Talk about douchebags. This one show is enough to turn the public off to ballet forever. Especially all the Mormon looking closet cases.
Shit, I forgot to DVR it - is it any good? Even if there *are* douchebags?
Do you think those brothers fuck each other?
OMG, I am enjoying this show. I love the brothers!!! Especially Rex, but I think he's totally an abused bf. His gf or whatever she is is a nasty twat!
I like the daner who isn't a brother. The one who debated about re-signing.
He is hot as hell.
All the men are handsome but the women all need nose jobs.
You mean Ronnie, R4. He's hot, but he's kind of a douche. He's trying too hard to let us know he's straight.
It's not on FIOS "On Demand" :( Why aren't CW shows available on FIOS? Guess I'll have to watch from the CW website.
The guys are hot. I was surprised that some of them have so many tattoos though. I would think that would be frowned upon for ballet. And the women all have big noses, it's odd.
I bet the guys have to use Dermablend when they perform.
I think the brother who puts up with the pseudo-girlfriend is probably a closet case. The other is probably straight. The third brother who is in SF is also hot.
I think the third brother is hot and gay AND probably the most talented of the three.
All these people are ridiculously fake, but bad actors too. Rex the Hamlet of the group, OMG, such bad acting "My head's in about thirty places right now." Any real director would have fired his ass right there. Somebody has scripted these people within an inch of their lives, but the straight story lines are as silly as can be. No chemistry whatsoever.
The artistic directo calls BW one of the premiere companies in the country, but says he wants to get to the very top? Does he imagine he can surpass ABT and NYCB?
Where does BW actually rank?
My friend remembers Adam (the Artistic Director) from when he was with the Joffrey. Says he's a nasty jerk, and forbade me from watching the show.
But ... but ... he was so heartbroken when he had to let the dancer go. His eyes were moist.
This horrible show must be sponsored by Smuckers, a family values company. All the male dancers are hetero studs with not one gay male dancer presented while they rub the hetero love in our faces for the whole show. In fact "men get into ballet for the women"...that's a direct quote. I made it thru 2 incredibly fake and boring episodes but that will be it for me. Not interested in the Smuckers on Ice version of ballet.
Is it all fake?
A preview of the Mormonized American coming after November 2012.
Are they Mormons? I don't think any of the dancers is actually from Salt Lake City.
The quote was that a lot of male dancers get into it for the girls, and that's true. They pretty much have a continuous and convenient supply of pussy without any real effort. It's not a bad strategy.
It does trouble me that all the male dancers are straight. That's a distortion.
I don't doubt that some men "say" they got into ballet for the women. I doubt that that is the real reason however. It is as fake as this show is IMO.
It has never happened in the history of ballet R18. You know why? Ballerinas are disordered and very strong and have small boobs. No man wants that.
They may not be from Salt Lake City, but nobody who is not a Mormon would ever join Ballet West.
Ballet West? Bitches, please. Part of the ballet scene? Hahaha, um... No.
I have a memory of a pretty large survey of US professional dancers (ballet, modern dance and theater) back in the late 90s (hundreds of people, i.e. a good percentage of the actual total), which showed a very large proportion of the male ones were gay or bi (gosh, amazing) - not a majority, but getting on for 40%. Female dancers, however, showed no such bias.
Yet interviews I have read with dancers in the drag Ballet Trocaderos troupe suggested that mainstream American ballet companies were not as tolerant and welcoming as might be expected. Maybe Ballet West is a case here.
But the artistic director is surely a homo.
But not so gay as to offend the Mormon donors.
Think of their market.
It started like as the "Utah Civic Ballet" and got a promotion to "Ballet West" after the "Federation of Rocky Mountain States" said it was their official representative (probably because there were no other ballet companies in the Rocky Mountain States in 1968).
I notice from the list of personnel that they aren't showing the principals for the most part.
You just know their primary revenue source is not performances but their school.
Tonight they added a token gay.
I loathe Mor(m)ons. They are lowbrow, insular, conniving cultists who can't dance worth a shit.
But when they added the token gay they made a point of saying "Everyone else at Ballet West is straight."
do they expect us to believe the director is a straight man?
Those dancers have the ugliest feet I have ever seen!
Its good to see that the dancers do eat regular food.
[quote]Those dancers have the ugliest feet I have ever seen!
Explain please. Are they deformed due to dancing or what? Males or females, both?
They have blisters and calluses and they look really dry.
They showed 2 dancers getting mani-pedis.
I don't know why they bother R36. Nothings going to make those feet look pretty.
I've always wondered about what their feet look like and I figured it had to be pretty bad. Supermodels have really ugly feet too.
I lived with dancers. Female dancers ALL have those feet if they do pointe work. Those shoes are basically putting you on your tip toes for 8 hours a day with little padding. It's torture. And I also call bullshit on FEMALE dancers eating. They generally eat cigarettes and diet coke.
I also think that this must be some sort of miracle company if only one male dancer there is straight. That is completely unheard of in every company. Fucking mormon morons.
Not everyone knows about this show. The show is called Breaking Pointe and it's on The CW.
