This is the only thread about him so I'll post it here. Carlos just got married, and Lourdes attended the ceremony. He still looks decent though that beard should go. For whatever reason, he has a thing for weird-looking women who either have or color their hair blonde.
Really, can anyone have an amicable relationship with Madge?
As long as she keeps sending the checks, amiabilty abounds.
I wonder if Madonna is jealous that her former men have found love and settled down into happy lives with new people while she has to have guys that are on her payroll to be her boyfriend.
Carlos is definitely on Madge's payroll. He is Lourdes' daddy and has never embarrassed M too badly. So he gives good value.
"I wonder if Madonna is jealous that her former men have found love and settled down into happy lives with new people while she has to have guys that are on her payroll to be her boyfriend."
What makes you think they've "settled into happy lives". Men can't be alone, they'd rather be with ANYONE.
[quote]What makes you think they've "settled into happy lives". Men can't be alone, they'd rather be with ANYONE.
A lot like Vadge, who has a new boyfriend within a few weeks after she has a breakup.
Carlos definitely has a type: bleached blondes with eating disorders. AndI control issues.
Who the fuck is that?
Have to say I expected Carlos to start banging only hot chicks after he raised his profile by being Vadge's first baby daddy. Clearly he didn't marry based on looks. I wonder if his new wife has money.
Vadge goes for good looking younger guys-we know it's all about feeding her ego that she can still get the hotties, even if she has to pay them.
[quote]and Lourdes attended the ceremony.
Why wouldn't she? He has been in her life the whole time and they are close.
That was a stupid article. Why would Lourdes bear her father ill will because her parents split up? Who could live with Madonna on a long term basis? He was clearly nothing but a sperm donor, since Dennis Rodman declined the offer.
Out of all the men she has ever been with, Vadge should have held onto this one. I know he is an "actor," but it was never like he was trying to ride her coattails or mug in front of the cameras constantly. He leads a pretty stable and quiet life, considering...
I guess Vadge thought he was beneath her and threw herself at Ritchie for all the wrong reasons (career motivation, etc...) and that just blew up in her face. You never hear Leon calling her and "old piece of gristle."
I thought it was strange that while Ritchie & her were married, they'd leave Rocco with Leon while they went on trips. I mean I know Rocco is Lola's brother, but it just seemed odd to me. I think Ritchie was even asked about it once and just said that Leon as one of the few people he could actually feel comfortable leaving his on with.
R11 / R12 well who knows with Vadge? She tends to hate most other women. It's good she let her daughter go to the wedding.
Why is Lourdes wearing that scarf?
Was Carlos Leon and Madonna ever really together or was he just a surrogate?
[quote] Carlos is definitely on Madge's payroll
I don't think he is. And if he is, she doesn't give him much. About 10 yrs ago I saw a National Enquirer story about Carlos not taking money from Madonna. It showed him driving his Lourdes around in some old, crappy car (about 18 yrs old)
Lourdes looks like she's going to a Brazillian funeral showing.
I'm curious about the scarf too. It was warm when they married, everyone else is in summer clothes. Is it a Kabballah thing maybe?
I also believe that Leon hasn't been made wealthy from his ties to Madge. He may get some kind of allowance for housing in NYC since Lourdes visits him often and Madge might have possible security issues, would want him to be in a bldg with decent security, etc. But other than that I don't think he's getting big $.
His new wife is Danish (obviously) and is an assistant designer for Raf Simons I believe.
So Vadge always had it bad for Latin men huh? Antonio Banderas (see Truth or Dare), Jose Canseco, Carlos Leon, her boytoy from Brazil...interesting that her longer relationships were with Penn and Richie though.
Vadge likes 2 things, besides money:
Men who are connected and can further her career, and
Men who are extremely, prominently, jaw droppingly well hung.
Every man she's been with has been in one category. A small number have been in both.
Two guesses which category Carlos falls into.
Okay, but what did Guy Ritchie see in Madonna?
[quote]Okay, but what did Guy Ritchie see in Madonna?
He reportedly got between $75-$100 million in the divorce because Vadge was too damn stupid to get a prenup.
[quote]So Vadge always had it bad for Latin men huh? Antonio Banderas (see Truth or Dare), Jose Canseco, Carlos Leon, her boytoy from Brazil...interesting that her longer relationships were with Penn and Richie though.
Not just Latin men, but black men as well (her current boytoy is half black French guy).
I've also noticed that she's more than happy to fuck ethnic guys, but she's only married white men. What's that say?
Madge wouldn't know a healthy relationship if it hit her in face and gave her a black eye. She talks about perfect love and romance and relationships the way crazy girls who love drama do. Carlos was probably too healthy for her and she couldn't handle it. He seems like a decent bloke.
r21 Enough to get circumcised!
lmao R23 are you saying Vadge is racist because she fetishizes non-white men for their alleged big dicks and only views white men as suitable for marriage? Interesting theory and I never considered it before. Her sexual partner list is too long to complete research.
