BTW, although Clark tried desperately to market American Bandstand after the fact as an A-Class variety show on the same level as Ed Sullivan's, it was FAR from it. Bandstand was a cute little afternoon teenage dance show that played records and sometimes has singers appear to lip-sync records.
I'm curious to see how the network news represents it tonight. Guess they will go with the bullshit that Bandstand was a "breakthough" and a "classic.
I think the poster in January was right.
One of my favorite TV moments was when Clark, as producer of The Golden Globes, had to step out from behind the scene to rescue presenter Elizabeth Taylor (who was too stoned to read the list of nominees in the category she was presenting).
She later showed her appreciation by sending him a $7,000 bill for her hair and make-up.
See ya, Dick.
R31, you are dimwitted and silly
I guess this makes Regis the new world's oldest teenager.
I don't understand the 'Rest in Peace' nonsense.
so trite and meaningless
And then R34 has to repeat it even though the OP already had it in the title
Now Ryan Seacrest will be even more insufferable.
I can't even breath [sic] right my now I'm crying so hard I just lost 1 of my best friends. I love you forever Dick & will never forget the real you.
I can't believe he's only 12 years older than moi. Seems like only yesterday I was watching his reck and roil when I came home from school.
Imagine, he outlived witless houston and a lot of the acts that performed on his program.
[quote]I don't understand the 'Rest in Peace' nonsense.
R38. What's so difficult to understand? And what would you suggest as an alternative?
There is nothing wrong with a few kind words upon hearing of someone's death. 'Rest in peace' is not trite and meaningless. It's just a brief expression of sympathy.
Again, any suggestions from you, or do you still not understand?
R38 maybe if you pull that judgemental stick out of your ass you would actually have some real friends. unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen.
Ryan Seacrest will be the owner of Dick Clark Productions within the year, if not sooner.
And, yes, Dick Clark was an asshole of legendary proportions.
Welcome to the club!
Rest in Peace, Dick!
I'm afraid Robin Gibb will be next
Why can't that newsfeed have said "Cheney" instead of "Clark"?
Our long national nightmare is over.
With Don Cornelius and Dick Clark gone, is Casey Kasem the only old school music man left?
[quote] And what would you suggest as an alternative?
I would suggest Rot in Hell because that's all the asshat Clark deserves.
Think about the meaninf of 'Rest in Peace'...
as if there is an alternative way to be dead.
'Rest in Peace' implied there is a hell to which some people may go to and that there is a way to be dead which is not restful meaning an unrestful eternity
RIP is religious nonsense. Are you not going to be lying still unconscious for eternity?
What is the alternative in 'resting in peace' as a way to be dead? living in hell?
such religious nonsense
There are just so many great performances from AB that you cannot watch because of music license issues.
So many of them should be YouTube or readily available.....
Show me now....
R55. Perhaps an expression of sympathy is for the family of the deceased. Ever think of that?
Maybe the person who died had a rough time toward the end? 'Rest in peace' is sort of a nice sentiment. And it's just a brief way of being kind without getting into religion. Please. I don't like religion either, but 'rest in peace' is harmless and a kind expression.
oh dick come down we love you
What R57 said.
Dick Clark promoted Frankie Avalon and Fabian's careers. I wanted Fabian inside me, deeply. His Playgirl layout made me the gay I am today!!
'Rest in Peace' is almost as bad as the very trite silly slogan 'he died peacefully'.
Almost everyone in obituaries is said to have 'died peacefully'.
What is the alternative? screaming 'I don't want to die' or writhing in a struggle?
Silly stupid phrases - the vast majority of people do not want to die so they are NOT 'dying peacefully' - they are just pretending to die peacefully or more likely so drugged up on morphine or other painkillers that they aren't writhing in pain or struggle
R22 gets my wit and wisdom vote!
r55, if it makes you feel better, every time you see "RIP" you can imagine it says "Rot in Pieces" and feel superior to the rest of the airy-fairy fakey world that's so stupid it actually thinks a dead body is "resting."
