I know she's the subject of many jokes around here, but she is just so fucking awesome. Anyone heard LITTLE MISS HAVANA yet? The album kicks ass. Pharell was a good idea for producer. She's a middle aged woman singing appropriate songs but with current beats.
And she's a worldwide gay icon.
Come on guys.
No love for Gloria!!
And remember, it's eh-STEH-fahn, not ESTA-fahn.
" WE LOVE GLO! "
EXCLUSIVE: Gloria Estefan Talks Target Controversy, Gay Marriage and New CD
In this exclusive chat, the Queen of Latin Pop opens up about conservative upbringing and her message to gay fans
By Chris Azzopardi
Gloria Estefan isn't called the Queen of Latin Pop for nothing. Over three decades - and counting - she's earned it.
Since needing a "Dr. Beat" to control her feet in the '80s, then as part of Miami Sound Machine, Estefan has amassed seven Grammy awards and released 25 albums (selling over 90 million copies of them worldwide), spawning hits like "Conga," "Reach" and "Rhythm is Gonna Get You" - which it did, many times over. And it will yet again with "Miss Little Havana" (out Sept. 27), her first English-language release since 2003 that returns to her Latin-dance roots with producer Pharrell Williams' urban flair.
Estefan's first English album in eight years, though, isn't just getting buzz for her long-awaited comeback - but the way it's being released. Estefan partnered with Target, known for its recent support of anti-gay politics, for the release of "Miss Little Havana" (it's also available through iTunes). In this exclusive chat, the 54-year-old performer opened up about the deal, why she hopes you'll give the corporation another chance and just how deep her everlasting love for the gay community goes.
Have you done an interview with gay press before?
Oh yes, many times. (Laughs) That's my core audience. These are the people that broke me in a lot of clubs. My gay following has always been cutting edge in music and discovered my stuff before it ever became big on radio. The very first remix we did of "Dr. Beat" was done by a guy named Pablos Flores who became huge in the dance market after that, but he used to spin at a gay club in Puerto Rico and we found out he was a big fan. So they've always been a big part of my career.
Ever got down and done the conga in a gay club?
Not the "Conga," because in that gay club we were unknown at that time, but I did a lot of dancing there in Puerto Rico. Unfortunately, for me, I haven't been able to go to any clubs, period - gay or straight - because I've been working since I was 17 in a band, so usually I was the one performing when everyone else was having a good time. But I would love that - they're the most fun clubs, I'm sure.
Who does a better conga - gay or straight men?
(Laughs) Are you kidding me? You're actually asking that question? I mean, who dances better, period?!
When you look back at your career - the hair, the fashion, all of that - why do you think you make such a great drag queen?
I don't know, but I got to tell you: I love it! Every time I see them, I say, "They do me much better than I do," because I'm the reluctant diva. I didn't like being the center of attention, but I had different looks that they were able to reenact - the one in the chaps and the "Mi Tierra" dress - and "Everlasting Love" celebrated all those different looks. I just feel fortunate that somebody would want to do me. (Laughs)
It's been eight years since your last English-language studio album, "Unwrapped." Why did you decide to step back from music and showbiz, and what prompted your return?
Well, stepping back was easy - I had (my daughter) Emily and I know how quickly time goes by. That's why my last English album was in 2003 - then in 2007 we did "90 Millas" - and I purposefully only went out promoting in the summer when she was available to go with me, because she really loves school. My son wasn't too fond of it, so I dragged him all over the world and he didn't care. (Laughs)
I don't like to just go into the studio to just go into the studio. I really want to have a musical idea, some creative spark that makes me excited about doing what I'm doing. Pharrell called me - he had written a song for me called "Miss Little Havana" - and he wanted to delve into that Hispanic world and even go further than he already has. It was really a very interesting idea. We clicked so well in the studio that I think this album is a real example of how much we clicked - creatively and on many levels.
After we had done the nine tracks with Pharrell, we took it to the club in the last four tracks with different remixers and producers that are on the cutting edge of the clubland side. I wanted to give fans not just the nine concept-y tracks that we did with Pharrell - although they didn't start that way, there was a storyline I discovered after we finished the songs - and really take it to hardcore dance.
Zumba fanatics will love it.