I'm a Madonna fan and was on a message board a while back where someone pointed out Madge's racist bent; White guys are for marriage, black and hispanics are for fucking, asian guys aren't even in the picture, except in her shows where she picks the feminine ones or puts them in dresses. And then there are the times in a couple of performances where she has a driver who is black.
wow. We've really got her this time. Vadge is disgusting if this theory about her way of thinking is true.
I don't think he aged that well. Carlos used to be pretty hot.
this "portrait" pic is just terrible. Why did they pick that angle?
R30 I always did think he looked greasy and ugly, but that picture takes the cake!
Chris Ciccone revealed in his book that although Carlos was probably the perfect man for his sister, she threw him off because she didn't think Leon was smart enough.
Latin men are her fetish, her whores. Ritchie and Penn were outside of that sexual fetish - more "realistic".
r21 - before he went off with Madonna, Guy Ritchie broke off with his girlfriend, whom he apparently was very much in love with, and told the woman that he didn't want to break it off with her but (his exact quotes, according to the girl-in-question) "Hey, it's Madonna".
You can say all you want about how superficial Madonna is, but Guy Ritchie is a douchebag. He and Madonna were actually made for one another.
So, does that mean she thought Ritchie and Penn were smart? Ha.
R4, a remedial course in English writing would benefit you no matter your current age. Why don't you consider it? You'll be a better person.
r34, more like "geniuses" in their art. Penn was once considered the next big thing, a Hollywood rebel who was stepping in the shoes of DeNiro and Pacino. Ritchie was once considered an up-and-coming iconoclastic director, edgy, avant-garde, rule-breaking.
r28 posted that after checking out the Guys with Uncut dicks thread.
Stop clutching your pearls or you'll strangle yourself
R37 is the resident Vadge stan, I see. Vadge does appear to treat guys of different races differently. I wonder why she never went after a black or mixed race latino guy for his "art" or "genius"? She does seem to be about the physical with them, whereas she dates ugly white guys with "status".
Jean-Michel Basquiat and Jellybean Benitez were not exactly gorgeous, physically attractive men, but they were Madonna's earlier boyfriends.
I saw him on the subway a few years back. He sports that "smelly" look: un-shaven, greasy long hair, ripped jeans, old boots.
He is a terrible actor, too.
But didn't Madge give him some shush money when they broke up? It was in exchange for him never writing a book about her or giving statements about their relationship.
R39 she was no doubt using them. That was before she was famous. She wouldn't have had a debut hit record if it weren't for Jellybean remixing the beats to make her whack voice sound better. Basquiat gave her more street cred, in her mind. After she became famous she could be more choosy.
Troll-dar me, r38. Things are never what they seem in your black-and-white little world.
lol R40 thanks for the scoop.
I wonder why Carlos didn't try to become a celeb after his time with Vadge?
Kind of off topic but I saw Cher on Watch What Happens Live and the subject of Madonna came up. I got a good laugh when Cher referred to her as Madge. I love that and shows a bit what Cher thinks of her.
R22, would you mind citing your source for your numbers? We are tired of assholes like you pulling them out of your ass.
She's always had lousy taste. That goes for her taste in men too.
In the legion of people Vadge has fucked, the only ones I've ever envied her for were Gabriel Byrne and Rupert Everett - both ancient history.
I'll pass on the rest.
The Mail is in dire need of a proofreader and/or fact checker. Lourdes is listed as both 14 and 16 in that article.
As for the scarf, was the ceremony in a Catholic church? Perhaps Lourdes, ever the rebel, has become a Roman Catholic? Wasn't Madonna raised a Catholic? I assume Leon is also a Catholic, most Hispanic New Yorkers are raised as Catholic.
Lourdes was possibly wearing the scarf because she was going into a church. Wearing a scarf, or a hat, is the tradition for Catholic women to do when going into a church. Men take their hats off, women keep them on.
R50 eew to Gabriel and Rupert
R51 but the scarf and hat thing for women is an older practice...most don't wear it anymore. She was probably doing it for style.
She did it for the same reason her mother does things - so people could talk about it.
does anyone know if Lourdes wants an entertainment career? or if Madonna plans to have her enter into that?
[quote]In the legion of people Vadge has fucked, the only ones I've ever envied her for were Gabriel Byrne and Rupert Everett - both ancient history.
Where on earth did you come up with that? Rupert is GAY and Gabriel was married to Ellen Barkin from 1988-1999 and Madonna was married from 1985-1989 and from 2000-2008, so how the hell could they have ever dated?
r50 said fucked, not dated. Who knows what went down?
R57 Which makes even less sense considering Everett is gay as can be.
Unless Madonna fucked Everett with a strap on, I doubt they did anything sexual.