The Big C on Showtime - This show is gonna be cancelled, right?
I just got to the halfway point of this season's 4th episode and turned it off. I think I'm done.
It's gone from being pretty silly to outright stupid, and I totally love Laura Linney.
Anybody else here watch it? Who the hell is writing this dumb shit? I might be able to stick with it if they matured the writing a little and killed off the stupid brother and fat chick characters but I don't think that's gonna happen.
Couldn't agree more. The ancillary characters have nothing to do with anything, and the Linney character never really does anything that deals with her cancer except make ridiculous life choices. Pretending to be a flight attendant? Trying to adopt a baby?
I gave up after watching the first episode of the new season. I agree completely about the brother and Precious--uninteresting and painfully unfunny. Laura Linney deserves better.
The brother living in the trash the first season grossed me out. I stopped watching then.
Why did Linney agree to this? She had a pretty good film and theatre career going.
Linney must have seen red flags, and yet if you listen to her interviews about the show, she acts like it was such gold.
Some of the Sex & the City writers have written episodes for this show, and I think that is the problem. The tone is everywhere. I think it would have been better suited as a Drama instead of a forced comedy.
"stupid" is the perfect word for this. They need tonletbit die. It's embarrassing everyone involved.
It's as though someone suddenly had the idea of making a show about a dying woman go for fifteen seasons. The writing was always shit, but now the whole concept and tone has gone completely overboard, grasping at anything and everything.
A husband back from the dead having seen "the white light"; the charlatan feel-good seminar circuit; our lead character taking up a separate persona at her local drinking hole (where everyone knows her fake name); a live-in 600-lb. Gabourey Sidibe whose huge fucking head is wider than my waist and whose presence gets stranger by the moment; a revolving door of characters introduced and killed off or abruptly ejected; and now adopting a baby as some sort of preventative against death by cancer? What's next, a cute, tousle-haired "cousin" who mysteriously comes to live with the family when the adopted baby becomes a pimply pre-adolescent in Season 12?
Did they get one of those crazy bitches from the Cancer Treatment Centers of America to write this shit?
The only hope now is to kill this whole enterprise and for everyone involved to lie low for a while and change their names.
I gave up after the second season.
There was really only one thing in the second season that was worth watching, and that was when her son found the garage full of presents for him for all the birthdays and christmases after she's gone. I lost it on that scene. It was played perfectly.
But dear god, the whole show is so ridiculously contrived. And I ended up just really not caring any more about any of the rest of it. I think I might have watched the first show of the third season before giving up, I'm not sure. I don't even remember.
I watch it for John Benjamin Hickey, whom I find really hot in spite of the way they grunge him up for the show.
At least one of the writers must read DataLounge. Did anyone catch that line of Victor Garber's in the last episode?
[quote]I gave up after watching the first episode of the new season.
EXACTLY my situation. I love Laura Linney and really tried but simply couldn't watch beyond the first episode.
This could be bad for Linney's career.
Wasn't U.S. of Tara also on Showtime?
I think the two shows must have the exact same writers.
I feel bad for Linney too. Could you imagine being on a series that you initially signed up for, thinking it would be Emmys and glowing reviews, only to find it limping along and universally panned. And YET, it continues...
And who told Susan Sarandon that this was a great vehicle for her talents?
R13, I'm wondering if she's locked in to the contract for as long as they produce the series.
I would think she has an out at some point, but she may have locked-in for five years so yeah, that would suck to be on a failing, panned program and HAVE to shoot it for 2-3 years after you've given up on it.
..I'll also add that I didn't have much of an opinion of Gabby Sidibe's character other than she isn't a very good actress, but the character has become loathsome and obnoxious. And I find her new afro-empowerment shtick, which I know we're all supposed to applaud her, but it's racist and tiresome, especially when she referred to another major character as "whitey". *cue laughter* FAIL
Cathy's initial diagnosis gave her a year to live and each season of the show is set in a different season of the year (fall, winter, etc.) My guess is it'll come back for one more season after this and that'll be it. They already decreased the episode order from 12 to 10 for this season, so it won't be a very big commitment to see the show through to its conclusion.
I'm guessing that Linney's paycheck has been one motivation for her. She doesn't work all that much in movies and hasn't been on Broadway for quite a while.
Actually R16, most, if not all of last season was filmed in the winter. I think maybe they had a Thanksgiving episode but still.
