Capitol%20Connexion- it never ends.........
- This is wonderful news!!! For the obvious reasons, true, but also, it's a demonstration of your resourcefulness OP, that you would take advantage of the drunken carousing of St. Patrick's day to mine and exploit careless friends for gossip. This is in the true spirit and tradition of DL, and I applaud you!
I wish more DLers would take advantage in such situations.I have only one question. Were you sober enough to accurately absorb the information? And if you were, why weren't you drunk?
- Aaron Schock and who?
- Schock and Cantor, with Boehner as the cuckhold.
Love%20the%20use%20of%20Connexion%2C%20btw.
- Figured it out myself. Schock just endorsed Adam Kinzinger in his battle against Don Manzullo. I hope this BI is true. But if it is, who is the top - Schock or Kinzinger? I"m betting Kinzinger.
R3
- R2, I would never exploit friends, only obnoxious douchebags with loose lips. Besides, I'll promise nothing more than a mere confirmation once all the relevant players have been correctly identified.
One additional tidbit to consider: Congressman Bottom was encouraged to run for his first term by a politician many assume is a closet case.
OP
- I love it: Congressman Bottom!
- I'm betting the politician many assume is a closet case is DL favorite, Mark Kirk, who was semi-outed previously online. I hope OP isn't just making this up (or that Manzullo's people aren't making it up). Kinzinger is engaged to be married to a woman.
- great thread
- I'm slow this morning. The BI itself indicates that Kinzinger is the bottom and Schock is the top. Go figure - I thought Schock would be heels to Jesus.
R3/5/8
- Mark Kirk is a senator not a congressman, so I'd lay money on Schock and Kinzinger. And, after Schock's infamous white pants/turquoise belt pic, we all know he's the bottom.
- Jessica Fletcher would be proud of you all.
OP
- Reader courtesy -- please attach links to pix. TIA
- will they consumate it at the Eagle?
- Adam Kinzinger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kinzinger
- Aaron Schock
http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Daaron+schock%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Dimvnsol%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du%26source%3Duniv%26sa%3DX%26ei%3D8fZlT52IJeHq0gHw1uGACA%26sqi%3D2%26ved%3D0CD8QsAQ%26biw%3D994%26bih%3D608
- Mark Kirk
http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Dmark+kirk%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Dimvnslo%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du%26source%3Duniv%26sa%3DX%26ei%3DNfdlT8zbGOX40gH835j_Bw%26sqi%3D2%26ved%3D0CEYQsAQ%26biw%3D994%26bih%3D608
- Dan Manzullo
http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Dmark+kirk%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Dimvnslo%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du%26source%3Duniv%26sa%3DX%26ei%3DNfdlT8zbGOX40gH835j_Bw%26sqi%3D2%26ved%3D0CEYQsAQ%26biw%3D994%26bih%3D608%23hl%3Den%26tbm%3Disch%26sa%3D1%26q%3Ddan+manzullo%2
- Eric Cantor
http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3Deric+cantor%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1C1CHKZ_enUS432US432%26prmd%3Dimvnsol%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du%26source%3Duniv%26sa%3DX%26ei%3DQvhlT7mKE4aCtgehruT9DQ%26ved%3D0CFYQsAQ%26biw%3D994%26bih%3D608
- Sorry for bad link at r18..here is Don Manzullo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Manzullo
- A Gay Republican Romance? I think that's what Lady Gaga means with 'Bad Romance'.
- As long as we're making a list, here's Adrian Smith, Nebraska's 3rd District:
http://www.ptpblog.com/storage/Adrian%20Smith.gif%3F__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION%3D1292289563930
- Here I am in uniform.
http://mccopundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/ak-onwing-600-x-450.jpg
Adam
- SO many closeted GOP asswipes to choose from.
- OP, this awesome gossip.
Celebrity gossip doesn't do it for me the way political gossip does.
- Good stuff, OP. I'd never heard of Kinzinger before but he definitely has that cookie-sniffer look about him.
I'm still curious about identities of the "lustful mentor" as well as the closet case who encouraged Kinzinger into politics in the first place. Any educated guesses anyone?
- Could be, again, quite a few people.
