EXPOSED: Secret Christian Group Truth4Time is infiltrating gay websites, maybe even Datalounge!
This project is conducted by a secret group called Truth4Time.
Members of Truth4Time also encourage each other to go on webpages featuring pro-gay articles and freely comment.
Again, the group isn't breaking any rules or laws by doing this.
But it is the following questionable tactics, such as "ganging up" on pro-gay pages with comments and flagging Facebook pro-gay pages multiple times with the intent on getting these pages removed, which is sure to raise eyebrows.
Truth4Time seems to be under the ludicrous impression that gays stoop to this action, so they figure "what's good for the goose is sauce for the gander:"
One member of the group, a certain Georgia pastor (who has a long history of maligning the gay community) provides tips on what he calls "leveraging public perception on the subject of homosexuality," or in layman's terms, providing an inaccurate picture of whether or not there is support for lgbt equality:
Has anyone else noticed a change in Datalounge?
Evil, insecure people, throwing on a blanket of self-righteous piety, setting out to make other people's lives a living hell.
They just like to read about when the man goes up into the man. They aren't fooling anyone.
Hate Groups have been trying to sabotage LGBT websites and organizations ever since such things began to exist. This is why the Gay community needs to "return" the favor, but return it, using all that extra available gay brain power and creativity, the stuff the bigots just don't have.
I honestly think they're surpressing their own desires.
This has been going on for close to 8 years now. Nasty, but now we tell how are the paid trolls.
Oh, like DL has not infiltrated (and had evil fun with) the Michfest board and certain fundy and mom-blogger sites.
As if anyone took any notice of those Wankers. .
I've noticed. And I bet you I could tell you some of the posts if I looked for them.
Oh, it's not the same thing at all, R6. Our "field trips" never last more than a day or so, and our trolling is blatant. These creeps set up long term and deliberately spread misinformation.
Do they not have lives?
Anyway, smacking them down like the little bitches they are can be fun.
"Nasty, but now we tell how are the paid trolls."
....."the members he [Alvin McEwen] named include: the National Organization for Marriage co-founder, Maggie Gallagher, and the group’s president Brian Brown; Scott Lively, author of the Pink Swastika, who is being sued for his alleged involvement in fostering Uganda’s notorious "Kill the Gays" bill:, Phyllis Schlafly of the Eagle Forum; Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth; Oklahoma state representative Sally Kern, who’d created headlines when said gays were “worse than terrorism;” Christian rocker Bradlee Dean, who has been at the center of a firestorm over allegations he called for the execution of gays; Brian Camenker of the Massachusetts group Mass Resistance; Matt Barber of the conservative legal group Liberty Counsel; and several others. The screenshots from Facebook of the group that McEwen provided also included Dr. Keith Ablow, a Fox News pundit and psychiatrist who warned parents against allowing their children to watch "Dancing with the Stars" because of the participation of Chaz Bono, a transgender man, who he termed a "very disordered person."
What the Gay community really needs to do now, is go after the members of these Christian hate groups personally, aka, their financial security.
Find out where they work and politically pressure their employers, set up mock Christian organizations to absorb their donations, tarnish their credit reports, thereby increasing the interest rates they pay. A few Gay friendly or Gay coerced contacts in the local police departments, can dramatically increase the monitoring for and concentration of, rudimentary traffic and misdemeanor violations too.
Take away their money - take away their power. Harass them, on a daily basis, within the full extent of the law. This is the required long term strategy for success. Think years not months.
I say bring it on. They're usually pretty transparent. Their arguments are invariably lame and predictable.
Insanity is best dealt with through electro shock therapy.
Hey, all you homophobic sock pupppets. Why don't you lick a socket for a thrilling change? Maybe your brains get rewired.
The evangelical, Old Testament Leviticans, Ankles to Jesus,Stone Tablet people are more into gay sex than even gay people.
It is no big mystery why they are obsessed with all things gay and troll sites such as DL- self loathing and suppression of the self.