And this season has been all wintry as well. I think the series began in late summer because I remember she wanted a pool and she wanted it soon, before the cold set in.
If they closed out the series with four weather seasons, I suppose that would be the most artistic, classiest thing about the series so far. And if I knew there were a set number of seasons, I'd stick it out.
The way it's going though, I'm just not interested in sticking around. She's fresh faced and perky and doing something "wacky" in every scene. She's NEVER sick or sitting around or anything.
And that fucking gross ass guy who plays her brother. KILL that guy off already. We've had to suffer some of the most disgusting moments I've ever seen on television with this guy and I still haven't gotten over him showing his puss filled ingrown toenail. It's just STUPID all around and Linney is so undeserving of it all.
I just think its tragic that Linney is a 3 time oscar nominee, 3 time tony nominee and 3 time Emmy WINNER, and this is the best hollywood had to offer her in the form of a tv series.
Or is Linney to blame? Does she really think the show is great?
What was she nominated for Oscars for? I don't know much about her movie career.
I tuned out after I saw Cynthia Nixon's tits and Hickey's aging ass (yet again) in an episode. The show is one of the crudest on television.
But R21, you missed all of Hickey's scenes on infected toes and dirty asses and his making love to the hair on Cynthia Nixons titt and....
Yeah, it's disgusting. I know they're trying to make him out to be some crude naturalist free-spirit, but it's just nasty, something even frat boys wouldn't find funny.
The guy looks like he'd have disgusting body odor and he chews every scene he's in like a fucking human VitaMix.
It is a truly terrible show. Loved Victor Garber last ep though. And yes, r9, I caught that DL ref.
That girl from Precious is an aggressively bad actor and the storyline just compounds her limited talent.
The secret bar identity could be interesting but I feel it will just peter out unresolved.
I really like Laura Linney but this is such a missed opportunity.
For that matter, John Benjamin Hickey deserves better, too. Something about this show forces good actors to overact, perhaps to compensate for the terrible writing.
But he and Victor must have enjoyed working together. They used to date back in the day.
R24, that Hickey guy is an awful actor. Why must every line and scene be played by a scream or yell?
He's hands down the worst male actor on television.
The writing is wildly uneven, the situations contrived, and the acting mostly bad ... yet I like it in spite of itself.
I suspected Victor Garber and JBH had a history, R24.
Nice glimpse of Gabriel Basso nude in last night's episode.
I'll still TRY to watch, but I do agree, what was once promising is now dull.
Gabby's character could have been decent had they followed the Russian needs a passport line...but now she's just fucking annoying and entitled.
The brother? The frozen toilet? Frozen pipes ... jumping the shark way too soon esp with a stranger giving cc #s over the phone and the guy's voice doesn't even sound like VG.
Her writing FUCK and BITCH on her walls? Unnecessary and not funny.
Her getting drunk, flipping off her teacher, embarrassing the hot son (where he could NEVER recover)...all like Fonzie putting on his pleather jacket and water skiing over the shark.
Again, I find John Benjamin Hickey hot, but it stretches credibility more than a little for crazy, disheveled Sean to be the fucktoy of an upscale bi swinger couple.
I'm watching the 4th episode of the current season. Just heard the, "Corn? When did I eat corn?" line.
I watched the show for a few seconds and stopped watching. Laura Linney is so wondrtful no way in hell would see be married to Oliver Pratt. That actor can only be tolerated in very small doses...
[quote]At least one of the writers must read DataLounge. Did anyone catch that line of Victor Garber's in the last episode?
The corn thing isn't a DataLounge exclusive, it's a bit of ancient theater lore. To that end, I wondered if it may have even been an ad-lib by Garber.
Was that really Gabriel Basso's ass in the last episode? The edit was very strange. He face was turned away when you see the ass, and then it goes into the close face shot for his line.
So now Linney's character is driving cars through tents and brandishing pistols at people who piss her off? She must HATE these scripts.
John Benjamin Hickey is, like Brian F. O'Byrne, a really good stage actor yet extremely uninteresting on film.
Having Susan Sarandon get hit by a bus was some of the worst writing I've seen in a long time.
Erm, people, Laura Linney has been a producer on this show since the very beginning. It has always been rubbish and you could tell in the first season, regardless of what their intentions were, they were trivialising cancer.