Lindsay Graham?
- I can actually see Aaron Schock being a top.
- I pray for some wicked scandal to derail Eric Kantor. He really really is a despicable person. Ambitious and immoral. I hope something comes out and there are photographs!!! Video would be even better.
- what rhymes with Schock, kids?
- Republicans have to be the most hypocritical.
- Congressman Bottom - Adam Kinzinger (IL)
Congressman Top - Aaron Schock (IL)
Troll Closet Mentor - John Shimkus (IL)
Twirling Guest Appearance - Eric Cantor (VA)
The Hand the Rocks the Cradle- Don Manzullo (IL)
- I call BS. This kind of shit never pans out. Nothing will happen. We are projecting
- I call truth, but agree it might never result in outings and losses at the ballot box.
Of course it's not "BS".
- You would think if this were true that there'd be a smear campaign going on at some level, considering how tight the race is. A few gay rumours would shore up Manzullo's position.
- Kirk is not in this at all as he is recovering from a debilitating stroke and can't even masterbate on his own yet.
- I'm from Illinois, so thanks for sharing the gossip. R5, your assessment makes sense.
The redistricting in Illinois is crazy. Rockford and Manteno are nowhere near each other.
It's sad to see so many closeted gay Republicans in one place. Especially when they are young and cute.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kinzinger
Anonymous
- shimkus
http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/99577210.jpg
- The only good thing I can find to say about Kinzinger is at least he hasn't gone the beard-marriage route.
- [quote]It's sad to see any gay Republicans
Fixed it for you, R37.
- damn
- At least part of the BI is wrong, if Congressman Bottom is Adam Kinzinger. No Democrat filed to run in IL-16, so the winner of the Kinzinger/Manzullo primary is basically guaranteed to win in November.
(Frankly it reeks of BS). Whereas everybody has heard about Schock, the only thing I've heard about Kinzinger is that he's a frat-boy player type.
- Log cabinettes aun riot on the DL. Why wouldn't they run riot in DC?
- It's not a "gay scandal" if it only exists in Dataloungeland.
- [quote] It's not a "gay scandal" if it only exists in Dataloungeland.
But I KNOW that I saw Schock and Kinzinger leaving Mrs. Patrick Campbell's Underground Sex Grotto, headed for Andrew Sullivan's Bareback Dungeon!
- Here's a Chicago Tribune story about the candidates.
Have to wonder if this whole "scandal" isn't just made up in somebody's imagination...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-illinois-16th-congressional-district-20120319%2C0%2C4551856.story
Anonymous
- Guuuurrrrllll, what's the T?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GkAyI9u21yE/TeF4Vng16fI/AAAAAAAAxaQ/8tTpJrarXbg/s1600/aaron-schock.jpg
- Kinzinger PINGS
- I think OP meant the democrats will gain seats throughout Illinois due to republicans being on the bad side of Gerrymandered redistricting.
The BI of sorts, is definitly Schock and Kinzinger.
- Isn't it quite possible that this rumor was planted as a campaign dirty trick on behalf of Dan Manzullo?
Then again, Illinois Republicans are oblivious to gay rumors...they elected Mark Kirk and Aaron Schock.
Anonymous
- no
- OP's closet case who encouraged Congressman Bottom to run was State Treasurer and Romney Illinois campaign chief Dan Rutherford
- Damn.
- Monday morning DC staffers' bump.
- This just appeared on Dailykos.com
"This seems pretty remarkable: A week after personally endorsing Adam Kinzinger in the GOP primary, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor's super PAC, the YG Action Fund, is spending $50K to air a last-minute radio ad ahead of Tuesday's election. I thought Cantor's involvement in the race was pretty unusual to begin with, but to fork out actual dollars to help knock off a veteran incumbent, Don Manzullo, seems doubly so. But it also feels like a fairly smart move: If Kinzinger wins this tight, ugly race, he'll owe total loyalty to Cantor for time immemorial."
- Kinzinger pings big time!
http://kinzinger.house.gov/
- I have long suspected Cantor was a self-loathing closet case...
Hmmmmmmmmm.
