Frau blogger/Food Network host Ree Drummond (The Pioneer Woman)
Who knew she was such a figure of controversy? Several anti-PW blogs (The Pioneer Woman Sux, The Marlboro Woman, Pie Near Woman) accuse her of everything from animal cruelty to sexism to recipe plagiarism.
She really lucked out with her blog. It made her a millionaire when she was just a two-bit hack writer living on a farm in the middle of nowhere.
I don't know much about her but I have read some negative things claiming she is a fundie, etc.
Her tv show bothers me. It reminds me of an infomercial in which she is the product for sale. I know, all of those shows are selling the host but most of them attempt to give the viewer something of value. Ree Drummond wants viewers to just buy her.
OMG, I just checked out Pie Near Woman. Someone is really investing in that parody. Maybe it's the Pioneer Woman herself?
OP, do you know the overall message of these "detractors"? Why do they hate Ree?
Plagiarism seems to be a big beef. Apparently she likes to lift stuff from church cookbooks and other chefs.
Never seen the show or read her blog, but from the pics I've just Googled, she looks like a smug bitch.
She's not that bad. It's just jealousy I think.
Lonely single and/or loveless fraus seem to hate her.
I think it's because she plays up a common dream among straight women; City girl meets rugged, successful, handsome cowboy... he falls in love for her, sweeps her off to a beautiful ranch where she has loads of time and money on her hands so she spends lots of time in the kitchen making cozy, delicious comfort foods for her man and the babies he gives her, and she blogs all about it etc. etc. etc...
Even many jaded, self proclaimed "independent" straight women dream of that stuff. This woman's got it and throws it in their faces while she makes millions and *POOF*, hate ensues.
How can someone be accused of plagiarizing recipes? Especially the simple stuff she makes. Homespun recipes like hers are all over the internet. It's just one big free for all. It's common and accepted to share, copy, and tweak them.
r7 is right; there's not a food blogger alive who isn't recycle old recipes from all over.
I don't like the ranch scenes of tackling (or whatever the term is) those poor cows. And I already have a slew of community cookbooks, I don't need to watch a TV show about how to use them. And I hate the idea of isolating those kids by educating them at home & making them work on the ranch. And her husband's whole family just seems too big for its britches, per the link.
She does have a cute dog.
I don't know her, but I would guess they are jealous of her because she made lots of money and did it in a way they would envy.
R6 is right.
Speaking only for myself, I'd never be jealous of anyone who has to live in Oklahoma.
[quote]I don't know her, but I would guess they are jealous of her because she made lots of money and did it in a way they would envy.
I think so too, R12. It's the same sour grapes that have been characteristic of Martha Stewart and Oprah Winfrey's detractors. None of those three successful women is perfect by any standards, but most of their critics are envious.
A friend worked his way through college at a company that shipped seafood around the country. He said he was fascinated when he first noticed that if a crab in a trap was successfully clawing its way up and out, the others would pull it back down.
Women don't become successful in our culture without being hated.
My sis, a much lesser known blogger, is friends with Ree and has been to the ranch. They are friends and I'm told Ree is very much like what you see.
One thing I've learned from my sis about the bloggers in general, and mommy ones in particular, is that the whole scene can be Mean Girls on steroids. I'm sure Ree has tons of faults, like all of us. But, I think websites devoted to tearing a single person is just downright creepy. I've seen similarly weird, jealous backstabbing directed towards my sis all because she got a popular on the convention circuit. There are a lot of unhinged people out there, for sure.
(BTW, sis said Marlboro man's ass truly is that fine in person.)
Like most things in life, the gays do it better. See beekman1802.com
More hints about your sister r17
I think it's a little more than just jealousy. I think many of her detractors are disillusioned. Some years back when I first encountered her blog, I thought it just seemed too much to be true. Like a pleasant fantasy with some foundation in reality. However much of it reflected her actual life, and how much was facade I had no idea, but it seemed clear to me that there was a lot of image-making going on.
But a lot of people will buy into the fantasy first, and as they gradually become aware that they may have invested their credulity in a false front, they become bitter in their disillusionment.
Why would you want to know more about her, [R17]?
Is she a mommy blogger?
How long has she been blogging?
p.s. What does she think of Dooce?
Just a quick note, the Drummonds are some of the richest ranchers in America. Ree had a lot of money behind her when she started her blog.
Just a quick note, the Drummonds are some of the richest ranchers in America.
