- Watch To Catch a Thief with cary grant, she is stunning in her first scene in a blue dress
- I love Grace Kelly in both of those movies (Rear Window is my favorite Hitchcock film) but I also like her in High Society, it was a different kind of role for her, a little more playful and sarcastic.
- R1, do you have Asbergers?
- I don't think she was fully appreciated as an actress. She was great in Rear Window and soo likeable. Everytime she is on screen you can't help but smile.
- Who taught her elocution. I have to agree, for a Philadelphian from an immigrant family, she sounds like Professor Higgins has had his way with her.
- Hitchcock thought she was too stiff in High Noon and Dial M for Murder, so he wanted to write something for her that would loosen her up a bit, like Rear Window.
- I love her in "Dial M For Murder". It's Ray Milland's & John Williams' movie, but she's very sympathetic -- far too good for Bob Cummings!
- She was from the Main Line. I doubt she ever had a very thick Philadelphia accent.
- Apparently she was not the "good" Catholic girl everyone thought she was. I love that about her. She was very liberal. Did she fuck Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart. They definitely had chemistry in Rear Window.
- I don't know about Cary Grant, but I've always heard that Grace and Jimmy Stewart had an affair during the filming of Rear Window and that she had an affair with Ray Milland doing "Dial M".
- Grace Kelly was boring and stiff. Ingmar Bergman, though not as delicate, was genuine and had depth.
Grace Kelly always looked like a hat model.
- [quote]She was very liberal.
So she married a prince? Not criticizing (actually a little jealous), but it just doesn't seem like a "very liberal" thing to do.
- R11, I completely disagree with you. She was great in Rear Window, natural, funny, charming, yeah it was the 50's and she did look like a fashion model in every scene but don't hate because she is beautiful. She somehow acted her way out of that.
- She was a giant whore.
- I remember watching it on TV with my parents. It wasn't until years later that I realized that loving the way she looked, talked and (especially) wore clothes like that wasn't the way other little boys viewed the world.
- [quote]She was from the Main Line.
Nope. Nouveau riche Irish Catholic family, not Main Line
- She was totally bored out of her mind living in Monacco
- [quote]do you have Asbergers?
Are you retarded?
- I thought she had a unique persona, she really did seem like a princess before she actually became one.
- [quote]Ingmar Bergman
r11, I'm so sure you meant InGRID?
- She wanted to do Marnie with Hitchcock but the citizens of Monaco were offended by the idea of their princess playing a thief and the sexual aspect of the movie didn't help.
- [quote]Grace Kelly was boring and stiff. Ingmar Bergman, though not as delicate, was genuine and had depth.
Damn, R11. That may be true but it seems like a slightly unfair comparison.
- [quote]Nouveau riche Irish Catholic family
Like the Kennedys. Only Grace Kelly's dad worked in construction rather than bootlegging.
- "Grace Kelly was boring and stiff. Ingmar Bergman, though not as delicate, was genuine and had depth."
I think you meant INGRID Bergman?
- I have an 86-year-old French friend who was a friend of Grace Kelly years ago when she lived outside Monte Carlo in Menton, France. They were in some women's club together. She says Grace Kelly was a very fun person and very sweet. She says when she & Prince Rainier parted they would always say the same thing: She'd say "See ya later alligator" and he'd respond with "After a while crocodile." I always thought it very funny to think of them saying that. My friend says that Rainier was gay, and that everyone knew it and no one cared. Evidently they were still crazy about each other.
- Ha! Oy dear gevalt.
I have Swedish ennui on my face.
- I heard she was Norwegian Catholic and there are whispers about Bay Ridge.
- R22, please. Bergman famously couldn't control her emotions and would just leak and splat all over. That's not acting. That's hysteria in front of the camera. Of course Bergman was wonderful, and learned the craft to match her rather volcanic emotional stores. She did great work, and was extremely attractive as an actress, but the qualities you cite are hardly all there is to acting.
If you don't understand how successful acting also requires restraint, intelligence, wit, and the canny application of grace - the ability to tease and manipulate and seduce, as Kelly did in most of her movies - you're not really prepared to do anything except spout things like, "Me like dis not dat."
Which is how you sound.
- R25 here. I should add that while my friend who knew Grace & Rainier thought he was gay, I don't necessarily believe her. She had loads of gay friends way back then and says she rode on the first all-gay cruise across the Atlantic in the 1970's, but she's an old lady who likes to entertain with her stories. I know she knew Grace Kelly because she has photos of them together, and photos of her daughter with Stephanie, but I don't trust her statement that Ranier was gay. Maybe he was - but maybe not. This lady knew Marlene Dietrich when she lived in Paris, too, and was close friends with Dietrich's lesbian lover at the time, some ballerina who was a Russian from what was then Soviet Georgia. She says Dietrich really just wanted to be a housefrau, and that she ate a very low carb diet to stay trim.
- Look, I've seen all her major films and, well, she was so beautiful she didn't have to act. Which worked out for everyone, as she couldn't!
Have any of her defenders seen "The Country Girl", her Oscar role? FYI she was laughably bad, particularly in her biggest dramatic scene. I mean, Bing Crosby blew her off the screen.
- Funny you should say Bay Ridge...
my grandfather and Grace's father were cousins and my grandfather lived in Bay Ridge.
Her mother is German.
- Wasn't it on Mogambo with Bill Holden that she had her most notorious affair?
Lucy and Ethel (at The Brown Derby)
- R30, you are exaggerating.
- [quote]I mean, Bing Crosby blew her off the screen.
No dahling, *I* did all the blowing off screen
- a couple old Hollywood books I've read alluded to Grace being a wicked slut - that if the public knew how much so it would have altered their opinion of her
- Nothing about "The Swan"?! I can't imagine anyone playing it better. She is truly exquisite in that!
- [quote]Bergman famously couldn't control her emotions and would just leak and splat all over.
