The thing that led to the Holocaust, among other atrocities.
Is there anything to it?
What do you think OP. What are you, a neo-Nazi?
Wall Street is pure Evil.
Shut the fuck up, Charlie.
I'm not a neo-Nazi. I would like to know and understand the root and cause of all the various persecutions of the Jews over the years and I'm wondering whether the urban legends are based in fact.
So sit down and shut the fuck up if you can't contribute to a conversation without name calling.
I never did understand the hatred, like gays and other minorities, generalizations are formed and ignorance flourishes.
Well, you know they got them seven Jew bankers that control the world, don'tcha?
What r4 said, but I do have questions about the US and its fucked up relationships with the oil countries and its fucked up policies with Isreal. Dangerous games that are not benefiting Americans.
It laid the foundations, built the building and fertilized the land around it. That's why The Holocaust was possible because the minds were so poisoned already.
Actually, R5, most banks involved in the 2008 financial collapse are run by Jews. The firm Goldman Sachs couldn't possibly sound more Jewy.
In 3000 years no one has liked living with them. So much so that the rest of us had to intervene and give them their own damn country.
R3, read history. Hitler and his party made up the "Jewish Conspiracy" theory as part of his/their justification to wipe them out. This is historial record and laid out very nicely in Mein Kempf (sp?). It is of course complete bullshit. Hitler elorated to include Bolshevics in the conspiracy- they stabbed "pure" Germans in the back within Germany during WW 1 thus leading to German defeat and of course as embodied by the Soviety Union were the mortal enemies of the superior German race. This was why Hitler broke his treaty with the Soviets and invaded them in the most brutal invasion of a country in world history. This was where the mass murder of jews started, by guns over pits, until they decided gasing was more efficient and easier on the killers who had to be distributed vodka to carry out the killings. There never was anything remotely organized in the Jewish banking or trade world in Europe or the United States toward some common goal.
So yeah, you are either very poorly educated, or you are anti semetic. In fact, I cannot believe you even would consider something so ridiculous. It is either extremely naive and mostly very offensive.
You might as well ask, was the Dred Scott decision of the Supreme Court in the 1850s based on facts?
Your post, I am sorry, is one the most idiotic I have come across on DL in a long time.
And add R8 to the bigotted core of this thread that should be deleted.
Jews control the finance sector
[quote]Hitler elorated to include Bolshevics in the conspiracy- they stabbed "pure" Germans in the back within Germany during WW 1 thus leading to German defeat and of course as embodied by the Soviety Union were the mortal enemies of the superior German race. This was why Hitler broke his treaty with the Soviets and invaded them in the most brutal invasion of a country in world history.
Hitler invaded the Soviet Union because his ideology was tied to the premise that, in order for Germany to exist and develop into a world power that could challenge the coming supremacy of the United States, it had to expand. And it if it was to expand, it would have to expand to the East.
That is why Hitler broke the Molotov-Ribbentrop accord. Because he never intended to keep it in the first place.
Your interpretation of history, as with most everything you post on this board, is an oversimplification. You seem to know very little about anything that you profess to know.
The stab-in-the-back legend was a very big part of the events that led to Hitler's rise, it is true. But it is also true that Hitler was able to very easily conflate Bolshevism with the Jewish faith. To the extent that much of what we call the Holocaust today was obscured by the argument that what the Germans were doing was killing 'partisans' rather than Jews. (See the Commissar Order.)
Part of my question is WHY? Why was it so easy for the Nazis to make that connection?
In any event, I know that you would like to tie this question to the Holocaust, but the persecution of the Jews started long before that and has played itself out over many centuries, and in many locations. What about those other atrocities? Why are the Jewish people the most persecuted in history?
Despite your best efforts to steer this topic toward what you THINK you know, Charlie, my questions is broader than what your NARROW mind can comprehend.
Don't tell me to read history, bitch. I know history far better than you could ever hope to. But this is one part of history that I do not understand, hence the question.
F & F! Ban this troll OP please!
Seriously, what next?
"Blacks are said to be intellectually inferior to whites...is there anything to it?"
"Women are said to be overly emotional and suited only for raising children and keeping house...anything to it?"
"Gay men are said to be weak, diseased and prone to child-molesting...any truth to that?"
Seriously, ban this asshole STAT.
May I suggest a walk down 67th street between Madison and Lexington. You will soon understand.
Yup I've read the Kershow (sp) volumes on Adolf Hitler and much much more.
