- CNN, like defunct AirAmerica Radio, preaches to the choir.
- On the contrary R1, they preach right wing southern republican bigot, just like their news directors have been the last twenty years.
- They should stop hiring assholes from Fox and assholes like Ari Fleischer. Who wants to look at his fugly mug lying every night. CNN is too right wing now so they deserve their horrible fate.
R1, are you a moron?
No, they do not preach to the (liberal) choir because the truth tends to have a liberal bias and they choose to give voice to rightwing buffoons like Trump. I don't want to hear from clowns, including Blizer.
That's why I stopped watching a coupe of years ago.
- That Faux News number is depressing.
- David Letterman suggested that Regis replace Piers. Not a bad idea.
- r2, AirAmerica's audience were Liberals on the east and west coasts who agreed with each other. A formula for boring radio.
- Not really, R5. It's expected.
Liberals are more likely to look to new media for their info because we don't believe the bullshit coming from antiquated media.
We embrace technology and the truth. We are also pretty sick of the same old, DC talking heads in their little circle jerks.
Old fucks are angry idiots who like to look at the pretty dames in the short skirts with their potty mouths going off about minorities and gays destroying 'merkuh.
- Good News. CNN is becoming like Fox.
- Piers Morgan IS part of the problem.
refuse to watch him (no, I'm not Madonna)
- R8 is correct. Fox's ratings are so high because it's mostly old fucks who are home all day watching. The number of younger viewers is significantly lower for Fox News than it is for other networks, and Fox's website has the lowest traffic of any of the major network news websites. As the nasty, hate-filled, bigoted old fucks in this country continue to croak, the ratings for Fox will go down.
I am in my 30s and I don't know anyone in my age group or younger who gets the majority of our news from TV. We are all online.
- CNN has hired the producer who created that anti-Obama ad on Fox that caused so much controversy the other day. The higher ups at CNN are complete FOOLS. I hope their ratings get even worse.
- [quote]That Faux News number is depressing.
Fox News is like crack for mindless right wingers. it manipulates their emotions (i.e. fear, hate and resentment). It works like entertainment.
- Are you serious, r12?
- All of the medical offices I've ever been to have it tuned to FOX.
- CNN International is really good, it's the domestic CNN that totally sucks.
- As I mentioned in another CNN ratings thread, they need to wipe the slate clean, and start over.
Find new people. Quit bringing back the same ones, or just adding more fish to the pond.
Start fresh, fools!
- It's true R14, they've actually brought over a lot of people from Fox. Ken Jauch who runs CNN now was the person who brought Glenn Beck to the network. What CNN wants to be now is anti-liberal, anti-Obama 24/7.
- [quote]Erin Burnett received just 89,000 viewers in the key demo at 7 p.m.
Could they get higher numbers if they just ran a few old "Heckle and Jeckle" cartoons in that slot?
- CNN doesn't have enough black talking heads. One good thing from Obama's reign, a lot of blacks got hired for TV work.
- I used to love Heckle and Jeckle. I would watch their cartoons in a heart beat. I think they've been banned as racist.
- Give Carol Costello a damn primetime show of her own! She's been the best at CNN for years now.
- No one is watching "news" after 7 except old farts. Old farts tune to FOX for their nightly bashing of... you name it.
The 24 hour News Networks have lost their usefulness unless there's breaking news. They choose to cover fluff rather than important news stories. The bring on the same, tiresome pundits whose position is know before they even come on, so we're not l;earning anything from them.
How these fools make money, I don't understand. Who in the hell is looking for their advice?
- [quote] Find new people.
Where are they supposed to find these new people? I agree that Anderson Cooper, Piers Morgan, and Erin Burnett aren't working, but I'm not sure there are any big news personalities anymore who would attract a big audience.
- [quote]I think they've been banned as racist.
How could Heckle and Jeckle be construed as racist? One had a Bronx accent and the other a veddy proper British accent. They were magpies not crows. Where's the racism?
- The only thing that matters about CNN is that Anderson and Ben are madly in love and will be happy together for an eternity.
Deranged Benderson fanboi
- I watch CNN and love there programs. If Anderson looses his job, will he and Benjamin have to move out of the firehose?
- Ashleigh Banfield, Campbell Brown, Erin Burnett...sheesh!
- AC at 8PM: 388,000 viewers – down 38%; 116,000 in A25-54 – down 41%
He is part of it too.
- "CNN is to bias"
- Anderson Cooper 360 at 10PM: 420,000 – down 59%; 147,000 in 25-54 – down 62%
Even worse at Ten.
- I'm an MSNBC addict. I wake up to 'Morning Joe' and go to bed to 'The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell.'
If CNN/HLN would give Joy Behar a show again, I'd tune in. Joy's previous show was terrific.
- I think CNN spent too much time on promotiong Anderson Cooper and wants he failed they haven't been able to draw more viewers. CNN tries to make it too much about AC covering the story and it should be about what the story is about. I never understood, the pictures of him in the jungle posing. Or squinting in a camera while standing in wreckage. That's not jourmalism. So AC looks good wearing a tight black tee in a forest. And? This whole act just isn't working anymore.
- [quote]wants he failed
- I'm keepin' it honest!
- 8PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR 2,849 446 1,015
CNN Anderson Cooper 360 427 132 169
MSNBC Ed Show 962 244 409
CNBC CRIME INC: ILLEGAL GAMBLE 101 48 60
HLN Nancy Grace 534 163 275
4th place AC Tuesday night. Epic failure.
ON THE RECORD W/GRETA 1,578 298 612
CNN Anderson Cooper 360 333 115 170
MSNBC Last Word W/ L. ODONNELL 789 261 383
CNBC 60 Minutes ON CNBC 298 136 147
HLN Nancy Grace 288 104 134
- ANDERSON ALMOST KILLED BY RUNAWAY COMFORT INN SIGN!!!!
"Now THAT makes for BOFFO ratings! Put that boy on the network three times a day.. give him three.. no.... FOUR hours!!"
CNN Talkin Head in 2008
- Friday night Ratings. Pitiful, 273,000. Epic Failure is CNN and their golden boy.
THE OREILLY FACTOR SPCL 1,552 338 639
CNN ANDERSON COOPER SPCL RPT 273 90 122
MSNBC Ed Show 781 155 305
CNBC THE APPRENTICE 105 33 55
HLN Nancy Grace 334 103 146
- From AC, Piers Morgan, Roland Martin & Soledad O'Brien, CNN has a staff of unappealing, self righteous bores. I don't like Fox, but I like Shepherd Smith & Chris Wallace. MSNBC has a wide variety of personalities. I can't think of one person on CNN that I could stand to watch for more than 5 minutes. Plus, they never seem to think of any new ideas. They keep recycling the same basic shows with (more or less) the same people over and over again, strangely expecting different results.
- I believe it was a Ramada Inn sign.
- I'm thinking that Don Lemon will be jumping ship later this year, too.
- R42 I don't understand why they won't give Don a weekenight show. I think CNN is holding him back. From Blitzer, Erin, Kind, AC and Piers their numbers are horrible why not Give Lemon a chance?
- Instead of dumping overpaid ratings losers like Morgan and Blitzer, NewsBlues reports that CNN reduced its staff of on-air meteorologists by two this week.
Reynolds Wolf, a "big event" Atlanta-based correspondent since 2006 and Jacqui Jeras, with the network since 1999, were both shown the door recently.
Jeras was front and center during CNN's coverage of Hurricane Katrina, putting in 84 hours on the air.
- r28, an unamed CBS exec said if Cooper leaves CNN he has a job at "60 Minutes" waiting for him.
- "CNN is to bias" as what is to what?
- It's easy to say CNN should hire new people, but who are these magical people that CNN should hire to replace Anderson and Piers and make everything better? Let's be realistic: moving Don Lemon or Carol Costello into prime time wouldn't do a damn thing to improve ratings. TV news is dying. There are no news "stars" anymore who can come in and guarantee an audience.