(Laughs) While we were doing "Wepa," Pharrell said, "You have to take it to all those Zumba clubs!" It's so fast. It's like a nuclear merengue with the urban sensibility from Pharrell and the drunk guy on trombone in the street festival, so we kept thinking, "They're going to sweat to this one!"
You said your 2004 world tour would be your last. Have you changed your mind? Are you going to pull a Cher on us?
I don't have a tour planned. What I've been doing is just going to places worldwide, little by little. And I'll always do something. I never ever said that I was retiring. I said I was just going to stop doing those world tours and that was going to be the last one, and it did end up being that. You never say never, but I really don't foresee doing that kind of thing again. I will do different, interesting and unique stuff, but it's like boot camp for me. It's hard on me.
Your song "Always Tomorrow" was a lifeline for so many people, especially your gay fans - including myself. How does it feel knowing that?
I love that. That's one of my favorite songs I've ever written, so that makes me happy. You know, that was the idea. When I wrote that tune it was like a message of hope. I wanted to celebrate the hero in each of us and the fact that we can survive and be stronger. I've had fans tell me they were going to do themselves in and this song came on the radio and they felt better; they actually got through some really tough moments, so that to me is the best reason to do what I do - that I can somehow get into people's brains and hearts that I may never meet, and get them through.
That's what music was for me. I had a really tough time growing up and other people's music got me through those moments, so it means a lot to me that that was good for you, as well.
It's a song that so many gay kids who are bullied into suicide should've heard before they took their own life.
I know. I did a message for the It Gets Better campaign and I talked about that - that when I was 15 I felt so overwhelmed and everything was so heavy on me that, believe me, I thought about it. Kids think that problems are going to last forever and they need to realize that life changes in a second. I can understand where they get overwhelmed, but we have a short enough time as it is on this earth without having to end it early.
Considering how Target has supported anti-gay candidates and indirectly anti-gay causes, there's been much controversy in the gay community surrounding your partnership with them for the release of "Miss Little Havana." What do you have to say to gay fans who might question your support for them?
To my gay fans, I would say this: Always go with your heart and do what you need to do, because I think that every human being needs to stand on principle. But I've got to tell you: I would never work with someone who is anti-gay.
I know that they donated to a third party who then donated to this candidate and - I did my homework - since then they donated $150,000 to that candidate. They apologized profusely for having done so, and they have established an actual committee that oversees all political donations to make sure that this doesn't happen again. They've also donated a half-million dollars to LGBT organizations. They're part of the National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce. They give domestic partner benefits. They have 300,000 employees that are from all walks of life, and it's very important for them to be supportive. They've extended family medical leave benefits and adoption benefits to their gay employees. They've really supported very much their gay peeps.
Believe me, in my own life I've gone through a lot of these things. When I had Obama at my house, I got nailed by the Cuban community - even though I'm not affiliated politically. Sometimes the information you want to get out there doesn't, because the first thing that blows up is what people hear.
So I will always respect what (my gay fans) want to do, but I have a long history with Target. I've put out my children's book, we've done programs for the troops - they really have been very supportive, so I would say: Do some more research, check out what Target has done to make up for its gaffe - and they know it was a gaffe. It was lack of information, not knowing everything about everybody that your money goes to. I was actually very surprised when that whole Target thing happened, but I know how these things happen. I've been on other side of that. So give them another shot and if not, I respect very much whatever they may want to do or need to do to stand up for whatever principles they're upholding.
I just want them to know that I'm so supportive of the LGBT community. They've been a big part of my success and they've always been there for me. I would not want to do anything that hurts them.
Your birthplace of Cuba has evolved a lot in the way it treats gay people. In the '70s, many LGBT people were imprisoned simply for being gay. What do you remember it being like for gay people?
Well, I was a baby. I came over here when I was 18 months old, so I really have no real memories of Cuba. But I always stay on top of the news from Cuba and I know that Raul Castro's daughter is gay and she's trying to do a lot for that community, but Cuba in general - just that macho mentality - was tough even though it was one of the wildest places in the world. They've come a long way, but they did horrendous things when the AIDS epidemic came out. And since nobody has rights in Cuba, imagine the gays in Cuba - just regular schmoes have no rights and can be jailed at a moment's notice, so they were very, very rough.
Is it harder for a Latino artist, Ricky Martin for instance, to be gay and out?