I get the impression it is often the wives who bitterly post here who now recognize the clues their husbands exhibit early on in their own marriages and are aware they are most likely being used as camouflage as the headlines prove week after week.
Just because so many religious types are "tempted" by homosexuality doesn't mean non-gays are.
Certainly people secure in their own sexuality rarely give gay sex a second thought.
Avidly "infiltrating" gay websites under the delusion of doing god's work just illustrates the desperation of many of those who need that connection with gay people even if they are deluding themselves as to the reason they hang out here and in sites similar to DL.
Of course,the fundy and mom-blogger sites have been raided by DL -type posters and visa versa.
Pull up your big girl panties and deal with it,just like gay individuals have dealt with a life time of slurs and attacks both personally and collectively.
The fundies of all stripes are just unused to being challenged,that's all. If their beliefs went unchallenged they'd still feel it would be ok to throw the non-believers along with the faggots into the flames- just like in the good old days.
This should hardly be a surprise. Those inflammatory right-wing trolls are obvious.
We need a term for these people, similar to EST.
how about FARTs?
Yes - it's an awfully nice alibi for these people when their wives find gay websites on their computers.
Aren't there more deserving things to do - like aid for the poor and children?
How about deeply closeted gays R18. That is the only reason they are so obsessed with homosexuality. They have same sex urges which they are suppressing and feel ashamed about. Secure heterosexuals DO NOT worry about gay people.
The Fundies tried to change over to Atheist-bashing, but it just wasn't catching on. So they're going back to the fags.
It wouldn't surprise me. I'm convinced that the barrage of "post-gay" nonsense we went through last summer was the work of the Ex-gay movement. I could easily believe that some of the seriously nasty homophobic bullshit that goes on here is from outside agitators.
And, it's only going to get worse as the election approaches.
"Infiltrating" isn't the most accurate term, but whatever.
Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn
This is an election year, in the United Hates of America, so what else would you expect?
I for one seriously doubt that Christian Believers would do such a thing. We homosexuals with our perverted hatred of the Cross must really be crazy with the lack of Christ's saving grace to suspect such a thing as true, do you not think so, fellow fellaters? Let us put down our alcoholic beverages and our funny cigarettes and stop ogling young innocent boys for a moment and look in the mirror and see what the real problem is.
Or are you afraid of what you will see, Data Lounge blog participators?
And, yes, Joel Osteen is a very attractive male, but I am sure he is faithful to his lovely wife. Darn, fellow perverts.
I don't see it as being a good argument that homophobic bigots are secretly gay. Does this mean that the problem is with gays- if as one poster commented, straight people do not have a problem with gays, then this means that we are solely responsible for homophobia. Sounds like just what the OP was talking about regarding infiltration and misinformation.
So what the fuck if homophobic men are secretly turned on by male/ gay porn- it doesn't necessarily mean they are gay- human sexuality is far more complex than that. Plenty of straight men are turned on by 'lesbian' porn but are not closeted MTF lesbians.
[quote]I don't see it as being a good argument that homophobic bigots are secretly gay.
It sure doesn't help your argument that a lot of donation grubbing leaders of anti gay causes are caught with their hands in a cookie jar in form of a male stripper's tanga string while the stripper is still wearing it.
It would be foolish to NOT use that argument when it fits so many of those vocal anti gay haters.
Plenty of white racists are secretly black, but too self hating to admit it.
It would be foolish to NOT use that argument when it fits so many of those vocal gay haters.
[quote]National Organization for Marriage co-founder, Maggie Gallagher
The father of her child refused to marry this morbidly obese cow. Her husband is getting paid by NOM to keep quiet about the fact that they haven't lived together for more than a year and he wants a divorce.
I wish someone would pay me to post on DL. I'm hear all the time anyway. It would be nice to get a paycheck for it.
Of course, I generally try to be nice, so that wouldn't go well with either the christers or the pointlessly bitchy.
[quote]Of course, I generally try to be nice, so that wouldn't go well with either the christers or the pointlessly bitchy.
I here you, r34!!!
r24, why are you here? go to Europe, Africa or the middle east
Doesn't DL do this in the other direction?