- If TV news is dying than why is FNC and msnbc have alot more Viewers than CNN? All news should be dying it's not, its CNN more impotantly the guy the promote like hell Anderson Cooper who's ratings are horrible at 8 p.m. and 10 p.m.
- As expected, CNN keeps that fugly douche Rob Marciano, and fires the other weather people.
- R30/R32/R34/R37/R39 is just thrilled it found a thread to go on its AC hating rants since it's being totally ignored in the other thread it tried to invade.
- CNN has apparently decided to NOT hire that Fox producer who did the anti-Obama ad. Hard to believe CNN would do the right thing there since they despise Obama and are so desperate to be Fox News now.
- I hope Don leaves soon if they dont offer him something. He is totally wasted on CNN.
- [quote]Don Lemon or Carol Costello into prime time wouldn't do a damn thing to improve ratings.
R47. That's not true. Yes, unfortunately Fox dominates at night, but MSNBC does respectably well with Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Matthews, etc. People do tune in to watch specific anchor/hosts.
Okay fine, I happen to like Carol Costello, but it doesn't have to be Carol or Don Lemon. But it has to be someone--real live human beings with worthwhile news content to interest and persuade people to watch.
Unless we're going to have the cable airwaves dominated by tabloid shows (HLN) or right-wing whackos (Fox), CNN has to come up with a formula where they get respectable nighttime ratings such as MSNBC. I cetainly wouldn't want CNN to become tabloid or another newsmagazine network where we see '48 Hours' and 'To Catch a Predator' type shows instead of news and analysis.
- Why would Anthony Bourdain want to work at CNN? They're going down in flames.
- CNN needs the hot-as-hell Rob Marciano to model red rain slickers this coming hurricane season.
- Ratings for cable news are down. I suspect it's the economy that is keeping people away from news. I think people see it as gloomy and likely to stay gloomy so they are looking for things that are more uplifting.
- [quote] MSNBC does respectably well with Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Matthews, etc. People do tune in to watch specific anchor/hosts.
Yes, but the prime-time shows that do well on MSNBC and Fox are those that are hosted by people who aren't really journalists and who have a political point of view. They're not really news shows per se. Straight news no longer attracts viewers, unless it's big, breaking news. So where does that leave CNN? Fox already has captured the conservative audience and MSNBC has captured the liberal audience, so CNN is out of luck. If you can think of any great anchors/hosts who would cause people to turn off Fox or MSNBC and turn on CNN instead, I'd love to hear their names.
- I think we are all in agreement that Piers Morgan needs to GO!
God knows who they would replace him with.
- Get rid of Sanjay. Cannot stand him.
- I can't bear Don Lemon. Maybe CNN could trade him to BET & get TJ Holmes back? Lemon is really only suited for E! or some such place where he could flutter his false eyelashes & gush over celebrities to his heart's content.
- R57. We're very much in agreement. CNN needs to have political analysts as anchors/hosts for its nighttime programs--not just news anchors delivering the news.
The reason Fox and MSNBC have done well is because they have hosts who have a point of view and thus can engage their guests in lively, insightly and sometimes provocative discussion. The host also needs to be politically savvy. CNN had a star for a while in Anderson Cooper, but maybe people are just tired of him.
I don't know who to recommend, but CNN needs to find its own version of Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc.
- They can keep the anchors, just lose the pundits and right wing slant. THAT'S the problem with CNN. They carry water for the GOP and don't report honestly, they just pay lip service to honest reporting, they have an agenda and its to serve their right wing corporate masters.
- [quote] CNN needs to find its own version of Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc.
But that's the problem. MSNBC is already known as the "liberal network," and Fox is already known as the "conservative network," so CNN isn't going to make any inroads by trying to be a copycat version of either network in prime time. And if CNN tries to play it down the middle by having a conservative host one hour and a liberal host the next, the network will lack a clear identity and won't find a loyal audience (MSNBC tried this strategy years ago and it didn't work).
CNN is now like the independent candidate fighting for attention in a two-party race. Basically, CNN is fucked. Shifting hosts and anchors around won't address the larger problem.
- CNN should be like the BBC. Non-biased except when it comes to Palestine.
- CNN should move to the left.
- Fortunately for Anderson, dating a barmaid has given him an appreciation of slumming it. He'd probably spit in the face of success at this point.
- The issue for CNN is how long people watch, not how many.
*More* Americans tune into CNN over the course of the day.
99 million different Americans watched CNN at some point in 2011. 82 million tuned into FOX at some point.
Where FOX eats CNN alive is viewtime. FOX viewers log unbelievable amounts of time watching. CNN gets about 6 minutes per view. Hence the constant newsbreaks. They know what their viewership wants in broad terms, gives it to them, and it's *killing* them in PR terms.
They don't need Rachel Maddow or Lawrence O'Donnell or any more AndersonfuckingCoopers. The format is dead, they survive by being the only shop offering news that college-educated people will borderline trust. More opinion/stunt driven coverage is not the answer.
Conservatives invade and take over yesterdays broad communication mediums. Radio got killed by TV, they took it over. Cable news died in 98-02 when America signed up for the internet enmasse. That's when conservative took the whole format over. CNN plays by FOX's rules now.
CNN viewers hang on for THE NEWS. So ditch the already dead format, retain THE NEWS, and maybe ... they'll watch longer.
- If they'd stop SUCKING so much it'd help.
I can't understand how they cannot see how much they suck, and how they cannot perceive precisely what is wrong.
- They've lost too many people in recent years - many of their big names went to FOX (eg. Lou Dobbs, Ed Henry, Bill Hemmer etc.) or to ABC (Jeff Greenfield), or have retired (eg. Larry King).
- CNN is the disaster/election network. Without them, the ratings tank.
- CNN was good in the 90's with Bobby Bautista and those other anchors back then. I don't have a problem with Anderson Cooper, but I do wish they'd go back to their old format in the 90's, they were good then.
- They don't NEED "big names". They need journalistic integrity, and good solid news reporting.
They cannot fire Wolf Blitzer fast enough for my taste.
- I'm watching Erin's show.
Of course, it's always sucked.
Will they start to re-do the shows after the Presidential election?
Wonder what kind of ratings the Queen's Jubilee will bring?
- [quote] or have retired (eg. Larry King)
Actually Larry was fired.
CNN put all there eggs in one basket, Anderson Cooper.
The amount of PR they poured into him has not paid off.
- Hundreds will be watching the Piers Morgan special for the Queen
- R72, it's spelled 'Bobbie Battista'.
And I don't think she was taken that seriously as an anchor. She was mainly known for doing the nightly summaries in the O.J. Simpson trial.
And the fact that she was cross-eyed didn't help either.
- Piers was supposed to have brung in big ratings too, but that hasn't paid off either.
- Larry King was not fired.
And anyway, the point is that Piers Morgan, while improving in recent months, has not turned out to be giant that Larry was.
- R74, is it true that Burnett's husband/fiancee is a Wall Street trader?
And last night she had the gall to say that SuperPAC's make the elections process more transparent!
- Piers Morgan has been an utter flop for the network. Major mistake.
- [quote] They need journalistic integrity, and good solid news reporting.
You and I may agree on that, but "journalistic integrity" and "solid news reporting" don't attract viewers in prime time anymore. If they did, Fox News wouldn't be the cable news ratings leader.
[quote] I do wish they'd go back to their old format in the 90's, they were good then.
But the 90s are over. Back then, people still got a lot of their news from TV. Now, people get all the headlines on the Internet and their smartphones.
- Larry was fired.
He is starting up a new show on digital network ora.tv.
Most of his staff from CNN have followed him to this new venture.
So if he wasn't fired, why is he starting up a new NIGHTLY show on another network?
- Hiring Carol Burnett's daughter Erin, hasn't brought in the ratings either.
- I like CNN International because they tend to just report the facts (about what's happening all over the world, not just in the USA). Some shows do specialize in analysis, but the ones I make it a point to watch just tell me what's happened overnight or during the day. That can done with a middle of the road approach, which is what CNN USA says it wants be known for.