There's a show called "The Big Cunt" on TV now?
Why wasn't I asked to be on it?
B. Brolin, Malibu
[quote]Was that really Gabriel Basso's ass in the last episode? The edit was very strange. He face was turned away when you see the ass, and then it goes into the close face shot for his line.
[quote]Having Susan Sarandon get hit by a bus was some of the worst writing I've seen in a long time.
The joyologist gets hit by a bus? Now I wanna see the show.
This season has jumped the shark. I wish the husband would've stayed dead. He's the most annoying character...
So now, with no money or means of support, she's going to live with an impoverished Latino fisherman and his wife? Terrific writing!
As I said in another thread, a friend of mine on the crew said a fourth season is very much up in the air and they're not very optimistic now, especially since Showtime has announced a fifth season of NURSE JACKIE as well as two new series.
I always thought the premise sucked-a dramedy about a woman with skin cancer who goes all nutty and seizes life by the balls. A much better vehicle for Linney would have been a US version of a terrific British series called AT HOME WITH THE BRAITHWAITES, about a woman who wins a huge lottery fortune and decides to keep it a secret, at least for the first season. Over the course of four seasons the family would lose the money because the 12 year old daughter had bought the ticket but then they'd get the money back due to a technical error at the trial.
Why not just a subtle, honest view of what it's like to live with cancer?
Oh, right. It's Showtime.
I could be wrong, but I THINK the 4th season is already shot and in the can.
No, R46, it hasn't. The third season wrapped two months ago with the shoot in Puerto Rico. My crew friend said the fourth (and final) season was supposed to start shooting in September.
I've really been rooting for this show to get better, but last night confirmed they've thrown in the towel.
Can I just say how lame the "Ababu" storyline for poor Gabby Sidibe has been? What is this, 1973?
Someone on the show must have agreed with you, r48, since now the Ababu heritage is in her heart.
Has the show been renewed?
No announcement yet, R50.
I found this season just so offensive, the brother is just gross, the son having anal sex was gross and the show is just off the wall and jarring. It feels so cobbled together and the finale?? WTH was that?? Spoiler alert here if anyone cares... she goes off on the boat with the non english speaking guy named Angel? She said her son was the best thing in her life, and she just left her entire family thinking she is dead. I basically hate everyone on this show. They all are annoying now. I too am a huge Laura Linney fan, but this show is awful. They could of done so much with it.
At least one of the writers responsible for this dreck is Cusi Cram, who originated the role of Cassie Callison (Dorian's daughter) on OLTL.
I think they are going to go for a Shirley Valentine type scenario, where she tries to escape from her life by running away to a remote island. Maybe next season will be the last, if at all. The whole cancer thing makes it finite, anyway. Whether she dies or is cured, either way, premise gone.
Still no announcement. It ain't looking good.
I just caught up from the fake pregancy reveal to the finale. That is some of the absolutely worst writing I've ever witnessed and, although I enjoy JB Hickey as an actor, there is really not a single likable character on the show. It's amazing that they've managed to make everyone detestable. There's no way to fix it, just cancel it.
It's sad this show became so horrible in the third season. It's completely absurd. I wish Paul had died. He is so annoying. I don't understand why Adam is such a jerk. LMAO @ the slutty Christian runs through traffic and takes it in the ass cuz she's saving herself. So ridiculous.
I hung in there for the first 2 seasons but the third season was the topper. I stopped after the first 2 episodes. I love Laura Linney but hate her character and every other character on this show. It had a good premise but it became a mess.
The Big C will end with four one-hour episodes. No air date yet.
The Big C will return as a four part, 1-hour long each mini-series on Monday, April 29.
Some of the details in the article at link.
I'm going to tough it out and watch till the end, but they should have realized they made this show and its cast a laughing stock over a year ago and ended it.
It's beyond absurd. The final episodes will include fashion designer Isaac Mizrahi as himself, (apparently he's playing a mentor to the obnoxious 'Precious' chick whose character is into fashion design. Nevermind that she's still in high school.. she still lands a famous designer as a "mentor") and Kathy Najimy as some sort of therapist.
Show's producers refuses to say if Cathy, the lead character, is dead now or will die in the end.
At this point, I'd be surprised if I'm not the only DLer still talking about the car wreck of a show.