Well I can believe he's the only gay who's out.
They said, and this is a direct quote, "You will never find a ballerina with anorexia." I happened to know just such a person personally.
Of course, she was at a higher level than Ballet West.
The principal dancer said she eats potato chips before every performance.
Ronnie, Rex and Ronald don't ping for me.
I'm sure several of the dancers not profiled are gay. Too bad more of them weren't profiled too.
Is incest rife? There's been so many posts about these people being brothers.
"You will never find a ballerina without anorexia."
There, fixed that for you.
That is not what they said R45. They said "with."
The principal who claims not to know more than the first name of the girls in the chorus....oh, please!
Here are some jacked up feet from wearing high heels.
So Ronald Tilton - I wondered why we never see him practicing with the others and then i see on their page that he is in Ballet West II - and oddly enough, is in some category by himself, although it doesn't say what category - just "Ballet West II".
Is he still with them simply because of the show? Or is it just some glitch on their site where he should be on the first page after Ian Tanzer, but somehow has gotten shunted off to the back page by himself (and please, can we see more of Ian and Ryan Sargent?)
There was only one straight guy in my ballet company, one in a larger city, but not NY. Yes, he got all the bun-head twat, and all those anorexic doe eyes in the corps got a nasty case of herpes. The rest of the men were twinks, and I have a lovely store of memories in time for my eldergay years.
Every single woman in the ballet has some form of an eating disorder. One cannot dance 6-10 hours a day on 800-1000 calories and be "normal".
The prima may eat potato chips (2) before a performance, but that is all she eats all day.
"Eat nothing. Have a little red wine." --Balanchine to Gelsey Kirkland
He was the arbiter of the lollipop look for dancers. Before he took over ABT, the female dancer was much stronger.
Balanchine never ran ABT. He ran NYCB.
Another one claimed she ate lemon chicken, rice, and a salad before her last performance.
Yes, before her last performance - probably a day before.
I've spent a lot of time around ballet and the dancers, living in shared housing with SAB, and then sharing a theater with both NYCB and SAB.
First, the proportion of gay to straight is about 60/40, the majority being gay. It might be more along the lines of 40/60 in such a small regional company, and based on the boys in this show most of them are closeted. Adam is gay, I know people that have worked with him.
Second, female dancers in real, major companies eat nothing. And I mean it. Anorexia is everywhere. I've seen girls that are walking skeletons that dance beautifully. These girls on this show are whales that a boy would refuse to pick up for fear of injury. They are also graceless. I haven't seen one girl (the nineteen year old being the closest) who has a ballerina body or the ability to potentially dance at a national company. There is no one there that would ever be international level.
Third, this is a small, unimportant company that is not on the radar. It's a regional company that gets by on a barebones season. A lot of their dancers look like they should be unemployed. The boys are overbuilt and too athletic in the wrong way, and the girls are huge and talent free. The level of delusion spouting from their mouths is breathtaking, especially the "prima" (who wouldn't merit corps at any real company) who thinks she's still going to do something at 32. Anyone who is good is dancing with a company or at the major company's school in their early teens, and is already being promoted by late teens, very early twenties.
Well you make the top companies seem even worse r56.
Should have been a two-hour documentary, not a 6-hour series. SAme shit over and over and over again. Rex put up with Alison for 3 years? He must be gay.
Does anyone know if the show is coming back at some point? This last episode was called the "season finale".
[guote]Ronnie, Rex and Ronald don't ping for me.
Because your gaydar, she broke.
Those girls might turn faster if their huge rhino noses didn't cause so much wind resistance.
You people are truly drowning in your ignorance. Ballet West is a highly respected company in the US whose dancers are well paid AGMA members. Salaries and benefits at this company rival those at companies in much larger and more expensive cities. Also, although there may indeed be people with eating disorders in the ballet world, by and large these people are very healthy eaters. They are elite athletes and burn a great number of calories each day. They need to eat MORE than most people in order to maintain their body weight and muscle tone.
Good post, r62.
R62 is completely incorrect. Their base pay is around 28-30,000 a year. Not anywhere near a reputable house level. Being part of AGMA means nothing.
Not going to even bother with the major misconceptions about dancer nutrition.
They may be healthy eaters but they smoke like fiends. I used to work at the NYC Ballet and you would always find them smoking on the outside balcony of the NYS Theater when taking a break from practicing.
This show starts its second season tonight!!!!! I can't wait to see Rex again!!!! I loved him, but hated his hag girlfriend.
Ronnie has apparently been seriously injured, at least the previews give that impression.
Ronnie to lose foot? Well, they were being a bit melodramatic at the clinic.
Rex has no personality, and Chase is just a dizzy queen, but not a dizzy as Zach. They implied Chris and the hot guy from BWII are doing the nasty behind Christiane's back.
I just discovered this show and just finished watching the whole first season on the CW App. I'm hooked!
Ballet West is very homophobic and does NOT allow openly gay dancers so those queeny guys will not be around long.
I hope Zach doesn't swallow the whole show. Annoying. I enjoyed last season.
No thoughts on the last two episodes? This season is much better than the first season.