- I doubted you, OP. Then I saw your link.
Now I'm a believer.
- British. Drunk.
- Who gets his locker?
- Heart Attack Face.
- OMG, has anyone checked in on Marsha Brady?
How's she holding up?
Sam, dicking the counter boy.
- Oh man that sucks. I had the biggest crush on him when I was a kid.
- R2 I was thinking the same. I'm surprised it was a heart and not a liver/renal failure.
- He had a hot ass but he couldn't live forever.
- CNN doesn't have it yet.
- I'm thinking of his Brady Bunch episode now. RIP.
- He was kinda cute back in the day.
Loved his vocals on "Daydream Believer".
- On the recommendation of DL, I checked out Antenna TV and just watched a few episodes of The Monkees this week. Davy was adorable.
- Time for the celebrity death trolls to clog up Facebook with their RIP's, fond memories of Davey's impact on their lives, and bemoaning how nothing will ever be the same.
In a related story, Zsa Zsa hums along............
- I knew people would find a way to make this thread about Marcia. No feeling for Davy himself. It turns into how MARCIA is going to react. Why is everyone always so concerned about her? MARCIA MARCIA MARCIA
- He had "the crease" -- a vertical crease in your earlobe that is a "body quirk" and predictor of coronary artery disease. If you're in your 40s or 50s check your earlobes for a crease. If you have one, find a cardiologist and get a stress test. It's easy to prevent and stents make heart surgery practically outpatient procedures these days.
- RIP Davy. You were very entertaining.
- Yep R15, very true. And it will be a legion of middle aged frauen and any snark or funny comments about him will be flamed as being "too soon" and "insensitive".
- He was living in the racist part of Florida.
- I'm crushed. Been a huge fan since Day 1. :(
- Oh I remember when I was working at Warner's Davy Jones ignored me. A great personal friend....zzzzzzz
- I am devastated!
- "Last Train to Clarksville" for sure, R24.
- At last Doug Simpson is still alive!!!
- So fucking hot.
- He was so DREAMY!
I'm crying as I type!
- They've already had a reading of his last will and testament. He left his teeth to a needy, inner-city horse.
- PS - In honor of Davy's passing, Mike Nesmith's mom is offering free bottles of White Out so you can update your address books once you send your sympathy cards.
- Daydream Believer was playing on the radio when I lost my virginity..it wasn't my choice.
I still hate you Jay.
- Died from embarrassment.
- Davy Jones, along with the rest of the original Broadway cast of Oliver!, was on the Beatles' first Ed Sullivan appearance.
- Artfully dodging the grim reaper no more.
- W&W for r29!!! I Love you! j'adore!
- [italic]OMG, has anyone checked in on Marsha Brady?
How's she holding up?[/italic]
I love you!!!
- How many of the famous Monkees songs did he actually do the main vocals for other than "Daydream Believer"? Usually it was actually Mickey Dolenz... I always thought he and Mike Naismith were the real talents.
- I wasn't really a fan of the Monkees and never watched their show, but I did love Davy Jones in that Brady Bunch episode, he was so cute and sweet. RIP.
- Rip. u were my fav monkee
- Why couldn't it have been Micky Dolenz? He's such an egomaniac and so fug
- r20, other than Miami Beach is there a non racist part of Florida?
- At least his family will only have to grieve the anniversary of his passing every 4 years.
- What R39 said.
- I was too much into Paul McCartney and David McCallum to notice The Monkees. That is, until I saw him on that Brady episode. Such a hottie.
- You suck for making me laugh, #42.
- Oh no! I loved those guys. I went to one of their 80's reunion shows when I was a kid, and was obsessed with their reruns on MTV. Davy was always the cutest, by far (although Mickey was my favorite.)
- He was also my first crush - at the tender age of 5! My sister, who was older than me, had all their albums. I still have a few Monkee songs on my iPod.
- Damn you, r42. I laughed out loud too.
RIP, Davy. You brought much joy to millions. I loved your single, "I Want to be Free".
- My thoughts exactly, R40. Mickey was an insufferable ham and looked like he'd been hit in the face with a shovel. Davey, on the other hand, was cute, cute, cute. I wanted to be him.
- In 2008, Yahoo Music named Davy Jones the top teen idol of all time.
Ain't that the truth. The Monkees were huge. But Jones was in another stratosphere in popularity.
- He always looked like a 12 year old girl
- Always loved this version of Riu Chiu they did on a Christmas show. You can hear the best of all of their voices in the harmony:
The Monkees - Riu Chiu
- Out of my way ladies. Peter Tork needs some comforting!
- amen, r55. Davey was cute, but Peter was my passion!
- I wanna be free,
Like the bluebirds flying by me
Like the waves out on the blue sea.
If your love has to tie me, dont try me,
I wanna be free,
Dont say you love me say you like me,
But when I need you beside me,
Stay close enough to guide me, confide in me,
I wanna hold yur hand,
Walk along the sadn
Laughing in the sun,
Always having fun
Doing all those things
Without any strings
To tie me down.
I wanna be free,
Like the warm september wind, babe,
Say youll always be my friend, babe.
We can make it to the end, babe,
Again, babe, I gotta say:
I wanna be free
I wanna be free
I wanna be free
- I am stunned - I saw him last night in a BBC programme I recorded over the weekend, about boybands, and he was interviewed in it, and I thought he looked great, fit and tanned, at 66 [my age now] - as the Monkees tv show was always on during my teen years. The programme showed clips of him too in "Coronation Street" when he was a kid.
- Seen Peter Tork lately? Or within the past 20 years?
- We here in England were worried about the health of that Bee Gee (Robin?) who has been battling cancer, now it turns out the little Monkee has gone first - he seems to have had a comfortable retirement though.
- I liked Nesmith and his silly hat.
- Loved them. Loved that silly ass show. My first celebrity obsession. So sad. My childhood silliness, gone.
I'm inordinately distressed about this.
- Peter Tork also battled cancer. Would have thought he'd be the first Monkee to go.