So you do know. He had no intention of going after the United State or even Britain. He tried to make peace with Britain before attacking the Soviets after he lost the air war over Britain. Aside from the Bolshevic Jewish conspiracy he want "living space" for Germany and planned to essentially enslave Eastern Europe to serve the great German "race" and Third Reich. To that end there was massive removal of jews and slavs from their home to be repopulated by Germans, etc etc. But they you know all this.
I guess you decided to drum up little antisemitism on DL for fun looks like. Classy fellow you are- what a broadly based and intelligent quesion you asked in you OP- NOT.
Fucking enough already. It's been a while since I've spotted "I just have an innocent question about Jews" gambit. And it's just as pathetic now as it ever was. Go the fuck away, you fucking troll.
R7 seems to know.
or is it Chernow who wrote those two volumes? OP?
OP, go to Wikkipedia or just Google "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". This fake book was a statement of the goals of the Jews of the world to retake Zion and from there the world. It was the justification for most anti Jewish activity in the 19th Century and beginning of the 20th.
My bad, published in 1903
[quote]He had no intention of going after the United State or even Britain.
He did intend to go after the United States, at least in the hegemonic sense. Hitler's plans for Europe were centered on the need for Germany to be prepared for a coming conflict with the United States.
The Soviet Union was to provide the natural resources required for that conflict.
If everything had gone according to plan, it would have been Germany vs. the Soviet Union, and then Germany vs. the United States.
France would have been subjugated eventually, but the war with Great Britain was never wanted nor intended. But Britain balked, and to hedge his bets, Hitler had to make pre-emptive peace with Stalin in order to neutralize any possible blockade of Germany.
Nothing about WWII went the way that Hitler intended, despite his early successes.
Now setting aside that topic (because you don't know more about it than I do, dear, trust me), on to the meat of my question.
Could this all be related to crucifixation of Jesus alone?
Douchebag @ R19: I believe you're referring to Kershaw's two-volume biography of Hitler. Which was excellent.
But as far as general historiography is concerned, William Shirer's survey of the Third Reich, though broader in scope, is better.
[quote]This fake book was a statement of the goals of the Jews of the world to retake Zion and from there the world.
Thanks for your good faith contribution, R20. I'm familiar with the fraudulent and so-called Protocols. What I'm trying to understand, for example, is *why* they were written.
Why the Jews?
It can't only be religion, though I do think that is what set the stage, as R7 argues. Over time, the discrimination has come to take on an overtly racial tone, rather than religious.
OK, OP. I will refrain from calling you a fool and a micro-cephalic, because that's obvious.
If the Jews were plotting to take over the world, it would have happened by now. Looks like all they have is a strip of land on the Mediterranean ...
Boy, R14's post is a real Rorshasch test if ever one existed, isn't it?
If you trolldar this thread, you'll find one person doing a lot of stupid talking.
For once I totally agree with Charlie -- this is not a real thread, it's a jew-baiting thread.
R15, I am not a New Yorker. What can be found in that location?
don't be an asshole R225, Microcephaly is a disease that nobody earns or deserves.
Ignorance and bigotry as demonstrated by the OP's "innocent question" is hard earned.
Do you think it is easy to go through life harboring resentments and grudges and then "subconsciously" finding a group to attach them to?
Really? Again? Are we going to have blatant Jew porn every fucking day?
IGNORE THIS FUCKER
Go somewhere that people get off on this crap. There are plenty of places for you on the web.
R28, lots of ugly women with big noses and black wirey hair and the smell of eggs. It's like being in Tel Aviv.
Germany wasn't the center of antisemitism, I just think fascism needed an enemy more than most political structures:
In the United States, Henry Ford sponsored the printing of 500,000 copies, and, from 1920 to 1922, published a series of antisemitic articles titled "The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem", in The Dearborn Independent, a newspaper he owned. In 1921, Ford cited evidence of a Jewish threat: "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are 16 years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time." In 1927, however, the courts[who?] ordered Ford to retract his publication and apologize; he complied, claiming his assistants had duped him. He remained an admirer of Nazi Germany, however.
R23- OP- and provocateur of anti-semitism, no matter how much you know- and I have read both authors.
My last post- something is wrong with you. You obviously know the answer to your rhetorically antisemetic question.
The entirety of the Pentateuch is about God setting Israel aside as his chosen nation. This created a feeling of separation if not superiority as the Chosen People. A cursory glance at the list of genocidal massacres of any non Hebrew ethnic group that got in the way after Moses led the Jews from Egypt suggests at least the religious leaders felt that was true.
