Phyllis McGuire - She was once a big singing star, and Mobster Sam Giancana's nistress. Anyone know how much he really left her
She lives in Vegas, with a security staff, and bullitt proof windows, as if she thinks someon e is going to try to assassinate her.
If anyone knows all the secrets from back in that time, it's her. But, she has kept her mouth shut. Maybe somewhere she has a tell-all book ready to go once she and her sisters are gone.
I once saw her mansion back in the 80's when I was little kid on TV. She had a copy of Effie Tower in the middle of her living room because she loves Paris, which is enormous. Also, by the press of a button, her windows automatically become bullet proof and security locked. She showed her precious jewel collection that is so extraordinary that it makes Elizabeth Taylor’s collection look like complete child's play. Her collection is truly incredible! She said Sam Giancana bought her all of those jewels, which are bought with blood money if you think of it. How many people died taking drugs for those jewels? How many prostitutes whose lives where completely destroyed to pay for those jewels? on and on. Sorry for getting preachy but the root source where her wealth came from is so corrupt. As I recall, Phyllis McGuire said she wants her jewel collection to be in a museum when she dies so everyone can enjoy them. She has no children.
BTW R1, I'm like you. I have been so eager to read a biography on Phyllis McGuire or at least, as you have mentioned, an autobiography, but very surprisingly there is absolutely nothing. Also, she is one woman that knows a hell of a lot. She knows about everything that is why she has super high security. She knows truth about so much from what I have read. She knows the truth about Kennedy's assassination, Marilyn's death on and on. I don’t understand why is she still quiet when practically everyone is dead.
She's a paranoid old whore. That's what it amounts to. Blah blah blah jewels and Mafia secrets and the "truth" about Marilyn. No one cares about how Marilyn died, and few people care who the Kennedy assassination involved.
Loved the McGuire Sisters and Phyllis was always my fave, long before I knew anything about Giancana.
Wrong, R3. If she wrote a tell-all including her version of what happened to Marilyn and the Kennedys, it would be an instant bestseller and probably a lot of powerful people, even if they weren't involved, would shit their pants.
R3, no one cares about Marilyn or the Kennedys anymore? That's wrong by just about any measure I can think of. Shut the fuck up, you fucking idiot.
R2, I love Paris, too, and, yes, it _is_ enormous, isn't it?
OP, the Sicilian Italian word for "mob whore" is "nistressa," not "nistress."
Oh, lay off OP, r7. It is well known that kids on TV rarely get a good education.
She's full of herself and likes to pretend she is more than she is.
And while Sam bought her a few baubles, many more admirers bought her the rest. She's an old whore.
[quote]OP, the Sicilian Italian word for "mob whore" is "nistressa," not "nistress."
Heeey! I thinka you meana gumar!
It is rumored Sam left her close to $1100.00 and that Phyllis has it hidden so she doesn't have to pay the taxes. Others have said the real figure is closer to $50.00 as that was what Phyllis always charged Sam for his wobbly canoodling.
Phyllis made a ton of money and invested it in real estate wisely at the height of her singing career. She is well-known to be a very shrewd businesswoman.
I highly doubt Sam or anyone else gave her any money. And most of her jewels she purchased herself.
Yes - with the mob blood money.
The house is in a part of Las Vegas known as Rancho Circle. I was in it once on business. It is over the top. The Eiffel Tower is the tip of the iceberg. It reflects its owner. This is one woman who has lived a life.
R3 = lobotomy victim
I think he left her enough to have $500,000 in plastic surgery.
Love, love, love The McGuire Sisters, with Christine, Dorothy and of corse Phyllis at the forefront. They're all still alive and one of them should write a book (Hear that, Phyllis?) The McGuire Sisters are my earliest memory that I have of television singing "Sugartime" in the late '50s and '60s.
In 1968, they retired from public appearances, giving their last performance that year on the Ed Sullivan Show. Phyllis McGuire continued to perform solo for a time. In 1986, the sisters reunited, performing at Toronto's Royal York Hotel, for the first time since their retirement. Since then, the sisters have made occasional public appearances together, including In 2004, when they reunited to perform in a PBS special Magic Moments: Best of '50s Pop.
In 1994, they were inducted into the National Broadcasting Hall of Fame. In 2001, they were inducted into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame. They have also been inducted into the Coca-Cola Hall of Fame and the Headliners' Hall of Fame. Then, in 2009, they were inducted into the Hit Parade Hall of Fame.
Dominick Dunne interviewed Phyllis for a piece in Vanity Fair in the 80s. I remember she talked about her love for Sam, but she strongly denied he ever gave her money or bailed her out (Dunne brought up some rumor about gambling debts at Caesar's in the 60s that Sam forced the "boys" to eat) of markers. She stated most of her earnings were invested in Vegas real estate land lots and she made a fortune off that later.