- r37, he did a number of them. Mickey could play and Mike wrote their best hits but Davy's voice was a great asset. He was the perfect personality for their genre.
Their greatest hits are one of my play-all collections.
- [quote]Seen Peter Tork lately? Or within the past 20 years?
He's 70 and he's been battling cancer. He was looking great until about 10 years ago. I love older men with beards.
- I call dibs on his lockr!!!
- Death . . . look what you've done to me.
- Rip davy. No one was better at 60s candy coated pop than the monkees! Loved him on that brady bunch episode too.
- Davy was cute, but I loved quirky Peter Tork - I presume they all made enough money in royalties to have comfortable retirements.
Did Jones actually do anything in recent years careerwise ?
- I wonder if David Bowie will take his original name back now.
- wow, r17, I'd never heard of that ear crease thing before. you're totally right; he had it!
- Who's going to take me to the prom now???
- That's too bad.
Good luck to him.
- "I Wanna Be Free"
- Thanks for the link, R54, I've never seen that. It was beautiful.
- R60 how is the gibb doing
- Robin Gibb looked dreadful until recently, but seems to have improved lately, so who knows. He is a more anonymous figure though than Davy Jones who would have a much bigger fanbase.
- Cause of death: Major case of Britface.
- I do believe Brittface is a thing, I can always tell when I'm looking at a British person even before they speak. It has nothing to do with their teeth either.
- R79, what constitutes 'Britface' to you?
- Daydream believer, and an old closet queen!
- [quote]Mickey could play and Mike wrote their best hits but Davy's voice was a great asset. He was the perfect personality for their genre.
Their greatest hits are one of my play-all collections.
Hate to break it to you r64 but none of the Monkees actually wrote any of their best hits. Most if not all were written by professional songwriters like Boyce and Hart and Neil Diamond.
Mike Nesmith was generally believed to have the most actual musical talent but the Monkees were mostly just actors who found fame as the first made-for-tv pop band.
Huge teen idols, yes, but no more talented than any other contemporary, manufactured Boy Band.
Still, RIP Davy Jones. It was a good run while it lasted.
- R80, Christopher Hitchens had that kind of look.
- [quote]how is the gibb doing
Not R60, but I know Robin's son, Spencer. he lives out in Austin. Great guy and talented in his own right. Robin had a growth on his colon removed last month and is doing much, much better.
I don't think Spencer will mind me sharing this pic.
- R79 Has a point. I can't see the "Brit Face" thing. But I can always tell when I'm talking to a Somalian. I call it Som Face. I'm never wrong.
- [quote]He was living in the racist part of Florida.
He didn't live in Florida, he lived in Pa on a horse ranch. He boarded some horses in Florida.
- I grew up loving them on afternoon reruns, got to college and saw HEAD at a midnight movie. For some reason it really upset me and I never liked them anymore after that.
- R85, it's also known as 'rapeface'.
- The Monkees were planning on doing another reunion tour as recently as 2011 but it all fell apart at the last minute. At the time it was blamed on in-fighting among the 3 guys. I wonder if it was really cancelled due to health concerns.
That Was Then, This Is Now
- Britface: Skin that looks both dry and greasy at the same time. Ditto the hair. Strange colored lips. Looks like it smokes and drinks too much.
- Piers Morgan just tweeted:
So sad to hear about #DavyJones - The Monkees was my favourite TV show as a kid. Will speak exclusively to Mickey Dolenz tonight. CNN 9pm/ET
- Look Out (Here Comes Tommorow) is one of my favorite songs. I can't listen to it without tapping my foot and bobbing my head along. So much fun.
- Will there be a four hour funeral, flags at half staff and a day of mourning like Whitney? I hope he at least gets the gold hearse.
- Piers never misses a trick does he, with that fake sentiment ...
- Statement by Peter Tork:
”It is with great sadness that I reflect on the sudden passing of my long-time friend and fellow-adventurer, David Jones. His talent will be much missed; his gifts will be with us always. My deepest sympathy to Jessica and the rest of his family. Adios, to the Manchester Cowboy. Peace and love, Peter T.”
- r82, I said that Mike Nesmith wrote some of the best songs--, not the most popular. That of course is my own opinion. I never denied they were a boy-band but they did play their own instruments, even if they had to be trained just like the rest of the boy bands. They were good for their genre.
Here's a list of all the song Nesmith wrote. They appeared mostly on later albums and weren't widely known as the Corporate sponsored hits but they're some of my favorite songs.
Most of them appear on Headquarters, which was my favorite album.
Papa Gene's Blues,
Sweet Young Thing,
The Kind of Girl I Could Love,
You Told Me,
You Just May Be the One,
The Girl I Knew Somewhere,
Don't Call on Me,
Auntie's Municipal Court,
Don't Wait for Me,
While I Cry,
Good Clean Fun,
Never Tell a Woman Yes,
Listen to the Band,
My Share of the Sidewalk,
Nine Times Blue,
All the King's Horses,
Some of Shelly's Blues,
The Crippled Lion,
Little Red Rider,
- "Did Jones actually do anything in recent years careerwise?"
Touring with the oldies circuit.
He was due to appear here in LA if I recall, and soon. Don't have time to look it up but I'm sure I saw his pic in the paper within the last week.
- Remember when their 80s revival (thanks to MTV) inspired the creation of The New Monkees? Bleh!
I really like the song "She" among many, many others. Great music and a funny TV show.
- Of course not, R93. They had to elevate her.
- He has been touring and performed just last week sometime. There's youtube video somewhere.
- His daughter was on General Hospital.
- Nesmith wrote "Different Drum" which was a hit for Linda Ronstadt/Stone Ponies.
- The Monkees' FBI file. Damn subversives.
- Just actors or no, I personally thought Davy had a terrific voice and was multi talented. And no--I'm not his mother.
- "Daddy's Song," from HEAD always cracks me up.
DJ & Toni Basil dancing like mad.
Supposedly when they screened the film for the studio execs this scene gave at least one of them a seizure.
- R94. Keep in mind that Piers Morgan will be speaking with Mickey Dolenz "exclusively" tonight. Mickey is an impossible "get." You have no idea the strings Piers had to pull to make it happen.