- If true, it brings self-loathing to a new level. If not, it would make a great screenplay anyway.
- Wait -- so would that make Cantor Congressman Top?
- R59, no. He's not from the "same delegation" as Kinzinger and Schock.
- So he's the "lustful mentor," then? (Sorry -- just trying to keep the cast of characters straight.)
R59
- Are we sure we can't find a spot for Lindsay Graham in this scenario?
The lustful mentor sounds like someone who is old and physically repulsive, which fits Graham much better than Cantor.
- **fingers crossed**
that%20this%20results%20in%20an%20outing
- Lustful mentor is Cantor.
He's the one who is pulling out all the stops to save Kinzinger.
- [quote]Are we sure we can't find a spot for Lindsay Graham in this scenario?
Ewww. No. He looks like a grandmother at this point.
Does he even have any testosterone left?
- I think some testosterone could be mustered for John McCain, r65.
(He's been pining for him for years...)
- Dan Rutherford is not a closet case. He has been out since forever.
- But that makes sense too, r67, since presumably he, being out, would feel free to spread the story if he loses...
- Definitely, R67. I remember his political ads featuring him and his partner and all the times he mentioned in the news and during debates over gay issues that he is gay.
Not%20in%20this%20world.
- Again, that fact only makes this blind item seem all the more probable.
- Interesting: Dan Rutherford, the Illinois state treasurer, is an out-of-the-closet gay Republican who supports the gay agenda in Illinois.
Kudos to him for having the courage to challenge the system from the inside!
But, still not clear how he would be a mentor to two closeted boys representing Illinois in DC...
http://www.thefoldblog.com/2010/12/illinois-general-assembly-approves.html
Anonymous
- maybe he's not the mentor in question
- R71, calling him "out of the closet" is a bit of a stretch. He is quietly known in the community and in certain circles to be gay. But he never mentioned it in his run for state treasurer, nor did he mention it on the floor of the state senate during debate over the civil unions bill. He also was the lone Republican who voted for the bill, so his "challenging the system from the inside" was unable to convince a single member of his party of his position. Of course, if you won't say "gay" out loud and act ashamed of yourself, it's easy for them to consider you shameful.
- But it also means that anybody Rutherford supports is going to be accused of being closeted, especially if it's a hot young guy R68. So I doubt he would get much involved in this little contest.
Dan didn't have to R69, Republican enemies outed him.
Well, maybe he was not out "forever," but sometime between 1983 and 1986.
Dan was sort of closeted in 1983 when I knew him, but not very (his 'fiancee' was safely stashed in far off Atlanta and his engagement did not prevent him from asking guys to room with him - he shared a 39th floor apt at Rush and Oak on a rental basis). By 1986 I saw him bellied up to the bar at the Loading Zone and making passes at men in the bathroom and he could not be said to be closeted. He had a condo in Edgewater then, long before he went downstate to go into State Assembly politics. But Dan couldn't get anywhere in government because Republican Governor Miss Jim Thompson notoriously preferred dumb blond men (Big Jim had the best looking bodyguards I'd ever seen- Janice Dickinson would have been jealous), so Dan tried the private sector for awhile. Much later he buried himself with the enemy downstate and made his own way to the legislature.
Dan was once smart and dynamic and I shudder to think of all the moral compromises he must have made over the years with horrible people who treated him like he smelled bad. I remember having a certain distaste when I read he voted against gay marriage once although I also think he was a lone republican to vote for civil unions another time. But it wasn't a question of secrets: some Christian nutjobs "outed" him years ago to try to derail his career, but it never worked.
If Dan weren't running the Evil Bigot Romney's campaign in Ill. I'd actually feel sorry for him. I can see him mentoring Schock - Dan remained in some young leaders group downstate until he was well past old enough to know better. But aside from gaining some weight, he is really not a hopeless troll - so I'd be very surprised if he were the BI subject and Marzullo couldn't really hope to ruin him anyway. The BI implies it is a Congressman.