She also talked about her jewels (which she showed to Dominick and explained how her house had to have extensive security measures to keep her insurance premiums reasonable) and showed him some huge diamond ring that she said had been "switched" on her when she sent it back to Harry Winston for resetting. She sued the firm and accepted a settlement, which she told Dominick she could not discuss, but was very happy with.
Maybe the jewels were indirect tributes to Giancana from Las Vegas (and elsewhere) "business" people who needed his backup for their deals.
Given the timeline of her career, it makes sense that she invested shrewdly -- Giancana's contacts would have let her know when urban planners were scheduled to building on what were vast stretches of empty land in Vegas and Reno. And probably the Caribbean too.
[quote]and showed him some huge diamond ring that she said had been "switched" on her when she sent it back to Harry Winston for resetting. She sued the firm and accepted a settlement,
Can stuff like this happen at such a high end jeweler?
Yeah, yeah R17 You want sisters with real talent. Two words: Del Rubio Triplets. Or is that three words?
It happens more often than you might think, R22. Phyllis isn't the first customer of a high-end jeweler like Winston to sue over a switched stone.
All it takes is one dishonest person and there is a lot of incentive to steal the gem and sell it privately, especially when it's unique and someone is willing to pay big bucks.
#2 I too saw that interview with Phyllis and was aghast as to why she'd need uber security. Does her ego require it?
R23. Haha...I saw The Del Rubio Triplets (Edith, Elena and Mildred Boyd) once performing at the LA Pride Festival about 15 years ago. Oh Jesus, The McGuire Sisters they ain't! Guess I didn't see them the Del Rubios in their their prime when the talent was overflowing.
Their stage name comes from the color they dyed their hair; the word "rubio" means "blond" in Spanish.
[quote]No one cares about how Marilyn died,
Exactly. She hasn't been mentioned at DL in about eight years.
Giant pink Easter Peep wearing a sweater made of the Easter Bunny's ass-hair.
R18,huh?! That is an angora sweater idiot! They are very expensive sweaters. They are incredibly soft. No I'm not a troll! No I'm not a frau! No this isn't Phyllis!
About the rabbit that R18 mentions, they are hilarious looking and really adorable. Check out the link.
Does anyone remember a TV movie about The McGuire Sisters called SUGAR TIME? Maybe for HBO?
Mary Louise Parker played Phyllis rather well though the real sisters' recordings were, of course, dubbed in for the musical numbers. There were lots of big teased hairdos and crinolines!
I can't remember who played Giancana. Or Arthur Godfrey.
28, I was merely quoting the commentary on DList.
Personally, I would NEVER confuse angora with Easter Bunny ass-hair. Angora makes MUCH nicer sweaters.
The Dominick Dunne piece is a must-read; he adored Phyllis.
oh, I see R30. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
R29, I have tired to rent that movie from my local library and they have everything accept that movie!ugh! I don't do Netflex or the others because they are too expensive and I can't afford it.
You can get it cheap at Amazon, r32. They have some (new) @ $3.93, $3.94, and $3.95 with shipping at $2.98. After you've watched it a few times, donate it to the library.
R32 did you mean except?
r5 she would be killed herself before its release.
Since she has no children , wonder where her money goes, when she does ?Would be so ironic if she left the bulk of it to charity, meaning the mob money
would go to a good cause. Who gets the Effiel Tower ?
R8 made me howl!
[quote]I once saw her mansion back in the 80's when I was little kid on TV.
What show were you on?
[quote]She had a copy of Effie Tower in the middle of her living room because she loves Paris, which is enormous.
Effie is enormous, also.
The great John Turturro played Sam Giancana. Both of them were excellent.
[quote]Can stuff like this happen at such a high end jeweler?
Could you tell the difference, as a customer, without consulting another jeweler or expert?
There's your answer.
Another reason why buying jewels is dumb for the 99% of us who couldn't tell real from fake.
Apparently, R40, when she got it back and wore it one night, she thought it didn't sparkle like it did before. She brought it to her appraiser, who said the diamond was three grades lower than the original stone she had insured. That's when she filed a lawsuit.
"Can stuff like this happen at such a high end jeweler?"
It obviously does happen, because Harry Winston settled the lawsuit to Phyllis's satisfaction. I'm sure this is the dirty secret of the fine jewelry business.
It's not like the three of them were really superstars and besides, they had to split their earnings three ways. So it's a joke to think she became that wealthy in her own right. She was subsidized by her gangster boyfriend and received the bulk of her gem collection from him as well. But of course she's not going to admit she accepted blood money.
Phyllis and sisters were on the PBS "1950s Moments to Remember" Beg-A-Thon about six years ago which continues to air. The wigs were so full with curls you couldn't see their faces.
I thought sure R23's link was going to be this....