Better now, buttercup?
I can't even begin to remember how many New Years I rang in with him on the tv :(
[rR61] you are a complete idiot and an asshole.
Someone who suffers through cancer, in pain daily for months on end, would welcome passing peacefully in their sleep. What you you rather hear, died horribly in extreme pain when the heart attack hit?
You're a complete ASS, and no doubt a miserable, friendless motherfucker as well. Have fun with that.
R65, you do not have the depth of intelligence to understand what I am saying.
Of course, I am not saying a cancer patient should sufferand die in pain.
You obviously lack the cognitive skills and intelligence to understand what I am saying.
You're an imbecile as illustrated by your ignorant post at R65.
R61 sounds like my sister, who has Asspergers Disease.
Wow.. only here on DL. Some of you can really cunt a place up.
Joe Piscopo looks good at R54's link.
[quote] This is the guy whose "American Bandstand" in Philadelphia was segregated while black-influenced music was changing rock and roll? Uh, huh.
R8, you don't knwo what the fuck you're talking about.
And you do? So tell us, what *was* it like?
Now we know why he was selling his "Flintstones" house in Malibu.
R8 is full of shit.
Dick Clark, like Sullivan, fought to get black artists on the show at a time when many others were turning them down. Prime time shows had "quotas" of how many black artists they could have on, and even then, it only had to be the prim and proper so to speak. Dick was one of the few who put an end to that bullshit.
Many Motown artists in particular credit Dick and Bandstand for their success. He put many rising Motown acts (including the Supremes) on his cross country "Hits" tours. The Supremes got their first number one hit as a result of that exposure.
Dick, we hardly knew ye.
Bandstand, game shows, bloppers...
His practical joking laid the groundwork for the punking of millennials.
He was a real typhoon in the classic sense.
This has not been a good year for my childhood memories.
Whitney, Davy Jones, Mike Wallace and now Dick Clark and probably Levon Helms and Robin Gibbs very soon.
It is hard to grasp.....
I selected 'Cheney!' Stupid iPhone with its stupid tiny keyboard.
He was a pioneer in the sense that he was the first who truly captured the zaftig of baby boomer influence unto the popular culture, every bit as much as if their young bones were found fossilized between pages of shale, and it went on for decades!
A hurricane even, R76.
Big old whodunnit.
Do we get to see the portrait now?
Those kids from Philly and the songs made Dick Clark. American Bandstand from Philly was one of the best. Was this the first song played when ABC took it national?
r8 is a complete moron who is so ignorant that he cannot grasp that some of us actually WATCHED this show and KNOW that r8 is a filthy lying idiot.
I had the honor of appearing on Bandstand back in the Philly days when my records were taking off, and travelled with the Dick Clark Caravan of Stars during my Summer breaks from The Donna Reed Show. He was always generous with his praise and support.
In later years I attended several Times Square New Year's Eve celebrations with Dick, enjoying his company and this country's best known New Years party. Dick Clark was one of a kind, and lived gracefully to the end of his days.
any rumors of homo sex?
There was a legendary gayola scandal that rocked the world of pop music in the '50s. Also, from my studies of the era, people had more gay sex back then because there was such a stigma on teen pregnancy and the word and political and social world of 'gay' was only in its infancy, so Clark probably had a lot of sex with the male stars like Chubby Checker and Dion and the Belmonts as it was considered a harmless pasttime preferable to ruining a girls reputation.
Lord, not only did NBC News LEAD with Dick Clark's death, they repeated all of his bullshit about being the first to showcase The Supremes, The Beach Boys, Jackson Five, etc.
r86: Shelley or Paul?
Seacrest must be BEYOND happy.
For some reason, CNN dug up one of the Osmond brothers, and Tony Orlando to talk about Clark.
People are treating him like a saint. He was a nightmare to work with, more feared than respected, power mad, and everybody knows he lied under oath to Congress when he denied taking payola.