If you look at the Republican delegation from Illinois, you have a boatload of gay faces. I'd say Dold, Walsh, and Johnson are too good looking and too young to be the hopeless troll mentor. Shimkus is probably not in a position to "mentor" anyone. Cantor is but I can't see either one of them turning him down since Cantor has real power and is definitely good looking. Hultgren and Schilling fit the gay face troll category; and Roskam doesn't look too gay but he is an older troll who probably thinks he's better looking than he is and well established so I'd lean towards him.
On the other hand Marzullo might have planted this BI because he presumes Cantor's support for Kinzinger is based on some type of lust and the negativity was just a little gratuitous bashing "you're ugly!"
- its
- Cantor is good-looking only in a very dark & ugly deatheater way...
- Very interesting, R75 - thanks for the long-term Illinois perspective. I think Rutherford isn't a bad guy (other than the moral compromises he has made by working for Romney, etc.)
But I just can't call someone "out" (despite them having been "outed" by the right wing) if they won't say they are gay publicly when it matters. I just reviewed Rutherford's floor statement from when he voted for the civil unions bill. He said it was about "fairness" and "the right thing to do". But not a word about the fact the he is gay and had been denied these same rights for so many years. It's a statement like that that could change minds and move votes. I'm not giving someone a 'profile in courage award' for being out if they won't do that.
- R62, the only way to imagine him in this scenario is the way he imagines himself: On a veranda fanning himself, dressed like Scarlett and receiving gentlemen callers.
- Jim Thompson is gay?
- receiving gentlemen callers who all resemble John McCain, okay, yes, I can visualize that!
%3A>
- Hang on. There are STRAIGHT Republicans? Are you sure about that? The Republican Party is like the Opus Dei of the political arena.
- Congressman Top and Congressman Bottom: How Dickensian!
Adam and Aaron: How Biblical!
- Illinois Republicans all turn out gay - in prison that is.
- I concede he doesn't seem to be "proud" R77, but I don't think he's scared. Whatever dumb or self-serving reasons for his actions, he is not in the closet.
- he is in a kind of closet if he didn't say he was gay when he made that speech.
- Fair enough, R84. We just have different definitions of the closet. To me, his is big, portable and made of glass, but a closet no less.
- [quote]Jim Thompson is gay?
Queeny antiquey type. Super trollish.
- He certainly looks pretty queeny here...
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/rsampson/www/Sampson/Obamapix/Obama/101MSDCF/DSC00013.JPG
- It could be Boehner. After all isn't he the one who put Cantor where he is?
Here is Boehner with Schock and Roskam.
http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/0716-gop-jobs-creation-ideas.jpg/8330616-1-eng-US/0716-gop-jobs-creation-ideas.jpg_full_600.jpg
- Thompson married in 1976 at age 40 after the primary election in his first run for Governor but before the general election. He had one child, born during his second gubernatorial election campaign.
- So are we saying that Dan Rutherford is Anderson Cooper style gay? Everyone knows but he's never actually admitted it to anyone?
- OP here.
The successful guesses early on in this thread had me thinking an attempt at a blind item completely failed.
I can't explicitly say which guesses are correct, but the following are wrong:
- John Boehner (although he's not that innocent)
- Lindsay Graham (he considers situations like these toxic)
- Dan Rutherford (dammit Jim he's a friend not a mentor)
OP
- OP, are you in Illinois or DC?
Just%20curious...
- DC
OP
- So it would appear that r32 nailed it.
I hope some #%>¥ really does hit the fan,op....
- OP, based on what you said at R94, I would have to guess that the "lustful mentor" is Senator Mark Kirk.
People working in DC would not be aware of or talking about politicians working at a state or local level.
Anonymous
- When I google Kinzinger and Kirk I see that they had a lot of time together last year doing town halls and such but I don't see where Kirk endorsed him this year.
- But again, how can they ruin Kirk when the whole state was flooded with gay rumours about him during the whole of the last election cycle.
- My post at R92 includes clues, but one of them is misused. It applies more to someone who convinced Congressman Bottom to run for his first term.
OP
- "Dammit Jim" = Captain KIRK
Anonymous
- I can't wait to see them as contestants on RuPaul's Drag Race.
Shangela
- On google it says SENATE Republicans convinced him to run, so that would be Kirk.
So the mentor has to be a Congressman.