I think it's harder for anyone, to be honest. Even though fortunately we are definitely moving forward - you see all these states where it's becoming legal to marry your same-sex partner, as it should be everywhere - and we're heading in the right direction. But you have to realize that even the Equal Rights Amendment only happened in 1972 (Editor's note: It was never ratified), so we're still trying to grow rights for everyone. I think it's still tough because there's still judgmental people, there's still racism, there's still homophobia. It's a human condition. So as we become more and more educated and people become more open, it's going to go in a positive direction.
So you're a gay marriage supporter?
Of course I am. I think everyone should be able to marry who they love, and it just should be.
Do you think you would've had that mentality years ago, considering you grew up in a very Catholic-conservative home?
I did, and I don't know if my mom - I think nowadays she would, because my mom has grown a lot, but my mom was also raised in a very restrictive atmosphere in Cuba. She has a lot of hardcore ideas. I've never talked to her about this, but she's very supportive of all her gay friends, and sometimes I go into her house and I tell her it's like "La Cage Aux Folles" - all her best friends are gay guys! (Laughs) They're over there always taking care of her and being really sweet with her.
We're very nurturing.
Hey, listen, the best son a mom could have is a gay son. They're not going to leave you high and dry, and they always watch their mothers and take care of them very much.
Does that mean you're going to have more kids until you get a gay one?
Me?! I can't! Are you kidding me? I would love a grandkid. Listen, the president of my corporation is gay and I see how he is with his mom, and I have a lot of friends that are just fantastic sons.
Very nice to speak with you, Gloria.
Thank you so much. A pleasure as well. Tell all my gay fans I love them.
I was just listening to the new CD the other day. It really is very, very good. Shame that a.) she's too old for pop radio to play and b.) that she's now on a shitty small label. But a big label might have her do yet another covers album so. . .sometimes a small label and small sales are better.
Not a big fan of her music, but I've always kind of liked and/or respected her. She seems to work hard and appears to be a reasonably down to earth person.
Respected that she kept it going for many years with a nasty back injury…and didn't become loopy on painkillers (like Paula Abdul).
What r6 said -- she's a hard working pro, and puts on a good show for her fans, who seem to love her...
LOVE her and very gay friendly!
How could anyone not love this song. She looks fab.
She did a nice job on the GLEE finale: a bright spot in a very uneven episode.
[quote]They give domestic partner benefits.
I love Gloria but this is bullshit. Target does not GIVE domestic partner benefits. They allow their lowly paid employees to PURCHASE health insurance for their domestic partners. The vast majority of them cannot afford to take advantage of this "benefit" since they barely make minimum wage. Most of their employees make little more than WalMart employees.
Her daughter is playing the drums in the video.
She was at Don Rickles house and the mop broke.
Yes, she marries them R8!
Mi Tierra and Noventa Milles blew me away they are so good.
Gloria is AWESOME. She is a nice woman with talent and has aged gracefully. I loved her last album and thought a few of her songs should have been played on mainstream radio. MUCH better than anything Vadge has put out in the last 10 years.
Her dad worked for Cuban dictator Bautista who made Castro seem nice in comparison. A sweet woman but a delusion anti-Castro fembot just the same.
I love Gloria. Fuck Vadge and JHo. Gloria rules.
She's still around????? Last song I heard was back in the early 90s!!!!!
She can't sing. A range of three notes, nasal timbre, no projection and an incapacity of enunciating or vocalizing with intelligence.
I know that in the Cubano/Hispanic world of music, such things don't count for much, but they do to me.
That's the only thing I have against her.
I agree - she's a terrible singer. Her voice is very irritating and has no range.
The cover of her new album is ridiculously photoshopped. She's easily been twice the size in all the promo appearances she's made to promote it. Same thing with cover of the new Cher album. Their fans obviously adore these women, so why the blatant, desperate attepts to look "youthful"?
Love Glo but her voice is not cut out for these standards. She sounds stiff as a board.
Gloria should do a CD of Miami bass music.
Hadn't heard of her in years.
Gloria Estefan is a dumb cunt and has no talent whatsoever. Not sure about her son being gay but her daughter is an uglier version of her who is without down a deluded lesbian who thinks she can sing. As for emilion Estefan; gormless ain't the word. Gross people with zero talent.