Then I'm glad she died in middle age, so she couldn't replace me as a product spokeswoman.
- Isnt there a rumor that her car "accident" was actually cause by her bratty daughter having a tantrum in the car and forcing the car off the road?
- [I mean, Bing Crosby blew her off the screen.}
Well it's only fair considering she blew him in her dressing room.
- I have no idea what a "Philadelphia accent" sounds like. Is there someone in the public eye (or, should I say "ear") who has one? Is there some website (I couldn't find one) where one can hear various accents?
- R28 sounds like a psycho.
- She was a whore. Talented, but a whore nonetheless.
- Did anybody ever do a better job at being a whore though? She got to be a legendary movie star and a fucking princess from it. That's some blowjobbing.
- Grace Kelly was gorgeous, but my favorite Hitchcock Beauties, in order, were:
1. Kim Il Sung / Novak Djokovic (tie)
2. Tip O'Neill
3. Peter Bergman
- Glad someone mentioned that the Kelly family were not Main Line Philadelphia. Neither were they accepted by the Main Line society. I live in Center City. When Grace Kelly came to Philadelphia she stayed a few block away with her brother, Jack. He who lived a block away from where their dad's construction company was located.
Her last visit was in the Spring of 1982 for a week-long University of Pennsylvania retrospective of her films.
Her sisters and brother had no idea how badly she was injured, and were shocked when the palace in Monaco informed them she was dead.
- Yesterday was the anniversary of her marriage to Prince So and So and TCM aired one weird documentary on the subject. Filmed at the time of the engagement, it showed Grace strolling from one palace room to the next while the narrator attempted to place her historically among the royals pictured in the portrait gallery. I had no idea the wedding was so 'produced'. I'm sure the documentary eventually covered the wedding, but I'd lost interest by that time.
- DL loves whores, as long as they are only physical and not political.
- She once robbed me.
- She's utter perfection in "To Catch a Thief."
- I thought Alicia Silverstone would be our new Grace Kelly. She almost made it too, unfortunately that Batman movie robbed her of her cool mystique.
- Grace Kelly uncle was openly gay and her brother dated trans MTF
- I remember when Grace would chew up her food and spit it into Stephanie's mouth. So I can see Alicia being the next Grace.
- I loved Grace. One of her bridesmaids, Rita Gam (absolutely gorgeous in her own right and hired by MGM as a threat to Ava Gardner) was a friend of mine. I heard Grace on tape, and she was very, very funny. I think the problem with her on screen was, except in a few scenes, her sense of humor was never mined. She said when she studied with Sanford Meisner, they all used to sit on the steps practicing how to sign their autographs. She also, strangely, was considered for On the Waterfront, which I can't see at all.
I don't know if this is true, but I had heard at one point that she and Rainier actually separated and she lived in France most of the time.
- Princess Grace was wonderful for Monaco. For all the glitz and money, Monaco before Grace was a pretty run-down place. The hospital, for instance, was in shambles and no one in their right mind would go there for medical care. Grace took a personal interest in the hospital and now it's a very nice place, although still small. Sadly, that's the hospital she died in...
- R46, MGM 'produced' "The Wedding of the Century," and the Prince acquiesced because his tiny cash-strapped principality was in dire need of money and world attention. Heck, the Kellys even had to pay Rainier a $2 million dowry.
Kelly was indeed a beauty to behold in the few movies she did, but I think those looks combined with that mannered faux British / Mid-Atlantic accent made her seem snooty, remote, and ultimately unrelatable.
- [quote] Grace took a personal interest in the hospital and now it's a very nice place, although still small. Sadly, that's the hospital she died in...
So it worked out very nicely for her then.
- She was sexually abused by her father, which probably had a lot to do with her insatiable sexual appetite as an adult. She would've probably done porn if she were born in the past 30 years.
- The fable of her fairy tale princess marriage to a handsome prince of a mythical little kingdom really wowed the public of the 1950s but that would obviously never work today.
I wonder if she could have sustained a career into the 1960s if she hadn't retired from show biz.
What famous roles of the late 50s/early 60s would have been rightfullu hers had she stayed in Hollywood?
- Do you think she let Hitchcock bang her a couple of times?
- I find that hard to believe, R57.
I'm also skeptical of the 'whore' claims, just as I am skeptical about her death. I'm a DLer, I know there is a ton of sordid Hollywood history and false images, but sometimes I suspect these rumors about Grace Kelly are sour grapes on the part of some jealous/rebuffed/scornful parties who wanted to sully the reputation of a stunningly beautiful woman. It seems natural to make her a target.
Why can't all award winners' speeches be like this one?
- R60 here. After reading about the gays in her family and all of her gay friends...maybe she was a whore after all! Who knows. Wasn't her dad a womanizer or something?
- To Catch A Thief blue dress
- To Catch A Thief white dress
- To Catch A Thief on the beach
- Breast or thigh?
- Interesting that Monaguesque 'society' did not want Grace to return to film work because they looked down on it, and even more interesting that Rainier's mother Princess Charlotte also looked down on Grace. EVERY royal family in Europe looked down on Monaco back then, there were no representatives from any royal families at Grace and Rainier's wedding, unless the 'Aga Khan' counts. My point is, who were they to look down on acting in Hollywood, when Monaco was considered so unsavory?
- Why was Monaco considered unsavory?
- R67, because it's fortune was made by a casino. The other European royals considered it tacky to run a casino and attract gamblers and drinkers.
- Interesting picture begs the question...did Grace Kelly have an affair with JFK?
- [quote]Grace Kelly always looked like a hat model.
Bitch, please! Just the way in To Catch A Thief in the water at the pontoon she says "Well, that's warm friendly France for you..."
- So did Grace Kelly have an affair with Jimmy Stewart? Did Jimmy Stewart have any flings?
- I always found her screen presence utterly boring. Just another icy blonde.
- R64, that is a straight man's wet dream.