- Shimkus endorsed Kinzinger with Cantor.
Shock identified Shimkus as a "potential mentor"
Shimkus is from Collinsville, so we have to hit up the St. Louis gays to spy him out.
Shimkus was involved in the Foley Page scandal as not passing on info!
Shimkus also survived an attempt to gerrymander him out of a district, so he would be a good mento for Kinzinger.
Looks like somebody had a handle on this all along.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Shimkus
- So the two seats endangered by revelations would be Schock and Shimkus, not Kinzinger.
- And Kirk?
- Kirk would be the one who encouraged Kinzinger to run that many assume is a closet case.
- That was in R6.
- Please. Why would anyone think that Schock is a top?
- In Capitol Hill you need to know stuff like that to keep your job!
- I see your point, R108. But "top" is a relative term. Most bottoms can force themselves to top when confronted with a bottom of greater magnitude. Kinzinger must be an uber-bottom.
- Schock looked so chic in his pink shirt, torquoise belt and white slacks. That ain't the outfit of a top.
http://www.bilerico.com/2010/06/rep_aaron_schock_so_not_gay_hell_burn_his_teal_bel.php
- Well excuse me. Schock's belt is not torquoise. As described in the story, it's "teal."
R111. I rest my case.
- Where do the Britney Spears songs fit into this BI?
- They look good together. I can see this happening.
http://sexypoliticians.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/10133_178341281135_62009756135_4285772_6267517_n.jpg
Aunt%20Lindseypat%2C%20fanning%20myself.
- Talk about resembling one another!
siblings
- R114, they should use that as their engagement photo.
Anonymous
- Yeah, that was my reaction to the photo as well. I thought it was one of those pictures you might find in a "Congratulations, Boys!" wedding thread, titled something like "gay congressmen marries himself."
- Lots of drag queens are tops. Just sayin'.
- I just found out Democratic Senator Herb Kohl is gay.
- and??
- Herb Kohl has a 67% on voting issues from HRC.
What score do the republican closet-cases mentioned in this thread have?
- Another beautiful morning in DC, another bump.
- Schilling is far, far less of a troll than Johnson. That had to be a mistake R77.
- Some of this will be resolved after today's IL elections, right?
- Schock was pushing Romney.
- One can understand why the GOP views gays as abnormal. Look at the ones they encounter. There has to be something mentally wrong with those who join a party that genuinely loathes them and will help that party in pushing legislation to make life hell for all gays.
- Kind of a great point, r126.
- Yeah sorry, schilling and johnson reverse them.
- The GOP doesn't like its views to be challenged, so the gays within the group say yes to everything in order to stay in the group or otherwise they would be thrown out into the wild with no benefitial social connections.
- toadies
- The "Tom Cruise of Congress", eh?
http://thehill.com/capital-living/173451-50-most-beautiful-people-2011-washington-congress-capitol%3Fstart%3D4
- Is Kohl out? There are out democrats, but I often wonder how many are closeted.
- Oh, look:
[quote]Kinzinger and his girlfriend met in pilot training, became good friends and started dating about a year ago. She’s still in active duty in the Air Force and is stationed in Charleston, S.C.
Enormously convenient and patriotic sacrifice.
- So his girlfriend's name is Riki Meyer or Meyers. Is that her by Kirk at his swearing in.? Hm.
http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pantagraph.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/9/be/9bed09fa-199f-11e0-9878-001cc4c002e0/4d25ced61f655.image.jpg
- Kinzinger and Schock are hot. I would love to see their video. If the Dems really wanted to advance gay rights, they would do it. They control the US Senate and The White House. Truth is, they have to be re elected so they do nothing and blame the "mean ol republicans". Gays, being the sheep they are, play right along. It's easier to blame republicans than to hold democrats accountable for doing nothing!
- Whew!!
- R135, you're wrong on so many levels. For one thing, the Dems have advanced gay rights. Abolish Don't Ask Don't Tell anyone? The Repubs would have stopped that if they could. The GOP also tries to stop gay appointees, like the gay federal judge confirmed last week, only after Harry Reid forced the GOP to filibuster or get off the pot. And the Dems hardly "control" the Senate in a meaningful way, as long as the GOP has more than 40 seats. The Repubs stop much meaningful change. ENDA would pass if the GOP would stop its opposition, and DOMA would be done. So while the Dems aren't perfect, they are night and day compared to the hateful anti-gay GOP and its closet cases mentioned above.