Maybe CNN USA should alternate between "just the facts" one hour & some point of view the next hour -- women, gays, education, health, sports, etc. I might tune in to see an hour of straight news (without pundits) & stick around for an hour of POV, then maybe get sucked into another hour of straight news (not a repeat, at least a new anchor), then stick around for another hour of some other POV, etc.
I don't care who CNN USA's "personalities" are, I think the network should focus on content. Why not hire Ted Turner as a consultant & listen to what he says? He did a pretty good job his first time around.
- His CNN specials were not doing as well as CNN hoped and so yes, his contract for those has not been renewed, but he was not fired from his regular former job.
- [quote] but he was not fired from his regular former job.
So why is he starting up a new NIGHTLY show on another network?
- Larry King retired from full-time duties on CNN because he was 75 years old and his latest wife (whom he almost divorced) told him she wanted him at home .
- R88 don't read from a press release.
CNN put Larry out to pasture, and he wasn't happy about it at all.
If his wife wanted him home, why start up a new nightly show that will keep him even more away from home?
- [quote]his latest wife (whom he almost divorced) told him she wanted him at home .
If I were Larry King's wife, I'd want him anywhere but at home -- preferably off somewhere making money, but certainly not at home with me!
- CNN CEO Phil Kent says some shows may be replaced.
- Exactly R90
CNN put Larry out to pasture, and thought Piers ability to create 'controversy' with his shows would boost ratings.
- I can't believe ABC John Berman quit that network to go to CNN
Doesn't her know CNN is now the Titanic?
- Whose stupid idea was it to bring back Soledad O'Brien in the mornnig? She's as dull as dishwater.
- I find Soledad O'Brien's voice very annoying.
- R91, that article says that they WON'T replace Erin, Anderson, or Piers.
Part of the fucking problem.
- I used to like Soledad, but she has mannerisms that are so irritating, including her voice, she just bugs me now.
- The article also says that the Pres of CNN says AC is a 'star' and his low ratings are a reflection of a poor lead-in
Is he that delusional?
- [quote]THE OREILLY FACTOR SPCL 1,552 338 639
On a Friday night? Quelle surprise!
- If America is "destroyed" it's because people are retarded enough to watch Bill O'Reilly and other Blame Everyone But Yourself programming.
Edward Murrow and Walter Cronkite would spin in their graves if anyone dared call that horseshit "news".
- Soledad O'Brien is one of the only Democrats left at CNN, so I'd keep that in mind when you criticize her.
- CNN will never be able to compete with FOX by trying to attract a more conservative viewer. FOX has that market cornered and they do it better than anyone.
The look of CNN's sets and their somber lighting is depressing. MSNBC and FOX both have eye-catching sets and bright lighting. Viewers want to see cheery sets when they watch the news.
- They need to fire Piers & AC and get back to their old format if they want to survive.
I can't stand Ryan Seacrest but he would be better suited to interviewing celebrities vs Piers.
- So the head of CNN says Anderson needs a better lead in. Then I read that Erin Anderson is safe?
So maybe they are going to move her? They should try her in the afternoon and make it all about Wall Street and her interviewing her pals from there. She doesn't belong in main stream news.
- Replace Piers with Phil Donahue. He'd be terrific in that one-on-one medium.
- Soledad O'Brien has an obnoxious voice and facial expressions. I think she's someone who realizes she is crap, but because she apparently is regarded well at CNN, she feels like she has to try extra hard to fake some on-air skills, which makes her delivery even more unwatchable. Also, she's a cutch.
- Not a fan of the CNBC stars trying to make it in mainstream news. Erin Burnett and Dylan Ratigan being the two examples here. I liked both of them on CNBC, but their new shows are unwatchable.
- R106, what does "cutch" mean?
- BRING. BACK. TED. TURNER.
- I know she's damaged goods now, but Rosie's one-on-one interviews in the latter days of her OWN talk show were riveting--even better than Charlie Rose.
- The president of CNN can praise Piers Morgan and Erin Burnett all he wants. They're not working. Piers just turned out to be a big disappointment. I don't know why Larry King lasted so long--and I didn't even like Larry all that much, but Piers is not Larry. Piers is just such a chore to watch even when it's a good guest. And he needs to stop asking his guests, "How many times have you been properly in love?" It's stupid. Plus Piers is smack in the middle of the primetime schedule--kind of ruins the whole evening. CNN screwed up hiring him.
I don't dislike Erin Burnett, but she hardly deserved her own show simply because she had some appeal as the stock exchange reporter for a few minutes on MSNBC's Morning Joe.
And Anderson Cooper was the star of CNN for a considerable period of time, but I don't know why he seems not to have that appeal now. Maybe he's overexposed with that dreadful daytime chat show of his. But Anderson Cooper was the "it" guy for a long time. If you recall, Cooper took over from Aaron Brown several years ago.
- R110. Rosie O'Donnell is made for TV. I wish she'd come back. She would have been perfect host instead of Piers Morgan. I hate calling her 'damaged goods' as you did, but I understand what you're saying and perhaps she's worn out her welcome with the public--not with me--but I can see how she's become a target of criticism.
Plus at this point, there would be so much pressure on Rosie to 'save the network' if they were to give her Piers' time slot now.
- r108, urban dictionary has some other definitions, including a period of time that feels like an extended hug, but I only use it as #6 on the list.
- R109 nails it.
THe death of CNN was when Ted Turner sold it.
Strangely, CNN International still rocks.
- "I don't know why Larry King lasted so long"
He lasted a long time because he was a great interviewer who interviewed everyone from Marlon Brando to Margaret Thatcher. He interviewed virtually every President, Prime Minister, movie star, athlete, singer and everyone else under the sun.
And he had connections in show biz going back 50 years. He knew all the celebrities and old-timers from the Golden Days of Hollywood. That's why he used to do a lot of Tribute shows when a movie star died. Piers Morgan sucks at that.
- Rosie will be vying for Piers's job when he's fired, and he will be fired at some point. Rosie did fill in for him once. Of course, if Ryan Seacrest wants the job, it's his.
- [quote] Of course, if Ryan Seacrest wants the job, it's his.
Not anymore. Once he signed with NBC, Universal now has exclusivity on his services.
- R114, I think he was essentially pushed out of power by TW and AOL.
[quote]Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. merged with Time Warner, Inc. on October 10, 1996, with Turner as vice chairman and head of Time Warner and Turner's cable networks division. Turner was dropped as head of cable networks by CEO Gerald Levin but remained as Vice Chairman of Time Warner. He resigned as Time Warner vice chairman in 2003 and then from the board of directors in 2006.
On January 11, 2001, Time Warner was purchased by AOL to become AOL Time Warner, a merger which Turner initially supported. However, the burst of the dotcom bubble hurt the growth and profitability of the AOL division which in turned dragged down the combined company's performance and stock price. At a board meeting in fall 2001, Turner's outburst against AOL Time Warner CEO Gerald Levin eventually led to the latter's announced resignation effective in early 2002, being replaced by Richard Parsons. In contrast to Levin who as CEO isolated Turner from important company matters, Parsons did invite Turner back to provide strategic advice although Turner never received an operational role that he sought. The company dropped "AOL" from its name in 2003. In December 2009, AOL was spun off from the Time Warner conglomerate as a separate company.
Turner was Time Warner's biggest individual shareholder. It is estimated he lost as much as $7 billion when the stock collapsed in the wake of the merger. When asked about buying back his former assets, he replied that he can't afford them now.
I recall the days of Bernard Shaw, Amanpour and Woodruff. Covering the coup in Russia and the Bosnia War.
No "missing blond girls."
No reality crap.
Just amazing International/Domestic coverage.
- Ted Turner was on Piers Morgan the other night and said CNN should be The New York Times on TV.
- Cooper took over from Aaron Brown after Hurricane Katrina.