Gloria is a fat bitch who photoshops all her album covers. She has liver spots and crows feet and that awful gap in her yellow teeth. Emilion has worn shades ever since they started, so a person that hides their eyes clearly hides more. He's a thief and a bully and I bet all the stories about him stealing songs, shows etc are true! Bloodsucking ugly gross parasites that feed off other people's true talent. I hope they go bust and or lose everything. Either way karma will get them in the end.
¡Dios mío! Ai yi yi! 🙆
I was gonna add my name to thread "Singers Who Fucked for Tracks" but then I remember that no one asked.
Her version of "It's Too Late" was one of the best songs on a Carole King cover album.
It seems here is the only place you can post stuff about the Estefan clan. The minute you say anything which doesn't make them look good the thread is either closed or removed.
Emily Estefan sings terrible. Bad voice and awful.
I've never heard a good thing about Emilio Estefan, either. But wow. You really spell it out R59! The was a Rolling Stone article about Gloria in the early 90s that was pretty favorable to her, but not to her husband. Former members of MSM had nothing nice say and him, at all. I remember one of them saying that all he's good for in the studio is ordering a good sandwich in. Another said that Emilio Estefan deserved none of the producer credits he took.
Hi number 65, I'm sorry for being so over the top. Didn't mean to offend but I cannot stand Gloria Estefan and her family that she has been going on and on and on about for years. She only has three topics of conversation which is her family, her bus crash and her businesses. I have found SOOOOOOO many forums where I start to write about them and reveal their true colours but within days I am banned from the site. For instance once site suggested Emily Estefan was gay, I always thought this and the more I asked and commented on it the sooner I was banned. Revealing stuff about what an arrogant bitch Gloria was also resulted in a ban. I was saying that there was never any bad press on them as it got removed sooner or later but I do remember reading about Gloria on a flight and being asked to turn off her mobile for landing and she caused a massive scene ending saying she was never going to use that airline again! I mean how ignorant. She was putting people's lives at risk! Try to find that article now and it's nowehere to be seen. The woman who fell in bongos and sued? Nothing. The guy the estefans hit with their boat and he died, again nothing. They get away with everything and act like they're some kind of royalty. Emilio estefans niece lili is a talentless cretin who looks like a scabby horse but of course she's successful cos she's reated to them. More lately the gross manly daughter Emily is ahem singing(?!) on every local and to show going and she is vile! She looks disgusting and she can't sing. Saw something called 'where the boys at' and it made me feel sick. People do ask why I am so bitter and sometimes even if I know them lol which I don't but I just hate any kind of injustice and the world thinking Gloria Estefan and her drippy family are one thing when that image couldn't be further than the truth really gets my goat. For gods sake, your stupid bus accident happened a quarter of a damn century ago!! Change the record and give us a break with that already! She goes on about her children all the time and like I said, Emily has gone to 'music school' and the son is just a useless talentless bum with no education and lives like a parasite of his folks. So annoying when they go on about him having a film production family. Garbage! They bought the house across the road for him. The Estefans leave a lot to be desired and no doubt their minions will read this post and I will be banned and/or it will be removed. That's all foks. Think they're truly gross.
Will she be our Ambasadress to Cuba? Or will she settle for a bus-and-truck tour of "Call Me Madam?"
Every forum I have been on speculating and basically enquiring further, after many people suggested on these sites, that Emily estefan is a lesbian, and if I made any comments which made gloria or her husband etc come across negatively, low and behold, suddenly I was banned! I ensured not to use bad language or profanities for the very reason of not wanting to be banned but in the end I was!...and I still am.
Some of my comments said simple things like there's never any bad press on them. Well I rest my case. The estefan minions must scour the net for hours looking for stuff and then making sure it gets removed. Ridiculous. Incidentally if anyone does any bad press on them I'd like to know as I am intrigued. I don't want to know about some woman slipping in bongos or that fool Emilio ripping some guy or other off with a song or game show or even them hitting that young diver with their boat and him subsequently dying. All the things I read from years ago like what a classless idiot gloria was on a flight when she was asked to turn her mobile off for landing and she screamed caused a scene and shouted at the stewardess because she "had some important calls to make" and then pompously said she was never using that airline again. I bet there was a big sigh of relief! All that stuff has just disappeared! The estefans are are fake bad joke. Awful people who will tread on anyone and anything to get their way and more money yet they portray and image that could not be further from the truth. Miami royalty? Er no!!