- Dems get the ball rolling, while the Republicans throw everything including their own grandmas in the way trying to stop it.
This will never see the light of day ... unless Schock and Kitzinger will have threesomes with blabby mouthed hustlers who *crossing fingers* secretly film the encounter(s) as proof.
- Don't ask-Don't tell was a Clinton action. Judges blocked have more to do with their legislating from the bench, versus who they sleep with. I don't have to follow in lock step every gay politician just because he's gay. They can be wrong sometimes also.
- DADT was a compromise Clinton managed to get through since his original idea for the brave gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military was shot down by the Republicans (otherwise how could they use gays as scapegoats for their numerous agendas when there are gay and lesbian military heroes known to the general public?).
- "Judges blocked have more to do with their legislating from the bench, versus who they sleep with."
The recent round of judges blocked by Republicans actually had widespread support and were not opposed for "legislating from the bench" or any other substantive reason. When Reid finally forced a vote, the gay judge even received the votes of most Republicans - he was confirmed by a vote of something like 93 to 7, with only seven of the most virulent homophobes in the republican party voting against him. But the GOP had held up his nomination for almost 2 years.
- Who are the two gay legislators?
- And you are right that DADT was a Clinton action. But in context, the GOP just wanted to keep an outright ban on gays in the military. Clinton wanted to allow gays in. DADT was an attempt by Clinton and the Dems to at least allow gays in the military if they were quiet about it. It was a failed attempt and misguided, but you have to acknowledge that it came about only because hateful conservatives wanted to keep gays out.
- You have to acknowledge that if you have half a brain, yes. Which r139 doesn't seem to.
- [quote]Don't ask-Don't tell was a Clinton action.
Clinton wanted gays to be allowed to openly serve in the military. Democratic Senator Sam Nunn led the contingent that favored maintaining the absolute ban on gays. Congressional phone lines were flooded by organized anti-gay opposition.
Congress rushed to enact the existing total gay ban policy into federal law, outflanking Clinton's planned repeal effort. Clinton called for legislation to overturn the ban, but encountered intense opposition from members of Congress, and hate-mongering portions of the public. DADT emerged as a compromise policy so Clinton signed it.
DADT was a step away from the total ban.
For those of us serving on active duty at that time, DADT was a positive move forward and we appreciate Clinton's attempt to eliminate the total ban. Having served under the old system as well as under DADT, the latter was a welcome change in that era.
Naturally, most Rethulicunts have always fought against gays in the military, but if all the Democrats in Congress had supported lifting the ban on gays in the military, it would have been gone two decades ago.
The Servicemembers Legal Defense Network was founded in 1993 to advocate an end to discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in the U.S. Armed Forces. SLDN's work is just as important today as it was when we started the job in '93.
- This should put things into context for you...
Kinzinger Defeats Manzullo in Illinois's 16th Congressional District Primary
March 20, 2012
http://news.yahoo.com/kinzinger-defeats-manzullo-illinoiss-16th-congressional-district-primary-230531243.html
Anonymous
- [quote]Kinzinger is all but assured of a return to Congress; no Democrats filed to run in the 16th District.
Wow, just wow. The district is so far right that the Dems don't even bother?
[quote]But the script flipped here, with 10-term veteran Manzullo garnering the bulk of the tea party and movement conservative support while Kinzinger, a freshman, lined up more establishment backing, including an endorsement from House Majority Leader Eric Cantor last week.
Like the players on Survior and The Amazing Race say: This was a total Game Change!
But it looks like Kinzinger didn't pander to the Tea Party crowd which makes him look like a more moderate Republican, right?
Cantor really threw himself into hot water for Kitzinger. Kitzinger should let Cantor at least suck his cock for that win.
- ok, so now what?
Manzullo spills the beans?