- With brother:
- With brother, part 2:
- According to her biography, Jimmy Stewart is the only co-star she did not have an affair with.
Also, at first, he thought she was too sexy for the role.
I love Rear Window. One of my favorite movies.
- Were her sisters beautiful like her?
And do you think her daughter was driving?
- Wow had no idea Grace Kelly was such a whore. She doesn't look like she would be. No big deal. Anyway, straight women can be very beautiful. Grace Kelly certainly was.
- Her sisters were good looking, but Grace was easily the best looking.
- Grace looked more like her father, while her siblings looked more like their mother.
- Timeless fashion:
- The last time we talked, Mr. Smith, you reduced me to tears. I promise you that won't happen again.
- Why was she allowed to go into acting? Her family was so rich, and acting wasn't really respectable back then.
- She spread her legs for her brother.
- Grace Kelly grew up in East Falls, not on the Main Line.
[quote]I have no idea what a "Philadelphia accent" sounds like. Is there someone in the public eye (or, should I say "ear") who has one?
Chris Matthews is as pure an example as you're likely to find.
[quote]her brother dated trans MTF
Specifically, Rachel Harlow, who won the drag pageant in the cult documentary [italic]The Queen.[/italic]
- September 14th, will be 30 years since her death.
- Now why would you say that, R84?
- Is it true that Kelly was Hitchcock's favorite blonde, and also the template for his later blondes?
- From R86's link: "Yet as eagerly as she'd courted Hollywood, Kelly found it to be a place full of phoniness, vanity and hypocrisy, so she didn't seem to mind giving it all up."
So were there some hard feelings there?
- Admit it, she was hot.
- She didn't have affairs with Stewart or Grant, but did with Gable, Holden, Milland and Crosby.
One of hers never mentioned is GREEN FIRE, a MGM programmer she had to make in that busy year for her 1954 - she looks great down in the South American jungle looking for emeralds with Stewart Granger, in her tailored outfits and lacquered hairstyles.
She is lovely too in THE SWAN with that different
hairstyle, she and Alec Guinness were lifelong friends after that and constantly played practical jokes on each other.
I dont really care for her in HIGH SOCIETY, but she is perfect in the Hitchcocks.
She and Rainier (who was not gay, and had a mistress on the side for years) were practically living separate lives eventually, Grace often went off to a bolt-hole in Paris where she was seeing a younger French guy. Any of the books on her will have all the details.
She and Audrey were the two perfect ladies of the 50s, blond and brunette, in contrast to the more carnal pair Monroe and Taylor. They must have been the top 4 female stars of the 50s, ranked above Doris, Kim, Janet etc.
- Grace Kelly was promiscuous?
- Grace Kelly was a notorious slut whose voracious sexual appetite was the byproduct of years of sexual abuse at the hands of her father.
- How can you support this R94? Have you got any evidence?
- R21 -- More likely Rainier and the PR people for the casino industry pushed the story about "the people of Monaco" not wanting her to return to films. Putting her front and center and re-establishing her as a celebrity in her own right (rather than as Rainier's trophy wife) might have encourage her to leave his cheating behind.
R69 -at least one book has said JFK saw Kelly's picture in Life magazine after he was married and blurted out "I could have married her!" -- to Jackie. He, his family and the Kellys had "accidentally" met on an ocean liner to England in the late 40's (thinking is the Kellys arranged the trip just after Grace's high school graduation for just that reason -- for one thing, they made no provision for Grace to go on to college.) Joe decided the Kellys were "too theatrical" (her uncle was a playwright) for his boys and ended any romance. Grace visited the White House while JFK was in office - wearing a bright kelly-green dress.
- Guys can you imagine Grace Kelly performing oral sex? Is that possible?
- Grace was elegant and fuckable.
- Grace Kelly...
- Grace: Come in, Cary...
- [quote]Just the way in To Catch A Thief in the water at the pontoon she says "Well, that's warm friendly France for you..."
Ha. I can remember exactly how she said that.
She was perfection in "To Catch A Thief."
- She was very good friends with Ava Gardner. Imagine the two of them walking into a room together...
- Grace and Ava...
- It's easier to imagine Grace and Ava working a room together (and splitting the tips).
- I can't understand Grace Kelly. Really, does anybody of you can?
- Have you heard the song 'Grace Kelly Blues' by Eels?
The cut great mindwalking through the dirty streets
Of paris in the hot august heat
Sun melts in the fake
Just looking for a place to stay
The actress gave up all her old dreams
And traded up, now she is a queen
Royal families don't have time for that shit
Your crystal ball you keep it hid
- R105, we don't understand you very much either.
- R107, i mean why Grace Kelly was messing with married men? In addition, she allegedly slept with most of her co-stars and she ended up married to Prince Rainier of Monaco.
I don't get her. She gave up a brilliant career because of that marriage and she ended up being miserable in it.
Why in the first place she married him? As i read she was liberal and not a stuck-up bitch. What happened in her mind?
- R108 - She came from a 1940's upper-middle class Catholic American family that had very strong expectations about what a proper young woman should be like and what she should or shouldn't do (i.e. marry "respectably" and not become a "loose" woman). Someone above mentioned that her family didn't make provisions for her to go to college as many well-heeled families did in those days so their daughters could husband hunt get their "Mrs." degree. Instead, they booked a cruise to Europe at the same time as the Kennedys, probably so their daughter(s) could meet marriageable Catholics. It tells you about the family's mindset. It's doubly weird because her mother had been pretty accomplished in her own right, but I think she gave everything up to have kids.
Despite having these expectations about women, her father was a philanderer, but it was accepted because he was discrete and, well, the family had no other choice. Grace was really raised in a household with very conflicted ideals and double standards about women. I imagine that she bristled at the hypocrisy. She had affairs as rebellion, probably -- a way of being her own person.
