And yet, so many of us would love to call him "Daddy."
He hasnt shut his mouth since he stopped drinking
I don't think he's acting….I think he IS the douchey guy from Bridesmaids and the I don't give a shit Don Draper.
I'd still let him stick it ALL in, though.
Wow. Someone admitted that they'd actually be a bad parent instead of bowing to that breeder pressure.
He seems smart enough to have had a vasectomy, too.
Whenever I look at him, I get the gay vibe. He looks like he'd be a great top.
He had a parent die young. At least he knows it's effected him.
He's a douche and he knows it. When people say things like this up front about themselves, you should listen. Thank goodness his 15 minutes are almost up.
"At least he knows it's effected him."
AFFECTED, for fuck's sake!
It's refreshing to hear someone make a statement like that. So many people aren't qualified to be parents, and yet they keep spawning kids. Enough.
Thank you, Jon.
R8, saying he doesn't want to be a parent that makes him a douche? I think it makes him refreshingly self aware.
Yes, there's such depth there. Noam Chomsky and Buckmeister Fuller have nothing on the amazing intellect and astute observations of Jon Hamm.
Thank you, Jon. We as the universe are greatful for your mind blowing statements.
R7, losing a parent young has nothing to do with his not wanting to have children.
Plenty of people have no desire for having a child and doesn't stem from losing a parent young.
He can blow blanks in me any day hot hot hot
Jon Hamm is not a douche. He's a kid at heart who likes to joke around a lot.
Douches know other douches well, a?
I eat old people's excrement.
Jon's my kinda guy. After bugging my gyno for approx 5 years he finally agreed to tie my tubes when i was 31. Best decision i ever made. Some of us know we'd be lousy parents. Give us a damn medal!
I heard from a friend that he has tinymeat.
R12: Buckmeister Fuller? Heal thyself, moron.
Jon Hamm agreed to tie your tubes, r18? Wow, is he ever a multitalented man!
His honesty is refreshing.
His wife has had so many fillers and botox applications, she is two procedures away from looking like Jocelyn Wildenstein.
"losing a parent young has nothing to do with his not wanting to have children"
I think it can. You can become more aware of the struggles of a lone parent, and how big the responsibility of being a responsible parent is.
Are you serious? Jon Hamm is gayer than my Uncle Theodore in high heels.
RE: He can blow blanks in me any day hot hot hot
Love IT !!!
Jon Hamm's just found a way to beard in such a way that he can live with himself. His whole, "I'm not getting married until gays can" schtick, is brilliant, actually.
He's so supportive of gay rights, no one questions his sexuality because if he were really gay, he would never be so out about supporting gay rights.
More gay actors should take a page from his book, instead of the Tom Cruise/Travolta archaic method of getting married and bringing children into this world to pump up the breeder image.
It takes someone very self aware to say that and I applaud him.
[quote]Noam Chomsky and Buckmeister Fuller have nothing on the amazing intellect and astute observations of Jon Hamm.
It's Buckminster Fuller you amazing intellect!
There are way too many people breeding that have [bold]no[/bold] business raising kids. Being a good parent takes someone that has the capacity to be selfless and love unconditionally.
Self involved messes carrying around a ton of issues do not (or at least rarely - some people do have the ability to rise above) bring up healthy children.
He knows he doesn't have what it takes and chooses not to inflict that on a child to feed his own ego or some societal requirement.
I think that is wonderful.
We that obviously big cock that's always bulging through his pants, I'd bet he dishes out a mean fuck...
Does anyone seriously believe that Jon Hamm is gay?
Or that Jennifer W would be his beard?
I have seen him in person at a party. He is a very handsome man, but not beautiful. You understand the difference?
I think he's a gay man and a very smart man.
He really does seem to have a great sense of humor. He's great on SNL.
r34 - Could you tell if he's wearing a hair piece?
I've heard he's losing his hair, but have not seen evidence of that based on his appearances.
I don't know, R33. I thought R28 was onto something, but I don't know shit about Jon Hamm. The supporting gay rights/hiding in plain sight thing reminds me of James Franco. He's not Hamm but he's not straight, either.
Remember the guy who sucked Fergie's toes?
His girlfriend always seems very strange to me.
Look R8, if they say I'm a douche, then I'm a douche dammit!!!! Don't argue and stop acting like you know me!
He is smart and he is a liberal and, like George Clooney, doesn't mind making that fact known. He speaks up. I love him.
Funny you should say that, Miss r20 - our husband thinks the same thing based on Jon's gorgeousness.
Also, Jon is 100% homosexual and in our opinion 'tres queeny' as well!
