Who uses an optical drive. The cloud is where it's at.
Are you still longing for your floppy to go with that Commodore on your desk?
Ethenet? Get with the program. Wifi is where it's at.
That is why it's so thin.
This thing blows the competition out of the water. It is great.
Another winner from Apple.
First iPod, then iPhone, then iPad now the MacBook.
No wonder Apple is the best!!!!
Fanboy R1 basically said the same thing about the first iMac.
I thought Steve Jobs (R1) was dead?
That's a lot of money for a paperweight!
They have both firewire 800 and ethernet adaptors to plug into one or both of the thunderbolt ports, but I don't know why anyone would buy a laptop of any kind at this point unless you're constantly traveling. If you need to do just basic web shit, tablets are fine and if you need to do heavy graphics works uh well don't look to the Mac Pro.
The Retina display is a big deal. Pixels simply aren't visible under most any condition. Hyper real.
Simply too expensive for me, however.
[quote]Who uses an optical drive. The cloud is where it's at.
You want all your files exposed to the world so that they can sue you for anything you pirated or that they just don't like?
So display is the big deal but I have to stream to it so video quality will suck anyway.
[quote]That's a lot of money for a paperweight!
But that's just it. It's so light, it wouldn't hold down paper :o)
Seriously check it out, you'll be sold. I wasn't at first but it's awesome.
While the iPad is the king of the tablets, a tablet isn't a laptop. This thing rocks
[quote]a 15.4-inch display at 2880×1800-pixel resolution, an up to 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 processor, 8 gigabytes of 1600 MHz memory and up to 512 gigabytes of solid-state storage — oh, and that slim 0.71-inch profile — THis thing is both a marvel and a powerhouse
I own an iPad and iPhone but Mac's are shit.
Way overpriced, and in typical Apple fashion it only allows you to do things the way Apple want$ you to.
[quote]That is why it's so thin.
Yeah and thus fragile, so when you drop it, you gladly lay out another $2100 to replace it.
You do not have to use The Cloud. Get a NAS and have a completely private cloud. Only a moron would use Google, Apple or Amazon's clouds for anything.
Isn't this just an updated version of a MacBook Air (which I have and really like) ?
I'm a Mac user, but I think it's ridiculous to pretend the Retina laptop is a Pro machine when you can't even update the RAM. Cook is destroying the company. These were the most underwhelming updates in a decade from the company.
R14, no. This was an "update" of their entire laptop line, the line that should be retired. Laptops cannot do the real work desktops are needed for and laptops aren't needed anymore for simple internet fuckery.
actually, steve jobs left detailed instructions for all updates for about the next two years. so, whatever they're doing now is per Steve.
[quote]actually, steve jobs left detailed instructions for all updates for about the next two years. so, whatever they're doing now is per Steve.
I reckon so. Whatever the man's attributes, can you imagine working for such a pompous ass? I have no problem with the self-made or the filthy rich, but micro-managers obsessed with their own legacy are insufferable. If in death you want to leave something behind, endow a museum, a university department, a charitable organization, and be genuinely generous, not intensely restrictive. Don't spend your last days drafting a "four-year plan" for the company you shepherd.
You're naive as fuck if you think a dead man's wishes whom no one could stand in person are being honored.
Hardcore Mac-lover here, too.
I'm also disappointed with the direction they're going with this. You simply can't call a computer a MacBook "Pro" if it doesn't include features that working professionals need.
I do a lot of work as a recording engineer. Yes, I burn a lot of CDs at home, but I also do most of my recording work on-location. If I were to buy this new computer, I'd have to add an external CD burner to my equipment list.
Not being able to upgrade RAM or hard drives is a big drawback for me, too. I've had two Apple computers so far, and as my needs outgrew the computer's capabilities, I've upgraded the RAM and the hard drive in both.
From what it looks like, my 2011 17-inch MachBook Pro might be the last 17-incer they make... and the last "Pro" they make.
Manufactured in China with enormous industrial toxic byproducts and by Apples Chinese slave labor force. But keep telling yourself Apple is a great company right?
r21, the same companies that make Apple parts make the same parts for all computers and mobile devices.
[quote] Major Customers
Foxconn manufactures products for many companies including:
(country of headquarters in parentheses)
Acer Inc. (Taiwan)
Amazon.com (United States)
Apple Inc. (United States)
Cisco (United States)
Dell (United States)
Hewlett-Packard (United States)
Intel (United States)
Microsoft (United States)
Motorola Mobility (United States)
Samsung Electronics (South Korea)
Toshiba (Japan) 
Vizio (United States)
This may seem shocking to some of you but Jobs still controls the company. Ultra secret technology keeps his head alive in a lab under the Apple store in 5th Av.