I read a terrible story about Giancana, Sinatra & Marilyn Monroe at Cal Neva lodge. Marilyn was raped repeatedly and drugged. At one point she tried to get away,she looked drugged and disoriented, and was hustled back to her room.
I saw a photograph of her, and she had sunglasses on, and was wearing a robe or a white shirt or something, and her hair was sicking out every which way. You could tell she was drugged. I've hated Sinatra for that ever since.
Who put this fucking Eiffel Tower in the middle of my living room ?
Umm, R43......the McGuire Sisters were huge superstars in the 50s. And they were a top draw in Vegas for thirty years and made millions.
I am not surprised Phyllis made a fortune in real estate in Vegas considering the time of her career and involvement with the Mob.
"She has no children."
R48, there is at least one generation (probably more) that believes if it didn't happen in their lifetime, it didn't happen. There's no such thing as history, only TMZ.
Children, difficult as it may be to believe, but in their day, Arthur Godfrey, Milton Berle, Sid Caesar, Danny Thomas, Ed Sullivan, Steve Allen and Gary Moore were some of the biggest and most powerful men in American TV.
R46, I couldn't agree with you more! You nailed it! Frank Sinatra expressed how much he cared for Marylin, sure he did! complete gangster thug asshole!
R46 here. As I recall it, I think Giancana wanted to have sex with Marilyn, party with her, so Frank arranged it. Marilyn was depressed about her latest failure, maybe she'd had a miscarrriage or a relationship that went bad, whatever.
She trusted Sinatra, and agreed to come to Cal Neva to relax and meet his friends and "have a good time." She did not expect to raped and used like a cum bucket.Frank betrayed her. She had always associated him with being friendly with Joe Dimaggio, who'd never have permitted that.
She was despondent and attempted suicide as a result. She may have even attempted suicide at Cal Neva. I think that's what happened. But when you factor in Giancana's relationship with Judith Campbell, and with the fact that he was a married man, and then the way he plundered the Vegas show girls and so forth, I think of him as a disgusting pig, and Sinatra with him. So Phyliss Maguire is not someone I'd think of fondly. Giancana was a monster.
Take a good look at this YouTube clip of the McGuire Sisters singing a hymn with their parents (their mother was a minister, prob. evangelical/pentacostal, in Florida.) Is the sister on the far left Phyllis? That would explain why the mother won't look at her.
"She has no children."
Um, no. Multiple bad illegal abortions, just like Marilyn and most of then.
I lve these broads who present themselves as pure grace, lovely older women, in St. John knits & Chanel suits, and then they have an episode
like she had in the mid 90's, when cops pulled over her driver, at a mini-mall, and Phyllis was drunk, in the car, and caused a big scene. She swore at the cops, refused to get out, and had to be hauled off to the station, kicking and cursing, like a hooker. The 'class' just slips off , to reveal the common trash she is.
I never could understood why she'd waste her beauty on a banana slug like Sam Giancana. But I figure she got Sinatra and JFK along with the deal.
I'm sure she had a mouth on her.
Waste her beauty ? Thats called an investment in her future. She sucked & fucked, in exchange for $$$, jewels, property - knowing that when her beauty was gone, her future would be set. I have a friend who dates and old geezer. Lets him do repulsive things. When I ask him how he can do it, he says " It's my retirement !".
sam Giancana's daughter, Antoinette, wrote an autobiography. It sucked, but it had some insight regarding her dad's affair with Phyllis McGuire
The Kane triplets were pretty good with the McGuire sisters!
I'm surprised no one has asked Angie Dickinson to write a book about her affairs with various high profile men such as JFK and Sinatra.I think I read somewhere she was involved with JFK when he was killed. She was shooting the film The Killers with Lee Marvin and had a breakdown on the set when everyone heard JFK was just murdered. I'm sure Angie has MANY interesting stories to tell about the same shady men McGuire ran with, but maybe that's why she and Phyllis McGuire are still alive (that they learned after Marilyns death & refuse to talk about these people).
R64, apparently Angie is a major nympho who has had a major sex life to the point that she had many affairs with women as well.
Angie has said many times, she'll never talk, never write a book, about her life, and loves. She was the only guest, when she heard she was going to be surprised, on "This Is Your Life", who got in her car, and sped away. They had to cancel the taping. In one sense, I respect her, in this age of everyone telling their sex history, to the world. But she's got some great stories, about dating Sinatra, Dean Martin, Johnny Carson, etc., as well as being married to Burt Bacharach, in his prime, and of course JFK. As for women, never heard that before, but lots of those dames have taken dips in the lady-pond.
Oh my goodness! R66, I totally agree! The dirt that woman knows must be amazing! What the hell are these people keeping silent about all of this stuff and keeping it locked away? So many years have past people! Everyone is long gone and dead!