I'll watch the last four hours although they probably screwed up by calling it The Big C: The Hereafter. My program manager on my DVR didn't pick it up and thus didn't record it. My guess is a good number of others didn't get it recorded either. Thanks to this thread, I recorded the new series. Agree that it jumped he shark but I'll see how it ends up...
I gave up last season in spite of my adoration for Susan Sarandon. I hated the direction they took and found Oliver Platt to be incredibly annoying. I wish they'd have killed him off in the second season...
R69, they should have killed him off along with Precious and the gross, irritating, scene chewing brother.
Is Gabby Sidebe gone from this season?
In the review it mentions Paul's new assistant. I take that to mean Precious is gone?? Did they explain where/why?
Also, it's amazing that we're STILL supposed to be buying that fat Oliver Platt wrote two blogs entries and somehow got immediately noticed and then picked-up by an international inspirational speaking star and is, somehow, mind-blowingly, famous in his won rite?
WOW. Do you think any of the writers are scratching their heads and wondering why they're out of jobs??
Everyone chews the scenery in this show. The new season is even more cutesy and overbearing. And Linney is the worst.
Gabriel Basso has grown up quite nicely.
R73, he is getting really sexy, isn't he?
And yes, this show is Linney's worst acting in her career. Everyone on the show is absolutely horrible and Alan Alda seems embarrassed to be a part of it.
The disgusting brother character is the most awful and stupid.
I just watch it to see John Benjamin Hickey play an overt heterosexual. At least he's not the homeless bipolar from season one.
Anybody still watching this crunchy mess?
There are two episodes left to the series. It's slightly, SLIGHTLY better as far as acting but still absolutely ridiculous as far a believability.
Oliver Platt looks like utter hell -- like a heart attack waiting to happen.
As horribly, embarrassingly bad as this show has been, I've been watching these last four episodes and it's made me very, very sad.
I suppose it was always a given she'd die, but it's still heartbreaking.
You can tell they were trying to rush the storyline to fit into a final few episodes. The acting has certainly improved, as if they calmed down after finding out they were cancelled.
Has anyone else here watched the little breakdown of the show they air where either the producer or director is giving background on the episode? It's a woman. SHEESH! No fucking wonder this show was such a mess. This poor woman is a complete idiot and it's hard to understand how she ever got a show produced.
"The ghost scene was really just a male actor and we super imposed a young female actor to lay in that same position and then get up, so it only looks like the spirit of the dead woman is coming out of her body. No, seriously. I promise, it's, it's NOT a real ghost, just an affect we do and it looks that way. I promise, it wasn't a real ghost."
She said this with a completely straight face, a serious tone as if she were trying to calm a hysterical audience who've just seen the effect for the first time. CHRIST. Poor Laura Linney.
[quote]As horribly, embarrassingly bad as this show has been, I've been watching these last four episodes and it's made me very, very sad.
[quote]I suppose it was always a given she'd die, but it's still heartbreaking.
Totally agree. It's been so frustrating to watch, but I'll probably cry like a sissy-Mary next week.
R79, come sit by me. My BF laughs at the TV every time he passes the living room and I'm watching. He stuck with it through early last season and finally rolled his eyes and gave up on it. The only reason I came back was to see it end.
I suppose it's the bad writing, but her family members, except for Precious, are all so fucking distant to her. Well, her brother's been cool. The husband and son have barely come to see her, they left her at the home like a dropped off stray cat.
I would have physically blocked my mom/wife from leaving the house and insisted she stay home until her last day.
And, WTF is up with Marlene? Are/were they gonna make the Marlene ghost a regular, recurring thing, or not? You see Cathy talking to her two or three times and that's it. It would have been interesting if 'Marlene' had been showing up a lot more, talking to her about death, acting as another primary character whose purpose is to have a death dialogue, because we've never seen Cathy or her family actually talk about it; what she'd want, etc.
With the personality of Cathy's character, I would have expected to see an episode of her running about the house, hiding notes for the family to find later, setting up house for them for when she's gone, a sort of 'Night Mother' type of thing.
Instead, we see "WACKY" Cathy speeding down the highway, taking her family's lives and the lives of others in danger one minute; the next she's too weak to barely move. It would have been good, I think to see the character truly having one last hurrah and preparation episode before she suddenly checks-in to hospice and goes down hill.
Very strange this show. So much potential but just so oddly produced and wasted.
