Every part of that horrid pizza had sugar in it. How does this outfit stay in business. Even the crust had sugar. It was the most disgusting taste I've experienced with a seemingly simple pizza.
My sis loves it and recommended it to me. Goddamn, she has bad taste in pizza.
I would have rather gone to that cheap ass place for kids... C Cs or something like that.
Papa John is a big Romney supporter.
The only good part of Papa John's is the garlic butter sauce to dip the crust in.
OMG - my sis posts here. Keep dippin r3.
Just differ tastes. No biggie.
I have no clue what you're talking about. Seriously.
pizza r5. just pizza.
No, I mean about the "sugar in everything". It tastes like any other crappy chain pizza. It's perfectly edible, but completely unremarkable.
I've heard the "sauce is too sweet" thing before... I don't notice any such thing though. And I've never heard ANYONE bitch about anything but the sauce being sweet.
I know what OP is talking about. I haven't had Papa John's in years but I do remember their crust had a sweetness to it. Not sugary really but maybe there's molasses or something in there? I even got hints of marshmallow sometimes. Hard to describe but definitely a sweetness.
It's awful! Whenever people tell me how much they like PJ's pizza I seriously question their sense of taste.
I don't like any pizza that comes from chain restaurants. Papa Johns tastes like sugar, Domino's sauce is gross, Pizza Hut tastes like grease, and Little Ceasars has hard burned crust and barely any cheese. They all taste fucking gross.
Dominos isn't "gross" since they changed their recipe. It used to be vile, but now it's at least edible.
Papa John's finally opened franchises in my city, so I ordered from them to see what the hype was about. I completely agree with the OP; it was sugary and gross.
I've had all the chain pizzas. None of them are "good", but most of them at least have one "edible" variety. And I have no fucking clue what you people mean when you say Papa Johns is "sugary". I can only assume you're making shit up. I can't even imagine using that word to describe it.
It's on the web, papa johns pizza has sugar in their dough and pizza sauce.
R14, they ALL do. Duh.
Oily mess. I think the cheese must be fake.
[quote]And I have no fucking clue what you people mean when you say Papa Johns is "sugary". I can only assume you're making shit up. I can't even imagine using that word to describe it.
Yeah, several of us are just making it up *roll eyes*. Maybe you don't notice it Gramps since you're old and most of your tastebuds are gone.
I tasted it and thought they had put frosting on the pizza rather than sauce, the tomato was disgustingly sweet.
R18, your clearly exaggerating and making an utterly ridiculous statement.
What, are all you people OLD and never EVER consume any sweets at all, so you're OVERLY HYPER SENSITIVE to even a molecule of sugar or something? Jesus Christ. The way you go on...
R19 you are clearly wrong.
In fact it is old people who tend to gravitate towards overly sweet as when the tastebuds age they become less sensitive.
No, it's young people who crave sweets. Old people lose their desire for sweets. God, you don't even know basic human aging processes.
Old people tend to go for things more salty.
Only on the DL.....
Old people avoid sodium..my god where have you been?
They avoid it for health reasons because doctors tell them to. But they want more because it stimulates their fading taste-buds.
Please stop braying your ignorance here.
My granny loves Leonida's Chocolates. She always asks for a balliton and never has asked for salt/savory anything.
I ain't braying, I'm just saying.
Never got the Papa John's love. It's always tasted undercooked to me. Their "crust" isn't crusty; it has a doughy, soggy mouthfeel. And for a crap chain pizza place, it's ridiculously overpriced.
Godfather's is the baddest, bestest 'za evah!
Where I live, Papa John's is among the better choices for carry-out pizza. If I didn't live in the sticks, I would steer clear.
While I don't share OP's estimation of it as "the most disgusting taste I've experienced," he's right about the over reliance on sugar in both sauce and crust and the all-around disappointing quality (not only does the cheese not taste like cheese, it's often next to invisible or absent.)
A visit to any Sbarro should provide a new benchmark, unless you happen to like an especially salty slab of dense, thick, cake-like dough with as a foundation for toppings that taste only of salt aswim in semi-congealed pools of some oil that doesn't come from olives. Pizza Hut is especially foul, too; like something picked up from behind a dumpster.
Little Caesars pizza isn't good, but at least it's cheap.
[quote]If I didn't live in the sticks, I would steer clear.
I think the fact that Papa John's supports Mitt Romney, who opposes gay fights, is reason enough to "stear-clear".
self-respect doesn't exist in the sticks?
Shakey's was the best.
Who really orders pizza anyway? Seriously.
Do those of you who don't have decent takeout pizza in your area know how ridiculously easy it is to make your own?! Even if you don't have access to fresh mozzarella, using the packaged kind with homemade dough and your own simple marinara is SO MUCH better than the crappy chain pizzas.