At Tony Curtis' funeral, PM walked closer to Tony's casket than his children, Jamie Lee and Kelly, did.
Angie D, "She was shooting the film The Killers with Lee Marvin"
AND Ronald Reagan! It was his last film.
Once upon a time, I spent about an hour with a group that included Angie Dickinson. She seemed dumber than a box of hair.
Angie may seem like a dumb blonde on the surface, but don't you believe it for a second. If you ever listened to her commentaries/interviews on various DVDS, it's clear she's a sharp cookie who downplays how smart she is. She really is one of Hollywood's ultimate survivors-someone that stretched her career from the 50's to the late 80s, didn't fall into the alcohol/pills trap that many starlets did and is STILL ALIVE. Also-she got to bang a bunch of hot/rich or important men-and became a very wealthy woman herself. She absolutely knows where a lot of bodies are buried and why. I understand why she won't talk, but oh, it would be so fascinating if she did.
Picture of Phyllis at the Tony Curtis funeral.
Question. Why are all the mourners wearing what look to be white cotton gloves?
And Angie suffered with a mentally disabled child who killer herself at age 41. Niki was not only autistic, she has severe emotional problems; Angie's description of her read like the girl was bi-polar too.
Also Angie was primary caregiver for her sister, who died of Alzheimer's (it was the first time I'd ever heard of the disease.)
Gosh, somehow I don't even remember Tony Curtis dying. I thought the above poster was making a joke.
No, I remember when he died, and that there was something odd about his childrens' behavior at the funeral (even Jamie Lee.) Sort of distant or something? Maybe showing up at the last minute?
Nice girls don't sleep with mobsters, whores do.
RE 77 Fuck off . I've got a minature Eiffel Tower in MY living room
R77, I guess we could substitute "Secret Service Agents" for "mobsters."
R 79 Good one
[quote]Question. Why are all the mourners wearing what look to be white cotton gloves?
Because they were pallbearers? Handprints on the box look horrible.
Ron Jeremy was at Tony's funeral, there has to be a story there.
Having no children , who will Phyllis leave the substantial estate to ? Or in cases like this, does the mob swoop in , and take back their I'll gotten gain ?
R47 Better than a horse head
R63. Thanks!, Great hearing Phyllis McGuire sing with Barry Manilow. Nice that he had her on his CD. She sounds terrific!
I think women like Phyllis, Angie are alive because they are known to keep quiet. I think if they had blabbed at all, they would be dead shortly after.
Angie has always been a private person anyway.
Phyllis, Angie and other women of a certain age are also of a different generation when there was a certain amount of decorum and discretion. You didn't blab your business just for your 15 minutes of fame. And these women have lasted a whole lot longer than 15 minutes as a result.
Tell me about it!!!
May Phyllis RIP. Now, more stories about her and Angie please
It was Dorothy that died recently, not Phyllis.
R21 said: "Given the timeline of her career, it makes sense that she invested shrewdly -- Giancana's contacts would have let her know when urban planners were scheduled to building on what were vast stretches of empty land in Vegas and Reno. ..."
Well yeah, sure. As long as she didn't mind a couple of stiffs mixed into the foundations.
Dorothy McGuire died in September 2012 of Parkinsons disease, in Phoenix. We were at an estate sale in November where much of her clothes were sold. She was the middle of the three at 84 years of age. Her sisters are presently 86 and 81.
Ian Hope, Edmonton AB
I've been in "the mansion".It's more like a suburban tract house and is actually pretty tacky.So is the Eiffel Tower...
Angie Dickinson is one of the great dames of hollywood! She was asked to write her autobiography but when the publishers said they wanted her to write about Kennedy etc she handed back their (sizeable) check.
She is a bit like Joan Collins in that neither of them really made any memorable movies, but became huge TV stars. Vanity Fair should do a story on those two gals because they have known most of the great stars of hollywood, been up, been down, a couple of comebacks, tragedies with their daughter health....
Angie will never talk about the Kennedys etc. It took her forty years to mention that she saw Marilyn a few months before Monroe's death. She's a discrete, classy lady.
Phyllis sent flowers to Patty Andrews wake.
Phyllis McGuire was (is) such an old whore....her legs spread more easily than Philadelphia Brand Cream Cheese.
I met Phyllis almost 15 years ago, she sat next to me on a flight to New York. She does love her red wine. I did mention the Sugartime movie to her, and she insisted that it wasn't a movie, but a poor excuse for a mocu-drama. I got myself out of the bad subject by telling her that it reminded me of how good the music was. And, we've been friends ever since. I really have the impression that she will never write a book. She doesn't ever talk about Sam. The lady is no idiot, she knows what he was involved with, but, I don't think she knows about any of his business "affairs". Oh well, and so it goes.
r19 She was afraid Steve McQueen would break in and steal her stuff.