- Piers had a live interview scheduled tonight with Prince William and Kate Middleton, but cancelled it when he learned Dolenz was available.
- Love that song, R102. Didn't know Mike wrote it.
- Saw him play the Artful Dodger in OLIVER! at Starlight Theatre. Talented man. RIP.
- Is Kevin Costner going to speak at his funeral?
- [quote]Oh I remember when I was working at Warner's Davy Jones ignored me. A great personal friend....zzzzzzz
LOL, I love you Mr. emmm... Connenema ;)
and I miss you.
hamburgers on the couch
- Mickey will undoubedly wear a weird hat on CNN.
- Aww. They were definitely an "assembled" group, but they had some charm. Davy was the one who had been a musical theater actor; Mickey was a child actor, Peter was an actual hippie (who was one of Janice Joplin's boyfriends, no less) and Mike seemed to be an actual musician. Whose mother invented Liquid Paper. So I guess he was a RICH musician. (Wasn't he also someone who was pretty instrumental in developing the modern form of music videos?)
- We used to live in same building with Micky.
It was a Mitchell Lama project and Micky's gf lived there. The building owners opted out of the Mitchell Lama program and turned the building into luxury condos. Insiders could buy at a reduced rate. Most everyone bought at a reduced rate. I figured Dolenz and his gf bought their aparment, since they had a baby by that time.
People who didn't buy their apartments had 4 choices:
1.) move somewhere else
2.) continue to rent their apartment -- but at market rate. The building owned the apartment and could sell it when you moved.
3.) flip their apartment -- allow someone else to buy their apartment at market rate but keep the difference between the insider price and the market price
4.) continue renting at a reduced rate with a subsidy from the city, but you had to prove there was no way you could pay market rate.
The 4th option was very difficult to prove. You had to supply the building owners with your W2s every year, and children's birth certificates if you had children. There was very strict criteria. If you were single, you had to practically be living under the poverty level to qualify. Neighbors of ours had two children; the wife worked sporadically as a book illustrator, the husband was chronically unemployed. They made less than $35,000 and they qualified for subsidized rent.
Turns out that Micky and his gf were living there under option 4. They weren't married and did not claim to live together, so only the gf's salary was taken into account when calculating eligibility for reduced rent. She stopped working when she had the baby --- or at least wasn't working fulltime, because I saw her every day and I wasn't working (we bought our apartment). Micky would go off and do a musical stage show somewhere for a few months, so he didn't qualify as a fulltime household member. I remember he did Aladdin and something else for a while.
Can you believe that Micky Dolenz was practically a welfare cheat?
He got a job with WCBS radio, but it was short-lived and he lost the job when all the DJs got canned one day.
I moved in 2005. I don't think he lives in the building anymore.
- what R108 said..
- [quote] Mickey will undoubedly wear a weird hat on CNN.
Dolenz would deliberately look away from people in the hallway waiting for the elevator if they seemed to recognize him. As if he was disgusted by the attention. But he was the only person in the building who was about 6'4'' tall and wore A GIGANTIC BLACK HAT.
"Stop noticing me! It's not like I stand out or anything. Stop noticing me and then remembering that hey, I look like somebody famous... whatshisname.. that guy... oh yeah, the Monkee...don't look at me despite the fact that I am taking up a very large amount of air space in this elevator with my freaking huge hat."
- R114, is the building near Madison Square Park or Gramercy Park? I see Mickey all the time in the neighborhood.
- The 3 guys did do part of their tour last year, I saw them at Chumash Casino. No Mike Nesmith.
They played about 45 songs in 2 hours. Davy played the 'I'm adorable' card, and the other guys played along with it too. (And he was!). Mickey seemed to have taken his happy pills, just a grinning idiot the entire time, but did play a lot. And Peter did the most talking, told a lot of their history, and had kind of a snarky sense of humor. As part of their show they played the entire soundtrack of Head. They had 4 more dates, then cancelled the tour.
There were a lot of people in the audience who brought their original vinyl records with them, it was kind of endearing to see.
All Davy Jones and David McCallum all the time in 1966!
- [quote] is the building near Madison Square Park or Gramercy Park? I see Mickey all the time in the neighborhood
No. I moved from the building in 2005 and I think he moved out sometime after that
- [quote]Is Kevin Costner going to speak at his funeral?
No. Kevin Costner is only close to people he pretended to have a romance with(for work) during four months of his life twenty years ago.
- Why couldn't he have fallen out of a tree or choked/slipped on a banana?
- see you on the other side bro
- R121, that sounds more like something that would've happened to Whitney Houston.
- Neil Diamond wrote their best song!
I'm a Believer
- [quote]He had a hot ass but he couldn't live forever.
Have you been asked to give the eulogy?
- Hee hee hee, R67. That song is so lame.
My cousin saw them in concert at the peak of their fame (unfortunately not when Hendrix opened for them). She said they were horrible and she never liked them again after that.
Their records still hold up though. RIP.
- W&W R125.
- A nice Facebook message from Mike Nesmith:
"That David has stepped beyond my view causes me the sadness that it does many of you, "I will miss him, but I won't abandon him to mortality ... David's spirit and soul live well in my heart, among all the lovely people, who remember with me the good times, and the healing times, that were created for so many, including us."
Mike had a really beautiful solo song after he left the Monkees by the name of "Joanne."
- [quote] Dolenz would deliberately look away from people in the hallway waiting for the elevator if they seemed to recognize him. As if he was disgusted by the attention. But he was the only person in the building who was about 6'4' tall and wore A GIGANTIC BLACK HAT.
I was in the audience with him at a Peter Gallagher performance at Feinstein's in NYC and I got a very similar reaction from Dolenz. But he's nowhere that tall.
- But I promised my whole school he'd sing at our prom!
Marcia Brady, President of the Fillmore Jr. High Davey Jones Fan Club
- Quite big tits, R32.
- I always thought he was a little gay.
- Note: David Bowie's real last name is Jones.
- Daddy's song from Head.