R37 - So you're saying DL's a secret group that organizes and goes to other sites to strategically post disinformation?
You're an idiot.
No. You're an idiot
Girls, Girls, you are both idiots.
Really. I am just here to sabotage DL on behalf of Rightist Religion Group. I did NOT click on the thugporn links.
These people hate science and facts because it exposes them. Keep referencing the Psychology Today article and the study that shows that the conservative movement is driven by fear.
My husband is supportive of gay rights (he believes that everyone should have the same rights we have as a couple, and if your marriage is threatened by gay marriage, you have a lousy marriage and need therapy), isn't bothered by gay scenes in movies (if they further a storyline, that's the important thing), etc. But he's straight, so I guess gay things wouldn't bother him, or interfere with his life.
I think, to fight these Christians, we should deluge the forum with links to gay sex, gay porn videos and gay porn pics.
I'm sure we are bound to turn-on a few of these closeted bastards and get them far more into gay sex than they were willing
Wow that explains so much.Have they been around for like ever,ie 16 years because that explains all the times I have been on Datalounge and started a thread that becomes ambushed by a right wing homophobic troll or is that just a normal Datalounge day - Dilema ?
I say we report them to Homeland Security!
Oh right-wing cranky Xtains have been here forever. It's their second home and preferable to church sermons.
They love it. Gay pron, threads debating the meaning of life and death, gay Halloween tales, dialing the phone with a pencil, Mrs Patrick Campbell, they can't get enough of it.
[quote]the study that shows that the conservative movement is driven by fear
link please, r42? sounds like a good read.
there's a great atheist site called Truth Saves that point for point demonstrates all the problems with the Bible. I wish there was a way to have every kid read the site before they're indoctrinated into fundie group-think.
"But darling, I only post on BigMuscle and Adam4Adam to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ!"
Somehow I'm not surprised that Maggie Galagher, Tony Perkins, Bradlee Dean and 'Porno' Pete would want to get quite intimate with us on Datalounge. They are people who are obsessive in their (self) hate.
Self-hate? Are you saying they are all closet cases?
I do wonder what the ultimate objective of many of these organizations is because surely they are smart enough to realize that mainstream opinion & ideology is largely moving away from their line of thinking.
I think they only really exist because of $$$. I think if it wasn't for the fact that people are willing to donate money to these organizations they wouldn't have much point in existing.
[quote]Has anyone else noticed a change in Datalounge?
I have noticed a definite increase in the last few years of pro-biblical, anti-gay comments so yes, I am sure they are here.
Yes, most religion has created homophobia, and the cowards are the closeted-homophobic-haters, they are making a mockery of their own beliefs, all for the fear of the unknown fairy tale ending.
Pink Pistols people. It is the only thing these Christian bigots will ever understand.
Gallagher believes that many people in the LGBT community, specifically gay men, choose to oppose what they label as the "heteronormative" constraints of a monogamous relationship, with reference to Eric Erbelding's assertion that the married gay couples he knows are "for the most part monogamous, but for maybe a casual three-way".
I was unable to post a link, R47. But if you do a search for "Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults", you should find a link to an abstract on cell.com.
One of the TRUTH4TIME members is Luis T. Puig.
A couple of them are posting in the Gay Couple's Bed thread.
They also defend anti-gay Canadian PM Stephen Harper on DL.
We have caught one person lurking here on DL.
Norma May Bates has commented on the thread
About the painting above the gay couples bed, and posted a comment on the originating website, In Toronto Magazine. She is from California, so I doubt she is a regular reader of a Toronto Magazine.
But we have identified one person so far!
Facebook profile below
Meanwhile, norma's daughter is pregnant at age 14 because the child never heard, understood or saw the words 'masturbation' or 'cuddling' because they are bad words.
What is DL doing about these members posting here?
Actually, it is better to let DL be a training ground against Christian hate tactics. You see their rather obvious and illogical arguments and you learn how to defend against them. You can then take your new knowledge of how to fight these Christian bigots and apply it in your everyday life.