Hopefully people will start talking truth before the worship gets too far.
[quote]People are treating him like a saint. He was a nightmare to work with, more feared than respected, power mad...
Same thing happened with Steve Jobs.
At least Steve Jobs made great things people enjoy.
RIP. He was a giant.
They should never have let him go on the air after the stroke.
Clark owned the show, R96. "They" weren't going to stop him from doing anything.
some real idiots on this thread. He created a shows that made people happy and gave a lot of new musicians, singers their first breaks. He may have been nasty at times but that doesn't mean he was an asshole. I'd say he knew a lot more about music than that idiot Ryan Seacrest. That's the thing about today's kids, they don't know the history of anything!
Wrong -- the show was for teenagers to dance to records. He had acts on, but the show didn't give breaks, it was daytime shit. He would like you to believe that the show was like Sullivan's but it was not.
Stevie Wonder called into our local news to talk about how he was good to and for black musicians at a time when that usually wasn't the case, and that those times seem to be back with us now.
[quote] He may have been nasty at times but that doesn't mean he was an asshole.
He was nasty ALL of the time, unless you were someone he considered a peer. Anyone else was treated like a peon. Ask anyone who ever worked for him. Ask the PA he had fired for sitting down and reading a newspaper..while the PA was on his break.
Jane Seymour was shilling her heart fund when news of Clark's passing was released, so she had to comb her brain for things to say about him
Suh viciousness on this thread! By people who don't know what they are talking about.
Dick Clark helped INTEGRATE rock n roll music. Wouldn't allow his shows to perform in southern segregated venues. He also helped many many rock n roll singers and musicians to become famous--e.g. Connie Francis and all the sexy Philly teen idols--Fabian, Bobby Rydell, Frankie Avalon, etc.
[quote]and that those times seem to be back with us now.
He did give rock acts their first television breaks is what I meant. And yeah, why all the bitterness, the people claiming to work for him, I just don't buy it, sorry.
W/W for YOU, GOD @R78!
More "Cotton Club" than all-American, apparently, at least until he moved the show to L.A. in 1964.
R98, Ryan Seacrest has a radio show in Los Angeles where he interviews musicians and musical groups and gives updates on current music.
Ryan Seacrest also host E! Entertainment's daily news show which highlights lots of musicians and music news.
Ryan Seacrest knows way about current music and current musicians than you realize.
Hey R104/Dick Clark troll, he was garbage. Human garbage. On display in MMoore's Bowling for Columbine, which is why Dick banned him from the Golden Globes.
R103, you were there to see that or did you read it?
R108, I don't care. I just want Ryan Seacrest to go away.
Poor Kay and Flo!
Merv Griffin, Dick Clark...
Just a warning, if Ryan Seacrest has sucked your cock, you might want to get a check up asap.
[quote]And yeah, why all the bitterness, the people claiming to work for him, I just don't buy it, sorry.
okay, keep living in your little fairy-land fantasy world, believing all the phony accolades by the army of washed up personalities being trotted out to verbally cum all over Clark's body.
He was a mean, cheap bastard. Dick Clark Productions was an unhappy place to work where the motto was "Dick Clark before he dicks you."
Watching all the Bandstand clips everywhere on the TV now, it's embarrassing how ALL the acts are so obviously lipsyncing. Was there ever any live music on Bandstand?
Good one R27.
I agree with r61 to the extent that RIP, or Rest in Peace is an idiotic statement. Dick Clark isn't "resting", he's DEAD -- of course he's at peace.
People who use these cliches (which means 90% of the population), do so because death itself is not talked about like it needs to be.
[quote]because death itself is not talked about like it needs to be.
Well, smell you!!
R60, Fabian was lookin' pretty ragged by the 70's. Here he is at age 19 in all his glory...