Davy with Toni Basil.
- In his youth he was the perfect type for "teen idol" status; cute, almost pretty, and harmless. His little girl fans probably didn't even know (or care) that he had a penis; to them he was just dreamy Davy, and all they thought about was being on a dream date with him...and maybe even hugging and kissing him!
As for the Monkees had some great hits. Some of the best songwriters of the time wrote the songs they sang: Boyce and Hart, Neil Diamond, John Stewart, Gerry Goffin and Carole King.
Mike Nesmith WAS a good songwriter. "Different Drum", "Joanne", "Papa Gene's Blues"...those are all good songs. He really was the most talented musician of the group.
Mickey was a decent vocalist, which is why he sang most of the songs. Davy had an English cabaret type voice which lended itself well to some songs, not so much to others. He was perfect for "Daydream Believer"; he made that HIS song.
Don Kirshner wanted the Monkees to record a song he thought would be a huge hit, but they wouldn't do it because they were rebelling against their management and wanted to do their own thing (they were really stupid). Too bad; the song was "Sugar, Sugar" and it was a monster hit for a CARTOON group, The Archies. That song would have been perfect for Davy to sing. Every time I hear it I imagine Davy purring "Sugar...aw, honey, honey...you are my candy girl and you got me wantin' you" instead of the nameless studio musician who ended up singing it.
- [quote]OMG, has anyone checked in on Marsha Brady?
How's she holding up?
The family has asked Marsha to give the Eulogy.
- They're talking about him on ET now. There was footage of him with his wife...Jesus Christ, she looks like she's fifteen years old! The viewer was informed that she's thirty-something years younger than him. God, that is so sad. She looks like the epitome of an air-brained, gold-digging bimbo.
- R135, ALL teanie-bopper idols are asexual girly boys, didn't you know that?
- [quote]. Mickey is an impossible "get." You have no idea the strings Piers had to pull to make it happen.
I would assume it was a fairly short string with a baggie of heroin tied to the end.
- I'm sorry, but who IS this person?
- They reported on Inside Edition that he was living in Florida and showed his home. It looks like the poor guy was living in a trailer park. He did have a very young, cute wife.
- Who is he, I never heard of him?
- [quote]I'm sorry, but who IS this person?
He's you in about 40 years Justin .
- Maybe he can get a spot in the "Farewell Takes Forever- the Whitney Houston Farewell Tour, starring Miss Dionne Warwick, Miss Whitney Houston and introducing Miss Dallas Houston" show at Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City.
- Kind of shocked to hear this today. He would not have been my pick to go first. I'm watching a video he did with the Monkees and damn he's a cutie. RIP, Davy. Another part of my childhood gone.
- His only chance at having the flags flown at half staff/month long media worship is to have some coke planted in the casket, dub his old interviews to make his IQ seem about 50 points lower, and to have Shirley Q. Liquor apply his makeup.
- I remember seeing Davy as the Artful Dodger in it's pre-Broadway run in Los Angeles. A brunch of us from Warner's went to opening night and we got a chance to meet the cast after the production.
I remember Davy as being a very smart lad a little cocky but fun to talk to. He seemed to have inhabited the personality of the Artful Dodger when I talked to him.
Gillian Lynne choreographed PICKWICK
- [quote] But he's nowhere that tall.
It must've been that damn hat that made him look tall. He always wore a very long coat in winter and a black hip length jacket in summer when it was 90 degrees outside and nobody in their right minds would wear a jacket.
He drove a Jeep with CA plates and he had a ponytail, but cut it off when he started wearing the black hat more than the big straw hat with the black ribbon.
Which hat do you think he will wear tonight? A black one, a white one with a black ribbon band or a straw one with a black ribbon band?
- God I loved them as a kid. Their best hits was the first album I ever bought. I'll never forget that day, going into the record store with my little birthday savings. First big purchase of my life.
- My friends all switched from The Beatles to The Monkees. OY FUCKING VAY, I lost it.
I once heard Mickey say he was amazed that he talked with John Lennon about music, like the Monkees were on the same level as the Beatles.
- So sorry to hear this, though Peter was my favorite when I was little..Where in Pennsylvania did he live?
- I think Lennon & McCartney were happy that someone was taking over the bopper set. The Monkees debut happened around the time Revolver was released and The Beatles & certain fans went See ya!
- His wife looks like his granddaughter.
- Of course, r154; it's his Trophy Wife.
- R153, not Paul...
- [quote]He was kinda cute back in the day.
Waaaaay back in the day.
Those man-boob implants were very disturbing.
- [quote]He was living in the racist part of Florida.
That part between Cuba and Georgia?
- My prepubescent crush is dead! My 8-year-old self used to daydream about us walking hand in hand on the beach in the sunshine.
My local radio station interviewed him last month and he was hyper as hell. I mean over the top and they had to talk over him and more or less hang up on him when the interview was over. I wonder if he had a coke problem or something.
- I was on a plane with him in the 80s. I heard the voice before I saw him, and recognized it. He was tiny, leathery, with a big head and a mullet. Not pleasant. Kind of spoiled my childhood memory. RIP.
- WW for 158! LOL!
- R1 is a completely lame W&W.
- I remember the Monkees from Saturday morning reruns in the 70s, and from the 20th anniversary era when MTV played the show in the 80s. I saw them live in 87 (minus Nesmith) and they put on a great show.
RIP Davy, "the cute one."
"Look Out, Here Comes Tomorrow" might be my favorite of the hit singles he took lead on. Neil Diamond wrote it, I think.
"Star Collector" (Goffin/King) and "She Hangs Out" from the Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn and Jones album are great songs, too.
- God he was so hot to me.
- sniff, sniff. can someone post his famous moon shot?
- On the last train to Clarksville
- He was so tiny that he trained to be a horse racing jockey.
- R165 .. moon shot?
- I'm confused. Who was the asshole? Mickey Dolenz or Mike Nesmith?
- R27 link made me realize you can actually hear his Brit accent when he sings. Most times British singers sound "American" when they sing.
- [quote]you can actually hear his Brit accent when he sings.
