there are deals in place for series creator/former showrunner Dan Harmon and former co-exec producer Chris McKenna to returning as executive producers for Season 5.
The studio is not saying that the 13-season fifth season will be the cult comedy’s final installment though that’s what I’ve been hearing.
Harmon announced his return to the show via Twitter a week ago.