I don't recall if I read this in the attached story or where, but her family begrudgingly allowed her to attend acting school in NY once they were assured she'd be safe and sound in an all women's hotel (Barbizon, I believe it was. It had some fame.) They didn't consider it a good profession for a young woman. She had initially wanted to be a stage actress, but her voice didn't project adequately in the theater, so Hollywood beckoned.
I think she was still plagued by the weight of family expectations. She had fallen in love with the designer Oleg Cassini, but her family put the kibosh on the impending nuptials because he was divorced. And she was getting older, an astonishingly old 27, at the time when it was practically unheard of for a female of her age to unmarried and childless.
I don't know if she saw her marriage as a love match or something she had to do to feel legitimate. Who knows, really? But in a way, she had her cake and ate it, too.
- Here's a little more about Barbizon and Kelly. It sounds like she was dying to break loose.
[quote]Kelly’s domineering father, in Philadelphia, had allowed her to enroll at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in 1947 on the condition that she live at the Barbizon, thinking it would ensure discipline. Fat chance. Kelly would soon make waves by performing exotic dances in the hallways, while scantily attired, and for her facility in arranging covert romantic assignations in the darker corners of the hotel lounges. It all left her floormates agog, envious—and admiring. “I think a lot of the reason Grace became so famous for having lived there was because she never really changed,” says Philadelphia friend Maree Rambo, who often visited Kelly at the Barbizon and was later a bridesmaid in her fairy-tale wedding, in Monaco, in 1956. “She had a tremendous sense of humor.”
- R110, interesting your info, but it doesn't shed light to the mystery 'Why Grace Kelly married Prince Rainier if she had such a sense of humor?'
I found her marriage a rather humorless and plain decision...
I also don't buy that she fell in love with him, the guy had no charm.
And please can anybody tell me why she was so unstable with her previous romances? I don't think that in her case, it was always men's fault.
Why she had a thing for married guys?
Grace was shining in screen, i just wonder who she really was after all...i can't understand her really.
- I think the post at R109 explains it, R111. She lived at a different time, with different expectations of women. True mavericks were often condemned, at least in her parents' circles.
- Near the end of her life,she had a younger male lover while she was married to Rainier. She was living in France at that time and Rainier was in Monte Carlo.
I'm not surprised that she has roots to German Community in Bay Ridge. Unlike Norwegians(who are 99 percent Protestant to the chagrin of the Matt Wiener troll/apologist), Germans are almost evenly split between Catholics and Protestants.....
Chris Matthews once commented on Grace Kelly:"she definitely looked more German, I know Irish girls from Philly and they don't look like that!"
- [quote]I'm not surprised that she has roots to German Community in Bay Ridge. Unlike Norwegians(who are 99 percent Protestant to the chagrin of the Matt Wiener troll/apologist)
You're [bold][italic]STILL[/italic][/bold] not letting this go, a full five years later, and even after enduring endless ridicule?
Honey, you deserve some sort of Datalounge medal for the Most Insanely Persistent Troll of All Time.
- Though it's hard not to scream with laughter at all the mistakes on this thread --Ingmar instead of Ingrid, Bill Holden instead of Clark Gable in "Mogambo" and on and on ----the thread is sad because what these movie stars represented in America of the late 40s and throughout 50s is completely lost on most of you.
Americans post-WWII were riddled with inferiority complexes as indeed they have been from the beginning and are to this day --but in the 50s, in particular, they had been exposed to European culture and values like never before and a look at the cinema of that time exposes the split personality of Americans. You can't make the point any better than looking at Grace Kelly/Audrey Hepburn on one side and Marilyn/Ava Gardner on the other. The "princesses" with their slightly affected accents, so classy, such style-setters vs the "sexpots" with a touch of vulgarity, slightly risque, voluptuous. The public couldn't imagine they would ever have the class and good taste of a Kelly or Hepburn (didn't matter what their actual backgrounds might be) and they certainly couldn't imagine coming to terms with sexuality and its powers the way Marilyn, Ava, Rita, etc. did. So they came to the cinema to dream, to fantasize that they too, for a couple of hours, could be those stars up there. "Never gonna happen but this is America and I can dream, can't I ?"
- Mondo Sigmond!
- Well, then Grace Kelly's family was responsible for her terribly suffocating marriage...
Grace was such a contradiction!
What a pity she stopped fighting her parents' hypocrisy with her marriage to Rainier. How sad, because finally that trapped her and made her a tragical figure in the future.
Maybe if she stayed with her ex-fiance Oleg Cassini, things could have turned better for her, but her family as it seems always haunted and doomed her rebellious spirit.
- All the women on here are called cunts, why isn't Grace a cunt? She chose a hideous marriage, raised very troubled offspring and her movie career was brief.
- Because R118 she was perfection, fun and died tragically. That's all. I love her and her performance in Rear Window is brilliant. Seriously as someone mentioned upthread, she lights up the screen and makes you smile in every scene. There has never been or will be someone comparable in terms of beauty, style, class in Hollywood. Whether it was authentic or produced, it doesn't matter.
"Chris Matthews once commented on Grace Kelly:"she definitely looked more German, I know Irish girls from Philly and they don't look like that!"
I agree with Chris, Grace's looks lean more toward a Diane Kruger or Heidi Klum type.
- [quote]The fable of her fairy tale princess marriage to a handsome prince of a mythical little kingdom really wowed the public of the 1950s but that would obviously never work today.
You're telling me!
- I am disgusted that Nicole Kidman is playing her. WTF!
- Yes, it's somehow inappropriate. I like Nicole as an actress but she shouldn't play Grace.
- [R119]Thanks, I get it now. If you light up the screen you are not a cunt.
- I must have missed a huge event on DL the day Nicole Kidman was cast as Grace Kelly. Seriously?! This is the first I've heard of it. She's got the ice, but not the sensuality beneath.