R 114 I've always heard that about him- there was a complete disconnect between his persona on TV, and the real man, who was a mean SOB, if you worked for him. Cheap, bullying, angry - I've never heard anyone who worked for him, say a nice thing about him. Yet the public image was always nice guy, friendly, easy going. Your response confirmed what I'd always heard.
If someone makes it into their 80s, I don't mourn too much. In fact it's probably better at that point to move on.
Still miss Davy - only 66
Same here R119. I first heard it during that show he did with Ed McMahon -- the 'Bloopers and Practical Jokes' that ran during the 80's.
He came off as everyone's jovial friend on air, but behind the scenes was quite the arrogant, self-absorbed asshole.
Kind of like Kirk Douglas.
R119, once someone dies they become a saint. Didn't you know that???
Wait - tell me this - is Dick Cavett STRAIGHT? He's remarried.
what's the plan for the new year program? i assume they'll keep seacrest, but will they dump the rockin'? the network probably would rather sever ties with the clarks rather than owe his heirs.
So anti-climatic....Shouldn't they have counted it down?
For a second there, I had forgotten he died and when I saw the title of the thread, I started to get excited because I read "RIP Dick C.." then I saw the "l" wasn't an "h" and got sad again.
"there was a complete disconnect between his persona on TV"
That's ALWAYS the case.
Dick in a box
A close friend worked with him for decades. He claimed that he was a total asshole 24/7
Was walking down the street once when he came flying around the corner, bumped into me, nearly knocked me down and did not even say, "Oops," let alone, "Sorry." He looked pissed because I was in his way.
He was tiny, too. Probably had Short Man Problems,
[quote] what's the plan for the new year program?
New Year's Rappin' Eve
I never watched his NYE show. He always showcased 2nd and 3rd rate talents.
Back in the 60s he opened a fast food joint called Dick Clark's Steer Inn in my hometown I remember it being open one summer and by the following summer it was closed. .
For years the building which had housed the Steer Inn lay vacant and someone scrawled "Nuke This Eyesore" on the front. Finally, a used car dealership took over the building in the 1990s.
I can't help but wonder what procedure he was having at the hospital when he had a heart attack? Did something go wrong...?
They said it was an outpatient procedure, but 95% of all procedures are outpatient now, so who knows?
Someone who worked for his company, years ago, told me he Clark had a big wide flabby ass, that everyone made fun of. They called him names like 'bucket butt' and ' 'lard ass'. It was strange, cause on TV he always photographed like he was tall, and thin - not short, and squat.
Once rode in an elevator with that miserable asshole. He dropped his pants, farted loudly and then let loose with a strong frothy spray of diarrhea. Spray painted the walls. Shit was everywhere. Clinging foul stench hung in the air with six more floors to go. Ruined my brand new shoes. Doors opened as he buckled up and sauntered off giggling like it didn't happen and never once apologized. Flipped me the bird as he walked away, too.
probably angioplasty gone wrong
doctors are always much too anxious to do unnecessary procedures on elderly people who are frail and could get along without the procedures
look at Andy Rooney of 60 Minutes - the doctors outright killed him by doing an unneeded voluntary procedure
Was his ass big, wide and flabby, r137?
Another old tired racist mean entertainer dies. Boo hoo.
r 139. That's what I was told.
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And never brought to mind?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And auld lang syne?
For auld lang syne, my dear,
For auld lang syne.
We'll take a cup o' kindness yet,
For auld lang syne.
I once watched a program which showed Dick Clark at home. He had so much stuff he collected from myriads of entertainers over the years that it was incredible. He had had one out of many rooms jammed packed with stuff. You know the famliy is going to auction that stuff off, and it will probably be one amazingly huge collection of incredible items of American music history.
[quote] Fabian was lookin' pretty ragged by the 70's.
Jesus Christ what is up with all the Dick Clark hate mongering? I knew the man personally and he was a fun-loving, caring individual who worked tirelessly and created lasting relationships not only in show business but outside as well. Dick will be missed.