What made him an instant star (because his 8 p.m. -- or was it 7 p.m.? -- 360 show was lackluster at best), was the night he was in New Orleans interviewing Mary Landrieu and she started thanking and praising President Bush and Congress for all their help.
AC interrupted her and said (paraphrase), "Senator, I saw a woman lying dead on the street today, and I don't want to hear politicians congratulating each other for the great jobs they're doing." And his voice broke and he nailed her to the wall.
It was the Thursday night after Katrina hit on Monday, and up to that point, there had been no negative coverage of the government response to Katrina whatsoever, but within a short time, Dan Rather was giving a more honest assessment on CBS, Shepherd Smith did the same thing on Fox, and by the next morning, virtually all newscasters were castigating Bush and the government for not giving a shit.
Then virtually overnight, AC replaced Aaron Brown and was considered the hottest property in TV news.
But now that has all faded, perhaps because he's so firmly entrenched in the closet, no one except his hardcore fans take him seriously any more.
Or because right-wingers watch Fox during AC's time slot, left-leaners watch MSNBC, and anyone who cares enough to watch news at that time is not the middle-of-the-road undecided independent who could listen to him without recognizing he's full of shit.
- I think Shepherd Smith is unhappy at Fox. I can see CNN luring him away and building their whole prime time around him.
- [quote]He lasted a long time because he was a great interviewer
R115. I'm not defending Piers Morgan because I don't like him. But Larry King was not a great interviewer. He was terrible. He often asked softball, sophmoric questions. But he was a good listener.
And as a result, King got good guests because they knew they could go on his show and sell their book, movie, etc., without being challenged. The guests would open up and tell their stories without feeling like they were on the hotseat. And yes, King's tribute shows were good.
- Shepherd Smith has already been criticized by the right-wing for pointing out during the GOP primaries that Gingrich & Santorum were not serious candidates.
- R120. Anderson Cooper is not full of shit. Yes, I wish he'd come out especially when he does his "Keeping Them Honest" segments. But to say that he's full of shit is too much of an indictment of his entire broadcast.
Mitt Romney is full of shit--entirely--from top to bottom, inside and out. On the other hand, Anderson Cooper does have a fair amount of redeeming qualities.
- But is Anderson Cooper a Mitt Romney supporter, R124?
- Go back to the format of the 1990s! Hire Rosie O'Donnell! Hire Phil Donahue! Bring back Ted Turner! Jesus, when will some of you bitches ever realize that the 1980s and 90s are over, and that trying to re-create the past never works?
- It doesn't help that at 10pm, Anderson is a repeat of the 8pm show.
FOX and MSNBC are mostly live shows at that time.
And, yes, Soledad is super annoying, but she's the only Liberal on the damn network.
- I have some respect for Wolf Blitzer. He was the first anchor to really rip Donald Trump a new one this week over the Birther stuff.
Someone in the media should have taken Trump down a peg a long time ago.
- R124, you have a right to your opinion, and I think it's clear from my post, I don't hate AC, but in my opinion, he is most definitely full of shit.
He's a closet case, and every time I watch him -- admittedly not often -- I find him not hard-hitting and a big sell-out.
The recent clip from his talk show where he had invited a woman to fly from the UK to be on his show, and then kicked her off publicly and insulted her because he didn't like her illustrates why I think the integrity he once tried to display is gone.
I believe AC thinks he is a not-left-not-right version of Rachel Maddow, but it's just not true.
He's not as smart as she is, not as funny as she is, not as polite and respectful (or as hard-hitting) as she is to people with whom she disagrees, and on top of that, he's boring, smug, entitled, and judgmental to an extreme degree.
Plus he's in the closet and pretending it doesn't matter because everyone in his personal life and anyone who matters knows he's gay, even if he's never said it aloud.
So for me, that adds up to Full. Of. Shit.
- I think Cooper should go back to doing just a 10 pm live show.
- "Keeping Them Honest" is total baloney when the host isn't honest.
- The reason they switched Cooper to 8:00 pm is because that is THE most difficult time slot to fill and they have had a whole slew of people fail in that time slot and CNN finally reached their breaking point and decided to put a bigger name in there.
Connie Chung, Paula Zahn, Campbell Brown etc. all failed in that slot and were fired. CNN decided to give up on having a different show at 8:00 pm and 10:00 pm, and just go with the one show at 8:00 pm and then repeat it later at 10:00 pm with the Piers Morgan/Larry King slot in between.
- [quote]Connie Chung, Paula Zahn, Campbell Brown etc. all failed in that slot
Connie Chung had more than a million viewers. Compare that to today's numbers.
- It's funny how many people have an opinion about CNN.
[quote]They don't NEED "big names". They need journalistic integrity, and good solid news reporting.
I agree with this completely. A credible news show, with no analysis and no "stars," would BUILD an audience.
Millions of people watch local news at 10:00 pm - why not create an evening news show that has local cut-ins? It could hardly do worse than the star anchor/opinion/analysis nonsense they're doing now.
Why aren't they going for the NPR audience instead of the Fox audience? I'd say people listen to NPR for news more than analysis.
- Harvey Weinstein is interviewing Bill Clinton.
He's doing a MUCH better job than Piers.
- Why isn't Piers interviewing Bill Clinton?
- Piers is busy with the Queen, r136.
- [quote]Piers is busy with the Queen,
Anderson Cooper is on with Piers tonight?
- Too bad. We need a network that at least pretends to be objective.
- Oh please, R128.
Trump shouldn't have even been invited on at all; that in itself gives him credibility - and CNN less so.
Who in the hell cares what Blitzer did? Blitzer and CNN are the fools for giving Trump the attention he craves. Same thing with Palin.
Don't talk to or about these clowns.
- I'm glad she's a Democrat, but she is kind of annoying. I agree that the rest of the anchors/reporters seem like out and out right wingers, especially Candy Crowley.
- Candy Crowley is big friends with the Bush family.
- False analogy, R140. CNN and the other networks have NO CHOICE but to cover Trump. Unlike Palin, he has become a major part of Romney's campaign and was appearing at a major FUNDRAISER with him in Las Vegas this week.
- Palin and Trump are both clowns who appeal to even bigger clowns. The media does not need to cover them because the only morons they appeal to are... morons.
There is no point in covering them because anyone who would show up to any circus hosted by them is a fool.
- Let me also add that we need to know what Rove and the Koch Bros are up to, not Trump.
Stop making Trump bigger than he already thinks he is because he's not.
- R144, if Trump is appearing at a major fundraiser with the Republican Nominee, there is nothing that can be done to avoid covering him.
- r135, I agree, that was a really good - surprisingly good interview.
- They need to get rid of Pierce Morgan and Erin Burnett.
- [quote]Candy Crowley is big friends with the Bush family.
Well that figures.
- [quote]Candy Crowley is big friends with the Bush family.
It's hard to imagine having a bigger friend than Candy.
- Candy is a huge presence at all of our parties, she is just a ton of fun to be around.
Mrs. Barbara Bush
- Candy carries a lot of weight around CNN.
- It's partially due to Candy's love of candy.
- Is Candy Crowley related to the infamous Satanist, Aleister Crowley, who is rumored to be the real father of Babs Bush?
- Remember back when Candy was even fatter than she is now, and had to stand sideways in the shot? If she stood full-body she would have taken up the whole screen. It was funny.
- LOL, you're right R155, I do remember that.
- Bring me Solo and the Wookie! Ho ho ho ho!
- One of CNN's problems is they keep making excuses for Anderson Cooper. Now, they are blaming his ratings on lead ins. But some of the lead ins have better ratings than him and they switch the station when AC is on. If CNN doesn't look into all of the problems then their decline will continue.
- R158, get over it, as much as you want Anderson to be yanked off the air, it may not happen and yes, Erin Burnett is a terrible lead in for him and so was John King. Sounds like they want to keep Anderson as they should.
- Candy Crowley has the hairiest pussy in the world. I bet you could stuff a mattress with her pubic hair.