I was reading Grace's Wiki page and read about her long friendship with Josephine Baker. I'd never heard of this:
[quote]In 1951, the newly famous Kelly took a bold stand against a racist incident involving Black American expatriate singer/dancer Josephine Baker, when Sherman Billingsley's Stork Club in New York refused Baker as a customer. Kelly, who was dining at the club when this happened, was so disgusted that she rushed over to Baker (whom she had never met), took her by the arm, and stormed out with her entire party, vowing never to return (and she never did). The two women became close friends after that night. A significant testament to their close friendship was made evident when Baker was near bankruptcy, and was offered a villa and financial assistance by Kelly (who by that time had become The Princess of Monaco) and her husband Rainier III of Monaco. The princess also encouraged Baker to return to performing and financed Baker's triumphant comeback in 1975, attending the opening night's performance. When Baker died, the Princess secured her burial in Monaco.
This took extraordinary guts and conviction. It's kind of funny that people who have such incredible fortitude and backbone in some situations often can't rely on these qualities when dealing with their families. I look back at my life and wish I'd stood up more against them; I now realize I could have done it. I didn't have that confidence then.
- R124, that's like the friendship between Ella Fitzgerald and Marilyn Monroe. Monroe was instrumental in getting Fitzgerald a booking at Mocambo, which had previously turned her away.
[quote]"I owe Marilyn Monroe a real debt…it was because of her that I played the Mocambo, a very popular nightclub in the ’50s. She personally called the owner of the Mocambo, and told him she wanted me booked immediately, and if he would do it, she would take a front table every night. She told him - and it was true, due to Marilyn’s superstar status - that the press would go wild. The owner said yes, and Marilyn was there, front table, every night. The press went overboard. After that, I never had to play a small jazz club again. She was an unusual woman - a little ahead of her times. And she didn’t know it." ~ Ella Fitzgerald
- I went to this psychic in Soho named Frank Andrews. He read the big stars back in the day. He said Grace Kelly came to him with the premonition she would die in a car crash. He refused to confirm it but told her she may have a stroke in a car.
"The truth about them," Frank said, meaning Grace and the Prince, "is that he married her for HER money."
- I can't imagine Grace Kelly having a fling with a woman and i can imagine many of her female colleagues having a fling with a woman.
- No matter who she really was, she left her mark.
Her beauty and her elegance are inimitable.
- Was she a heavy smoker? She quit smoking, anybody knows?
- Coffee and Grace
- Does anybody know anything interesting about Grace Kelly? Post!
- What about a good biography? Recommendations?
- Ravishing beauty when young and making films. Must have been hard on her to try and have a career and also please the values of her family. What a mistake marrying Ranier- with a bit more spine she could have had a much better life.
She remained a good looking woman but with a little bit of weight gain she went fast from cool as ice sex on a stick to lovely matron. I gather she drank a bit too much in her funk in Europe. What a decadent place Monaco-
Kelly, Leigh, Taylor and Garbo are the four great beauties in film. Loren is a force of nature in her own category. Garbo was the least convincing actress- kind of clutzy in my opinion- but Lord she was the most photogenic woman of her time. Vivian Leigh in Gone With The Wind is perhaps the greatest screen actress performance of all time- she was the luckiest actress of her generation to get that part. Sometimes she is so beautiful is hurts to look at her... which I think you can say about the others above as well.
- with a bit more spine she could have had a much better life.
Funny, I always think of her as totally self-possessed and full of spine.
I agree with your choices Charlie..though I really don't know about Garbo. Might have to throw in Ingrid Bergman maybe?
- What I mean to suggest is that Kelly kind of copped out when she married Ranier and once done did not have the "spine" to return to Hollywood which she easily could have. I have read she quite regretted leaving her careerbut but now idea if true. Monaco? Give me a break. And look at her kids! Has their behavior hurt the little gambling tax haven with a "royal family"?
- Grace with her daughter Caroline...
- Grace with her hubby...lol and with two of her children
- rincess Grace of Monaco and her daughter Princess Stephanie, Monaco, 1968.
It was with Stephanie her last drive in this life. On September 13, 1982, while driving with her daughter, Stéphanie, to Monaco from their country home, Roc Agel, on the French side of the border, Princess Grace suffered a stroke, which caused her to drive her Rover P6off the serpentine road down a mountainside. The accident site is located at 43°43′35″N 7°24′10″E. Grace was pulled alive from the wreckage, but had suffered serious injuries and was unconscious. She died the following day at the Monaco Hospital (renamed Centre Hospitalier Princesse Grace – "The Princess Grace Hospital Centre" in English—in 1985), having never regained consciousness; she was 52 years old. It was initially reported that Princess Stéphanie suffered only minor bruising, although it later emerged that she had suffered a serious cervical fracture.
- By the way all the children of Grace look like closeted cases. Lol. Especially Albert and Stephanie!
- Grace, why Grace? Why you married that man?
It was a cheap choice and you were not that cheap.
Oh Grace, oh my dear...
- By the start of the Seventies, it was over for the type of screen beauties and magnetic stars that emerged in the Fifties. So what would Grace have "come back to" ? Even by the late Sixties it was too late --Hollywood was in upheaval trying to connect with the audiences who rebelled against the Fifties. Audrey slowly departing the scene, Sophia back doing Italian films, Marilyn dead, Elizabeth entering her Scandal Years with a career receding after very few hits.
- Grace to Rainier:I had enough of you bitch
- I can't believe that she let that man make love to her
- R141, perhaps she could have done something akin to Ingrid Bergman in Cactus Flower - playing the straight to the 60s youth counterculture?
- How could someone think that Alicia Silverstone would be the next Grace kelly?
Sharon Stone and Diane Kruger are a better comparison.
- Someone asked upthread if Jimmy Stewart had affairs with any of his costars. Margaret Sullavan was one - every night she'd go over his lines with him and coach him in acting. Margaret was also hooked up with Henry Fonda, around the same time that she was with Stewart, and she was married at the time to some producer, director, or something (from a biography of Jimmy Stewart.)