I am glad some people here aren't falling for the PR drivel and canonization of Dick Clark. He was a horrid individual to work for. He didn't treat anyone "below" him with respect and thought he was God's gift to entertainment. I don't care how "great" of a producer or a visionary he was. He was a grade-A asshole who thought anyone who wasn't a celebrity or a rich producer should be treated like shit.
RE 148 & 149 After seeing the coverage on TV, the glowing tributes of the various stars, then reading responses from so many people who (supposedly) worked for him over the years, including #149, i really do believe like so many producers, agents, etc. in the biz, that Clark was genuinely a great guy to you, (1) if you were a fellow businessman, with Clark's equal stature, (2) if you were a celebrity. Anyone else, it seems, was 'below' him, and thus treated like crap. I've known a lot of people like that. It's always facinating to watch them treat people like shit, and turn around and be so kind, and loving to family, friends, and those they percieve at
. Because they are the big boss, they feel that they have the right to be mean, or abusive, to everyone else, since they are signing the paychecks. It's not right, but sounds like that's how Clark was.
I can't wait to hear what the stars say about Jerry Lewis once he's dead!
I just heard on the local NBC news, "Another Rock'n'Roll legend has just died..." then a commercial came on, then when the news continued, there was a report on some new leads involving the Ethan Patz case from the late 1970s.
Fifty minutes into the 5PM news and still no announcement who else died besides Dick Clark and actor Jonathan Frid.
"There's no denying it, I always have and I always will love Dick."
WW for R153
152 -- prob. Levon Helm.
Any shirtless photos? I've always wanted to know what he looked like with his shirt off!
Did anybody see Connie Francis on Piers Morgan last night?! She was interviewed on remote, kept her face in profile the whole time, could hardly move her face, and thought she was there to promote her good works (and efforts to enlist Dick Clark).
I also heard he was a major dick with copyright infringement laws. The memorabilia he has he exploited or outright stole.
Two things I remember: SNL did a skit about a real asshole working for Dick Clark productions (played by David Spade) and someone told me this was actually meant to hit Clark without naming him directly because he had attorneys on speed dial.
I also remember how condescending he was to Howard Stern because he didn't understand Howard's relevance in media. It was so telling as to be embarrassing. I never discovered if Dick 'figured it out' and corrected his behavior, but early on, he was a PR hungry dick on the Stern show.
Watch the American Bandstand scenes where he's sitting among the kids, about to introduce a musical act.
He was really condescending to the kids who would answer his questions. He'd be flippant and sarcastic, and never funny.
I always saw that growing up and wondered how such an asshole had a job of interviewing teenagers and introducing music stars.
One small example happens 10 seconds into this video...
Last night I saw some old video where he was promoting American Bandstand falsly as one of the greatest music programs ever in TV, "everybody, everybody watched it!". Total bullshit,
I wouldn't deny that R160. It really was. No one missed that show - it would come on Saturdays at 12:30 and there wasn't a single kid outside in the 70s at least.
It doesn't take away from the fact that the guy was a phony. He would come off as Mr. Nice Guy but his arrogance would slip out. He couldn't help it.
Still I loved that show and we would watch it for the dance moves and fashions that older kids were wearing, and we would copy them. Sadly in the 70s that meant stuff like this:
RE 157. Poor Connie. She really seems out of it. I know she loved Clark, but she made it all about her. She's been pulled, and Botoxed so much, her frozen face makes it impossible to move her mouth at all, so she talks like Shirley Temple. Was watching "Where The Boys Are" yesterday, and thinking how cute, and young she was . Does she sing anymore ? I don't know how.
R181, Clark implied that 'everyone' was everyone that watched television, not just teenagers. Like Bandstand was another Sullivan show. I beg to differ.
As a 1970s teen, I had too much to do on Saturdays to sit by the TV mid-day watching teens dancing to records (which is what the was 99% of the time). I cannot remember a single friend who watched Bandstand. This is not to say that some kids did and enjoyed it. I would bet that the ratings were so low it didn't make the chart.
that's R161, not 181.