I love that
- W&W r125 & r129
Jesus, I had to clean the monitor after that.
WTF is up with all these lame ass fucking nostalgia acts. I mean really. The real musicians can probably still play decently (Steely Dan, etc.), but shit...they are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Do they really make any money at the end of the day?
- How slightly odd to die on the 29th of February. It's one of those little tombstone facts that tweaks the notice of the passer-by. "Oh look, he died on a Leap Day."
- r125, it's an old DL tradition for celebrity deaths (one that hasn't been used much of late) and it's actually "Damn! He had a hot ass but I guess he couldn't live forever"
- [quote]Do they really make any money at the end of the day?[/quote]
Rob Grill was quoted as saying that he made more money, and had more job security, singing on the nostalgia/oldies circuit than he ever had during the Grass Roots heyday.
- I am probably the only person you know who went to Monkees concert in the 60's. I went because I had a major crush on them...it was at the Cow Palace in San Francisco (So.).
I think I was the only boy there. I remember exactly what I was wearing...I bought my outfit for the show. Blue wide-wail bell bottom low riding pants...a blue paisley shirt...and Beatle boots.
You really couldn't hear anything for all the screaming.
I loved it.
P.S. a few years later I met Peter Tork hitchhiking at the Monterey Pop Festival.
- I love how those schmaltz-peddlers on the Today show are making it sound like this hack was the most gifted mucisian of his generation.
- I also had the biggest crush on Davey Jones when I was about 10 years old.
I saw him at an oldies concert many years later and was surprised how nice he was chatting and signing autographs for every fan that was there.
My favorite song was "A Little Bit of Me A Little Bit Of You.
- It must be so frustrating though for the adult Jones to be defined by a silly tv series he did in the 60s ... and having to keep replaying those hits. But I suppose most showbiz kids like he was would love to be something to era-defining. Trust they made some money out of all the re-runs.
- Jones seemed to have a sense of humor about his claim to fame, and he was willing to ride it out for money. Prior to the Monkees, he was a jockey and he used most of his wealth to breed horses. That was his true passion.
It's funny to me that so many people had an emotional connection to him, but there we are.
I've always liked Mike Nesmith best, for his weirdness, the fact that he invented MTV and the fact that his mom invented white out. Nesmith didn't need the money, so he was rarely involved in the reunions.
- Davy Jones was scheduled to perform with fellow heartthrob David Cassidy at the Magic City Casino in Miami next week. Cassidy said that the show will go on; and that it will be tribute to his friend Jones.
- And Mickey Dolenz did wear a big ass black cowboy hat on Piers Morgan last night!
Davy Jones Moon
- I think there's a certain kind of celebrity who's made peace with his/her moment in the sun, and doesn't mind getting out there for the fans (and to make a living). A lot of the musicians/pop cult sensations didn't make a ton of money the first time around, and had limited residuals in reruns/use of their songs. So if people will pay to see a part of their growing up years, then they'll go out and tour/make appearances.
A lot of the Star Trek alumni are like that; they go to the conventions and chat with the fans, and get on with the rest of their lives.
A guy I know who is a musician and idolized the Monkees played backup for them at a few conventions, and said they were pretty cool about their status (and place in the music pantheon). He told me about a fan approaching Mickey and asking: who was better, the Monkees or the Beatles? And Mickey responded something like: the Beatles were musicians, we were a bunch of guys having a good time on a TV show.
- My mom used to work for him in the early 70s. She said he used to make her forge his signature on photos that fans would send in asking to be autographed. I wonder if any of the ones she signed are going to end up on Ebay now.
- Dolenz surprising Jones at Epcot Flower Festival Concert 5-2011.
- During the 80s reunion/MTV fever, I really got into the history of the group. It's true that the four guys were cast for the sitcom, but musical talent was part of the mix.
Mike Nesmith and Peter Tork could play well; Nesmith was also a good songwriter (arguably a great one, he wrote the classic "Diff'rent Drum" and "The Girl I Knew Somewhere," one of the most underrated Monkees songs).
Davy and Micky were actors already when cast, but both could sing well, and Micky became a decent drummer. Dolenz has been gracious and kind last night and today, but it must piss him off to hear Jones repeatedly described in obit pieces as "lead singer." The two of them split like 90 percent of the leads, and Nesmith sang lead sometimes. Dolenz probably sang lead on more hit singles than Jones.
Has the family announced any plans yet? I will be disappointed if Nez and Tork don't join Dolenz in northern England or wherever the family chooses to hold the funeral.
They are all cute as hell in the TV clip of Nesmith's "Girl I Knew Somewhere," with Micky on lead vocal and DL fave Julie Newmar guest starring:
- Well shit. Someone posted about an ear crease on your earlobe as an indicator of heart disease. I just noticed I have one. I'm 48. Does that mean I already have it or I could get it?
- Micky looked ridiculous with that big black hat on.
I was a fan during the 20th reunion tour, and always thought of him as the lead singer. I really think he's the one who still looks somewhat like he did when he was younger.
Peter (my favorite) looks awful, and has for years.
Michael looks like a GOP member of Congress.
- "Valleri" was always my favorite by the Monkees.
- I just had to go out and buy their greatest hits after hearing about Davy Jones.
They had some really catch tunes for the time.
I was in love with Davy Jones in the 60's and he was my first boy crush.
He was adorable.
- Antenna TV is having a Monkees marathon in honor of Davy tomorrow. They'll be airing the entire series, in order.
- Funeral/memorial arrangements have been announced.
- Did you know that the Monkees' songs & TV show was market to the pre-teen set? No one today seems to understand this. College kids didn't listen to this simple-minded tripe.
Pre-teen in 1968
- The Monkees had some huge hits for a product marketed at kids. There was obviously some crossover there. It was very unusual to have a number one for seven weeks in the '60s. They were prefab, but they also rode the camp train of enormous tv hits like Batman and Laugh In.
- Nesmith sure had a lot of marriages. He was talented, but I suspect he can be an ice cold prick.