You make the dough in advance and you can freeze what you don't use within a week.
There was one that opened in my neighborhood about a year ago and it has gone out of business already. We have several superior pizza places in the area and I guess they couldn't compete. I never had one but my sister said they are lousy.
Thanks OP for pointing out what I didn't like about Papa Johns. I kept wondering if it was my imagination that it always tasted so sweet. I live in one of the Chicago suburbs so I just use one of the local chains. They're usually pretty good. Other than that, Pizza Hut isn't so bad. Little Caesar is if I'm absolutely desperate.
Trader Joe's has, hands down, the best frozen pizzas, and they're cheap.
If you can't swing that, I would buy the pre-packaged dough at the market and bake my own.
I would never order in a pizza-the order are never right, it's always too salty, and you never know who has put their filthy hands on your food.
How can anyone possibly order from Pee-Pee John's, Feces Hut or Domino-blows is a true modern mystery.
"Even the crust has sugar."
That's not at all uncommon. I agree it Papa Johns sucks, but I don't get your surprise over this fact.
I can't get my over to heat over 400 F. I have a internal thermometer I can see in the oven window and I've never seen it read over 400 even after a couple of hours turned all the way up. That's the reason I haven't made pizza myself. I get Costco's combination. It's a very large pizza and made pretty close to the way I would make it myself. It's never doughy and their is no noticeable sweetness to their sauce or dough. Their cheese is quite good as is the rest of their topping. Costco is an exceptionally consistent pizza. I know the the posters in NYC didn't think so, be most of us here on the left coast do like the product. There big pizzas are only 10.00 but they don't allow too much of a selection. The meat ingredients are better than most other pizza shops even have access to.
The best combo pizza -- Minsky's Pizza Cafe and Bar here in Kansas City.
r28, I have nostalgic memories of eating Sbarro at the mall with my middle school buds in the late '80s. I always thought it was good. Then again, I was simply a hungry tween.
Do Sbarros only exist in malls? Maybe that's why I haven't had a slice in 25 years. The concept of actually eating in a mall food court as an adult is so suburban ghetto.
R41: I can't attest to shopping malls, but I was surprised to find that they still exist. Sbarro sightings in the past year include: at an airport, at Union Station in D.C. (a train station with a mall overlay, or maybe the other way around); and, just yesterday, at a stop along the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
"Any place where people might be hungry enough not to care."
Not a Papa John's fan. Pizza Hut crust seems too sweet to me.
I like Papa John's, but I always order it without sauce. It's a pretty perfect pie that way.
Every dollar I spend at Papa John's goes to Republicans and anti-gay agendas.
"The concept of actually eating in a mall food court as an adult is so suburban ghetto."
Yo can...you know...take it home to eat.
It is shitty pizza. I would fuck Papa John, though. He's hot.
[quote]Old people lose their desire for sweets. God, you don't even know basic human aging processes.
My soon-to-be 85 year old mother loves sweets. I can get the crappiest variety of Palmers chocolates 50 and 75% off after holidays. She eats fruit like it's going out of style [italic]and[/italic] she's recently taken to eating sugar straight from the dispenser. I bought a five pound bag for baking about 6/7 weeks ago. I used about only 4 cups. I discovered the empty bag and was mystified until I caught her doing it. Individual differences. And, no, she's not being starved. She has access to tons of food, but her eating habits have taken a decidedly childish turn.
You bitches are as insanely sensitive about sugar as the fraus are about peanuts.
[quote]You bitches are as insanely sensitive about sugar as the fraus are about peanuts.
Nobody on here said they were against sugar, they just don't want it on their fucking pizza!
[quote]No, it's young people who crave sweets. Old people lose their desire for sweets. God, you don't even know basic human aging processes.
Grandmas love their ribbon candy! And for Heaven's sake do you live so far in the Boonies there is no Mom and Pop Pizza shop? Or Pizza Parlor as we say in NY?
I received a coupon and was tempted to buy one. Thank you, Datalounge, for saving me from eating shit.
Too bad a lot of you don't live in New England, you don't get to enjoy the best chain pizza hands down: Papa Ginos. Thick, chewy crust with perfectly herbed chunky sauce and a four cheese blend.
Not to sound like a hipster asshole, but it's super easy to make your own pizza - quicker than ordering out and cheaper too. There are some nice pre-made crusts you can buy if you're not into making your own, then it's just a matter of pouring on some sauce that you like, sprinkling on cheese and toppings, and sticking it in the oven for a few minutes. So good!
Was this in Amarillo?
I ordered a few of them for a party. They were all eaten, with no complaints. I thought it was pretty good.
What in the hell do you know about taste, OP. You eat out assholes. Jeeze.