Arnold and Willis moved west?
Caught her show. She is really ground zero for frau. She's like church lady frau on steroids. And after she puts in each ingredient, she announces "Now let me get a picture for my blog," and then picks up her camera and takes a picture. The recipes are pretty lame too.
What I find amazing about many of these comments are the attacks on Drummond's detractors. It seems whenever one of Ree's fans is incapable of fashioning an intelligent rebuttal, they play the tired and worn "jealousy" card. Why?
I'm not a fan of the Pioneer Woman. I find the whole schtick to be nothing more than a manufactured fairy tale created by a bored, rich house wife. Anecdotal evidence suggests that Drummond, suffering from severe post-partum depression (4 kids born in 7 yrs.) became a reality-tv addict. Starting the blog was considered therapeutic and the photography hobby got her out of the house.
Initially Drummond wanted to produce a television show similar to The Bachelor. Based from their Oklahoma ranch, it had the working title The Ranchelor. When that didn't pan out, the fall back option was a cooking show. One problem, Ree didn't know how to cook and had no connections to the food world. Daddy mega-bucks, Ladd Drummond, opened up his fat wallet and shopped their idea around to various producers. The rest is history.
As for the plagiarized recipes, if you look at The Marlboro Woman blog, I think they present a strong case for it. MW has published photos of Drummond's lifted recipes and the cookbooks they're from in support of that argument. Ree's cooking is simple, in fact it borders on mundane, but that doesn't excuse her from professional courtesy when it comes to crediting her sources. Not doing so is lame.
I don't read her blog and didn't know she had a show but have tried some of her recipes. Isn't that what the internet is for? To exchange and make information available to others?
Her mac & cheese recipe is the best I've ever made, and is probably the same recipe millions and millions of people have handed down through family members, except mine, for whom macaroni and cheese came from a box.
Of course there is some artifice to her image, but it's more real than not.
And I'm not a fan.
As R25 stated, the Drummonds are very rich, though actually there are a lot of them, and despite being all descended from the same land-stealing pioneer ranching family, there are now several families of cousins and second-cousins, so even though collectively they hold enormous amounts of land and have huge amounts of money, she doesn't have access to more than her husband's little piece of that, though that's not an insubstantial amount.
She grew up as the princess daughter of a successful orthopedist (who is also an asshole) in white-collar Bartlesville, the home (at that time) of Phillips Petroleum Company.
My mother was one of her teachers when she was in junior high, and she had that Martha Stewart-like personality even then. Mom says she was always extremely personable, very ambitious to do well, and was always starting projects and group activities, as well as always being at the center of anything fun and high-profile happening at the school. And she's apparently the kind of person who would see a former teacher 20 years later and stop to talk and hug and be effusively friendly.
And it's also true she spent several years in LA before she married her cowboy. I don't know what her LA goals were, but the fact she didn't become famous there is hardly unique about her. I'm guessing there are more than a few women and men in their late 20s in LA who would be tempted to move back to their hometowns if a rich cowboy hunk asked them to marry him.
But my favorite among the parodies is Ree Dummond of Pie Near Woman. I used to know the woman who writes it, and she is definitely not Ree Drummond.
I've tried watching her show, but I absolutely can't take her voice, ugh. Her pugged-up face isn't helping matters either.
"What I find amazing about many of these comments are the attacks on Drummond's detractors. It seems whenever one of Ree's fans is incapable of fashioning an intelligent rebuttal, they play the tired and worn "jealousy" card. Why?"
Because starting a blog just to trash another blogger over and over again is not an action a well-adjusted person takes. "Jealousy" is actually the kinder characterization.
Hmmm. I find it interesting.
R24 - How IS Dooce these days?
I used to like reading it until I just couldn't take the self adoring momm snark she went so deeply into.
R38, she & her husband just separated. Wikipedia has links to their respective blog posts about it. Remember when people used to discuss such things only with their closest friends?
the big news is dooce and hubby are divorcing.
I finally figured out what she reminds me of. It really doesn't get much folksy-er than that.
I visit her blog often, but mostly because she gives away cooking stuff frequently (like really good chopping knives, KitchenAid Mixers, etc). All you have to do to enter is write a brief comment on the post.
have you won anything?
Is there any evidence that she's a fundy and/or Repug? I would love to know.
Her hubby and family are so.......
She's blogged a lot about her husband's brother who died. Anyone know how he died? I don't think she ever said.