- R159 but have you seen his lame ratings? He's 4th place. Behind Nancy Grace for God's sake! Btw is AC paying you to defend him?
- You're too invested in seeing AC off of CNN R161, you say the same stuff over and over and you're getting nowhere. CNN's not going to do what you want, bad ratings or not, they obviously want Anderson there and you're just going to have to accept it. How are YOU going to get rid of him? You can't, but you just keep bellyaching about his bad ratings, let it go.
- Perhaps Anderson should come out. That might improve his ratings.
- Don's out and his ratings are nothing special.
- No one said coming out will lead to a massive ratings increase, just that for Anderson it might give him a different edge that he no longer has.
- I find it interesting that CNN has such sacred, sacred cows, even to the detriment of the network.
- CNN has lost its edge, it doesn't ALL fall on Anderson's shoulders as much as some here want it to be that way.
- CNN still thinks AC is the savior, even with these rock bottom ratings.
what drugs are the CNN execs on anyhow?
- Soledad O'Brien is a fucking moron.
- They better fire everybody if they're going to fire Anderson, because he's not the blame for everything. What kind of drugs are you on R168?
- [quote] because he's not the blame for everything.
Then what they should do is cut his multimillion dollar salary because he is obviously not worth it.
Instead they should tie his salary to his ratings. The higher ratings, the more he will be paid.
- I can't watch Anderson's show. He's such a Log Cabinette. Just watch his show tonight and see how he blames Obama and the Democrats for everything. He belongs on Fox.
- Should Anderson be outed? Should the gay community tell him that if he does not stop his pro-Republican coverage that he will be exposed for the hypocrite he is?
- Bottom line, he has not brought in the ratings, he shouldn't be making millions of dollars.
His salary should be cut.
- I don't blame him for the ratings, but I do agree with R172, he can't even disguise how right wing and Obama hating he is. I think he was creaming over the bad jobs numbers and what it means for Obama.
- Bottom line, he's staying and still getting the big bucks.
- How are the ratings for Anderson's tv show?
I thought that it was a hit.
- [quote] he's staying and still getting the big bucks.
But he doesn't deserve it.
- One of AC obsessed Andersonfraus is lurking on this thread.
- One of the crazed Anderson haters is posting on this thread.
Deserve or not, he's getting and that's just killing you ain't it R178? Too bad. Deal with it.
- Erin is hot to look at but she has a cold personality on tv. Not very inviting.
- She's a Republican, R181. That might explain it.
- I don't think Erin is all that attractive.
- Compared to the other women at CNN she is.
- Compared with Brooke Baldwin, Brianna Keilar, Suzanne M, Soledad, she isn't.
- And the Anderson lunatics have invaded another thread.
- oh yeah, Erin is pretty hot. People say it all the time.
- Erin is smug and snide and a right wing, OWS hating bitch. I hope her show gets cancelled.
- The real lunatic in this thread can be found @ R186.
- The only place Morgan is going is jail...
TV's 10 Hottest News Anchors
- "The Burden Of Being Erin Burnett
Erin Burnett is hot. She is also a financial reporter. Unfortunately, many of the men around her seem incapable of separating the two. "
- "How HOT is Erin Burnett? Wow!
She sure is easy on the eyes and I actually really like her show to"
- If you haven't seen it, check out this video of Chris Matthews fawning all over CNBC's Erin Burnett on last Friday's "Hardball." Anyone who watches MSNBC's "Morning Joe" knows Burnett gets the same slimy treatment from Joe Scarborough too. He's like a giddy school boy at the mention of her name. Digby goes deeper into the piggish nature of Matthews behavior...
- [quote]Go back to the format of the 1990s! Hire Rosie O'Donnell! Hire Phil Donahue! Bring back Ted Turner! Jesus, when will some of you bitches ever realize that the 1980s and 90s are over, and that trying to re-create the past never works
- I do miss that show that they did in the afternoons from the mall area. People were allowed to comment on the topics.
- Freakin Yids ruined it!
- They need to get rid of John King and his wandering cock.
And Kate Bouldwin too!!!
Dana Bash servin up the divorce papers.
- Anderson Cooper has absolutely no credibility because he has such a SLIM news-background before coming to CNN
- I envy people like Erin.
Grew up wealthy.
Bit of fame.
- have they ever revealed who John King was fucking?
Was it someone on-air?
- Experience counts and some people have quite a bit of it.
I'm not getting where Erin Burnett is so hot and smart, she's only ok looking and is constantly getting criticism for her lack of knowledge on foreign policy and reliance on right wing talking points. She even made Salon's hack list.
- [quote] Experience counts and some people have quite a bit of it.
and Anderson Cooper has no experience before CNN
- Anderson has expeirence in being overpaid and overrated and not bringing in viewers.
- He has plenty of it now and that matters, but I'm not going to go back and forth on this with someone who obviously has an ax to grind against AC. Keep on grinding, we'll just have to disagree.
- I thought that Anderson's job as host of "The Mole" was considered experience?
- They spent too much time pushing AC and now viewers got tried of him and they have nothing to fall back on. Its a diaster. It might have worked 2005 t0 2008 but viewers are sick of AC and his ratings and CNN ratings prove it. Yet, they still keep making excuses for him. Oh well, their failure.
- CNN hired AC because of his Celeb status. Hired him from the mole? Come on! LOL
- [quote] He has plenty of it now and that matters,
R205 please fill in the blanks
Number of Emmys won by AC as an INDIVIDUAL____
Number of years spent in local news___
Number of years spent as a Washington reporter___
Number of years spent working in a network news Bureau outside of NY___
Number of years spent working as a reporter overseas___
Go ahead and fill in the blanks, if we are spouting off mis-information about his past news experience. Go fill in AC past news experience BEFORE CNN.
If you can't, then it is true. Anderson Cooper has zero experience as a journalist. So what is he doing in news at CNN?
- R209 he didn't even get a degeree in journalism or go to journalism school.
- Just because Tweety and Rush think Erin is hot doesn't make her so.
- R205 cannot fill in the blanks, so it should be agreed upon that AC has ZERO experience in news before CNN.
There is no dispute.
- Anderson is not the reason that CNN is suffering.
- R213 he has no news experience before CNN. It shows in his inept performance on-camera.
- I swear, I am regular watcher of CNN and I wouldn't know Erin Burnett if she knocked on my front door right now.
- He's not inept on camera.
- OK he has no news experience before CNN
That is NOT in dispute.
- "In 1995, Cooper became a correspondent for ABC News, eventually rising to the position of co-anchor on its overnight World News Now program on September 21, 1999."
You are very wrong, R217
- R218 please fill in the blanks at R209
If you can't, then he has had very SLIM news experience before joining CNN
That is not in dispute his slim news background.
- R218 a general assignment reporter is nothing to brag about, and is hardly brain surgery.
- OK he has very SLIM news experience before CNN
That is NOT in dispute.
- It was actually feature reporting he did at ABC which is not really news reporting.
At World News Now all he did was read off a tele-prompter.
So again he had no news experience before joining CNN
SO that is NOT in dispute anymore.
- AC had no news experience before joining CNN
THAT IS A FACT AND NOT IN DISPUTE!
He did not have slim experience before CNN. He had extensive experience. He been co-anchor of World News Now and was a reporter for years before that. A look at his wiki page would show that he had other experience outside of ABC.
- [quote] He did not have slim experience before CNN. He had extensive experience. He been co-anchor of World News Now
All he did was read off a tele-prompter
[quote] and was a reporter for years before that.
All he did was 'feature' reporting. He didn't do any news reports at all.
Again if you cannot fill-out R209 then the conclusion is that he has virtually no news experience before joining CNN
That is NOT in dispute.
- R225, you keep moving the goal posts. Who had more experience by age 35 than Anderson did when he went to CNN?
- Oh Lord. Can we have a SINGLE thread that doesnt evolve into discussion about Anderson Cooper's career and whether he is still with Ben or not? Can we??