- They might have been marketed to the pre-teens, but like other great shows (i.e. Bullwinkle) they put in jokes that the adults would appreciate.
I have the DVD set of the show and was watching some episodes last night. One short bit showed the guys setting up dominos to have them all fall in order when the first one is touched. They called it "Southeast Asia". (Remember, this was the late 60s)
- [quote]the Monkees' songs & TV show was market to the pre-teen set
Of course the TV show, and early music, was calculated to appeal to kids and young teens. Davy Jones was the first crush of who knows how many millions of young girls (and boys). Tiger Beat magazine-- Win a Dream Date with Davy Jones!, etc.
But while a lot of their music was bubblegum, much of it was not. "Pleasant Valley Sunday" (Goffin/King) was a clever critique of suburban materialism and a little bit radical for a hit song in 1967. "I'm Not Your Steppin' Stone" is great garage band rock, almost punk. After the guys got more control over the music, they released some very good stuff. "Star Collector" is about rock stars fucking groupies.
And then there's the soundtrack album from "Head," their psychedelic experiment of a failed feature film, which has some very good cuts and was definitely not aimed at 12 year olds. (Jack Nicholson and Bob Rafelson were involved in the production, along with copious amounts of pot; and a very young Teri Garr and Frank Zappa were in it). It hardly got attention at the time precisely because of the bubblegum teen idol origins of the band.
- Good point about the film, Head, r198. Their audience didn't like or understand it. The Monkees had begun taking themselves VERY SERIOUSLY, as if they were a 'real' rock band. That did not/would never have worked.
- 17 in 1968. My h.s. classmates and I watched The Monkees show weekly.
- Thanks, R186. Dolenz sounded almost the same as he did in '65.
Davy had the same body type as my brother who died a few years ago at about the same age. Not tall, a shelf tummy. My brother died of a heart attack as well.
I wish I'd kept that Monkees lunchbox.
- [quote]Antenna TV is having a Monkees marathon in honor of Davy tomorrow. They'll be airing the entire series, in order.[/quote]
They're also airing the movie, "Head", Saturday at 1:00 pm eastern and again on Sunday at 10:00 pm eastern.
The Monkee Marathon starts on Saturday at 5:00 pm eastern.
- For those who have the BIO channel
Friday, March 2
8 p.m.: BIO channel airs “Biography: The Monkees,” which looks at the various members of the Monkees band, from the days on a scripted TV series to their years as a touring act.
9 p.m.: Following a look at the band, BIO narrows the focus with “BIO Remembers: Davy Jones,” and profiles the former teen heartthrob of the ‘60s.
- Another 70's re-run Monkees teen fan here - so sad that the 1st to go was Davy, the "cute" one and from all accounts, the most friendly and natural one esp. in later years. Seemed really into his family and horses and didn't seem to mind being pegged an "oldies" star. Did I read someplace that he had a family history of coronary disease, and had chest pains the night before only to be sent home by the hospital? If true that' a potential whopper of a lawsuit - can't they find blocked arteries rapidly these days and put in stents a lot more easily?
Thanks to whomever posted the link to the Jones/Toni Basil dance scene in Head. Very trippy - is that Frank Zappa w/the talking ox with Jones at the end of the clip?? wtf how weird.
- In recent years davy had been arrested for dui
Another time cops were called when his wife was beating him. Some how the wife didnt go to jail. I assume they had a crazy relationship
The wife was buts on Dr Phil. She made no sense
- He was famous enough to get a younger trophy wife. LOL.
- [quote]Peter (my favorite) looks awful, and has for years.
Watching the Biography episode now -- he has some really bad dentures.
Micky still looks pretty good for his age.
- I tried, but I couldn't get through 15 minutes of "Head." Everything about it really stunk.
- Head was Terri Garr's first film?
- W and W for r144.
Also, no gay rumours yet?
- Why did Davy's face change so much? Plastic surgery? He seemed to lose his cuteness early, whereas Tork stayed attractive longer.
- It seems the extra weight on Davy went to his face.
- I think that with most baby-faced teen idols, any evidence of age is more pronounced. I don't think Davy looks like he's had any "work" done.
- The only real difference I see in Davy's face is the lips. With age, lips thin out. So, for someone like him who had those lush pouty lips as a youth, it's going to change his look.
R213 (I think)
- Peter talked about Davy on Rachel Maddow's show last week. He made it clear that he's a big lefty/fan of Rachel's.
He also made it clear that he doesn't get along with his fellow Monkees. He didn't say which one(s) but I'm assuming he and Mickey don't get along. Both of them are in NYC but are appearing separately on TV to talk about Davy.
- None of them have really gotten along in years. Davy had recently said some really snarky things about the others.
Mickey was right in that they're like brothers. Deep down there still seems to be some mutual love & respect, but overall they clash too much.
- Peter Tork posted on his blog that he loves Davy the most of all of them.
- Peter looked fantastic on Rachel Maddow's show. He's 70 years old and a total cute, hot daddy (or grandaddy).
- Does anyone else think this young cuban wife might have had something to do with it? Apparently they were starting to have physical fights and she was very bossy. Maybe he had decided to leave her.
- [quote]Does anyone else think this young cuban wife might have had something to do with it? Apparently they were starting to have physical fights and she was very bossy. Maybe he had decided to leave her.
Or he found the screenplay she was writing...
- Peter currently lives in Storrs, CT, where he grew up. His father was a respected economics professor at UConn for years. Original name is "Torkeldson" or something similar - Tork was his stage name.
- When he married her there were stories in the tabs that his friends/family were worried about her. Apparently, they felt she was bossy and violent. I think she hit or something before the wedding.
- She is younger than two of Jones's daughters. I think I read (in the tabs) at the time that his kids wouldn't attend their wedding.
I read online that Jones would be buried in FL where he died. This is where is current wife is from (Miami I believe)....he only recently bought the home they had down there, he still kept his main US residence up in PA (horse farm), where he'd lived for yrs. and spent most of his time. Can't imagine he's wish to be buried in FL and not either PA or the UK, where he raised his kids and his parents/family are buried.