Wow, lots of jealous barren vaginas here throwing the hate at this woman.
It must be torturous, being a middle aged, lonely heart female with hate issues. Truly the dredge of Western society.
Sorry fatty fraus and repressed elderlesbians, she's got something you want and it kills you.
I recently discovered her. I'm as jaded as a New York gay can be but I like her. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt she's a repub but she doesn't seem to push any political or even commercial agenda on her show. Not that I can see so far at least.
I never see her pushing a product, never see product names, etc. except for maybe the typical KitchenAid mixer or Le Creuset stew pot.
It's fun and me and the BF like to have coffee and watch her on Sunday morning and have a laugh, wondering if she's aware that her youngest kid is a screaming gayling.
I don't find the husband all that hot but, from a distance, any guy in a cowboy hat and boots would appear to be. I think she gets tons of hate mostly from jealous women.
[quote]me and the BF like to have coffee
You don't really sound intelligent enough to be broadcasting your lame opinion, R48.
[quote]to be broadcasting your lame opinion
I am fascinated and horrified by the anti-PW spite blogs (why would you spend so much time and energy hating someone so benign?). I generally like PW - never make her recipes, way too much fat - but I generally like her "voice" and appreciate that she has been able to make a success from her lifestyle blog. All power to her!
Bumping, because I'm late to the whole mommy blogging phenomenon, and would like to discuss it with bitchy DLers.
So whatever became of dooce's divorce, like why did her and her husband split? Internet pornogrpahy addiction? Another woman?
I saw a picture of the ex-husband, he looked smarmy.
Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’!
Though your limbs are swollen
Keep those butters rolling rawhide!
Rain and wind and weather
Diabetes is forever
Keep those butters rollin’
You guys who claim you can't understand why bloggers would write about PW cannot be serious, can you? It's snark, a running commentary on both the show and the blog.
It's hardly any different than what people did on TWOP -- or here at DL, for that matter.
R58, TWOP was not, and DL is not, dedicated to snarking on one person or subject.
There are tons of lengthy, recurring threads here about just one person, R59, and you know it. Just ask Matt Bomer, Madonna, Joan Crawford, Julie Andrews, Freddie Smith, Jeremy Renner, George Clooney, Colton Haynes, Gwyneth Paltrow...
A single thread among many is very different from a blog with one topic, R60.
What's more, I think you know it.
You first said there was nothing on DL dedicated to snarking on one person. When that fell through, you said sure, we snark on one person here, but it's not the same thing.
You wanna think a blog that has developed a community and is devoted to a single topic is a sure sign that everyone involved is mentally ill, go right ahead, Doc. Be my guest. It's not like you're engaging in typical DL hyperbole based on almost no information or anything.
You're too stupid to bother with, R62. You obviously have never developed the capacity for reading comprehension.
My hausfrau sister has one of her cookbooks. Some of the recipes she tried were pretty good.
An entire blog devoted to criticizing one person is weird and obsessive.
[quote]You first said there was nothing on DL dedicated to snarking on one person.
No he didn't. He said DL wasn't devoted to one subject.
I always feel like Ladd beats her. Whenever she's talking on her show I keep waiting for her to breathlessly confess that, "This is Ladd's favorite, and when I don't make it sometimes he punches me in the kidney, but I really should know better," and then just keep cooking.
[quote]He said DL wasn't devoted to one subject.
Of course it isn't. No one said it was. It's a forum and not a blog. But there are plenty of people here who regularly visit threads that go on for months or even years at a time, and who repeatedly snark about one person or one topic.
That's all those bloggers are doing. I'm sure some of them go overboard, but so do a whole hell of a lot of the posters here.
I get that you want to think that these blogs are awful and completely unhinged while OUR pointless bitchery is refined and erudite, but sorry, that's not how it works.
I like how you're trying so hard to sound condescending while arguing obvious nonsense, r68.
I'll type slowly and use big letters for you:
There is a difference between ONE PERSON launching a website to attack ONE PERSON and COUNTLESS PEOPLE participating on a thread on a website devoted to COUNTLESS TOPICS.
I get that you want very badly to come off as the smart, reasonable one here, but sorry, that's not how it works when your argument is so plainly stupid.
R67 lmao. He seems like the "perfect" husband.
is mommy blogging still a thing?
Does she EVER stop smiling? The constant fake smiliness is creepy.
She looks like the type of frau who was a bully in school