R53 I'm also a Papa Gino's fan. I grew up outside Boston and had it a lot in my teens and 20s. I think it's even gotten better the lat time I had on when I was visiting family.
I avoid national chains for pretty much eveeything if i I can. There are some decent regional chains. Local places are alll over the map, but when I find one I like I stick to it.
Companies use sugar as an extender in all kinds of foods where you wouldn't really expect it. No wonder diabetes and obesity are epidemic.
Don't order from there as the company is against their employees having health care or a living wage. And as you already know, the food sucks.
I like Pizza Hut, mostly their breadsticks w sauce, but it's a guilty pleasure and I am ashamed.
Worst pizza I've ever eaten. And yeah, it was the sugar.
I complained. They sent me a coupon for another. I asked for sugar-free. No such thing, they told me.
Sugar in pizza????? Really?????
I love Papa John's pizza! You people are chronic complainers.
Thankfully I've never spent a dime on Papa John's ReThug agenda pizza. I cannot stand his commercials, his plastic surgery is so distracting!
I live in a NYC borough, there are more than enough decent pizza shops around to choose from.
I also pick up frozen pizza at Costco, DiGiorno is excellent for a frozen pizza and Costco's own Kirkland brand is decent, but the crust is kind of blah and cardboardy.
I used to make my own pizza with Boboli dough, but I can't seem to find Boboli in my local supermarkets, Costco doesn't have it either.
The Entenmann discount bakery shops actually sold Boboli as well as Arnold and other brands of breads. Since I no longer live near an Entenmann's discount bakery, I'm not sure if Boboli is even being made anymore.
If you don't like sweet pizza sauce - you won't like Papa John's pizza. Sweet pizza sauce is hardly limited to Papa Johns.
Google New York Pizza Sauce - plenty of recipes with sugar added. Just not as much as in a sweet tomato sauce.
But if you're looking for a cheap and easy way to feed a lot of folks who are happy with free food and don't care what it tastes like - it can be a good deal.
All I know is that I thoroughly enjoyed the reaction of the young delivery boy from PJ's when he saw me in the front door. It was totally unexpected on my part but I loved it! Blast away at me, but it was a look of approval and surprise!
Troll-dar r63. It's our prodigal " 'mos" troll. On the "Where Not to Live in the US" thread he's calling us "nellies" if you don't like to hunt and fish. What a freak.
Sugar is routinely added to home made tomato sauce, my late Italian grandmother added a bit, she told me it was added to reduce the acidity of the tomatoes.
But c'mon, you are not supposed to taste the sugar, if you do, it means too much sugar has been added to the sauce.
I do feel bad for people who can't enjoy the many kinds of foods of different nationalities, it must be horrible to eat bastardized versions of certain ethic foods. The idea of a sugary pizza is revolting.
Thankfully, living in a very diverse area I've been able to eat all different types of wonderful foods my entire life. I grew up in a Greek, Italian and Jewish neighborhood, I was able to eat the best of those foods, as well as Mexican and Chinese. Later on an Spanish and Indian restaurants moved in and I tried those foods. I laughed out loud when a former work colleague thought Taco Bell was authentic Mexican food!
R68 - some sauces are savory some sauces are sweet.
If you're making a savory sauce and you can taste the sugar you failed.
If you are making a sweet sauce and you can taste the sugar - you're OK.
A casual observation based upon the apparent success of Papa John's - some people like sweet pizza sauce.
R21, got to disagree with you a little. I live in a small town housing project - elderly/disabled (I'm the latter), and whenever there are dinners and desserts, the women and men go crazy for the desserts. At least the people who aren't diabetics. I used to work in the summer at a restaurant in this same town, and usually elderly couples would have dessert.
But I realize there are probably lots of elderly who DON't like desserts/watch them, too.
Why the fuck aren't you BOYCOTTING Papa John's?
Why would you order from this right-wing republican anti-labor, anti-health-care fuckwad corporation, when in ANY town there are FAR better options?
BOYCOTT THEM, DAMMIT! Have some dignity! Show some spine!
R21 - I think you're wrong about this.
I think if you study the changes in senses including taste/smell you will discover it is sweet and salty which go first. Followed by sour and bitter.
I'm not sure what you mean by crave. But it is true that as you get older the size and number of your taste buds decrease. Meaning you need more to reach the threshold where you can taste something.
R72 if you start protesting businesses that are anti healthcare and anti labor, your are going to be one busy little fairy. Most companies are cutting back or cutting out full time workers so hey won't have to provide insurance. Thank you Obama.
Numero Uno deep dish pizza with Italian sausage!
It's heavenly and full of delicious calories.
I hate their pizza but that chemically engineered garlic butter dipping sauce was by guilty pleasure back in my pothead days. It was the only way I could tolerate their sugary breadsticks.