- I was suspisious when I heard we was being buried in Florida.
- According to TMZ:
[quote]Davy Jones' body will be cremated ... family sources tell TMZ.
We're told there will be a memorial service for the singer in Florida, though the date is TBA.
TMZ broke the story ... Davy died last week from an apparent heart attack, which the singer suffered at a ranch near his Florida home, where he was visiting his horses.
Davy has not been cremated yet, and the family is still discussing what to do with his ashes. Funeral plans for the singer are also still up in the air.[/quote]
If he's being cremated, there may be no resting place. Reading between the lines, it sounds like there may be some disagreements going on in the family. Perhaps between the new wife and Davy's daughters.
There are also stories where Micky is saying that the family wants the funeral to be very low key & private, so he, Mike & Peter will likely not attend.
- Nuts, I messed up the quote. The TMZ quote runs from "Davy Jones will be cremated ... " to "... Funeral plans are still up in the air."
- Davy Jones: Battered Man
The Monkees’ Davy Jones married his post-mid-life crisis August 30th at her parent’s home in Miami.
The singer and actor is 63 years old and his new bride is 32. None of his children nor his former Monkees bandmates attended the ceremony. Age is the least of his worries. Turns out, his new wife, Jessica Pacheco, likes to beat the shit out of him.
“Davy admits Jessica’s violent with him, but she’s drop-dead gorgeous and has clearly captivated him,” said a source who eyewitness-ed her hitting him. “He says, ‘It’s my life. I don’t want to be alone.’”
Exploding in a fiery rage, Jessica had “punched, scratched, kicked and bruised Davy,” explained the eyewitness.
“She’s thrown things at him. I’ve seen the cuts, seen the injuries. And he never hits her back. He’s just the nicest guy.
“I have a journal she wrote, confessing to beating him. I’m keeping it to give to the police in case she kills him. She once cracked his rib with her shoe.”
Conditions had gotten so bad that Davy’s four daughters recently planned to “rescue” him from her, said the pal. But it never took place because the on-again, off-again pair temporarily split up for six months but then Davy shocked everyone with the sudden wedding announcement.
The pal fears Davy has closed his eyes to danger.
- Here's more on the problems in the marriage. Very sad.
- This affects me more than it should - the thought of that terrible women abusing him. Probably because he is/was so small and cute. I hope they are doing every test possible to make sure she didn't give him anything to simulate heart attack.
- It finally made the TV Guide. I guess it's true.
- not sure if I should post this url here, for fear of overwhelming the site - Jones's youngest daughter Annabel keeps a blog, and posted a brief message about her father's death...she embedded the YouTube clip of the dancing scene in Head in memory of her dad.
Seems to be a small, low-travelled blog by a relatively unknown person, but thought some of the fans here might want to see it.
- Davy's daughter looks just like him.
According to the linked Reuters article, the private funeral was today in Florida, and:
"Immediate family including his wife and daughters attended the small, private service. Jones' body was to be cremated and his ashes returned to his birthplace in Manchester, England, publicist Helen Kensick said.
This is right.
- Back to the UK -- good.
- He truly was my first crush at 6-years-old. I absolutely adored everything about him and loved the Monkees show, too. I can still look at pictures of him when he was young and get butterflies purely because of his looks.
He genuinely seemed like a nice guy as well and I'm sad he's gone.
If you dig into their years as the Monkees, they really had some seriously talented friends a la Jimi Hendrix, Steven Stills and songs written for them by Carol King and Neil Diamond.
#1 fan Mary
- Let's not forget Frank Zappa who made memorable cameos on the show as well as in Head!
- He was gorgeous. And seemed nice too.
- Loved seeing Peter on Rachel's show.
Happy that Davy got the cover of People magazine.
- New York memorial concert announced.
THE DAVY JONES MEMORIAL
An Evening of Music & Memories
Hosted by Cousin Brucie of Sirius XM
Featuring the Davy Jones Band past & present
and many very special guests
April 3, 2012
Showtime @ 8:00PM
Doors Open @ 6:00PM
Tickets $15.00 in advance, $20.00 day of show
- Here's the location:
B.B. King Blues Club & Grill
237 West 42nd Street, Between 7th & 8th Avenue
New York, NY 10036
- So his absurdly younger wife would beat him up? And he stayed married to her? That is so, so sad. He was still a relatively attractive guy; surely he could have done better than a wack job who used him as a punching bag, even if she is "drop-dead gorgeous (she isn't)." I wish he had hooked up with a much younger woman who was nice to him.
- Thanks, r238. I just may try to attend that memorial. if you hear of any changes or updates, please post again.
[italic]Told them both that I love them
Said it, and it was true
But I can't have both of them
Don't know what to do
Well, I see all kinds of sorrow; Wish I only loved one
Look out here comes tomorrow
Oh how I wish tomorrow would never come[/italic]
- R241, you've posted the lyrics of one of my favorite Monkee songs. I'm a big fan of Neil Diamond too. Thanks for that.
If I see any more about the NY memorial, I'll post it. If you do attend, please post about it.
- Wow, his daughter really does look like him. Beautiful woman.
- [quote]I can still look at pictures of him when he was young and get butterflies purely because of his looks.
- He was beautiful.
- Those eyes, those lips..
- I agree R229. It breaks my heart to think he was being treated like that. Sure, he could have left her, but he must have been really lonely and smitten with her. Uggh, so sad. Dammit, I would have treated him right! He was still very good looking, IMO.
- He's the only person I've seen cuter than a baby animal.
- LOL R249. Well said - and true!
- His older sisters came to his last wedding, his daughters did not. How sad for his daughters to know that this woman abused him and now she's in control of his possessions and ashes.
- Is it wrong to masturbate to the deceased? Is it disrespectful? Because those pics at R246 and R247 gave me a boner. Hell, R248 isn't bad either.
- I've been looking around to see if there's been any updates to this, specifically about who the "special guests" are and whether the other 3 Monkees are involved. Not much news other than that some members of Davy's family will attend and that many people from Davy's personal and professional life have been invited to take part.