His kids are going to feel horrible when they grow up and read his comments.
R21 is too stupid to know what parody means.
The spelling of grateful should have tipped you off, Miss MENSA grad.
I never doubted his heterosexuality, but I too am starting to have second thoughts.
[quote]He's a douche and he knows it. When people say things like this up front about themselves, you should listen
The real douches are the ones who unthinkingly breed, and the ones who feel the world would not be complete without their own spawn running around, and the ones always spouting off about motherhood/fatherhood being greatest gift to the world (to themselves only, to their children, maybe, and the rest of us don't give a goddamn.)
The ignorance in condemning and judging this man for A. not wanting children and B. knowing why he doesn't want them is sad and ignorant in the extreme.
It is also ironic since this is a gay message board and the idea of tolerating different choices in life style shouldn't be such a foreign concept.
Having said all that I would like to add my support to what has already been said here:
More often than not having children is the most selfish thing a person can do. Having children to fill a hole in your life or to give you something you weren't able to get on your own steam is the very definition of narcissim and selfishness.
[quote] ….I think he IS the douchey guy from Bridesmaids
I think he looked at Alec Baldwin and said, "That could be my career in twenty years if my looks leave me," and decided to prep for a career as a comic leading man rather than a "real" leading man.
That's why he hangs out with the SNL/30 Rock crowd when he's not doing "Mad Men."
I think it's a good idea to plan ahead like that.
He needs more muscle tone. He has a nice face but a wimpy body. With broader sholders and beefier biceps, he'd be a 10.
Thanks datalounge for disabusing me of the notion that gay people are smarter than straight people.
President and CEO Don't Breed or Buy while Homeless Children Die.
Jon Hamm actually has a natural body R51 which is what "Mad Men" wants him to have.
I think it is nice that he is considered a hunk even though he isn't a gym rat like most modern actors.
I think if Jon Hamm actually were gay, he'd have a much more beefed-up, defined body that would be anachronistic for his character, as R53 pointed out.
It would be like the recent revival of HAIR, where most of the hippies had sixpack abs, ripped muscles, and plucked, waxed, and shaved pubes in the famous nude scene.
You muscle boys make me sick.
Muscles were NOT in style in the 60s.
"It would be like the recent revival of HAIR, where most of the hippies had sixpack abs, ripped muscles, and plucked, waxed, and shaved pubes in the famous nude scene."
ugh, is that true?
R56 yes it was true.
They director should have demanded no body shaving or waxing but instead the gay boys for the most part looked like little boys when naked.
If he'll be an awful daddy….then he better shoot that baby batter right in my mouth so I can swallow him down!
Ridiculous. I wouldn't have cast them.
Someone please get R49 a dictionary and tell Alanis what IRONIC and SELFISH really mean.
And you thought you were being impressive with that drivel? Oh, dear. Gotta love when the kids pretend to be adults!
R24, he isn't married. He has gone on and on and on about how he doesn't want to get married. He has been with his girlfriend about 15 yrs.
Watch him in the next few years, dump her, meet someone new, get married and have kids. That happens a lot
Stick to your guns Jon and Jennifer. I don't want to read a story someday that you've decided to spawn.
r49 - First, what makes you think that it's gay people making the judgmental comments about him not having kids?
Second, I suppose you think you're really tolerant by referring to being gay as a "lifestyle choice?"
Back in the 60s, no one pumped iron unless you were a professional athlete, and even then, nowhere near to the extent that they do today.
Hell, in the 1930s, even the athletes didn't pump iron. Take a look at Babe Ruth and his diet of hotdogs and beer.
Today, it's all about image. We've become so superficial. Lots of shiny red apples full blood-sucking worms.
R63, I think the point r49 is attempting to make is that since Datalounge is a gay website populated by mostly gay posters, we might be expected to be less judgmental about people who choose to live outside the norm.
In the case of Jon Hamm, the expectation of coupled or even single heterosexuals is that procreation is essential to the meaning of life and if one chooses to life a childless life they are morally suspect.
I don't see anywhere in 49's post any indication of any of the accusations you suggest.
r60, I doubt that proper usage of ironic and ignorant would penetrate your think defensiveness around this issue.
Whatever r49's flaws as a writer, he/she certainly touched the last raw nerve possesed by r60 and r63.
Hysterical responses like 460's and r63's do nothing to obfuscate the clarity of r49's observation that many people have children in order to get something from life rathter than give something to life and certainly having children in no way innoculates you against narcissim and self absorption.
So if a nerve was touched, so be it.
If r60 and r63 are selfless parents yourself just procreating to make the world a better place then lets see some of that magnificent genetic material at play in the quality of your responses.