That is just to say that any group that plays the us vs. them game can take it to a level of atrocity (add God's voice into that and well, yeah).
For this reason, the Jews in exile, wherever they were could not and would not assimilate. So now you have a minority group that self identifies as alien, actually as God's Chosen, and an easy target as "other".
What is the Pentateuch? And who cares?
As for pinning this on Jews, you need only look to the masterpiece 'cake cutting scene' in Godfather 2. All the different 'tribes' get their piece - Italian mob, Jewish mob, etc. Taking the metaphor globally, you have Yakuza, Colombians, etc, truly sick, exploitive powers the world over. All of the major religions are highjacked. All of them. The people at the bottom - yes that means you - have more to gain by uniting and overlooking PREVIOUS differences.
I wasn't pinning it on the Jews. Nonetheless, they were a minority that would not assimilate and became an easy target FOR EVIL MEN, and if you don't think the Jews believe they are God's chosen, you haven't read the Old Testament.
R7 and R35 have it.
What about the theory that 90% of the world's Jews today are not descended from the biblical Jews?
As opposed to Sephardic Jews, the 10% of the world's Jews who are from the Middle East and who look like Arabs.supposedly the Ashkenazi, or Russian/German Jews are all converts from an ancient western Asian nation called Khazaria, which was pagan in biblical times, but which adopted Judaism as its state religion some time around 800 A.D.
So, the theory goes, these people aren't the "Chosen Ones" after all and have no blood connection to the Jews of the Old Testament but only an adopted spiritual one.
True of Bullshit?
[quote]What about the theory that 90% of the world's Jews today are not descended from the biblical Jews?
Fuck off, you fucking troll.
R40, that is not an answer. Most of the Jews in the world today don't exactly resemble Middle Easterners, do they?
Fuck off, you fucking troll.
The Pentateuch is the first five books of the Hebrew (and Christian) Bible.
One of the big lies so far in this thread is that the Jews never got along with anyone in history. This is blatantly untrue. The Jews lived under Persian domination without serious incident. They lived in the Hellenistic world as long as their Temple worship was left alone. Before the Crusades and the rise of Europe, the Jews lived within Islam, many happily gathering in Muslim Spain.
The problem was Christianity. When the earliest Christians began to be separated from Judaism, particularly once they were excluded from the synagogues, Christian turned on their brothers. The purported betrayer of their God has a name that literally means Jew! So Christians blamed the Jews for the death of their God. Additionally, during the Middle Ages Christians were forbidden from lending at interest, so they turned to Jews for loans. No one likes their bankers. So magnify hatred based on the Christian origin story (where the Jews rejected the Christian god and the Christian message) by the fact that Jews were the only people who could make loans and you get anti-Semitic crap like "an international Jewish banking conspiracy."
If there's any "Jewish conspiracy", it was created and is perpetuated by rich white Europeans to protect themselves from scrutiny.
It has a lot to do with their involvement in the collapse of the Roman Empire.
The rise of Christianity is essentially the rise of Judaism and it's influence in Western European culture.
I think you mean the rise of the Edomites, R45. Real Jews (I call them 'spirit' Jews) have been ostracized since the rise of the Roman empire. "Jesus" was the Romans' capitalizing in to de facto marginalizing/persecuting Jews, what with the church and all.
No, there isn't.
Israel has undue influence over American politics and foreign policy.
"It has a lot to do with their involvement in the collapse of the Roman Empire.
The rise of Christianity is essentially the rise of Judaism and it's influence in Western European culture."
Huh? The Roman Empire, for hundreds of years prior to its collapse, in both the East and the West, was Christian. The collapse of the Roman Empire was due to invasions by European and Eurasian tribes that were neither Christian nor Jewish. Once the majority of Western Europe was Christianized, its religious central power was the Roman papacy, and a huge part of its political power, mostly in German and Italian territories was concentrated for many centuries in a confederation called The Holy Roman Empire.
I have a lamp shade with a tattoo. Each time I turn on the lamp my home smeels like an old man.
There is definitely a Netanyahu conspiracy. He made a deal with a splinter party to avoid an election where he would be thrown out.
Ask the Muslim community. Their the big pushers of the "Jewish world conspiracy" today.
[quote]There is definitely a Netanyahu conspiracy. He made a deal with a splinter party to avoid an election where he would be thrown out.
The correct answer to your question, OP, is: NO.
Nonsense. If there were a Jewish conspiracy for world domination they would infiltrate the nation with the most powerful military on earth and subvert it from within.