Are you sure that Norma Bates isn't a fake Facebook profile made by one of you pranksters?
They are pretty easy to spot.
[quote]Are you sure that Norma Bates isn't a fake Facebook profile made by one of you pranksters?
Yeah, that one reeks of Joanna Eberhart, Cheryl Bexton, and Ginny Billings.
intorontomag.com has removed Norma May Bates hateful comment off their website.
"Norma May" sure bears a strong resemblance to Olivia Hussey.
They've been paying people to troll this website since 2000.
Watch this election year how suddenly there will be an infiltration of Republican conservatives with talking points about the election. This happened to several forums I belonged to last time around. They'll casually whip out stats and various Randian nostrums. Sometimes they'll phrase things like "I'm a lifetime Democrat but..." and "I've always been a liberal, but..."
This group is here in DROVES today!
As election season approaches, this will get particularly bad this time.
Anti-gay hatred is practically the #1 Republican election strategy right now.
Yes, I remember Norma back before I was kicked off of One Million Moms simply for trying to bring order, structure and moderation to that website.
Cheryl Bexton, still dealing with my darn stinky kitty
The biggest lie is that this group encouraged its members to go on pro-gay sites when what they really did was encourage each other to go on Christian and Conservative sites and reply to the comments made under those articles. I was a part of this group infiltrating it and this part of it among other claims, but especially this part of it, is a blatant lie.
You needed to bump a dead thread to get your two cents in, R83? And in the process you had to post an inchoate mess?
I need to bump this cause these gays are back here!
Everyone who posts here should be required to post a DL Loyalty Oath along the lines of "Jesus sucked cock and it was good" just to make sure that things are on the up and up.
Uh, I can only imagine reading their comments .... I don't think it would be such a 'secret' reading their 'you're all gonna burn in hell you freaky perverts'
Their efforts will undoubtedly be "Lost2Time."
Freepy Christian infiltrators are so lame, humor-impaired, strident, and stupid they can never hide their real identities for long. I don't worry about them. They're always so lame ass.
You've done a fine job infiltrating DL, r91 !
Deflection is rule one.
Um...they would come here, because they want their asses rimmed? What's the problem?
I always thought Christians were clean...you know "cleanliness is next to godliness"?
OP = gay Alex Jones
r95 Only on Sundays. The rest of the week they stink like hell.
Since social media is becoming such a big part of our lives I am sure the Murdochs, Repugs and Co have employed infiltrators and opinion makers to post on message boards and sway and shift views.
I bet HW players and stars like Brangelina are in bed with gossip sites to deflect negative reactions about them.
how of the more enthusiastic volunteers for that christian group are secretly gay like us?! i bet you some of those so called christian men have hooked up and been with more than out guys
I love how it says on Facebook that Norma May Bates went to "Homeschooled."
Funny though, the trolls accomplish nothing by 'infiltrating', other than bringing themselves down and exposing their agenda.
Little strokes fell big oakes
These religious nut cases are relentless and fanatic. They don't live normal lives. They live to hate!
Damn, caught! So clever, these brilliant OPs. Does the 'O' stand for the Onion?
I don't think they're on DL. The new rules require 18.00 and a selfie of you with a dick in your mouth. I forget what the wimmen need to supply.
Are derogatory comments about women part of the new rules as well R104 ?
YES, I have noticed this on DL. Absolutely, and I figured a group such as this was behind it. I am not a paying member so I am not able to start a thread on this. Thank you for doing so.
President Barack Obama arrived in Palm Springs, California on Saturday via Air Force One to spend Father's Day playing golf. Hours earlier, he had lectured graduating students at University of California, Irvine, about the need to "do something" about climate change, mocking those who questioned that policy goal.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) encourages reducing unnecessary air travel to minimize carbon dioxide emissions. Golf courses are also frequent targets of environmentalists--especially in southern California, where a severe drought has placed a spotlight on golf courses' use of scarce water resources.
Norma May Bates also lists Bread Pudding as one of her activities and Fibromyalgia Awareness as one of other interests.
She's one of us.