The statement below by R65 is not valid:
"the expectation of coupled or even single heterosexuals is that procreation is essential to the meaning of life"
There are plenty of heterosexual singles and couples who are NOT interested in procreating.
And plenty of hetero singles and couples who certainly do NOT believe that their personal procreation is essential to the meaning of life.
And postscript - there are plenty of hetero posters and readers on Datalounge.
When I saw him on a talk show, he really pinged...I can't help it.
I see a quote from Jennifer Westfeldt in the link; girlfriend lies like a rug! She would have kids in 2 seconds, and marry Jon Hamm, if he would ask her. I believe.
R31, thank you for speaking the truth and doing so eloquently!
An admirer of R31, Jon Hamm, Jay Leno, Rachael Ray, et al. who do not want kids
r66, I think if you ask heterosexual people who are coupled [either married or not] without children how many people ask them when they are going to have children or why they don't you will probably hear "all the time"
I know a straight couple, very attractive in their early 30s without kids and people are always asking them why they don't have kids.
I bet most het couples without children are constantly being asked this question.
Conversely, it is probably very uncommon for people with childrent to field the question "why DID you have children" despite how often those around them may think it.
I think you completely missed the point in r65's point regarding the expectation that society still has regarding couples and procreation.
And your use of the word invalid is apppauling.
Believe it or not there are hetero woman who are not enchanted with the idea of having kids. And some women just have kids because of the pressure from society, "HAVE KIDS!"
[quote]I know a straight couple, very attractive in their early 30s without kids and people are always asking them why they don't have kids.
That is such a rude and inappropriate question. I was raised that you never ask a childless couple why they don't have kids or when are they going to have kids because it was very impolite. My mother used to say "you don't know their situation."
I wonder if he's ever presented his hole....
Thee's no justice in the world when Santorum, the Duggars and Romney have a truckload of offspring, but a Jon Hamm has none.
We have been trying to become pregnant for decades but as soon after conceptia we sit on the poopoo we suffer a mis-carriage!
I knew an intelligent and educated young couple, they both got fixed, so that they wouldn't have children.
He is so full of himself and he's just an actor!
Translation: I'm too selfish to have kids.
Thank you, R78.
Oh please. When his career is lagging in 4 years, he'll adopt some employee from a Chinese restaurant.
You are welcome, R79. I love translating celebrity statements.
That what he says NOW because his gf is too old to have children. However, when he starts going into FILMS as he should, right now he's holding himself back, again, I think he knows that when he becomes a bigger star it will be the end of him and his gf, anyways (sorry for the run ons, lots of thoughts here), he will find another female, younger, and will have kids with her.
"Thank goodness his 15 minutes are almost up."
Typed by someone who's never had one.
"And your use of the word invalid is apppauling."
Oh my fucking god.
Too bad he's not passing on those big dick genes for future generations.
"However, when he starts going into FILMS as he should, right now he's holding himself back, again, I think he knows that when he becomes a bigger star it will be the end of him and his gf, anyways (sorry for the run ons, lots of thoughts here), he will find another female, younger, and will have kids with her."
Who knows if he can make a transition into films, he may not translate.
Old men should stop fathering children; the father's advanced age is directly related to an increased rate of autism and other diseases in children.
1 in 88, children born with autism. I think it has something to do with old sperm.
I really like him and I like him better, everytime I see him.
His girlfriend isn't too old to have children; it wouldn't be the easiest thing in the word, but it's def possible. They've been together a long time - if they really wanted kids, they would have made it happen by now. I take them at their word that they're not interested.
[quote]"However, when he starts going into FILMS as he should, right now he's holding himself back, again, I think he knows that when he becomes a bigger star it will be the end of him and his gf, anyways (sorry for the run ons, lots of thoughts here), he will find another female, younger, and will have kids with her."
He will not become a bigger star in his forties. Much like Tony Soprano, people are fascinated by the Don Draper character. People will always want to see him in a suit.
But I think Jon Hamm works on movies all the time, he just isn't the lead. I hope he finds something interesting soon. He seems to like comedy.
[quote]Old men should stop fathering children; the father's advanced age is directly related to an increased rate of autism and other diseases in children.[/quote]
Is there actual evidence to support this? Because the people I know with autistic children are young couples, not old.
All these people chattering on about autism really need to read my book!
We have no idea what that bulge is in Jon's pants, Miss r32, but it sure does NOT look like a pinga.
[quote]More often than not having children is the most selfish thing a person can do. Having children to fill a hole in your life or to give you something you weren't able to get on your own steam is the very definition of narcissism and selfishness.