I HAVE A THREAD SUGGESTION BUT NO MONEY>
Why not start a F.A.R.T. thread? Every time one of these FARTS starts one of these"tarbaby" energy-sucking disingenuous proposition threads, instead of responding to the baiting (pretty bald as a rule) over and over, just go the the FART thread and relieve yourself: name the thread, whatever.
Grow up, R57. As you can see, the only people engaged in trolling and non-thoughtfulness on this thread are the idiots who think that some nefarious purpose underlies the original post.
The OP's posts have been, to a letter, reasoned and thoughtful.
[quote]One of the big lies so far in this thread is that the Jews never got along with anyone in history. This is blatantly untrue. The Jews lived under Persian domination without serious incident. They lived in the Hellenistic world as long as their Temple worship was left alone.
Diaspora Jews had it rough in Hellenistic Alexandria. More importantly, you leave out the Romans. Not that the Jews didn't have a right to rebel against them. But that really is the relevant context for Christian anti-semitism. Read Rome and Jerusalem by Martin Goodman.
Not making apologies for Christians (I'm atheist), just being realistic.
Well, with Netanyahu's deciding there doesn't have to be an election this year, as of yesterday's headlines, Israel can no longer pretend to be a 'pretend democracy' anymore. But then neither can we.
I think the Jews are despised because they were and still are God's chosen people. It's a spiritual battle, Satan despises them and wants to destroy them.
Parliamentary democracies can schedule elections any time before a certain deadline. A lot worse for Israel's democratic credentials is the way it treats Arabs as second class citizens.
If there even were such a thing as god or satan, r61, that is still preposterous.
Fuck off, you fucking trolls.
R58, you are not Jewish, for sure. Otherwise you would find the OP's proposition horrific.
You a FART? S'pose so. Otherwise wouldn't infantilize me. And you would debate the sense of my proposal instead of attacking me and diverting attention from it.
You Rovians are so special.
I expect another personal attack instead of a discussion of the new thread idea.
I'm ready, R58. Oh, and fuck you and all your lying, dissimulating cohorts.
pardon me, I meant SSpecial, Heinrich.
r24 The Tzar's secret police wrote the Protocols. Do you have any idea how most Russians lived for hundreds of years under those tyrants??? IMO it was very much like slavery in America. In the 19th century it simmered for a long time (as it did in all of Europe). The Tzar needed something to deflect attention and rage and what better than the eternal enemy, the Jew? It was believable because the Church fed that hate for 2000 years.
Shut down this fucking offensive thread.
I hate this shit.
F&F this shit. NOW.
Why wasn't this thread closed immediately?
Maybe because there is nothing offensive about this thread, except in your mind?
r53, stop being such an isamaphobe!
r51 is an evil hater!
Is "Jewish world" part of EPCOT or the Magic Kingdom?
[quote][R53], stop being such an isamaphobe!
For what? For telling the truth?
Religion: The ongoing battle over who the Sky Pixies like the best.
It is like a childrens morning TV show with real violence.
Most antisemitism is not about religion; its about ethnicity.
R58, the OPs post are a combination of accurate history juxaposed with unhinged language. He's nuts, and he's been absent from this loathsome thread for a while.
WHY DOES THIS THREAD STILL EXIST?
It's easy to demonize "The Other." That's really all you need to know.
Just ... LOL.
You really are a sad, pathetic creature. The only one who has appeared unhinged on this thread is you.
R58 is a fucking troll who should fuck off now.
R58, R81... then you cannot read. Suggest you go back and read his posts. Show them to a psychiatrist better yet.
The Arab theory that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Khazars has so far not really panned out. It's not really disproved, but there is no DNA so far which would confirm it.
It is likely that the Khazars converted back to Islam in later centuries. It is unlikely that they migrated to Europe and then were slowly corraled into "The Pale."
On the other hand, the historical stories don't give a good account of how the Pale got to be the primary place of Jewish residence.
Hey, Rovian R58 Heinrich?
Notice you ignored my post. Hope everybody rereads it.
What about me? You never discussed my proposal, FART.
But I noticed you never abused me either. Must've been spot on, my post.
Let me have some scorn, some LOL, like Charlie, who you bullied. Manifest your lovely self, Heinrich. Aren't I the most unhinged on the thread? Your model of serene rationality and good judgment is what we are all waiting to hear. Expound. Keep this thread alive! I love all the indignant responses almost as much as you do. Tell us some of your personal experiences.
If this tread bothers you R79, switch to another one.