- This thread proves any legislative action can be rationalized if it fits your agenda. DADT was a comprimise for BOTH sides of the aisle. I worked on the hill from the late 90's thru 2006. If people think that all members of congress with a "D" behind their name, are for gay rights...they are sadly mistaken. I have been in the room during conversations about being able to put issues on the table that they know won't pass and blaming Republicans at the same time. This is fact, not "I've heard" etc. Both parties play this game. It's the same old song and dance...."don't judge us by our actions...just our intentions"
- r149, do intentions and personal issues really matter when the end results benefit the Gay community? Can the Gay community really be that picky?
Is there really a point of cheering and supporting gay Republicans who throw the gay community under the bus with their anti gay voting records? Should they at least recieve a 'gold star' for not being too smug about it?
- Ahem, it was...
Don't Ask
Don't Tell
Don't Pursue.
Everyone seems to forget the last part.
THAT was Clinton's compromise but the military conveniently forgot the DON'T PURSUE thingy.
As soon as they found out that is all they did.
- r149, YES some democrats are antigay or afraid to be courageous.
But the Democratic platform and party is not anywhere CLOSE to being anti-gay as the Republicans, so the "they are BOTH bad" argument is ridiculous.
- What was he doing walking around downtown Milwaukee?
- Back to the blind item:
" If Congressman Bottom's opponent--who enjoys the support of most of his colleagues--loses, the story will spread faster than the Great Chicago Fire. "
SO. WILL it spread faster than the great chicago fire??
Or not.
Manzullo%20lost
- If it's true, then come out and say who they are.
If you don't spell it out, then it has all the earmarks of a fake smear campaign.
- Dea
- Yeah, now that Congressman bottom beat Manzullo, we're waiting...
- still waiting....
- ...and waiting...
- ...OP?...
- In other news, Aaron Schock is in trouble for charging expenses for a trip to Greece and fitness tapes to his campaign account.
http://m.pjstar.com/jstar/db_/contentdetail.htm%3Fcontentguid%3DgPe4RUjG%26full%3Dtrue%23display
- [quote] If Congressman Bottom's opponent--who enjoys the support of most of his colleagues--loses, the story will spread faster than the Great Chicago Fire.
Manzullo lost about a week ago, and I haven't heard this story from any other source yet. The Great Chicago Fire spread in less than six days, didn't it?
- OP?
- I think we should file this post under "wishful fantasy gossip."
Anonymous
- The Republicans will always have gay scandals. It's the party of closet cases and hate-mongering fundies.
- [quote]It could be Boehner. After all isn't he the one who put Cantor where he is?
Umm, no. Almost always, the number two member of a party leadership in Congress is the bitter rival of the number one who was the runner-up in the leadership vote, often (as is the case with Cantor) , lurking for an opportunity to move in for the kill.
- true, but boehner pings to me.
- The next chapter in Schock-Kinzinger-Cantor makes me think OP's BI may be halfway legit.
"Ray Allen, Cantor’s political consultant, said in a written statement that Cantor’s donation to CPA had been earmarked expressly for use in the Illinois race and not in any other contests. Allen also said that Cantor had made the contribution after being approached by Rep. Aaron Schock, an Illinois Republican who also supported Kinzinger and who had asked Cantor to donate to CPA.
“On Thursday, March 15, 2012, Leader Cantor was asked by Congressman Schock to contribute to an organization that was supporting Adam Kinzinger in the Illinois election of March 20,” Allen wrote. “EricPAC subsequently made a contribution with the understanding that those funds would be used only in the effort to support Congressman Kinzinger. Leader Cantor does not support the actions of this organization in any other election.”
Why was Cantor so concerned about Kinzinger losing his primary fight that he was willing to piss off all the other Republicans in Congress by supporting him to such an extent? And that he and Schock apparently conspired to hide his extra support through this other front group? Scandal!!!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/74926_Page2.html
- Well, we're several weeks post-election, and nary a word out there about Kinzinger and Schock. Sounds to me like OP got punked by a Manzullo staffer.
- You're all wrong about Schock losing reelection if he's outed. I live in his Peoria District and stories about his personal life have been well known even before his first election win.People here just like him and his conservative views fit the Republicans here. There's no anti-Gay backlash against him--never has been.