- R227 is right. Let's keep the discussion to being about CNN's overall predicament as a whole and where they should go from here rather than becoming obsessed over one person.
- [quote] Who had more experience by age 35 than Anderson did when he went to CNN?
Jane Pauley was on Today at age 25
Joan Lunden was on GMA by age 30
Jessica Savitch was hired at NBC News by age 30
I could go on, but my point has been made. TONS of people have gotten to the network level by age 30, five years before AC went to CNN at age 35.
- Katie Couric began as anchor for Today at age 34. She was actually Pentagon correspondent before that by age 32.
- Today and GMA are not news shows, R229. They just read TPs and talk to celebrities. I'll give you Jessica S, but she's one person 30 years ago.
- Bottom line Anderson Cooper had virtually no news experience before joining CNN.
That is NOT in dispute anymore.
- Katie Couric was pentagon correspondent by age 32.
Lesley Stahl and Connie Chung were both Washington reporters at CBS News in their 20s.
- It's not relevant to the issue at hand, R232. I'm not a fan of Anderson (I think he's a Republican), but the main topic here is the future of CNN and its overall direction.
Getting into a bitch fest over Anderson isn't getting us anywhere.
- R232 - You sound like those Obama haters who keep talking about him being just a community organizer. You and they are both wrong.
- Jake Tapper was ABC News Washington Political Reporter by age 34.
- [quote] but the main topic here is the future of CNN and its overall direction.
But the issue is AC non-existent news experience. As such because he has no experience, he should go.
Blame the andersonfans who insists he has news experience, when it has proven he has none.
- Norah O'Donnell was NBC Chief Washington Correspondent at age 29.
I think I've proven my point that MANY MANY people have gotten to the network level under the age of 35. So AC is nothing special having gotten to CNN at age 35.
Face it AC has zero news experience before joining CNN. That is now not in dispute.
- [quote] You and they are both wrong.
Then fill out R209
If you can't, the bottom line is that AC has no news experience.
- R209 is biased against AC. He had about five years of experience with ABC in NY, some of that as a co-host for World News Tonight.
- Today CNN had Reynold's Wolf anchoring the desk on one channel and Rob Marciano on the other, and neither of them were doing the weather. They were both reading the news.
It seemed like CNN just gave up on the idea of even pretending their anchors are more than comely talking heads.
- I would rather watch MSNBC. CNN is too conservative.
- [quote] He had about five years of experience with ABC in NY, some of that as a co-host for World News Tonight.
Again all he did was read off a tele-prompter, reading words someone else wrote for him. And during the graveyard shift, where no is watching.
Please fill out R209, because if you can't there is no dispute. He has no news experience before joining CNN.
- R240 how is R209 being biased, when you can't even fill in AC own past work experience?
- OK R240 why don't we say this. AC had a very SLIM news background before joining CNN.
Feel better? Then that FACT is not is dispute.
- Paula Zahn and Bill Hemmer were great in the morning. Bill has great chemistry with a nice looking lady that isn't threatening. He'd be good as Kelly Rippa's co-host.
Kelly should have her husband Mark and Bill on her show, and have the guys take off their shirts.
- Rob Marciano is CNN's Weatherman, but they are grooming him to have some basic anchor experience by letting him host the morning show on the weekends.
He is rumored to be a Republican.
- At this rate, we soon won't be able to distinguish Anderson's ratings numbers from his T-cell count!
- Luke Russert was reporting at MSNBC at age 22, and within two years is filling in as host for Chuck Todd and several of the other anchors.
Top that, Anderson Cooper!
- Erin Burnett is horrible.
Wolf Blitzer is beyond horrible (Wolf, vary your speech cadence once in a while for fuck's sake!).
Plus the entire network was GW Bush's cheerleading team for the faux Iraq WMD thing.
- I've got a novel idea for CNN. Report the fucking news. Go out an hire some news reporters and a few hosts who know something about he news they read. Get rid of the models - gay men and straight men and big bosomed blondes - who are passing as reporters and hosts. Stop copying Fox and MSNBC. They aren't successful. They just don't suck as much as you do.
And another thing, keep your anchors at home doing the fucking news. If AC wants to be a celebrity talk show host, let him go off and do it. If he wants to be a 60 Minutes host, let him go. He's a distraction, not a reporter. He's never going to be Edward Murrow. He's a closeted stuttering model, nothing more. Let him go. Then as a network, grow up and look to your distant past and be what Ted created in the first place - a 24 hour NEWS network.
- Sorry about the poor typing.
Go out AND hire.... who know something about THE news....
- It is so scary how some of AC obsessed andersonfraus think he is even in the same league as Edward Murrow.
Again AC had an extremely SLIM news background before joining CNN.
That is NOT in dispute.
- I am amazed that nobody has ever walked up to Blitzer and asked him to lay off on the "uhhh....uhhh...uhhh"s he uses in every other sentence.
- I wonder how AC feels about his low ratings or does he not care as long as he's paid?
- I think he just giggles when he sees the ratings and says "Well, MY check cleared."
- AC continues to get blown away by the competetion. from Monday.
8PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR 2,971 489 1,138
CNN Anderson Cooper 360 460 151 196
MSNBC Ed Show 818 181 318
CNBC BIO: THE ROCKEFELLERS 200 55 98
HLN Nancy Grace 430 181 247
- AC has an EXTREMELY SLIM News Background before joining CNN
That fact is not in dispute.
- R259 I wonder how come no one talks about his lack of education. He didn't go to journalism school, or get a degree in journalism. Therefore academically he is disqualified to be a journalist. A doctor must get a doctorate degree. A journalist must get a degree like Don Lemon did.
- [quote]I am amazed that nobody has ever walked up to Blitzer and asked him to lay off on the "uhhh....uhhh...uhhh"s he uses in every other sentence.
Yeah, what's up with that? Very annoying habit of his. I love that there was an article written recently about Wolf confronting Trump implying that Wolf had finally woken up from his coma to do something substantial.
- [quote]He didn't go to journalism school, or get a degree in journalism. Therefore academically he is disqualified to be a journalist.
He is an actor who reads a teleprompter. What on earth makes you think he needs to have studied journalism?
- [quote] He is an actor who reads a teleprompter.
Which is exactly why he has no news experience, despite claims from others here on this thread
- Any network that would hire Ari Fleischer and Dana Loesch, both right wing nitwits, DESERVES low ratings.
I saw John King and Dana Bash on screen together last night, awkward.
- Ari Fleischer is Canadian
- Anderson Cooper is a dilettante.
- [quote]Ari Fleischer is Canadian
Well he and his former idiot boss sure fucked up this country and he has the nerve to be smug and snide when he's on CNN, he's an asshole who should be in jail as far as I'm concerned.
- Forgive me, I thought you meant Ali Velshi, NOT Ari Fleischer. SORRY.
BTW David Frum is also Canadian, in addition to Ali Velshi.
- Dana Bash, John King, and Rob Marciano are all Canadian as well.
- CNN needs to do what R251 suggests-- Get rid of the glitz & just start reporting the damn news.
They need to be the Apple of cable news. For years Apple was in the shadow of Microsoft but Apple just kept on producing computers aiming for that niche market of techies & engineers & computer nerds & left the flash to Microsoft.
In the same way, CNN needs to aim for that small market that still wants to hear the news without the talking heads telling them how to think. Assume your audience is smart & intelligent. Aim for this niche market & sell your advertisers on this group. Stop trying to compete for the audience of loony toons & birthers.
- Marciano got a lot of flack a few years ago when he went on a mini rant denying global warming. He's very Republican, which is why the new guy from Fox is keeping him and Chad Myers and fired all the other weather people.
- [quote] CNN needs to aim for that small market that still wants to hear the news without the talking heads telling them how to think.
That small market is already getting that news from the Internet. They're not sitting around at 9 in the evening, wanting to find out what happened hours earlier.
- LOL R269.