With no genuine evidence to prove it, I guess the answer to OP's evidence is no, there isn't anything to the "so-called jewish world conspiracy". It's a fiction deployed precisely to drum up hatred against a religious/ethnic minority.
They have a holiday every single month.
Who runs the Wall Street banks? because Wall Street is the nastiest.
Two Jew-centric threads on the first page of Datalounge? Not a good sign.
R79 it exists because it is interesting.
It has a mix of information and hyperbole which is pretty much like every thread on datalounge.
Political correctness is used to deflect the sad reality.
Look at all the bigotry that goes on daily, because people quote the fictional story book known as the bible, as truth, with the legal support of a perverted US Constitution.
First time on this site and I just had to laugh. Attempts to hide the truth by "OMG MODERATOR DELETE THIS THREAD PLZ" instead of providing solid arguments. Typical Jewish behavior, appealing to emotion rather than rationality.
The facts cannot be refuted. Many of the most prominent creators of socially damaging ideologies have been Jews. Karl Marx, Ayn Rand, Sigmund Freud, Edward Bernays. International financiers such as Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, and Dominique Strauss-Kahn, and those are just the most famous names. Almost ALL of the American mass media:
CBS, Viacom, MTV, Nickalodeon, Spike, Paramount is Sumner Redstone aka Rothstein.
NBC, Comcast is David L. Cohen and Julian Brodsky.
ABC, Disney, Marvel, EPSN is Bob Iger and Michael Eisner.
All Jews. How can you, in this day and age, deny their influence? I'm not saying it's necessarily a "conspiracy," it could be that Jews are just good with money, well educated, and extremely nepotistic. HOWEVER, there is a problem when American Jews are working together to support another country that is not ours (Israel) by sending them our money and our soldiers. Notice how Jews themselves seldom join the forces to fight for America? And there is a big problem when Jews use their power and influence to turn brother against brother, in this case, Christians against Muslims, to fuel the economy which only THEY benefit from.
I am an atheist, but I encourage all Goyim (that's what the Jews call us non-Jews: cattle) to read the bible and decipher for yourselves what is really going on with their religion and how it is incompatible with freedom and the sanctity of life.
But you could make a bigger list for Episcopalians R95. New York has a high percentage of Jews, so there are a high percent in New York based professions. It doesn't mean Wall Street is "controlled" by Jews; indeed, until very recent times, Jewish firms and non-Jewish firms kept apart and many assimilated Jews converted to Episcopalianism (Belmont, Kuhn, Loeb, etc). They do seem to dominate the movie biz, and with a high level of education are disproportionately represented in many professions. But "controlling" is not the same thing as being well represented in.
[quote]Attempts to hide the truth by "OMG MODERATOR DELETE THIS THREAD PLZ" instead of providing solid arguments.
There are no solid arguments that support a "Jewish conspiracy".
[quote]Typical Jewish behavior,
That says it all right there.
Let's see. Why are there a lot of Jews in banking. Maybe for centuries, that was one of the few areas Jews could make money. Depending on the place, they were barred from owning land, joining guilds (thus, could not have a trade) etc. Since it was forbidden for "Christians" to lend money at interest, the Jews were able to carve out a niche.
Entertainment? The Jews created the movie industry. Most of the early pioneers that created the studios were Jews from NY, either immigrants or the children of immigrants. Did they know anything making movies? No, but they saw a market in the nickelodeons and saw a way to redefine and expand it. This naturally evolved into interest in television.
So take your anti-Jewish bullshit elsewhere.
This thread still alive?
OP is a provocateur-
He might as well have written: Is there any truth to the recruitment of children into the homosexual lifestyle, after all, this point of view has been around a long time, indeed it is practically policy of the Republican party"
The OP tries to equivocate with his knowledge of history- when that knowledge should tell him categorically the answer to his ridiculous question, much less start a serious discussion of history on DL.
Wall Street is pure evil, no question.
This is a horrible, hateful thread. The last paragraph in particular in this article will set you straight:
R95, Many American Jews proudly serve in the armed forces. Look at the facts of how many have died for this country. Also plenty of American Jews support Obama and Hillary Clinton, and a peaceful solution for the Middle East that would benefit everyone. You show your ignorance when you generalize.