I want one.
It's the Jaguar of computers.
Looks great, but lacks practicality.
Obscenely overpriced for what you (don't) get. Typical Apple product. But if there is one thing Apple knows how to do, it's whipping its brainwashed status hungry sycophants into a frenzy to buy its latest overpriced toy.
Oh and r22, Apple gets the bad press for Foxconn because Apple is the company with the magic reputation. It's held to higher standard because it cultivates that image. Other hardware/software companies don't.
Love all these haters who obviously know nothing about the product but can't resist bashing anyway. Apple computers are by far the best computers out there. Anyone who uses a PC is a brainwashed idiot. They are the most anti-intuitive, stupidly put together computers in existence.
A tablet is not enough to do real development or scripting. You need a MacBook Air at least to have a complete development environment.
Looking forward to the day that changes...
I like the long-haired Captain Muttonchops in the pink shirt purple tie combo they have as an example user in the last photo on OPs link. Looks like a 70s porn star who let himself go. Is that non-threatening marketing? Buy the computer used by the average guy?
The retina display and the solid state memory make this the Rolls Royce of computers. Not for everyone, but those who need it (people working with graphics) or who want it as a status symbol will pay. Apple will sell a lot of them. And they did not discontinue the current 15" Macbook Pro, so there is an alternative for those who don't want to pay for the cutting edge.
R27? I owned a MP Pro. I also own the rest of the line-up.
If I'm paying that much money for a laptop, shouldn't I be able to pick up wifi in my home even after a year of use? It was a nightmare (relatively-speaking). Out of no where, it just stopped picking up the signal even if I was a foot away from the modem. And the apple store was of no help/
BTW, you're the idiot if you're that obsessed with a product that you seem to think simply owning one is tantamount to splitting the atom.
People are just looking at porn or Facebook/Twitter anyway, so let's not pretend computers in general aren't being used by most to just fuck around.
[quote]Anyone who uses a PC is a brainwashed idiot. They are the most anti-intuitive, stupidly put together computers in existence.
And anyone who makes such a statement has been napping for the past fifteen or so years (or is brainwashed by another brand of Leader.)
Excepting certain specialty applications, there simply isn't that much difference anymore. Apple continues to make fine products; but the once wide and fundamental gap between Apple/PC has narrowed. PCs are now intuitive, trouble-free, and as effortless as a Mac. PCs borrowed from Macs and Macs (to a lesser extent) followed certain directions of PCs. Without the least computer savvy, you could jump back and forth between Mac and PC or PC and Mac with no effort and no problems.
Hard to believe the Apple store was of no help, r31. It sounds as if the computer was still under warranty. And even if it wasn't, they would repair it for a fee.
is the solid state memory that good? I heard it speeds up the laptop or computer like you wouldn't believe
I like to watch dvds on my computer in bed.
Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one. I have had a MacBook Pro for about a year (took many years to get me to switch) and it is by FAR a superior computer in almost every respect. Note, I said ALMOST.
But, then again, its just my opinion.
Threads like this never convince anyone of anything. Just people arguing with themselves.
Forget the MMP, the real news is that the Macbook Airs have gotten both significant upgrades and a price drop. I paid a premium to max out my 11" MBA last summer: i7 processor, 256MB solid state hard drive, 4GB ram. Now I could get all that standard, and more (like USB3 ports) for less money. It's a fantastic machine, and for me, a more versatile and productive alternative to a tablet. See link below for comparison between 2011 and 2012 models.
Of course, about 90 percent of the people who will blow $2,200 (plus tax) on one of these would just as well be served by a $400 PC laptop.
[quote]is the solid state memory that good? I heard it speeds up the laptop or computer like you wouldn't believe
Also increases battery life.
Self admitted Apple Fan boy, but since I started using an iPad, I have no desire to buy another Apple Laptop. These did nothing to sway me back.
Agreed R41. I'm going to replace my current laptop with an iMac when it dies. I was hoping the new iMacs were coming out soon, but now the speculation is next year. I hope my current computer makes it. I'm not sure I'll be able to load Mountain Lion. It was the oldest model that could run Lion.
For the iPad converts: do you type as productively on an iPad as on a keyboard? I work with word documents and spreadsheets a lot, and just don't see how an iPad can manage those effectively. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard or have you adjusted?
You can use a keyboard with an iPad, R43, and run a version of iWorks, but it really isn't designed for people who create or edit a lot of content. It's really for viewing content.
The thing about using the Bluetooth keyboard is that you still to keep reaching out to touch the screen, since there's no other pointing device than your finger. That gets old; you might as well already be touching the screen to use the virtual keyboard.