He also had an affair with Marlene Dietrich and she tried to trap him by getting pregnant, but he wouln't have her, so she aborted the baby. That story's in her daughter's autobiography, which is sad. Marlene was as narcissistic as Joan Crawford - didn't let her only child go to school but kept her at home as a doll-like slave of her mother.
- Lol 146...
Marlene with her daughter Maria Riva
Beautiful daughter she had!
- Diane Kruger would've been much better cast as Grace Kelly...at least she could play young unlike Kidman who just looks to embalmed to play much of anything.
- When beauty and sexiness are combined, the results are breathtaking!
- I doubt that there was or is even one person that finds Grace Kelly not beautiful.
Her face was like the sun.
- Just looking at her brings a smile to my face. Especially in Rear Window, she is sublime.
- Grace with...womanizer Richard Burton!
- Elizabeth is cutting in!
- Grace is holding Hithcock's hand or to be more honest Hitchock is grabbing Grace's gloved hand.
- Grace Kelly and Alfred Hitchcock in an older age
- Grace Kelly & Alfred Hitchcock on set of "To Catch a Thief", 1955
- Grace, Grace, Grace!
- Grace and Alfred Hitchcock at the 1972 Cannes Festival.
- R157 (photo)
I hope it works this time...
- A behind-the-scenes photo of Grace Kelly with Cary Grant on the set of Alfred Hitchcock‘s To Catch a Thief.
- Handwritten letter from Grace Kelly to Hitchcock.
- Exquisite, one of the great beauties of the screen and also one of the most pretentious stars ever to come out of Hollywood- along with Lauren Bacall. I know of no one from Philly who spoke or speaks like Grace Kelly did.
- By pretentious...you mean fake...?
Grace with 'Hitch' again.
- Grace is supposed to read 'Beyond the High Himalayas' in 'Rear Window'
- I've read biographies and stories and two consistent takeaways from all of the Grace Kelly stories are:
Her father preferred her sister Peggy and never ever gave Grace the approval she wanted. Even when a reporter would ask about his successful daughter he'd express surprise it was her who became a star. The stuff I read didn't analyze it so I don't know if the father really was that indifferent or if he was manipulative/competitive/abusive or what.
Biggest slut ever in Hollywood or one of - fucked older married co-stars left and right. Theory was this went to her daddy issues (not abuse - his game was to never ever praise or acknowledge her no matter what she accomplished). He just starved her of attention.
Terrible actress (apologies to Grace Kelly uber here but I agree).
Bing Crosby was one of her on-set affairs during one of his marriages, not the one to the wife in the story that comes next.
Bing Crosby's last wife (the young one) tells or told what is to me (and her, apparently) an hilarious story of being invited to Monaco with Grace Kelly greeting Bing and Grace was wearing slacks and a casual shirt, all breezy, windblown, and flirtatious, focused 100% on Bing, while Bing's wife (who was very cute) was wearing a party dress with stiff petticoats as she thought was apropos for the palace. Grace was all "oh have soem bbq darling!" and the wife felt ridiculous. She also said her and Bing's kids were antsy and didn't behave that great while Grace's kids were perfect, so she felt even more ridiculous. (This was when Grace's kids Albert and Caroline were very little and before Caroline went wild, obviously).
- R165, so if a father pays attention to one of his daughters at the expense of the other, the neglected one have to become a nympho?
C'mon! I believe that Grace wanted to be a Hollywood star and that has nothing to do with her...daddy.
Interesting all your info though.
- Oh I don't know if she became a nympho because of daddy but that was a theory among those quotes in the bios and gossip I've read. He was a pretty rich guy and I guess powerful in her family so when you add in that she was naturally gorgeous and could model/get hired as an actress, maybe that seemed like one path for daddy's validation. All the other older daddy-aged men like me!
Even though she had all those affairs I doubt she was the biggest slut, at least not based on all the OTHER H'wood star stories I've read where everyone is cheating and screwing around just as much. I think it's considered racy because she was Grace Kelly and her image was being a lady.
- R167 in your opinion who was the biggest slut of Hollywood back then?
- I guess the other theory about her behavior of going after married men is that she's replicating the relationship with her father. Not that she's seeking approval from a father figure, but rather that they are married and emotionally unavailable men. Her father withheld from her and these men would always withhold from her because they were invested in their marriages. (Crosby was a Catholic who wouldn't have left his wife for her)
And Ranier seems to have gotten married because it was his obligation and he picked a trophy, not a partner. I don't know how much of an emotional connection they had. She was off doing her own thing for quite a while, so not much at this point.
- I wonder what was exactly her relationship with her mother. Was Grace her mother's favourite?
- Flirting away
- Why she didn't like younger men? I mean all of her known relationships were with men much older than her. Actually, did she really like men, or she was using them to boost her ego and vanity?
Just saying! I don't know really!
- R172 From what I understand she had a younger lover before she had died. She was sick and tired of meeting approval from Daddy and moved on. Supposedly met this younger lover at her apartment in Paris.
- Stunning woman. Most actresses today pale in comparison.
- R173 she had sex with him?
- ended up drunk hag
- WUT? She was drinking?
- You want to puke?
- Grace Kelly: A Cool Elegance
- R175 Yes they made love.
R176 I remember reading about Grace Kelly quitting booze and she lost something like 50 pounds just because she quit drinking. She must have been quite the lush if she quit drinking and lost that much weight.
- R181, lol....really?
Do you happen to know as well if her sexual life was satisfactory to her?
- Was Rainier good in bed?
I can hardly imagine that.
- The national orchestra of Monaco is larger than their army.
- On November 1969, Elizabeth Taylor attended Grace Kelly’s 40th birthday party in Monaco. After the event, Grace wrote her friend Judy Balaban Quine that she found it hard to take her eyes off Elizabeth, whom she described as being “unbearably beautiful”.