I hate Marciano because he had a hissy fit when a speech by President Obama interrupted his precious weather report. So Chad's a right winger too?
- The ones to blame are the corporate idiots that outsted Ted Turner. Say whatever you want about him but he had a fucking idea on how to run the business with an editorial line that appealed to its viewers. Now the clowns running the circus push for right wing and when that fails even more right wing and when that also fails etc.
- R272 I kind of agree, except where's the internet getting their info from? Most of the time they're not sending reporters out in the field, in war zones, doing interviews, doing investigative reporting but simply linking stories from other sites.
There's still room for solid reporting news on TV. Jon Stewart does a better job with showing & analyzing news than CNN right now. CNN has the means & the time to tell the more complete story.
- CNN doesn't WANT to tell the complete, HONEST story because then they'd have to admit that Republicans have doomed this nation and democracy and have deliberately set out to get President Obama out of office. CNN can't afford to upset the GOP/Tea Party. Jon Stewart should love CNN since he's on this "both sides do it" kick and is always defending Republicans and acting as if their stubborn obstructionism is business as usual and normal. The GOP today is some other entity, they are not reasonable or moderate, they don't compromise like in the past, they are out to destroy. That's something Jon and CNN don't get.
- I really dont get the Republican edge you guys day you are getting when you watch CNN. And I promise Im not a Republican.
[quote]Then as a network, grow up and look to your distant past and be what Ted created in the first place - a 24 hour NEWS network.
I think CNN needs to give up on trying to be balanced, or picking a political side to stand on. MSNBC and FOX have that covered. CNN should take some cues from their Time Warner cousin TMZ and focus on just bringing exclusive and breaking news 24/7. Thats what people want from CNN. There are enough pontificating heads and "personalities" on cable. Bringing news and developments to viewers first before anybody should be their goal.
- Don't the initials CNN stand for Canadian News Network?
- CNN has canceled John King's show.
Unfortunately, they have given Wolf Blitzer his third hour BACK!!!!!
- Wolf Blitzer is a decent anchor - one of the better ones at CNN. Not sure why he gets bashed on DL so much.
He's not perfect, but at least he exposes liars. Look at what he did to Donald Trump last month.
- If the ratings were too low because they were left wing, they would have moved right long ago. The reverse does not apply. Why not? Because the right doesn't care whether their media make money, only that they control and direct opinion, which can lead to profitable outcomes in all sorts of fields.
- CNN,the brand, just seems so dated. I used to watch it religiously and now hardly at all. It wasn't some big choice based on quality of programming or anything. I just slowly stopped.
- R281 makes some interesting points.
- Jason Carroll really dresses "gay." He wore a tight, muscle hugging polo that looked more like club wear on tv a moment ago. He looked so gay.
- Cnn's coverage of the Vice Presidential Debates....totally, just like CNN
Can't you at least try to be real and open about your reporting..too one sided!!!!!!
cna't take it. sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- David Gergen is as hard to the right as anyone on Fox, yet they always try and pass him off as a down the middle commentator.
- I blame Piers "have you ever been properly in love" Morgan
- I find CNN, Fox and MSNBC to all be very annoying. I'm sick of getting news with a slant and all of them are guilty. Why can't we just get the facts? They don't have to "interpret" it for us. CNN ratings going down? Gee maybe fire that cunt Piers Morgan and get someone who is likable? Maybe tell Anderson Cooper to tone down his new-found queeny bitch behavior? for starters.
- Gergen can't function unless he's denigrating President Obama and kissing Republicans asses. He stopped being down the middle a long time ago.
- R288, you're looking for "The Newshour" on PBS. Personally, I enjoy MSNBC but if you are looking for absolutely factual, unbiased, nothing but the news then you want "The Newshour" for sure.
- R285, you must find a way to ween yourself off of that shit network. CNN is dead. No credibility left.
- The Republican pundits on tonight's panel looked like orange oompaloompas. Evidently the make-up people are not Republicans. Dead Eye Matalin is incapable of giving her opinion without adopting an air of haughty disdain. Paul Begala looked like he could smell her cunt. I like Van Johnson. He deserves better. I have come to really dislike Anderson. And the guy who was manning the fact checking board looked and acted like a character on the Simpsons. I rarely watch CNN but I tried to surf all the coverage on the debate. FOX. CNN. It was hard to tell them apart.
- [quote]CNN Anderson Cooper: "Paul Ryan has to be happy that he proved himself to be a potential president"
Ok, NOW I think Anderson's an evil right winger for sure. WTF is he talking about with this shit?
- [quote]Dead Eye Matalin is incapable of giving her opinion without adopting an air of haughty disdain. Paul Begala looked like he could smell her cunt.
And just like that, two new DL characters are born.
- Anderson Cooper wants Paul Ryan's dilfy dick. DUH. Why else is he praising him?
- I think Anderson is older than Paul Ryan so I doubt he'd see him as dilfy.
- This is now personal with Anderson Cooper. It's all about Ambassador Stephen's journal that he was quoting from without attribution. It's obvious that Cooper began to be extremely critical of the Obama administration and overly praising of the Romney camp soon after he was forced to reveal his source.
- It goes further back than the Libya situation. Anderson was the only reporter still going on and on about Rev. Wright even after Obama had made his speech about it - for most reporters it was settled, but AC wouldn't let up on it, he kept doing reports about Obama's connection to Wright as if he were trying to cast doubt on Obama's character. He's been against Obama from the beginning. The only time he's been fair to the president was when he was covering the birthers and consistently discrediting them.
- R296 but Ryan is a father. Being a dilf doesn't mean you have to be old, but usually the men are late 30s and up since they're fathers...
I'm sure Cooper has whacked off to those work out pics during his "research" so he could formulate some ideas about the candidates...
- Where are these whack worthy workout photos BTW!
- R300 there's a thread here somewhere with a link.
Well given the nature of their open relationship, I'm sure Cooper's bf wouldn't mind if he caught little Andy with a vibrator up his ass looking at a pumping Paul.
- [quote] lively, insightly and sometimes provocative discussion.
[quote] Piers was supposed to have brung in big ratings too
- Piers Morgan has a great face for radio
- CNN is truly loathsome. And idiotic. They preach the rightwing gospel to an audience that doesn't want to hear it. The freepers have their own channel. Why CNN thinks it can take them from Fox is ridiculous. Just a terrible, terrible organization.
Domestically, that is. Internationally, CNN still rules. And they make a lot of money of it. They should just shutter up the American operation and go for the foreign.
- International CNN is just as big a joke. BBC World, Al-Jazeera English, France 24, Deutsche Welle, even Russia Today and CCTV 9 are much better.
- Good on ya, CNN! Major fail at Fox-lite.
- HLN shows movies now?!?!?! The Denzel movie Glory is on right now!
Can CNN be far behind? Their ridiculous (ripe for SNL parody) anchor game show is coming soon.
- MSNBC has a game show too now. WTF is going on with these networks?
- It looks like HLN only has a few hours of news each day now.
They still have the morning show with Robyn, and then not much more.
- CNN will survive, even if HLN folds.
- The stupid CNN game show is on tonight.
- HLN WENT DOWNHILL ONCE THEY CANCELLED JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL'S SHOW!!!!!!!!
- [quote]The stupid CNN game show is on tonight.
Oh, they should ask Richard Dawkins to host. It would be great to see him back, and kissing all the lady contestants!
- R314 - I don't know whether you are brilliant or ignorant.
- BRING BACK LYNDON SOLES!!
- I only saw a little bit of the anchor game show, but it looked like it demonstrated what we all already know.
Don Lemon is not the brightest bulb on their airwaves.
- They need a revamping.
- I don't know if Sunday movie night on HLN was just a one-shot thing. I haven't seen them do it again since they showed Glory a couple weeks ago.
- For the second night in a row, Don Lemon looked like he was about to cry on the broadcast. He was also very pale. Could this be his last week?