God, what hatefulness here! I doubt that all the tributes to him could be that wrong. It's DLers who are wrong. Some gays can be so hateful sometimes. And to people that they don't even know and have never met.
Living in Hollywood my whole life, and knowing personally, over a 25 year period, 3 different individuals , who at one time worked with, and for , Clark's various productions (these 3 don't know each other), I heard 3 separate cases of what I can only call verbal menacing, abuse, threats,
and general belittling, from Clark,towards these people, and others they worked with. The feeling I got was he was a control freak, who seemed to think bullying was the acceptable way to treat his employees.
So R 165, you can call it hateful, but if the man had been as kind, and considerate, as his onscreen persona led everyone to believe, you wouldn't be reading some of the responses you're seeing here. People get reputations, and here in LA, his rep was of a cheap, mean, SOB. Those reps don't come out of thin air. Thats a lot of meanness, over a lot of years, by people who DID know him, work wise.
Philly Bandstand WAS MUST-SEE TV for Baby Boomers! To claim otherwise is to lie like a rug!
We even had our favorite dancers, AKA the "Regulars", for Pete's sake! Mine was Carmen Jimenez, she of the exotic white streak in her forelock! The regulars were featured in Teen mags, even.
YES, the performers lip-synched; Bandstand was about SELLING RECORDS (hence, the Ratings it: "I'll give it an 83, Dick...."), and there was no way a singer was going to ad-lib something not on what the kids were buying!
We learned dance moves (Stroll, Mashed Potato, Twist, e.g.) from Bandstand.
It was true that acts got their biggest boost from Dick Clark's show! The entire "Philly Sound" had its inception here.
And later, when the show moved to LA, "West Coast Sound" bands, such as Paul Revere and the Raiders, highly benefitted.
As for Connie Francis: I saw her in concert a couple years ago, and she was fantastic. I don't give "Oldies" a break, either, if they don't still "have it" (Lesley Gore also does, as do Jay Black and Jimmy Clanton).
Maybe Dick Clark was unpleasant, maybe worse, to employees or the hoi-polloi; he wouldn't be the first mogul to be so.
I can only say that I thoroughly enjoyed every televised minute he brought to my g-g-g-generation.
Dick Clark was a pretty darn good dramatic actor, too.
Was Fabian interviewed?
R167, "Philly Bandstand" was sooooo long ago; it was the first tenth of the program. American Bandstand has to stand as a whole, and the show that Clark promoted ad nauseum as something it never was for decades AFTER it was cancelled, has to stand on its own.
He was bitter that the show died with the popularity of MTV. He never evolved.
I notice the estate has released all American Bandstand interviews on YouTube. Told you has was a dick with copyright. He wanted to be paid handsomely for his shit on YouTube. He didn't 'get it', but apparently, his estate handlers do.
I watched American Bandstand, as did many of my friends in high school. We were addicted--every day after school! It taught me all the new dances, and I got to see all the hot teen idols (whatever happened to Bob Marcusi, who supposedly discovered all those teen idols?). If it weren't for Bandsatnd, I doubt if many of them would have ever been famous. (They gave me fantasies for my jo later at night.) The teens who were regular on Bandstand even had fan clubs--Bob and Justine, Carmen Jimenez and her sister, Fran Giordano, Carol Scoldeferri (?), Barbara Levine ?) and many more. And they were always well dressed--Bandstand had a dress code in those days. Anyway, it was cool! (And, yes, I'm an eldergay.)
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I can only remember the good from Dick Clarks TV dance shows. Dick Clark was the equivelent to early rock and roll dance shows as RCA was to televisions and radios back in the day. He also launched many careers, too many to mention. He kept all of us entertained thoughout our childhood days. What a Brilliant guy. There just wasn"t enough brain childs like him. RIP.
You got it wrong it's not RIP Dick Clark
It is RIP Clark's DICK.
It's about a guy named Clark who was circumcised.