- Many people don't know who Princess Grace Kelly was, but for those who do, they admire her for her qualities. She was not only a princess, but she was an actress too. She helped many people when they needed it and made them happy.
Grace was born on November 12, 1929 in Philadelphia. Her father was rich, and she had two sisters and one brother. In the autumn of 1934, she started school at the Academy of the Assumption. She completed high school in May 1947, after transferring to Stevens School in Germantown, in 1943. She then started school at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, in New York City. In 1949 she started her acting career in a Broadway show, "The Father." After that she featured in eleven more films. She was also in some more plays. At the end of 1955, while filming her movie, "To Catch a Thief," Grace's engagement to Prince Rainer was announced. Grace got married to the Prince on April 19, 1956. They rode away on Prince Rainer's yacht to their honeymoon. The 27-year-old Grace Kelly was now Her Serene Highness Princess Grace of Monaco.
Shortly after she had come back from her honeymoon, she found out she was pregnant. On January 23, 1957, Princess Grace was thrilled to have her first-born child, Princess Caroline. About a month before Caroline was born, Grace started a yearly Christmas party for all the children of Monaco, where no parents were allowed. She was also the President of the Red Cross, which kept her busy. She became president of AMADE, a group that helps undeveloped countries with education and medicine.
A little more than a year after Caroline's birth, Prince Albert was born on March 15, 1958. She got pregnant one more time and had another girl, Princess Stephanie, on February 1, 1965, seven years after the birth of Albert. All of Princess Grace's children were growing up beautifully. One day in September, Grace took Stephanie for a drive. They got into a car accident. Stephanie managed to get out with a few minor injuries, but Grace wasn't so lucky. She suffered a minor stroke and died the next day, September 14, 1982.
I hope that some kids will read my report to learn about her. Then, at least a few more people will walk away, knowing about Princess Grace Kelly and her story, as I did while doing this hero project.
Written by Elizabeth from Montvale
- Stars are shining as they used to shine in Hollywood?
- Sophisticated Grace
- I know that the word 'ethereal' pisses off many gays but that's what Grace Kelly is in the photo below
- Princess Grace of Monaco (1929-1982) poses in her royal palace for Italian photographer Gianni Bozzacchi. 1971.
- Princess Grace poses for Italian photographer Gianni Bozzacchi, 1971.
- What a shame she never wrote her memoirs. One wonders if she truly regretted leaving Hollywood.
- A kiss from Grace
Yeah, indeed R192...
- Princess Grace has a lot to say about mothers
- Grace Kelly wearing a black sleeveless top, 1954.
God, she is so beautiful, isn't she?
- July 1982, an angel… ♥
- Grace Kelly resting on the set of ‘Green Fire’ in 1953
- Reading some magazines with a friend during the filming of ‘Green Fire’ in 1953
- R198 Reading some magazines with a friend during the filming of ‘Green Fire’ in 1953
That was the photo
Anyway enjoy all the rest!
- I say goodbye with this cool photo of Grace!
- What are you reading Grace?
Does anybody knows what the hell Grace was reading in this photo?
- "The Silent World" by Jacques Cousteau.
- It's a VHS box, not a book.
- She was a terrible actress. I'm sorry, but she was. She was always playing a stilted version of Grace Kelly.
But she was a creature of physical perfection. Just gorgeous and could make anything she wore look haute. Marilyn Monroe was the hot class slut and Grace was the icy prom queen you just knew would be a tigeress once she was finally bedded. Men just wanted to rip those gorgeous dresses right off of her.
- No it's the book version, sorry
- R203-R204 thank you darling, you are a sugar!
Kidman will show a side of Princess Grace that has never been seen before. Yet many in Tinseltown are disappointed that the real story of Grace Kelly will remain untold: the torrid tale of the sex-crazed man- eater who slept her way to the top, took older men as lovers to satisfy her obsession with her father and whose hard-drinking, hard-living private life was light years removed from her prim and polished public image.
“Grace almost always laid the leading man,” says novelist Gore Vidal. “She was famous for that.”
Grace even visited a series of brothels in Rome with Ava Gardner just for kicks – and went back to her hotel with a bordello waiter who only emerged from her room three days later. the chaste chill Grace exuded was in sharp contrast to the voracious sexual appetite burning within, claimed Gary Cooper, her co-star in 1952’s Western classic high Noon.
“She looked like a cold dish with a man until you got her pants down,” he said. “then she’d explode.”
She slept her way up, claimed lover Don Richardson. “She screwed every- body she came into contact with who was able to do anything good for her,” said Richardson, who was a 27-year- old divorced drama teacher when he became lovers with Grace, 18, who had just enrolled at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in New York.
RICHARDSON dumped Kelly when she showed him an emerald-studded gold brace-let that he recognised as a gift from millionaire playboy Prince Aly Khan.
“I’d known several other girls who had the same bracelet,” said Richard- son. “When Aly Khan had a date with a girl he used to give her a cigarette case with one emerald in it. When he [slept with] her he gave her the bracelet.”
- She's great in "High Society."
- The fact that she fucked Sinatra and Cobsy made me lose respect for her .However the fact that she fucked that sexual dynamo and hottie Marlon Brando was a grand slam though!She chose Brando over Bing...HAHAHA! Brando the man who had the picture with a cock in his mouth over old boring Bing,what a hoot of a story.
- Is it true that Kelly was a nympho for older men? I mean, she looks so purely beautiful and classy, it's so difficult for me to believe that she screwed most of her co-star. On the other hand, if she was a really cool and not a calculating slutty woman she would have never marry Prince Rainier.
Don't think that i trash her, in fact i adore her looks and her movies. But the truth is that
no matter how liberal she might have appeared to be in other aspects of her life, she was apparently slutty as it comes to romance.
- She fucked bill Cosby? Well, take the girl outta Philly but. . .