- Why is their website always filled with old news? I see the same stories on the front page for 2 or 3 days before they change them.
- R320 - why was he about to cry?
- R321: I've been saying that for a year, or longer. I hardly ever go to their site anymore, it's not current. And the new graphical layout is messy, esp on a mobile.
- Don had a panel on last night to talk about Ferguson developments. He said they did great and invited them back tomorrow night. Except one of the two white men (not the black men on the panel) had the balls to chime in: "No problem. It was so easy I didn't have to say anything."
- I thought Soledad O'Brien was a good face for the network.
Why did they get rid of her? Is she not liked by viewers?
- Did hey get rid of her R325?
- they not hey
- How about Brianna Keilar for State of the Union?
- Better ratings in January
- They seem to have foresaien Atlanta.
- I miss Elsa Klensch.
- Brooke Baldwin has gone very blonde.
- CNN is so race obsessed that it's fucking ridiculous.... but only if blacks are the perceived victims.
If it's the other way around(like the knockout game or mob attacks on white fair goers), CNN doesn't want to hear about it and they certainly don't want to report on it.
- Brooke yesterday
- R334 is a freeper.
- I could care less about their TV ratings, as I read all my news online.
However, CNN's website is just awful. Terrible layout & stories are left to linger there for days & days on end. Way beyond a new story's "expiration date".
- Until they hand over the reins back to Ted Turner to bring it back to its former glory when they actually covered serious news in a serious manner, they'll only serve as a source for ridicule.
And get rid of Wolf Blitzer.
I haven't watched for years because they became such shit.
- R336 is Al Sharpton
I think R334 posting is very true.
- Some of their anchors and hosts need to go.
Wolf Blitzer is 1 of the dumbest idiots ever. Sometimes he asks the silliest questions that everyone except him already knows the answer to. He also makes everything very sound dramatic and it's annoying.
Brooke Baldwin is another idiot. She can't pronounce her e's at all. EVERY word that has an "e" in it, she'll pronounce the "e" as an "i". Inergy, imotion, iny, iver, and she asks dumb questions too
Also, this is not just a criticism for CNN but for every news channel (national and local), they all misuse and abuse the phrase "breaking news". In the last 10 years or so this has been a major problem. "Breaking news" should really only be used when some very important shocking event happens. I've seen on CNN "breaking news" with the caption "Obama speaks" about 1 issue or another and it's just pathetic.
- A few weeks back, I was watching the 90s movie, "Contact", which uses CNN soundbites, spliced into the action.
Watch some of those, then watch CNN now.
The plunge in quality reporting & journalism they've taken in the past 20 yrs, is astounding.
- all i know was that something was going on. when they turned to young "anchors/reporters" who look like they just graduated from college and wearing jeans and "casual wear" all to get the young audience viewer...
add in the constant ridiculous various trial coverage non stop (do people actually want these trials and the coverage for hours a day for forever?)...
add in for example the use of no talents (literally!) recently of jack osborne being on air as a social commentator and oh brother! time to pull the plug on this once "THEE nation's cable news channel"...
- I also question why an idiot like Anthony Bourdain gets a show on CNN. I like the concept of traveling to various countries/areas and connecting with the locals to eat authentic food but Bourdain is so unlikable, not to mention stupid.
- R343: Not to mention, incredibly unattractive.
- Blizer needs to retire.
- They need to put AC in tighter shirts while focusing on his pecs and biceps. That would get the ratings up. I also like HLN's Robin Meade.
Someone needs to call Chris Cuomo!!!
- CNN has never been the same since Bobbie Batista was fired. She was the heart and soul of that network.
- For you R347
- Brianna Keilar battling Lanny Davis over the Clinton e-mails.
- oh yeah, i remember bobbie batista.. weht.. in fact, what happened to all the early CNN other early cable news anchors? did they retire? willingly or unwillingly (ageism).. do they work doing something else behind the scenes?
or are they retired from the workplace in any capacity all together?..
always wondered where does a anchor go career wise when they are no longer on the air? don't know if they could go back to some city news when you've been on nation wide?
- [quote] always wondered where does a anchor go career wise when they are no longer on the air?
In Bobbie Battista's case, you can always make the switch to fake news.
- R340 - Brooke is pretty sharp.
- R348 what's with her eyes? crossed eyes?
- Why was bobbie battista fired
- I think she left on her own after the AOL merger. R354
- I just tried listing to CNN on Sirius, nothing but annoying ducking commercials. Hopeless.
- r341, Weren't the CNN soundbites and footage used in "Contact" specifically created for the movie?
(It's been a while since I've seen it, but I think I'm right.)
I ask because I believe that when CNN started using its on-air people in fictional settings--movies and entertainment shows on TV--their credibility took a huge hit, from which it has never recovered.
The intention was to blur the line between fact and fiction--the better to disseminate propaganda--but at what cost?
CNN is a joke.
"Wag The Dog" is a film that lifted the curtain on what CNN and the other corporate news entities are really about.
- R357 - I think Contact used a mixture of real and made up CNN spots.
- R334 and R339 are racists.
- John King looks ancient.
- John King's star has fallen at CNN. No one cares about him until an election.
- How would you fix CNN?
- [quote]How would you fix CNN?
I'd do something like Battle Royale with all the on-air personalities. Last man or woman standing gets a muffin basket. Then they close the place down and run CNN International in its place.
- Be what they were... a news network.
- They need to establish credibility.
- Jeff Zucker's mandate was to decimate CNN as a "news-gathering" operation--turning it instead into another reality show dumping ground and government propaganda outlet (the latter of which it had already become).
So far, so good!
If they're going to insist on doing some semblance of news--for old time's sake--they should bring back the broad with big tits (Lynne, something?) and mute her audio.
- R367 - Or bring in Robin Meade.
- The decline started when they lost Bill Hemmer and promoted Anderson Cooper. Cooper was never able to get ratings but they held him up as some kind of superstar.
Instead of dumping him, they kept trying to make him into a respectable newsman a la Bill Hemmer. Thing is they had Hemmer and many others like them and tossed them aside for the flavor of the month.
All major news organizations are propaganda outlets.
- Agreed, r370--but as a CNN viewer from its very first days on the air, I don't believe that was Ted Turner's objective--nor was it his doing.
Zucker has stated that "there simply isn't enough news to support a 24 hour operation these days"(!)--an absurd notion, but one which explains why he has methodically gutted the operation.
Turner wanted a "liberal" counterbalance to the "conservative" networks, but now that liberals and conservatives have both been co-opted by the banks and corporations, they are now ALL government propaganda outlets.
- "Zucker has stated that "there simply isn't enough news to support a 24 hour operation these days"(!)--an absurd notion, but one which explains why he has methodically gutted the operation."
When did he say that R371?
- [quote]Instead of dumping him, they kept trying to make him into a respectable newsman a la Bill Hemmer.
No one on Fox can be considered 'respectable'. CNN was right to let him go and get someone like Anderson Cooper who knows how to do his job without fabricating and making up facts.
- [quote]“We're all regurgitating the same information. I want people to say, ‘You know what? That was interesting. I hadn't thought of that,’” Zucker said. “The goal for the next six months, is that we need more shows and less newscasts.”
From the capitalnewyork.com feature, dated Dec. 3, 2013, headlined: "Zucker plans massive change at CNN"
People desperately want to believe that the government isn't evil, that we don't live in a police state, that prosperity is right around the corner if we just elect the "right" politicians.
Thankfully, smart people have quit believing the government lies, and see the evil rot at the heart of Mordor on the Potomac.
- Sister network HLN continues to morph into something more lika an entertainment channel.
The network is planning for a second game show based on something from the Ellen program.
- It is all Mike Rowe's fault. Who gives a shit about him? And Anthony Bourdain- charisma free and a snobbish asshole.
- I have no fucking clue how HLN is managing to stay afloat.
Endless reruns of "Forensic Files" and now they have Dr Drew in front of a live studio audience.
Much like his old "Loveline" show on MTV.