I would love to go. I loved Davy. I'm hoping that a DVD is released. This sound like a very special tribute.
If anybody goes, please, please post about it.
- Are any of the monkees gay? Wondering about Mike Nesmith. Saw an interview where Micky and Davy were making a joke about him-something about out of the closet. Then they corrected themselves about how he has a wife and 6 kids.
- Nesmith is just a bad husband.
- Adorable pic of Davy and Mike.
- How was the tribute show last night?
- I can't get him off my mind.
- R258, me either..
- Yes, in NYC. Apparently 2 of the other Monkees were there. Why the heck couldn't Nesmith go?
- He is incredible in this short clip: gorgeous, polite, funny...
- I've read things on various Facebook pages about the memorial last night. It was a mix of music and stories and was over 4 hours long. Some of Davy's daughters were there. Peter and Micky appeared in the last half-hour or so.
Haven't seen any reason why Mike didn't appear. Maybe he's waiting for the California memorial. (Though I have not seen any mention of one actually being scheduled.)
- Some video is showing up on YouTube.
- I've become fascinated with them since the passing of Davy and read a few observations from those who knew them in the day. Micky was by all accounts the nicest and friendliest, making an effort to keep them together. He kept in touch with Mike while the others went through a period of bitterness toward Mike. Mike was an odd bird, interesting and talented. But he could also be a bit of a jerk, focussing on his own self interests during the Monkees. Peter was intellegent, but he became a hippie and had wild sex/drug parties, unable to control his addictions. In the early days he admitted hitting his wife. Although he seems to have recovered. Accounts of Davy seem to be a mixed bag, some saying he was nice and charming, others put off by his outgoing behavior and need for adoration. Jimmy Hendrix's group were annoyed with him and gave him some drug to make him pass out. Although I can't help but wonder if some stories amount to jealousy of Davy's extreme beauty or maybe they thought of him as the annoying kid. In later years, Davy had a problem of saying bad things in interviews about the others, especially Nez. Altough what he said may have had a measure of truth, it's always a mistake to vocalize in the press because it turns off the fans and creates tension in the group. Micky never had a bad thing to say about anyone and the reverse is true.
Still Davy was beautiful. RIP
- Great post R264.
Were The Monkees ever on American Bandstand?
- According to the Wikipedia list linked, yes. Though I couldn't tell you when, because I don't recall it.
- R265, are you not aware that the Monkees were not a real band but a bunch of actors?
Actually, they wild have been perfect for American Bandstand:
Stand there posing with instruments and lipsynch.
- I have also been obsessed with the Monkees since Davy's death, r264.
I have read he had been drinking heavily at times during the last few years probably due to his volatile third marriage.
He also seemed to have financial problems due to losing a lot of money during his Monkee years.
Not a very stress free life during his senior years.
- I blame his bitch wife. What a cunt.
- Not to reopen a very old debate, r267, but to say the Monkees were not a "real band" is not entirely true.
Nesmith and Tork were experienced musicians when they were hired, and Nesmith proved to be a talented songwriter and guitarist. Davy was a not just an "actor," but had Broadway musical theater experience, so he was hired as an actor/ singer. Micky Dolenz had been a child actor and played in a garage band before getting the TV gig as a funny looking and funny guy. The group was not organic--they really were a "Prefab Four"-- but the vocals were their own (Davy or Micky, usually, but Pete and Nez took occasional leads and played on all the records, especially "Headquarters" and after.
They toured in 1967, and (gasp) played their own instruments every night, and sold out all over the country. Rhino's "Monkees Live 1967" album documents that. Great? No. Good? Yeah, if you can get beyond the sound of girl fans literally screaming almost constantly.
More to your point, though: everyone on "American Bandstand" lip-synched, at least in those days. I doubt any musician who ever appeared on that stage was playing live. Being a "real band" was never a qualifier for having hit records.
- Thank you, 270! When I was in elementary school in the 1960s, I would defend the Monkees, and was always told what an idiot I was, or hit by another kid over it, but I never backed down. I remember so clearly when they played in our town and I couldn't go see them because I was too young. Did get to see them on their 20th anniversary tour, though. And they were great. Davy was so fucking handsome and cute at the same time!
- R270, reading "history" today, does not make it true.
- R272, you're an idiot.
- R273, Insecure much?
- R272, on what planet does that have anything to do with me being insecure? You are even more of an idiot than I originally pegged you for. Wow.
- According to various web and FB pages, there was a private Monkee-Family memorial for Davy on April 15 that Mike Nesmith did attend. It was at Micky's ex-wife's house out in LA. The link below contains pictures from the event.
Still Missing Davy
- And one more since the site wouldn't allow me to put 2 links in the same post ...
The link below is a nice interview with Davy's sister. She explains the final scattering of his ashes. Would have been nice if some were scattered in Pennsylvania since he had a home there too, but this is very nice.
[quote]She added Mr Jones’ ashes would be scattered near his Miami home, and off the coast of Southampton “so he can float on either side of the ocean.”[/quote]
- From 276's link, a nice picture of Peter, Micky, and (yes) a frail looking Mike at the LA memorial.
The pictures of the guys' kids on that page are touching, too.
- A link with conspiracy theory about his crazy wife.
- Oh, no.
Poor Mike :(
- I did read on Mike's facebook page that he had cataract surgery in January. Other than that, I haven't heard anything else about his health.
R276, 277 and other posts on this thread
- Mike's 3rd wife filed for divorce last year. Poor guy is alone now.
- For those who were wondering about Davy's wife, according to the article linked he never updated his Will to include her. I would have thought that just because she was his wife, she would have been entitled to the estate, but I guess not. I'm glad that his daughters got the bulk of the money, but I think it would be a nice gesture if she were reinbursed for the funeral expenses.
Also, I did read a recent statment from her where she says that she scattered Davy's ashes in the ocean from Florida. In a link posted here earlier, it was mentioned that his sisters scattered his ashes in the ocean from England. Looks like he got his wish.
- I think the wife is suing his estate. But good on him not to include her. He should have updated his will later though to show her omission was intentional.