- *she would have never married Rainier
- In an Elizabeth Taylor thread someone wrote:
On November 1969, Elizabeth Taylor attended Grace Kelly’s 40th birthday party in Monaco. After the event, Grace wrote her friend Judy Balaban Quine that she found it hard to take her eyes off Elizabeth, whom she described as being “unbearably beautiful”.
So, i ask that someone...you happen to know if Grace got wet by looking at Elizabeth?
- R210 She had Daddy issues. Henceforth she loved going after older married men. Yes she was a slut a very unselective one. Bing had a fist fight with Brando when he caught Marlon in bed with Grace Kelly.Bing was such a fugly old thing,he deserved having Brando thrown in his face.
A lover of Gk had said that she would sleep with any man who could forward her career. That was a lot of men.
R213 Grace was admiring her beauty. Unlike others I haven't heard lesbian tales about Grace. She looks good in that picture with Liz.....
r211 Yeah Bill is from Philly, Grace was from Philly you know how they roll over in the City of Brotherly Love....
- My favorite picture of Grace.
- Did she ever act with anyone who wasn't old enough to be her father?
- Did she fuck Cary Grant? Of all those old farts she was with he would have been the hottest. I mean he was beautiful at the time of To Take A Thief.he also was quite the charmer. I can't get over the fact that she screwed Brando, good for her. At least she had someone who looked good and was close to her age!
- How did tall and 45 Nicole Kidman get cast as Grace Kelly at 33?
- If she was a slut, she should sleep with women too
- She was very beautiful, but there was something cold fishy about her. She definitely didn't have sex appeal. I mean, look at Marilyn. She had striking features, too, but she oozed sex.
- R220 Grace Kelly was so fucking beautiful. Even if you are a 10 on the Kinsey scale you could see that. That in and of itself is a turn on to straight guys.The fact that she was so alluring and cold on the surface has some sort of attraction. I'm paraphrasing but wasn't Gary Cooper that said that Kelly was cold as ice on the outside but once you got her into bed she was hot as could be.
Marilyn was more of an obvious sex symbol with her come hither looks and her ultra femme voice.
R218 The botox makes Nicole look young!;)She actually looks like a 45 year old with a stiff unmoving face to be truthful.
- Clark Gable and Grace Kelly began an affair on the set of 'Mogambo' that lasted for several months. After filming had ended, they resumed the affair while Kelly was filming 'The Country Girl'. Despite this story, Kelly biographer James Spada insists that although Kelly was infatuated with Gable, he did not want to get involved with a woman thirty years his junior. Although he liked her, Spada claims, theirs was a father-daughter relationship.
- Grace Kelly and her sister Peggy in Jamaica, photographed by Howell Conant in 1955.
- Grace with her siblings
- Grace Kelly, star of the movie The Country Girl, arrives at the premiere of the picture with her father, John Brenden Kelly (right), and brother, John, Jr. The premiere was held for the benefit of the U.S. Olympic Fund. Both male Kellys represented the United States in Olympic sculling events.
- You like her brother?
- Do you think that Grace ever experienced a truly passionate affair in her life, or they were all a succession of flings?
- R97, you didn't have to do that then. Men went to prostitutes for it.
- James Spada is a hack writer.
There is no way I do NOT believe Grace Kelly was sexually abused by someone, it didn't have to be her father. Women who are that promiscuous have usually been molested. Crosby was grotesque.
You guys mention other big female stars of the 1950s like Audrey Hepburn, Ava, Marilyn. What about Elizabeth and Sophia Loren?
- I tried to be like Grace Kelly...
- Her brother was smoking hot! Looks kind of like Matt Dillon.
- So Kidman is playing the 34 year old Kelly? That's hilarious!!
- RARE PHOTO of Janet Leigh, Alfred Hitchcock and Grace Kelly at the Film Society of Lincoln Center Gala Tribute to Alfred Hitchcock (date: 29/Apr/1974)
Wouldn't Grace and Janet make a nice couple? Just saying! Lol...
- I prefer Grace with blonde hair.
- Since the subject of "Hitchcock Blonds" was broached, I must say I always preferred 'Tippi' Hedren's beauty to that of Grace's.
- The Kidman bio pic must be a dud. It was suppose to come out last fall. Will it ever be released or go straight to video?
- R226, I thought her dad was more handsome and striking as a young man.
It's opening Cannes and Weinstein is desperately trying to get some publicity for it.
- I don't get all the Rainier hate. And I fiund him attractive. I totally can see them having sexual chemistry.
Children are messed up though...Caroline and her marriages, her beautiful but somehow strange kids, Stephanie was always a wild one and Albert..well, what to say about him..
- Grace reads reads The Silent World, by Howell Conant - Jamaica, 1955.
- Actually this is the book.
- Guys, look what i've discovered! This is really rare!
Grace Kelly with Catherine Deneuve!
- Great photo. I love how Catherine avoids to look Grace and she looks at the other women next to Grace instead (How French of her!)
Of course, Grace is less shy and always very direct. She is looking straight at Catherine.
- [quote]I love how Catherine avoids to look Grace and she looks at the other women next to Grace instead
Yes, R243, it's very strange that Catherine would be looking at the person who is talking. That's so ultra-French.
- R244, the other woman doesn't seem to talk though.
- How can you tell if she's talking or not? It's not like you can hear her.
- I don't know if I should congratulate her or feel sorry for her for getting pumped by that magnificent brother of hers.
- *slaps R246 who is probably R244
I don't know but you don't know either.
- R247 what the hell do you mean? You and your extremely wild erotic fantasies!
- Princess Grace chats with ex-dancer Kyra Nijinsky in New York. 1982.
- Isn't it cute her discreet blonde hand hair?
- And i left the best for last...
This is probably my favourite photo of Grace. She simply shines, she usually shined i know, but here she is the most natural and beautiful creature i have ever seen (in a photo at least!!!!!!!!)
Grace on the set of To Catch a Thief