- R170 -- so what you're saying is that you have a lot of closeted homophobic republicans there?
Anonymous
- R170 Tell us more.
- [quote]It could be Boehner. After all isn't he the one who put Cantor where he is?
The only thing Boehner gets a boner for is bourbon.
- and tanning beds.
- Don't wait for any revelations from Larry Flynt. He still hasn't delivered on his promise to out gay Republicans right after the 2010 election.
- is Douglas Holtz-Eakin on our team? i've always wondered.
- [quote]The only thing Boehner gets a boner for is bourbon
If Boehner likes the bourbon that much, he's not getting boners anymore.
- This guy was recruited by Schock for the Illinois legislature. I can see him being a furry cub with Schock working him over in the field.
http://www.brownforillinois.com/media-gallery/
Moi
- Well r178, that guy is trying to get himself appointed to replace retiring Tim Johnson as the Republican nominee for the congressional district right next to Schock's. Maybe they can rent an apartment in DC together.
- Hideous. Aaron must stay away from Cornfed.
- Looks like Baby is getting backed into a corner! Schock probably wishes he had kept his mouth (and other holes) shut!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75745.html
- Check out the pink pansies on his tie. Is he wearing the turquoise belt, too? Who's going to kick down his closet door?
http://images.politico.com/global/2012/04/120430_aaron_schock_605_ap.jpg
- Do you think...?
- Aaron Shock got a sweater for his birthday even though he really wanted a moaner.
- Politico? Boy there's a real even handed source. Same as Fox News.
- One of the news people has floated the idea of Rutherford for Governor. He went swimming in the coral reef at the Shedd Aqarium last week.
- R176 - I know Holtz-Eakin is married, hence the hyphenated name, but that's all I know.
- Swimming at the Shedd?
I%20didn%27t%20know%20you%20could%20do%20that...
- What scandal? Is there a scandal?
- Dan in the tank playing with gravel.
Apparently he's calling himself ROOOTHerferd these days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtXjOyDPCNEc
- The only sex scandal I know of if in North Carolina
Executive Director of the Democratic party accused of sexually harassing a male staffer
He gave his "girlfriend" HIV
Coverup by head of the party and the unpopular governor
Goodbye to that swing state
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-24/politics/31391098_1_sexual-harassment-scandal-harassment-issue
- Is that fit-fat I see in r190s link?
- More like "middle-aged semi-closeted fat", R192.
- [R178] This guy has tard face!
- Just saw Adam Kinzinger on 60 Minutes. He's a short little thing, just like Aaron!
Anonymous
- r195, I'm recording "60 Minutes" now. Was Adam in the Raptor story?
- Yes, he was in the first story about the fighter plane.
R195
- Now there's a new Republican scandal -- Mitt Romney was a gay basher when he was in high school.
- We already know what the Log Cabin Republicans think of Obama's move to support gay marriage, because they are out (though not proud...).
But I would love to hear what closeted gays like Aaron Schock think about it.
Anonymous
- Let's hear what Aaron Schock thinks about Mitt's gay bashing.
- Looks like Rove is about to be outed as the self-hating gay queen that he is.
http://www.peterbcollins.com/2012/06/27/breaking-karl-roves-rant-on-fox-may-have-been-triggered-by-his-concern-over-being-outed-as-bisexual/
- The Democratic challenger to U.S. Rep. Robert Aderholt (R-Alabama) has outed him on Facebook. Aderholt voted against the repeal of DODT and the passage of the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act.
Aderholt's gayitude has long been an open secret in Alabama politics. An old friend of my partner's went to college with him and says he walked in on Miss Thing getting spit-roasted by two black guys in his dorm room.
http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx%3Fid%3D13329
- "The Democratic challenger to U.S. Rep. Robert Aderholt (R-Alabama) has outed him on Facebook. Aderholt voted against the repeal of DODT and the passage of the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act."
I remember reading about Aderholt YEARS ago on the datalounge. It was in one of those "closeted politicians" threads. Obviously someone knew something...
- These stories about gay Pubbies never go anywhere. Larry Flynt said he would out gays in Congress after the election four years ago.
Waiting!