OK, I have a question and I don't think "the Jews", whichever Jews OP is talking about, are any more involved in some sort of "world conspiracy" whatever that is supposed to mean; the question is this--For all the money and aid the United States sends to Israel (the "Jewish State" by their own definition) what does Israel do or give in return? I mean, do they send oranges (we grow plenty of those for ourselves)? Do they send troops to help the Americans with their bird-brained military escapades in Afghanistan or even Iraq? Perhaps some of the more reasonable and less hysterical (and I see plenty of that on this thread)people can tell me as I honestly don't know what Israel does or gives in return for all it gets from the US. And please don't tell me it spies for the US because the CIA can do that on its own, they don't need lessons from Israeli intelligence. I'm beginning to think that the way Israel can pay the US back is to offer all expense paid tours of Israel to any US citizen who wants one. I sincerely hope someone can give me a coherent answer to this question.
Considering that Jews are only 1.5% of the American population, they do have an awful lot of influence.
Joseph Sisco, a former Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern and South Asian affairs, once told Israeli author Shmuel Katz, "I want to assure you, Mr. Katz, that if we were not getting full value for our money, you would not get a cent from us."
I know many jewish people and let me tell you they don't support gay folk. Never have never will.
What r14 said.
How [italic]the hell[/italic] is this thread still here after months?
[quote]I know many jewish people and let me tell you they don't support gay folk. Never have never will.
You don't know shit, unless you know a bunch of Hasidim. For the most part, Jews are very liberal when it comes to gay issues. Much more so than Christians, that's for damn sure.
Sorry but Jews do not support gays. Some say they do. I know Christians that do too. I just don't believe either of them. It's against their doctrine. I don't get why people want to give religions a pass when they clearly don't believe in homsexulality. I think all religions should be held accountable. Not just Christians. That's just PC bullshit. All of them piss me off. I don't do the PC thing. I don't know why anyone would.
There are Gay Reformed Jewish Rabbis. Both the Reformed and Reconstructionist Branches of Judiasm are very open and liberal. There is as much variation of opinions within Judiasm as there is in Christianity; only fools generalize.
[quote]Do they send troops to help the Americans with their bird-brained military escapades in Afghanistan or even Iraq?
If the IDF showed up to fight any Muslim-majority country, Arab or not, terrorists and/or regular troops from other Muslim countries would soon join in the festivities.
[quote]And please don't tell me it spies for the US because the CIA can do that on its own, they don't need lessons from Israeli intelligence
Guess again. The CIA had trouble gathering intelligence in the U.S.S.R., particularly getting someone inside the Kremlin's higher offices. The FBI under Hoover had greater success than did the CIA. Israel had so many Russian-speaking immigrants from the Soviet bloc that it was able to gather intelligence that it forwarded to the U.S.
the Jewish come from the Hebrew, the people who destryed all cities in their way in the name of God. Many jews are not jews at all, I know some born catholic brazilian but have become jewish. 90% of tv actors are jewish, no space for other ethnic groups. Holocaust in Nazist German was something horrible and its effects on jewish community. But people never produce a movie about the 60 million indian slaughtered in Americas.
also, Jews are owners of banks and financial isntitutions - and they really fucking exploit poor people with their high interest rate.
they dont want peace in Palestine, they wont keep killing people, God told them so.
Give it a fucking rest.
Our US history classes are very poor in this type of education.
I learned Nazis were bad, Jews were good, the US saved everyone.
Because of our simplistic education questions like this exist and rather than get angry the sane sharing of information is much more helpful.
There's no conspiracy. It's the paradigm. Israel is the 51st state. Only a fool would deny it.
Why does this thread still exist?
In 1950 there were only three thousand less Jews than reported in the 1930 census before the Nazi's came to power.
And we all know thousands of the cowardly lot fled rather than fight for their country.
So how did 6 million die?
Answer: They did not.
This is a very sick thread- now you know how the hollocaust happened.
R102 Jews serve a host population as a canary in a coal mine and Israel serves the Western world the same way.
Did u want to know anything about how to fight the enemy that came out of nowhere on September 11 2001? Westen military and intelligence knew what little they did by recognizing that Israel has been fighting this enemy since day 1.
Israeli military & intelligence is behind all advances in fighting "terrorism," cuz they were the only ones doing it while the West was banning ethnic profiling in police work etc.
We are their example of democracy and they learn from us how to do it while fighting an enemy that exploits societal commitment to freedom as a weakness. Thus IIRC
writer Victor Hanson said he supports Israel because it's the only society in the Middle East where people who wear military medals actually earned them.
But from a real "canary in the coal mine" perspective -- when the enemies of the West have a nuclear weapon they are WILLING & ABLE to use, how will we know?? Answer: they will use it on Israel.