I agree completely with R44.
Why can't you use a bluetooth mouse or trackpad, R45?
Think of how many more 9 year old factory slaves Apple can requisition, if everyone also buys the keyboard!
For the price of just one MacBook Pro, you can buy three laptops running Windows and use the other two for parts in due time!
How's that for a deal? A-n-d they will come with a super great OS, Windows 7. Plus you will get a certificate to upgrade to Win8 later this year!
What's not to like with this deal?
Forbes magazine named me the Worst CEO of 2011 and my Board of Directors is looking hard at me, so I implore you -- Stop buying Apple shit -- please!
I'm getting an iMac at work - my plan was to get a Macbook Air to complement (out of my own pocket). But now the MacBook Pro is thinner would this be better? I'm not sure what to opt for. It seems remarkably expensive!!
Thanks, R44/R45. I use my 11' Macbook Air for just about everything now. I only use an external monitor when I need to view large spreadsheets side-by-side. Its dimensions aren't that different from an iPad, but the keyboard and greater storage make a real difference with conventional productivity applications. I hear a lot of people say they've replaced their laptops with tablets, but I don't really see how I'd do that. To tie this in with the current thread, I've used 13" Macbook Pros in the past, but the MBP's weight compared to the MBA is ridiculous.
I think posts like R1 are troll posts. He may very well be a Mac enthusiast and really like their products, but clearly he knows how annoyed people get my the pseudo "true believer" posts.
I always laugh at posts like R1.
I have just about every apple product. iMac, Macbook Air, iPad, iPhone, and an iPod. But for all of those things, you pick your favorite that you use most and sort of stick with that. I really use my iMac and iPhone most of the time. I prefer my iMac over all of them. I guess, despite having all these toys, I've found that I am more of a desktop person, so I can't really gush over the latest Macbook Pro.
I think this new Macbook Pro is somewhat pushing it price wise, and I don't really see anything about it that warrants such a huge jump in price.
R43, I don't really see the iPad as completely replacing a laptop or desktop. It's definitely more for internet surfing - and it's great for that, but not much else IMO.
The iPad is fun, but useless for creating text or graphics.
R43 and R44: Microsoft is reportedly coming out with Office for iOS and Android this fall.
r54 nailed it. Thread closed.
Totally over priced. For the person saying the cloud is where it is at is clueless. I would never store presonal information on the cloud. Ethernet is a protocal and can be either wireless or wired, lol.
I like my iPad well enough, especially because it's so portable. Tablets, whether they're Apple products or not, are the best thing to happen to people on airplanes - the time goes by so much faster. Great for traveling and long flights. I prefer my Macbook at home, though, because I watch almost everything online instead of on TV and I like the bigger screen.
"Oh my God. I'm back. I'm home. All the time, it was... We finally really did it ... You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
We are switching to the new platform for The DataLounge this weekend. All of our mobile users have been using it for over a week and all first time users have been using it for about a month - which adds up to well over one million users. So we're ready to end this phase of the testing and move everybody to the new site. (more)
And yes, we've changed the look and some of how it operates.
Yes, we know you just *hate* it in well in advance.
Yes, we know we suck.
Yes, we are the biggest suckers that ever sucked.
But it was time for a change and with the huge shift to mobile it was long overdue. We've taken this opportunity not only to update the look but also make major changes under the hood (or "bonnet" if you're either British or pretentious or both). And we have to prepare for 2016 - a presidential election year where we can normally expect to see a 60% jump in traffic (yes, we've seen 5 presidential elections so far…Christ we're old).
The site has a bunch - nay, plethora - of new features which will make the site more usable: better search, the ability to ignore posters and threads, see link previews, to pick up a thread where you left off, spam and malware filtering and more.
If you want you can go explore and see for yourself, Click here.
And while running the tests we've noticed two interesting reactions to the new system - people are spending more time on the site and more people that come stay around longer and look at more stuff. Both good things. Yay!
Possibly we've not slain all the dragons and there will be issues that come up during the switchover. There's a help button in the lower right hand corner of the page which you can use to send us bug reports.
Please include as much information about the hardware (PC, Mac, Tablet, Phone etc), operating system (Windows, Mac OS, Android, iOS etc) and browser (Chrome, Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer etc) that you are using as possible to help us replicate and fix the problem.
Please note that complaints about colors, fonts, icons and the like are not "bugs" - they are design choices that we've made and we expect one or two cases of world-class bitching. But they won't actually cause headaches, scurvy, heart attacks, Restless Leg Syndrome, Morgellon's Disease or the vapors (but have your smelling salts at hand just in case).
Talking to DataLounge servers. Please wait a moment...