I'm not gonna bother reading all the previous posts ('cuz really, who gives a fuck about Papa John's Pizza?)- so forgive me if this has been said already:
But they fucking give you butter (actually oil) to dip your crusts in!
How disgusting is that???
No wonder Americans are so fat.
And spreading it to other countries - been seeing Papa John's couriers around here recently, in the UK.
R74 repeats a tired right-wing Republican talking point (aka "blatant lie") all while trying to discourage consumers spending money where the executives aren't blatantly right-wing assholes.
[quote]Sugar is routinely added to home made tomato sauce, my late Italian grandmother added a bit, she told me it was added to reduce the acidity of the tomatoes.
Yes we have heard this one before. Tomato sauce is not that common in Italy and when made one NEVER adds sugar and in some cases one adds vinegar.
This is a disgusting American custom created by poor immigrants with no sense of class or custom.
It is disgusting and ruins the sauce.
R81 When I was in Italy in 1990 I was told by an Italian woman to add sugar to the tomato sauce to reduce acidity.
Look up the science on taste buds. Bitter and salt buds decline first. Sweet is the first taste we get and the last we lose. Kids and old people love sweets. The more you fucking know, bitches...
As for pizza chains, Marco's is excellent.
OLD PEOPLE LOSE THEIR PIZZA BUDS FIRST! WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE KNOW ANNNNNNNYYYYYYYTTTTTHHHHIIIINNNNGGGG????
Well, I was told to add a carrot to my sauce to cut the acidity and take it out before serving. It works.
[quote]Well, I was told to add a carrot to my sauce to cut the acidity and take it out before serving. It works.
Because carrots contain TAH DAH....SUGAR!
[quote]Carrots contain carbohydrates, and almost half of their total carbs consist of sugar.
All of these pizzas are okay. In fact, even BAD pizza is pretty good. What delicate flowers you all are, what sophisticated palates.
You type fat, r88.
Just boycott Papa John's ... don't order it, and ask others don't order it.
r85 My Granma did the same thing. Also, one or two cloves added to the sauce/gravy/ragu(let's not even go there again, shall we?) rounds out the flavors nicely. I believe a lot of times when sugar is added to tomatoes, the cook is attempting to either accentuate an insipid tomato flavor, or, to actually mask the taste of a too-long simmered, or simply too old, sauce. Yick! Sweet sauce, what an abomination.
An Italian woman or an Italian AMERICAN woman.
I thought sugar was added to approximate the taste of sweet basil.
It takes perhaps ten minutes to prep gluten-free dough - made with garbanzo beans. You spread it on a stone like a pasty oatmeal. It actually tastes and feels pretty good.
[quote]It takes perhaps ten minutes to prep gluten-free dough - made with garbanzo beans.
And then you spend perhaps two hours farting your ass off
r81 - we're talking a pinch of sugar in a big pot. You shouldn't taste it. You can also use baking soda.
And yes, cooks in Italy (like my aunt) do it, sometimes. It depends on the tomatoes.
Nick Stellino, the chef and cookbook author, puts a little on raw tomatoes if they lack some taste.
In sauce, I tend to use (sparingly) baking soda. Like sugar, you have to be careful adding it so you can't taste any.
The last Papa John's pizza I ordered (GMAB, I liked their online ordering system) came undercooked and gave me severe food poisoning. Sick as a dog starting ~24 hours afterwards and down for almost a week.
Stop. Ordering. Papa. John's. Pizzas.
Boycott the fucker.
There are dozens of better options. Even DOMINOS is a better option.
Is that why some twinks are so skinny? You fuckers boycotting all the anti-gay businesses don't got nothing left to eat but bitter greens and shit? Actually, that explains why so many of you are such little cunts too... eat a damn cookie! Little Debbie and Mrs. Fields aren't sending you to the camps, bitches! Do boycott Auntie Annie's though... I saw that bitch on TV and that is one lady with some entitlement issues! Teach that whore a lesson.
I boycott Nabisco because they hired Tracy Morgan as their spokesperson.
Keebler all the way
'Corn Chip Nail Tips!'
"If my son is gay, I would talk to him like a man, or I will pull out a knife stab that little n-er to death!"
"Gay people aren't born gay. This 'born this way' is bullshit!".
That's funnier, R101. Right? Right. Yum, Wheat Thins.
Tracy Morgan & Nabisco
That bird just talked! That's crazy!
You dipshits take a stand, boycot all the crap you want. No one cares hell, they don't want you freaks in their businesses anyway.
Great...now we are supposed to listen to people talk about the taste of a pizza, who spend their free time eating out a guys ass. Unbelievable.
R104 and R105 = Papa John furious that he's not getting his ass eaten out - by anybody.
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