Time for we DL The Big C fans to anticipate the ending of tonight's series finale... All three of us!
Oh, wait. She's gonna die. Oh well.
Will we see Marlene? Will Oliver Platt have gained another 30lbs this episode? Will we get to see Adam nude as he gets dressed for the funeral? Will Gabby Sidibe have gained another 30lbs this episode? Will the horrible actor/character of her Cathy's brother finally put a gun to his head?
I wanna see snow and a depressing city!
Whatever, whatever but the lovely Laura Linney gave an Emmy award winning performance last week, she was brilliant, her best work and she has Oscar nominations. I will watch tonight but I know she will break my heart.
I love LL also R82 but not sure I'd go as far as saying last week's performance was "Emmy winning".
She's an incredibly fine actor but she's only as good as the material she has to work with.
I fail to see how the character walking down a runway with a walker or deciding to drive wackily through town makes for Emmy potential. Some of the lines she delivered were good, but still cheesy and blatantly set-up. This series could have been so much better I think. Then again, I'm no writer so I suppose it's a lot more difficult than it looks.
(and for the last time... OLIVER FUCKING PLATT as Laura Linney's HUSBAND?! WTF?!?)
[quote]I fail to see how the character walking down a runway with a walker or deciding to drive wackily through town makes for Emmy potential.
Well sorry if that's all you took from her in the entire 60 minutes.
While this show disappointed me many times during the run, I have to say I LOVE LL and think she is an incredible actress, even with so-so material.
I never understood the character of Andrea in this scenario or the casting of Oliver Platt as her husband. **SPOILER** However, the young man Gabriel Basso (Adam) really blossomed in the role and the most touching part of tonight's finale for me was his graduating. Having a close loved one die this past year of cancer, I can say that it portrayed some things incredibly accurately while taking some far fetched scenarios a bit to far for my taste.
All in all, I feel this show opened up dialogue about terminal cancer and made it ok to joke about it while taking still dealing with it very seriously. I can't say enough about Laura Linney, she is just incredible and very deserving of an Emmy.
Haven't seen it yet R85 but nice post.
Yes, it was a horrible show, with the exception of these final two episodes.
I think Linney did a very good job, particularly lately, with what she had to work with. The character was undeniably unbelievable most of the time but the message they were trying to push across still came through in Linney's character.
As for Platt, I could have done without him. As for Precious, I still don't understand her character and as much as I try to love Gabby Sibide, I find her irritating and just not cut out for acting.
I don't mind spoilers so, can anyone elaborate a little on the finale for me? Apparently Adam graduated. Was anything resolved on Paul's "career" as a 'suddenly famous' motivational speaker?
Did Cathy die at home or at the hospice and did Marlene make any appearances?
I'm glad Linney's now out of this show and able to move on to bigger and better things; she deserves it.
Brian Dennehy really hit the wall. I know everybody gets old, but he had a daddy-bear thing going on for quite a long time.
In the minority, I guess, but I thought LL overacted badly, as did everyone in the show. Director's fault, I guess. Mugging was rampant.
Only thing about the finale that surprised/impressed me was the death of the Alan Alda character.
Also surprised that they didn't show the brother surviving the operation.
I loved the first season. I admit that season 2 and 3 weren't good. Oliver Platt is dreadful.
This last season has made me sad.
r86 *SPOILER* Cathy did die at home with no one around her except her Hospice caretaker. She basically said her "last words" of "Lucky me" in front of her family earlier that morning. Adam took accelerated classes on the sly so that his mom could see him graduate (cap & gown and all). That scene really got to me..Basically, the previous shows just led up to Cathy making sure all things were in their place when she died and they were. She made peace with her father. Marlene was in the final scene in a built in pool along with the dog....I think what they were going for was despite love and devotion of family, ultimately, we all die alone. I think they wrapped it up nicely after many bumpy roads along the way.
I just this minute finished watching the finale, and of course I am in tears. I was my mother's sole caregiver for many years until she died (at home, with me sitting next to her bed), and my best friend's wife died two years ago of brain cancer after several months of agony; my friend even tried to take his own life.
I recognize the series' weaknesses, but there was something compelling about how flawed all of the characters were. The final two episodes were really quite beautiful.
"Oh my God. I'm back. I'm home. All the time, it was... We finally really did it ... You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
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