Exactly. The smartest parents I know only have one child, or choose to adopt. Childfree By Choice is a growing movement.
[quote]Is there actual evidence to support this? Because the people I know with autistic children are young couples, not old.
There has been research in recent years linking fathers' older ages to defects and diseases, including autism. Studies show that sperm quality begins to decline after age 35. I know there are a lot of guys who want to believe that they're in their prime in their late 30s, 40s and beyond, but biologically speaking, that's simply not true.
[quote]They've been together a long time - if they really wanted kids, they would have made it happen by now. I take them at their word that they're not interested.
Yeah, I know women like her... waiting waiting, then they wake up one morning and they've wasted their youth waiting for some guy to come around.
He's not stupid, so why would he buy the cow when he's getting the milk for free?
She has only a tiny amount of time left to have a child, and the risks are very high after 40. She's not getting one from him for sure.
"So if a nerve was touched, so be it."
LOL. My dear, the hostility from some people in this thread.
Sweetie, we just can't go around making up our own definitions for words. If you're going to try and present a somewhat intelligent argument, then you should at the very least be familiar with the definitions of the words you're trying to use. Okay?
Let's take a gander at SELFISH, hmm?
1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.
2. characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.
One could easily make the case that Hamm's decision is selfish. I'D be a terrible father. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't he have a significant other?
A more appropriate and non-selfish response would be to say "Both my wife and I have come to the conclusion that we would not be good parents". Less ego-centric and shows the public that you are not only concerned with yourself, but with those around you.
But if your content in your decisions, I really don't understand the need to broadcast your reasons why you came to them to the world. I highly doubt the public was so concerned about this, a simple "That's a private matter, let's move on." would have sufficed.
As for IRONIC, we'll tackle that some other time, mmmkay?
Frankly your post and the MENSA grad at R49 reek of utter desperation, with a tinge of anger. Please don't come at someone simply because they're smarter than you. It's nowhere near impressive. And the attempts to shame gays and lesbians over this reek of desperation.
Class is over for today.
r98, please calm down. Whatever your actual intellectual gifts are, your argument here, both in content and style is representative of the garden variety hysteric.
Please try to understand that Jon Hamm does not control the way soundbites travel across cyber space.
He certainly doesn't owe you a full accounting of his reasons or his significant other's agreement or lack of agreement with his decision.
Surely even in your highly agitated state you can understand the simple concept the people can have or not have children for selfish reasons.
Having children does not make you selfless and not having children does not make you selfish.
And btw, I think you have given a sufficient demonstration of irony in action, so no need to burden yourself with another trip to the dictionary.
I would love to see Jon Hamm and Elias Koteas compare their virile middle-aged bulges!
To the person who said that the couples they know with autistic children are young...just wondering, did they have their children the old fashioned way?
Westfeldt's close with a lot of the theatre lezzies, they love her. Always assumed she was at least bi to get such effusive praise. I'd be so unsurprised if she were bearding for him.
[quote]I would love to see Jon Hamm and Elias Koteas compare their virile middle-aged bulges!
Oh, look who it is.
"Please try to understand that Jon Hamm does not control the way soundbites travel across cyber space."
Well a "no comment" or "I'm not going to discuss it" would not have produced any soundbites. Just saying.
"He certainly doesn't owe you a full accounting of his reasons or his significant other's agreement or lack of agreement with his decision."
Uh, okay, that's what I had already stated in my previous post. Your point?
"Having children does not make you selfless and not having children does not make you selfish."
I agree with you. And vice-versa. Again, what's your point? I'm merely pointing out the way some people on this thread are choosing to define the word SELFISH and using it for their own agenda.
"And btw, I think you have given a sufficient demonstration of irony in action, so no need to burden yourself with another trip to the dictionary."
LOL okay. Can't be sufficient enough if you have trouble explaining how. If this is supposed to be an insult, it's incredibly weak.
You're really making no sense at all. You seem to be criticizing my post and calling me "hysterical", yet you agree with me on half the points. The rest is just rambling verbiage with no depth. It's all over the place.
The people who would be, or who are terrible fathers would never say: "I'd be a terrible father."
um, r104 are you somebody's parent?
[R91]: the research on this is still in its infant stage. I'm sure the more research is done, the more apparent and manifold risks will be uncovered in connection with old/er men fathering children.
"People will always want to see him in a suit."
Or just a pair of OTC socks and a skimpy, tight pair of black bikini briefs.
So the girlfriend is basically saying she always wanted kids, thinks she is probably going to regret having none, but is living in denial of all that because she figured it's not worth leaving her hot jerk over. I see this ending well!